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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-06 11:40:52 AM  

This was patronage, the mayor's favorite pastime, not racial discrimination:

In the meantime Tom's position as a laborer has been filled by Jose Santiago, a former state representative who is currently sitting in jail after he was arrested early Saturday for violating a restraining order.
 Lantigua is a funny mix of fixing some problems while being corrupt enough to make a Louisiana politician blush.
 
2013-01-06 12:04:46 PM  
Poor guy.. What a bunch of heartless bastards..
 
2013-01-06 12:11:10 PM  
I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-06 12:17:28 PM  
I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.
 
2013-01-06 12:23:17 PM  

coco ebert: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.


It isn't racial. It's just heartless. I lost my job just before Christmas, the very first day I took off. It was weird, I went to log in to my email, and the account had been suspended. ONE DAY. You can't do that in retail, so FARK YOU, Verizon!

My kidneys once in a while will go into a kind of shock where they stop working and I get urea pruritus, etc. My sister has already had a translplant, so this is not new territory. So my kidneys stop working the day before Christmas Eve. I called in sick, and found out I was fired when my email didn't work. Merry Christmas.
 
2013-01-06 12:25:48 PM  
By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.
 
2013-01-06 12:38:41 PM  

ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.


This is one of the all-time most idiotic phrases. Discrimination is just discrimination.
 
2013-01-06 12:39:54 PM  

ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.


C'mon get with it. EVERYTHING is racially motivated.

/thanks, black people
 
2013-01-06 12:40:33 PM  
With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.


Dude, while I have sympathy for what happened to your wife there's only so much time you can expect to take off work. However, I suspect you might even be more full of crap when I read:
With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.
 
2013-01-06 12:41:54 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.


Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. :( I hope you get well soon and find a good job.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:21 PM  
And, if it were over 6 months, he'll probably lose. It shouldn't be that way but it's a lot better than it used to be.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:23 PM  

abhorrent1: ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.

C'mon get with it. EVERYTHING is racially motivated.

/thanks, black people


My first thought was that this might be the easiest and most likely path to take to win a lawsuit so he can get his job back.

My hope is that this gets enough publicity that they are shamed into rehiring him or someone else offers him a job.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:31 PM  
Nice to see John Romero is back at work after the Diakatana mess.
 
2013-01-06 12:44:11 PM  
"n the meantime Tom's position as a laborer has been filled by Jose Santiago, a former state representative who is currently sitting in jail after he was arrested early Saturday for violating a restraining order.

"They confirmed that the arrest warrant was still active and he was taken into custody. He was brought back here to the station and was charged with violation of a restraining order," said Chief John Romero, Lawrence Police Department.

Adding insult to injury, Sapienza's lawyer feels Santiago's credentials were in question to begin with. He has no laboring experience and his driver's license is currently suspended."


Wtf is this shiat...
 
2013-01-06 12:44:34 PM  
last employer, a Japanese based film company, their personnel guy would find reason to fire anyone who developed an illness that kept them from being a full bore workslave. what a hunchback piece of crap he was. saw a lot of long time loyal employees get screwed when they needed their benefits the most.
 
2013-01-06 12:44:51 PM  
"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.

I wonder if he bothered running any of his unpaid leave past his boss, or if he just expected the boss to retroactively be okay with everything.
 
2013-01-06 12:45:29 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.


Dude, while I have sympathy for what happened to your wife there's only so much time you can expect to take off work. However, I suspect you might even be more full of crap when I read:
With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.


Well, the Hispanic guy they replaced him with has no experience and is sitting in jail.

Why exactly did they think this guy made a good replacement?
 
2013-01-06 12:46:07 PM  
I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.
 
2013-01-06 12:48:00 PM  

laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.


laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.

 
2013-01-06 12:48:06 PM  
Sad situation, but that article was ludicrously bad. It sounded like it came off the personal blog of one of this guy's friends, not a website purporting to belong to an actual news source.
 
2013-01-06 12:48:09 PM  
It is certainly hard being a white male in America.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:17 PM  
fta Sapienza did not qualify for the Family and Medical Leave Act. Because of city imposed layoffs he didn't have the required number of hours even though he didn't want to be paid while he was caring for his dying wife, he just wanted a job to return to.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:31 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: It isn't racial. It's just heartless.


And it's heartless to alledge racism instead of the asshattery that occurred.

They should have put the man on unpaid leave and found a job for him after his wife died. What heartless bastards.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:31 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.


