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2013-01-06 03:50:26 PM  
5 votes:
I wish everything was in glass anyway, so meh. Water tastes better in glass, you don't get nasty chemicals, stuff stays cold longer, and you can break it and stab people... Fark plastic bottles.
2013-01-06 04:09:01 PM  
4 votes:
"It's not cigarettes. It's not something harmful," she said.

People like this do not deserve the freedom to have a plastic water bottle.
2013-01-06 04:29:17 PM  
3 votes:
It's MY RIGHT to pollute someone else's environment with my unnecessary disposable plastic bottles. MY RIGHT!

If companies were responsible for closing the loop and properly disposing of the products they shiat out to the world, the cost of such disposal would be built into the store price, and maybe we'd start seeing more environmentally-friendly product options.

The way things are now, we toss them into a cylindrical container and pretend they never end up in a landfill or in the middle of a lake somewhere, and someone in the future is left on the hook for cleanup.
2013-01-06 04:02:20 PM  
3 votes:

Cup_O_Jo: Ok this old person is batshiat crazy. There are no islands of floating plastic washed out to sea from storm drains. .....


Do a quick Google search for "Great North Pacific Garbage Patch" sometime.
2013-01-06 03:54:25 PM  
3 votes:
It looks like they are targeting water specifically. I saw no mention of Coke\Pepsi and other carbonated soft drinks being banned. If you're going to ban a plastic bottle for being a plastic bottle, the previous contents should be irrelevant and all the bottles should be banned. On the other hand, the whole thing is stupid. Recycle and it will be fine.
2013-01-06 05:15:01 PM  
2 votes:
Conservatives love shiatting up the environment. Who cares if their children are born with asthma, allergies, and subpar intelligence? They're stickin' it to the libs when they pollute! Remind me what's so conservative about conservatives again?
2013-01-06 04:32:02 PM  
2 votes:

machodonkeywrestler: For the people ridiculing Cop_O_Jo:

Please reread his original statement. You will discover that he is not wrong, and you are an asshole.


Yes he is asshole.

Size and visibility

Although many media and advocacy reports have suggested that the patch extends over an area larger than the continental U.S., recent research sponsored by the National Science Foundation suggests the affected area may be twice the size of Hawaii,[24][25] while a recent study concluded that the patch might be smaller.[26] This can be attributed to the fact that there is no specific standard for determining the boundary between the "normal" and "elevated" levels of pollutants and what constitutes being part of the patch. The size is determined by a higher-than-normal degree of concentration of pelagic debris in the water. Recent data collected from Pacific albatross populations suggest there may be two distinct zones of concentrated debris in the Pacific.[27]

The patch is not easily visible because it consists of very small pieces, almost invisible to the naked eye,[28] most of its contents are suspended beneath the surface of the ocean,[29] and the relatively low density of the plastic debris at, in one scientific study, 5.1 kilograms of plastic per square kilometer of ocean area.[23]
2013-01-06 04:03:26 PM  
2 votes:
This kind of crap pisses me off.

Hill said disposable water bottles flushed down storm drains are creating massive "floating islands of plastic" in the oceans, while their production and distribution consumes millions of gallons of fuel.

Look you old cow, just because some morons improperly dispose of their bottles doesnt mean the bottle is the problem. How in the hell are they getting into the storm drains? I would much rather see a $10k fine on the idiots that litter than a ban that affects everyone, even those responsible enough to put their bottle in the trash.

Their production and distribution may consume gallons of fuel but what production doesnt? Getting water into your tap consumes millions of gallons of fuel as well. Not to mention, what business is that of yours? If someone wants to buy the product anyway, that is between them and the seller.

"These people are very concerned about their rights but they have no sense of their obligations as citizens," she said.

I understand my obligations and I follow the damn law by not throwing my bottles in the gutter. If some other dolts dont, that is not my fault, or the fault of the damn bottles.
2013-01-06 03:58:49 PM  
2 votes:

Cup_O_Jo: Ok this old person is batshiat crazy. There are no islands of floating plastic washed out to sea from storm drains. .....


Perhaps not from storm drains, but...
www.localphilosophy.com
2013-01-06 03:49:39 PM  
2 votes:
Rich people's problems. Concord isn't like Boston so unless Boston Mayor Mumbles decides to ban plastic bottles, who cares about Concord? I assumed they sold all their soft drinks in crystal decanters anyways.
2013-01-06 03:49:21 PM  
2 votes:
Ok this old person is batshiat crazy. There are no islands of floating plastic washed out to sea from storm drains. .....
2013-01-06 06:26:11 PM  
1 vote:
"People should have the freedom to buy a legal product in the town they live in," contends Robin Garrison, ... "It should not be outlawed."

www.thefourpawsresort.com

Whatever your opinion is on this issue, that statement is just plain stupid.
2013-01-06 05:14:54 PM  
1 vote:

Ima4nic8or: dericwater: Ima4nic8or: The most maddening thing about this ban is that it will have absolutely no effect on the problem (the floating garbage patches) because it is targeting the wrong population. Go and google "philippine slums" or "indian slums" then click on "images." The cause of those volumes of plastic in the ocean is not rich, white folk in Massachusetts. Yet oddly, those are the folks, through some bizarre misplaced sense of guilt, blame themselves.