Would consider music therapy? Seniors, disabled. My son's school employees 5 of them and they are loved! (autism) Or Kindermusik -hugely popular in our park district and not cheap.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:40 PM  
So he took too much time off of work so they fired him and replaced him with an apparently unqualified guy that's currently IN JAIL?

Yeah, that's going to make sense to everyone that hears it. Have fun with the lawsuit.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:25 PM  
Absolutely ridiculous. I've dealt with a similar situation - a few years back, I was working a job in sales. My father was in the last days of his life (cancer as well), and I explained to management when was going on, and obviously that I would be missing work time to visit him and attend the funeral. After it was all said and done, I was written up for not meeting monthly quota and terminated.

fark that company. At some point you would think humanity would come over numbers.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:29 PM  
See how bad government is?! This is why we shouldn't fund it and, instead, trust in the continued benevolence of the private sector.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:45 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: "We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.

I wonder if he bothered running any of his unpaid leave past his boss, or if he just expected the boss to retroactively be okay with everything.


He probably didn't, but seriously... his job was maintaining a high school football field. Which wasn't being used (it's basketball season). In winter. In Massachusetts winter, even.

Granted, I'm not a heartless government bureaucrat... but even if I was, I think I could have found a little room in the hectic schedule of tending dormant grass to give him some time off.
 
2013-01-06 12:52:45 PM  

austin_millbarge: ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.

This is one of the all-time most idiotic phrases. Discrimination is just discrimination.


^This!
 
2013-01-06 12:53:33 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.


Retail? What about a contract/franchise store?

/ why yes, I am pretty ignorant how things like that work
 
2013-01-06 12:54:06 PM  

A Shambling Mound: So he took too much time off of work so they fired him and replaced him with an apparently unqualified guy that's currently IN JAIL?

Yeah, that's going to make sense to everyone that hears it. Have fun with the lawsuit.


Apparently paying lawyers and court costs is cheaper than letting your employee go to work.
 
2013-01-06 12:54:21 PM  
Very sad, but he didn't qualify for FMLA.

The fact his replacement was unqualified and of a different race doesn't negate the fact that he was ineligible to return to work under the FMLA.

The only way he'd have a case is if there are other people who were allowed to return to work under similar circumstances (ie, not FMLA eligible) and they were predominantly of one race (ie, Hispanic).
 
2013-01-06 12:54:50 PM  

laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.


If there are less than 50 people employed there, or if he needed more than 12 weeks off, then he isn't covered by that...
 
2013-01-06 12:55:25 PM  
Adding insult to injury, Sapienza's lawyer feels Santiago's credentials were in question to begin with. He has no laboring experience and his driver's license is currently suspended.

so labor experience is not something you learn by using a shovel or picking up a bricks and working until your back hurts?
 
2013-01-06 12:56:19 PM  

Chinchillazilla: It is certainly hard being a white male in America.


And as the demographics change it will only get worse my friend.
Paybacks for all the years of white discrimination will be a biatch.
 
2013-01-06 12:59:04 PM  
"They switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much."
 
2013-01-06 12:59:09 PM  

laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.


The article states he didn't qualify. In order to get leave under FMLA you have to work 1250 hours for that employer in the proceeding 12 months. The article isn't clear but it sounds like due to city imposed layoffs/furloughs from budget cuts, he either had reduced hours and potentially forced time off with furlough over the previous year.
 
2013-01-06 01:02:01 PM  
Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

"Sorry boss, but I won't be in for the next two weeks. No, 8 weeks. Oh, 5 months. No, wait, I will be back next month. or the month after." "Not sure what you are going to do about all the work I normally do, given that you can't hire someone else to do it (union rules) or train someone else to do it (not enough time), or find someone else to do it (remote location), or... And, I may come back to work for a couple weeks, then take another couple weeks off, then come back to work for six months, then do the whole thing over again, and again, and again."

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note "Johnny cannot work for 4 months, due to personal medical conditions requiring treatment", and take the next 4 to 6 months off.
 
2013-01-06 01:02:27 PM  
FTA: "Tom and Heather Sapienza had been married eight years, so a terminal brain cancer diagnosis was more than they could bear."

Maybe it would have been better if they were homo Sapienzas?

/ Don't forget the tip jar on your way out. The waitresses and busboys work hard here.
 
2013-01-06 01:05:30 PM  

cig-mkr: And as the demographics change it will only get worse my friend.
Paybacks for all the years of white discrimination will be a biatch.


And yet, oddly, that's not how progress works. Progress is cleaning up the ah*t, not stuffing the OTHER guys nose in it. The oppressed never really want freedom, just a chance to wear the oppressor's suit. So, would he have gotten fired after caring for his sick wife for all that time if he weren't white? The people who like to rest easy on the "hey, stuff happens, yo" cushion better start checking for thumbtacks, too.
 
2013-01-06 01:05:44 PM  
"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes."

Sic those Motherfarkers, about time this happened.
 
2013-01-06 01:05:46 PM  
If someone doesn't come to work, they should not be expected to keep the job. People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment. It does not work that way. All cancer means is that your time on this earth may be shorter than you like. It does not give you rights and treatment that you would otherwise not get.
 
2013-01-06 01:06:02 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.

The article states he didn't qualify. In order to get leave under FMLA you have to work 1250 hours for that employer in the proceeding 12 months. The article isn't clear but it sounds like due to city imposed layoffs/furloughs from budget cuts, he either had reduced hours and potentially forced time off with furlough over the previous year.


I'm not sure how you could be competent at your job and still spend more than 1250 hrs caring for a 56,000 square foot patch of grass for 8 months out of the year. that's close to 35 hours a week when the grass is actually growing.
 
2013-01-06 01:09:34 PM  
More FTA: "Sapienza did not qualify for the Family and Medical Leave Act. Because of city imposed layoffs he didn't have the required number of hours even though he didn't want to be paid while he was caring for his dying wife, he just wanted a job to return to."

To repeat: "even though he didn't want to be paid while he was caring for his dying wife, he just wanted a job to return to."

The Lawrence DPW should hope every employee's SO gets cancer, they'd save a lot of money. And without all the negative press of layoffs and down-sizing. Just not all at once: maybe they could take a number to see who gets hit first?
 
2013-01-06 01:09:51 PM  

Gifted Many Few: People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment.


-78236458168374759872967923874²/10. Seriously.
 
2013-01-06 01:10:26 PM  

graeylin: Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

"Sorry boss, but I won't be in for the next two weeks. No, 8 weeks. Oh, 5 months. No, wait, I will be back next month. or the month after." "Not sure what you are going to do about all the work I normally do, given that you can't hire someone else to do it (union rules) or train someone else to do it (not enough time), or find someone else to do it (remote location), or... And, I may come back to work for a couple weeks, then take another couple weeks off, then come back to work for six months, then do the whole thing over again, and again, and again."

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note "Johnny cannot work for 4 months, due to personal medical conditions requiring treatment", and take the next 4 to 6 months off.


One job I worked, there was an obviously healthy woman who took her 12 weeks of FMLA every year like clockwork.  Her supervisor just accounted for it every year and prayed that she would fark up somehow so they could tell her not to come back.  Typical civil servant - she did the absolute bare minimum it took to keep her job (actually far less, but would do the minimum when being documented), knew the system backwards and forwards, and was able to navigate it with remarkable skill.  Gaming the system was her career.
 
2013-01-06 01:10:33 PM  

LesserEvil: Well, the Hispanic guy they replaced him with has no experience and is sitting in jail.

Why exactly did they think this guy made a good replacement?


Ya normally I'd call bullshiat on something like this. Just a guy whining because he wanted to take unlimited off time. I mean while death in the family is tragic, you still gotta do your job if you want to stay employed. So I'll defend an employer who says "Sorry man, you've taken too much time off, we have to let you go."

However given that his replacement seems to have no experience in it and is, in fact, in jail and thus not available to work, well it seems like it was cronyism. They are probably just going for the discrimination angle because it is easier to prove/more money. It does seem like they are on to something though. If the guy was fired for lack of availability at work, why then would it be ok for his replacement to be in jail, and thus not available for work? A guy with no credentials, no license, and an outstanding restraining order (which will show up on a standard background check that all government jobs do) is just about the worst candidate you can get.
 
2013-01-06 01:11:10 PM  
But we can't pass any legislation to protect employee rights in these situations, because that would be communism.
 
2013-01-06 01:11:56 PM  
Yep, it's happened to me. (wife with Sjogren's, RA and Lupus)

The mgmt doesn't care about your outside woes.
Only their own needs.

"What have you done for us lately???"

Produce, produce, produce...is it done yet?
Why wasn't it faster?

Oh yeah...it doesn't matter if you're working over 40, on call 24/7 and kicking out things more than others.
Are you here at our convenience?
 