A ban on plastic, of all sorts, in third world slums would be far more effective in getting at the root of the problem (no, I am not proposing that as it would be unenforcable and equally ill-conceived). A more rationale solution of course would be to get those folks in the slums some damn garbage service and fine the shiat out of anyone that doesnt use it.

What happens is that the bottling industry, in order to deal with such a law and having to cater to these people, will eventually produce a more environmentally friendly bottle. Maybe out of decomposable material like corn husks or something. It will then become cheaper to produce and use, and then it will then be spread out to other states and countries.

Someone had to take the first stance and I'm glad Jean Hill made the effort. She's the Rosa Parks of plastic bottles.

The way to do that though is through the free market. If folks in Mass. dont want plastic bottles and want cornhusk bottles then they wont buy the plastic ones and the bottle companies would be forced to act. Individuals can make that decision. Having government ban plastic bottles for a bunch of folks who are not the source of the problem and would prefer the plastic bottle is a screwy solution. Folks like miss Hill should be asking the U.N. to get laws in place banning plastic bottles in slums, or better yet, laws mandating garbage service. Lets face it, the bottle isnt the problem. The problem is the way it is being disposed of in some places.


I don't recall Rosa Parks got blacks to be able to sit anywhere else besides the back of the bus through free market. Sometimes, it takes a direct shot action. Not everything is free-market changeable. Do you think the results and benefits of the Civil Rights Act could have been produced through free market action?
2013-01-06 05:06:52 PM  
1 vote:

Ima4nic8or: The most maddening thing about this ban is that it will have absolutely no effect on the problem (the floating garbage patches) because it is targeting the wrong population. Go and google "philippine slums" or "indian slums" then click on "images." The cause of those volumes of plastic in the ocean is not rich, white folk in Massachusetts. Yet oddly, those are the folks, through some bizarre misplaced sense of guilt, blame themselves.

A ban on plastic, of all sorts, in third world slums would be far more effective in getting at the root of the problem (no, I am not proposing that as it would be unenforcable and equally ill-conceived). A more rationale solution of course would be to get those folks in the slums some damn garbage service and fine the shiat out of anyone that doesnt use it.


Damn. You are right. This ban isn't going to do much about this problem. It makes the liberal do-gooders feel like they are doing something though.
static.guim.co.uk
2013-01-06 04:55:43 PM  
1 vote:

Ima4nic8or: The most maddening thing about this ban is that it will have absolutely no effect on the problem (the floating garbage patches) because it is targeting the wrong population. Go and google "philippine slums" or "indian slums" then click on "images." The cause of those volumes of plastic in the ocean is not rich, white folk in Massachusetts. Yet oddly, those are the folks, through some bizarre misplaced sense of guilt, blame themselves.

A ban on plastic, of all sorts, in third world slums would be far more effective in getting at the root of the problem (no, I am not proposing that as it would be unenforcable and equally ill-conceived). A more rationale solution of course would be to get those folks in the slums some damn garbage service and fine the shiat out of anyone that doesnt use it.


What happens is that the bottling industry, in order to deal with such a law and having to cater to these people, will eventually produce a more environmentally friendly bottle. Maybe out of decomposable material like corn husks or something. It will then become cheaper to produce and use, and then it will then be spread out to other states and countries.

Someone had to take the first stance and I'm glad Jean Hill made the effort. She's the Rosa Parks of plastic bottles.
2013-01-06 04:30:34 PM  
1 vote:
The most maddening thing about this ban is that it will have absolutely no effect on the problem (the floating garbage patches) because it is targeting the wrong population. Go and google "philippine slums" or "indian slums" then click on "images." The cause of those volumes of plastic in the ocean is not rich, white folk in Massachusetts. Yet oddly, those are the folks, through some bizarre misplaced sense of guilt, blame themselves.

A ban on plastic, of all sorts, in third world slums would be far more effective in getting at the root of the problem (no, I am not proposing that as it would be unenforcable and equally ill-conceived). A more rationale solution of course would be to get those folks in the slums some damn garbage service and fine the shiat out of anyone that doesnt use it.
2013-01-06 04:04:54 PM  
1 vote:

Cup_O_Jo: Ok this old person is batshiat crazy. There are no islands of floating plastic washed out to sea from storm drains. .....


You keep telling yourself that.
2013-01-06 04:02:55 PM  
1 vote:

Cup_O_Jo: Ok this old person is batshiat crazy. There are no islands of floating plastic washed out to sea from storm drains. .....


Well, there is this shining example....

Link

... and on a more serious note to go with Saturn5's picture above...

http://geography.about.com/od/globalproblemsandissues/a/trashislands. h tm
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2013-01-06 03:52:25 PM  
1 vote:
"I'm 85, but I'm mean."
 
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