2013-01-06 01:12:59 PM  

graeylin: Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note


This case doesn't seem to be one where the guy was playing the system. His wife will only die once.

Since he was ultimately replaced by a guy who is now in jail, this lawsuit might be legitimate. At a minimum, he should be immediately reinstated since there is an opening.
 
2013-01-06 01:13:05 PM  
Gifted Many Few:

If someone doesn't come to work, they should not be expected to keep the job. People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment. It does not work that way. All cancer means is that your time on this earth may be shorter than you like. It does not give you rights and treatment that you would otherwise not get.

No treatment that you would otherwise not get? They outlawed chemo? Will that cut the demand for medical marijuana or increase it?

"Sorry, cancer isn't special. Go suffer in a dumpster."
 
2013-01-06 01:13:46 PM  
Chinchillazilla: It is certainly hard being a white male in America.

cig-mkr: And as the demographics change it will only get worse my friend. Paybacks for all the years of white discrimination will be a biatch.

The problem with that attitude is the way that, actually, nobody will getting paid back for something they did. They'll be dead by then.
 
2013-01-06 01:14:04 PM  

ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.


FTFY
 
2013-01-06 01:15:58 PM  
well, now that it's made the news the nazi employer will fold and everything will be fine. it's the ghey way this country functions now, screw people over unless the media makes a stink.
 
2013-01-06 01:16:16 PM  
heartless bastards. just give him unpaid leave and seriously what maintenance could a field in Kansas need this time of year?
 
2013-01-06 01:16:18 PM  
i've been fired from SIX different jobs for illness that resulted in my missing work for 3-6 days (three of those absences being hospitalizations). so i can empathize with the heartless bullshiat system. thanks america!
 
2013-01-06 01:16:25 PM  
"My great grandparents got treated like sh*t!"

"Well, so did mine. We're supposed to learn from and improve upon bad behavior and ignorant ways of life and goals."

"But you're WHITE!"

"Dear me, you're new here, aren't you?"
 
2013-01-06 01:16:54 PM  

ZAZ: This was patronage, the mayor's favorite pastime, not racial discrimination....


Ummmm..... traditionally patronage has most often been handed out to people in one's own ethnic group. If the mayor was white and handed out city jobs to only whites, the howls of "racism!" would be heard from there to Alaska. sorry, it has to work both ways. racism? Yes, yes indeed.
 
2013-01-06 01:20:16 PM  
this is an inappropriate use of the 'race card'. they should have used the 'asshole employer' card. proper selection of cards is key to playing Magic the Gheyathering(tm), Modern America Version.
 
2013-01-06 01:20:35 PM  

KrispyKritter: last employer, a Japanese based film company, their personnel guy would find reason to fire anyone who developed an illness that kept them from being a full bore workslave. what a hunchback piece of crap he was. saw a lot of long time loyal employees get screwed when they needed their benefits the most.


Konica? Did a bit of temp work for them once, and their POV was that people should be honored to work for them, at whatever they felt like paying. Yes, they were total assholes.
 
2013-01-06 01:23:25 PM  
Gosh, unions sure do suck don't they?
I'm willing to bet there's more than meets the eye here though to be honest, I've seen this crap myself.


Upton Sinclair weeps quietly in his grave.
 
2013-01-06 01:23:59 PM  

my alt's alt's alt: i've been fired from SIX different jobs for illness that resulted in my missing work for 3-6 days (three of those absences being hospitalizations). so i can empathize with the heartless bullshiat system. thanks america!


I was doing a temp gig installing data and A/V infrastructure in four new school buildings. assigned by a technical recruiter.

At no point were any of my technical skills used as they essentially used most of the people from the tech agency as pack mules and day laborers in order to meet the contract stipulation that the work be done by "qualified technical personnel".

One guy on the crew took four days off to go and test and qualify for his new job and that wasn't a problem.

I cracked a rib while on a ladder doing all the monkey work they handed me and came in anyway. IT started to hurt rather badly and I took half a day off. And got sacked for taking that half day off. Most middle management, IMHO, of any sort, are largely dime store jerkoffs whose only skill is to walk around like a cell block trustee barking at the wage slaves.
 
2013-01-06 01:26:03 PM  
I wonder if this will have an effect moral, productivity, retention and turnover.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-06 01:26:29 PM  
well, now that it's made the news the nazi employer will fold and everything will be fine.

Mayor Lantigua seems to be immune to bad press. He's got recall efforts against him, friends under indictment, a grand jury likely to indict him, state auditors going WTF? over his city's books, and police accusing him of killing people by cutbacks. He was leeching off his girlfriend's public benefits. His friends on the police force get paid leave instead of fired for misconduct. Go to eagletribune.com any day and there's a good chance he's in the news. Cancer widower is just another notch in his belt.
 
2013-01-06 01:26:58 PM  
To be fair, Lowell is a shiathole.
 
2013-01-06 01:26:59 PM  
Stopped reading after "reverse racial discrimination"

/is his lawyer WANTING to keep his client unemployed?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-06 01:27:56 PM  
Skarekrough: To be fair, Lowell is a shiathole.

This is about Lawrence, which makes Lowell look gentrified.
 
2013-01-06 01:27:56 PM  

Skarekrough: To be fair, Lowell is a shiathole.


Might not have happened in Andover.
 
2013-01-06 01:29:33 PM  

letrole: Chinchillazilla: It is certainly hard being a white male in America.

cig-mkr: And as the demographics change it will only get worse my friend. Paybacks for all the years of white discrimination will be a biatch.

The problem with that attitude is the way that, actually, nobody will getting paid back for something they did. They'll be dead by then.


Any one reading this now will be dead within the next seventy five years anyway, so like I say What Me Worry?
Hell, everyone on the earth now will be replaced within the next hundred years
 
2013-01-06 01:30:35 PM  

Marcintosh: Gosh, unions sure do suck don't they?
I'm willing to bet there's more than meets the eye here though to be honest, I've seen this crap myself.


Upton Sinclair weeps quietly in his grave.


.
Did you read the article. This was Mass. and he was a gov't employee. Odds are 99.9999999% that he was union.
 
2013-01-06 01:33:30 PM  
Eliot Loudermilk's leaving early today.
 
2013-01-06 01:35:07 PM  
The reverse discrimination angle my have to with the cities history of hiring Hispanic replacements (in the maintenance areas) when a none Hispanic person leaves. See nail places (korean) and parking garages (Somoli and Ethiopian)
 
2013-01-06 01:35:23 PM  
It's all temp gigs.

There are no benefits. There is no useful medical care. There is no "affordable coverage". There are no pensions within a day after retirement. There are no long range advantages. There is no loyalty and no respect. It's ALL plug and play labor. All of it.

And the thin slimy film that is the buffer between the people making millions and the wage monkeys bringing it in the door are the same toadying sh*tbags who, thousands of years ago, whipped their own tribesmen half to death in exchange for a few pieces of gold and an extra ration of food and a nifty hat that said "I'M IN CHARGE HERE". The story doesn't change. Just the trinkets and bread crusts used to distract us from noticing that it doesn't change.

The only way to kill a leviathan is to starve it. And as long as we're willing to have our time on this earth used as a disposable component in somebody else's quest for their second billion, it ain't gonna change.
 
2013-01-06 01:40:35 PM  

ZAZ: Skarekrough: To be fair, Lowell is a shiathole.

This is about Lawrence, which makes Lowell look gentrified.


Lowell makes Lawrence look like Newton.
 
2013-01-06 01:48:24 PM  

Marcintosh: Gosh, unions sure do suck don't they?
I'm willing to bet there's more than meets the eye here though to be honest, I've seen this crap myself.


Upton Sinclair weeps quietly in his grave.


Holy crap THEY BURIED HIM ALIVE.
 
2013-01-06 01:58:25 PM  
Mitt Romney strikes again.
 
2013-01-06 02:01:29 PM  

rdu_voyager: Very sad, but he didn't qualify for FMLA.

The fact his replacement was unqualified and of a different race doesn't negate the fact that he was ineligible to return to work under the FMLA.

The only way he'd have a case is if there are other people who were allowed to return to work under similar circumstances (ie, not FMLA eligible) and they were predominantly of one race (ie, Hispanic).


I agree, plus just from what little info was in the article I don't think this guy has a case.

I mean he'll probably win the public's hearts on it, cause even though they may have a legit legal reason to fire him, it was heartless and cruel considering the circumstances.
 
2013-01-06 02:01:31 PM  
7 years ago, I knew a guy who's father was on the way out. The guy worked as a car salesman & he was a darned good one (if there is such a thing...). As the guy's father was dying, the car dealership told the salesman to choose: either see his father before he dies or attend his funeral - he couldn't have the time off to do both.

He went to both & found a job elsewhere. With no regrets.

I'll never understand how any company feels it can kick their employees in the stones like this. At the same time, perhaps the mayor from the article should know what it's like to experience a loved one/himself dying/die from cancer. It ain't a day at Disneyland.
 
2013-01-06 02:04:37 PM  

Gifted Many Few: If someone doesn't come to work, they should not be expected to keep the job. People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment. It does not work that way. All cancer means is that your time on this earth may be shorter than you like. It does not give you rights and treatment that you would otherwise not get.


That's not how life really works, no matter how hard you try to rationalize it.
 
2013-01-06 02:05:09 PM  

alessandro: This case doesn't seem to be one where the guy was playing the system. His wife will only die once.


You don't know that.
 
2013-01-06 02:08:21 PM  
How much does mowing the farking lawn pay in Mass.?
 
2013-01-06 02:10:01 PM  
While the dying wife angle works for a story, the real one is given short shrift in that piece:

In the meantime Tom's position as a laborer has been filled by Jose Santiago, a former state representative who is currently sitting in jail after he was arrested early Saturday for violating a restraining order.

WTF?
 
2013-01-06 02:11:41 PM  
Job or no job, he'll never regret his decision.
 
2013-01-06 02:32:31 PM  
I'm not sure I understand the problem. He took:
- All his vacation time
- All his sick time
- All his short term disability time - he was ineligible for FMLA

He was denied an extension, because he's not eligible, and told he had to either return to work or be dismissed. He chose not to return to work, and was therefore dismissed. I went through something similar about five years ago (different reasons, but same progression) and, after being given the same choice once I ran out of vacation, sick, and short term disability time, I also resigned. That's business.

I don't see "heartless" here - that's just business. He would've had more grounds for his lawsuit had they given him more time or special consideration, because employees must be treated equally - that's why there's an employee handbook and fairly rigid policies regarding HR. It sounds like DPW did the best they could given the situation of both his employment and his wife's care, and had to follow through with policy.

The reverse discrimination lawsuit is a bald cash grab, to somehow supplement his income now that he's single and unemployed. He'll have one heck of an uphill battle to somehow prove that he was fired to make room for an Hispanic employee with dubious qualifications.
 
2013-01-06 02:33:47 PM  

swahnhennessy: While the dying wife angle works for a story, the real one is given short shrift in that piece:

In the meantime Tom's position as a laborer has been filled by Jose Santiago, a former state representative who is currently sitting in jail after he was arrested early Saturday for violating a restraining order.

WTF?


If you put any given number of average schmoes into a situation where money and power flow, they will eventually find a way to corrupt the mechanics of that system to their financial advantage. Then it's just a matter of how many accomplices you can shoehorn into the grift before the jig is up. Nowadays, most people who are trying to get their foot in that door don't even pretend that that is not precisely what they came to do.
 
2013-01-06 02:35:17 PM  

alessandro: graeylin: Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note

This case doesn't seem to be one where the guy was playing the system. His wife will only die once.

Since he was ultimately replaced by a guy who is now in jail, this lawsuit might be legitimate. At a minimum, he should be immediately reinstated since there is an opening.


and honestly, in this case, I don't disagree with your viewpoint. If the job is still there, by all means, look into bringing back a good employee. There's more to this case than hit the print here.
 
2013-01-06 02:35:31 PM  

FormlessOne: business.


There's lots of businesses and ways to do business. Structured activity doesn't inherently imply positive activity.
 
2013-01-06 02:37:19 PM  
www.stevescottsite.com

What good men of business might look like.
 
2013-01-06 02:43:39 PM  
I know what it is like to be unemployed, but do you really want to work for a "company" that has so little compassion?
 
2013-01-06 02:47:01 PM  

LisaNeedsBraces: 7 years ago, I knew a guy who's father was on the way out. The guy worked as a car salesman & he was a darned good one (if there is such a thing...). As the guy's father was dying, the car dealership told the salesman to choose: either see his father before he dies or attend his funeral - he couldn't have the time off to do both.

He went to both & found a job elsewhere. With no regrets.

I'll never understand how any company feels it can kick their employees in the stones like this. At the same time, perhaps the mayor from the article should know what it's like to experience a loved one/himself dying/die from cancer. It ain't a day at Disneyland.


That's easy, many companies/government depts. are managed by sociopaths....
 
2013-01-06 02:51:05 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: That's easy, many companies/government depts. are managed by sociopaths....


Ever get into one of those discussion with a meatball middle manager and they crack that wry smile of self satisfaction and say "Yeah, well I don't care about that.", like they've been practicing it in front of a mirror for months. I'll bet they don't do that at the job interview.
 
2013-01-06 02:51:49 PM  
You fail to show up for work for an extended period of time and they fire you.  Imagine that.

Next thing you know bosses are going to expect you to do something all day while you're getting paid.
 
2013-01-06 02:55:09 PM  

ReapTheChaos: You fail to show up for work for an extended period of time and they fire you.  Imagine that.

Next thing you know bosses are going to expect you to do something all day while you're getting paid.


Well, yeah. I mean, unless you're in management.
 
2013-01-06 03:00:32 PM  

ReapTheChaos: You fail to show up for work for an extended period of time and they fire you.  Imagine that.

Next thing you know bosses are going to expect you to do something all day while you're getting paid.


You have a heart of gold. Stay gold.
 
2013-01-06 03:03:57 PM  
Damn Unions!
 
2013-01-06 03:13:09 PM  
"Well, we got all the ducks in a row to make millions. Now we just have to hire people who know how to do this and make sure they do the work."

"I don't wanna f*ck with all that sh*t. Just hire a couple of goons and give them some tassley shoes and make them wear a suit and let them herd the monkeys."

"Don't you want to have your company be a well run and respe..."

"What I want is to knock this motherf*cker together for cheap, take in billions, gut it, foist it off on some broker who'll turn it into derivatives, sell the portfolio before it tanks and buy my mistress a new Lexus. I'll be in the Caymans. Don't call me unless this motherf*cker burns down."

This is the private sector success story of the week.

What the "public service sector" learned long ago is that their money lies in a steady stream of grift, graft, favors granted and an endless parade of disposable workers and bureaucrats. Their feeding tube is best served by their leviathan like girth and almost impossible to dismantle institutionalization.

Predators or leeches.

Either way, they're just gonna use people as spackling compound until cracks get to big to care about and then leave the ruins.

And if you're one of those people filling in the cracks, you are disposable. Because when you keep adding mouths to feed to a planet that is coming up with fewer ways to honestly create or administer wealth or even sustenance, you are a liability to the people whose only motive is to have more than the other guy.

And you know why all this keeps working?

Because for every self important dickwad who will happily step on some guy's face for a few bucks or to feel the tingle of a power boner, there's a thousand people with sore faces who will happily acquiesce to the notion that "that's just the way it is".
 
2013-01-06 03:14:58 PM  

Hale-Bopp: ReapTheChaos: You fail to show up for work for an extended period of time and they fire you.  Imagine that.

Next thing you know bosses are going to expect you to do something all day while you're getting paid.

You have a heart of gold. Stay gold.


I've got all the sympathy in the world for the guy, hell I would have done the same thing.  But I wouldn't expect my job to be waiting for me afterward.  What if she had held on another month or two?  Or three?  How long are they supposed to hold a persons job open?
 
2013-01-06 03:20:23 PM  
My best friend at work was fired for a similar situation. Her mother was in a Kansas City hospital dying, and she was stuck in Wichita because she was only on the job three months when her mom got sick. I said, "spend time with your mom," and basically said this job really is not worth it. She tried to stick it out but was eventually let go. That was a year ago, and while she found another job, she's not doing well financially. I worry.
 
2013-01-06 03:26:25 PM  

bunner: And you know why all this keeps working?

Because for every self important dickwad who will happily step on some guy's face for a few bucks or to feel the tingle of a power boner, there's a thousand people with sore faces who will happily acquiesce to the notion that "that's just the way it is".


Maybe it time for something like this to happen:

ms-brown.wikispaces.com

....but the Left in the USA is too compromised, weak, limp-wristed, and spineless to attempt anything like it today...

/ doesn't help that most people like me can still get 3 squares a day and have a roof over our heads
//....and the fact that I fear imprisonment and death...
 
2013-01-06 03:32:43 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: bunner: And you know why all this keeps working?

Because for every self important dickwad who will happily step on some guy's face for a few bucks or to feel the tingle of a power boner, there's a thousand people with sore faces who will happily acquiesce to the notion that "that's just the way it is".

Maybe it time for something like this to happen:

[ms-brown.wikispaces.com image 475x346]

....but the Left in the USA is too compromised, weak, limp-wristed, and spineless to attempt anything like it today...

/ doesn't help that most people like me can still get 3 squares a day and have a roof over our heads
//....and the fact that I fear imprisonment and death...


History has shown us that advancing inequalities and oppression always leads to the etch a sketch being shaken and I truly hope I wont have to live through that, because it's inevitable. History has also shown that who is holding the etch a sketch is crucially important in regards to the results and aftermath. The thing with capitalism as a religion and all this fake debt and fake money we keep tossing out in front of it's march to the sea, like some magic collection of stones that will allow us to walk on the waterm is that it is literally, physically - like within the realm of physics - unsustainable. And things farting in the face of common sense and math usually take care of themselves. *sigh*
 
2013-01-06 03:34:14 PM  
By the way, there is no left or right. You're holding the chart sideways. There's just on top and underneath. And when the ground starts shaking, duck.
 
2013-01-06 03:46:36 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: coco ebert: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

It isn't racial. It's just heartless. I lost my job just before Christmas, the very first day I took off. It was weird, I went to log in to my email, and the account had been suspended. ONE DAY. You can't do that in retail, so FARK YOU, Verizon!

My kidneys once in a while will go into a kind of shock where they stop working and I get urea pruritus, etc. My sister has already had a translplant, so this is not new territory. So my kidneys stop working the day before Christmas Eve. I called in sick, and found out I was fired when my email didn't work. Merry Christmas.


That's unconscionable. I'm so sorry to hear it. I hope things work out soon for you.
 
2013-01-06 03:49:03 PM  
Yet another victory for the free market. This is why we don't need employment rights, trade unions or healthcare coverage that is universal and unconnected to employment.

/ don't get sick, or care for sick family members, it's just not bootstrappy, and an abrogation of your responsibilities to your job creator, ungrateful peasant
 
2013-01-06 04:08:01 PM  
Using currency to represent an interest in or an opinion on something is a good idea. It's job is to move around and facilitate getting things done that are beneficial to the people who support the currency.

Sucking that currency's dick like it's some deity has gotten us here.

Acting like, if can somehow grab more of it and hoard it or use it as a weapon, you win something is the height of idiocy.

User application error in module "MONEY". Critical stop. Reboot system.
 
2013-01-06 04:11:38 PM  
What's all the hubbub about using the term "reverse discrimination"? It is different than typical racial discrimination, which is the majority discriminating against the minority. It's when the minority is given a preference over the majority based on their race.

I don't think anyone is claiming that reverse discrimination is worse or better than common discrimination, but there is a difference. I could very well be fired as a white man working for an all white company and claim reverse discrimination if the reason I was fired was to make room to hire someone of a different race. It certainly makes understanding the dynamics of the case easier to determine if we say its a case of reverse discrimination.
 
2013-01-06 04:16:20 PM  
i was unceremoniously let go before this Xmas
even after we'd agreed i could stay on until i found another job...

lucky for me i got another job within a week anyway.


still, you hafta be one cold-hearted tard to fark someone over at Xmas.
 
2013-01-06 04:16:51 PM  
The problem is that it portends to differentiate levels, ways, and implementations of racial discrimination as somehow more or less viable or understandable. The fact of the matter is, racial discrimination wither sucks or it doesn't and it doesn't matter who is eating both dinners or who is sitting on the curb, hungry.
 
2013-01-06 04:23:22 PM  
I am a nine-year survivor of breast cancer. When I was going through chemo and lost all of my hair, my sweet husband shaved his head in solidarity.

He was working at a high-end, "silk stocking" law firm at the time. When he walked into the office the first morning after shaving his head, one of the managing partners told him it was not in keeping with the firm's image. Two weeks later they let him go, saying he didn't fit in with the firm's culture. In the meantime, the firm announced a sharp reduction in health benefits for employees and their spouses, so we were left with minimal coverage for my treatments.

On the other hand, they did send a gift basket to me with cheap soap and candles while I was in the hospital having surgery, so I guess we can call it even.

/not
//They were legally within their rights to do all that they did, but seriously?
 
2013-01-06 04:26:50 PM  
cdn2-b.examiner.com
 
2013-01-06 04:36:41 PM  
She died 3 days ago, and 'bills are piling up.' .....?
 
2013-01-06 04:45:08 PM  
Should cut his tits off. That'll learn 'em.
 
2013-01-06 05:13:57 PM  
Nowhere does it say just how long, including the vacation and sick days taken, that he was off the job. If he failed to qualify for the Family and Medical Leave Act, then I can see a month or two, but after that it gets hard for an employer who needs the work done.
 
2013-01-06 05:24:48 PM  
Well, the Hispanic guy they replaced him with has no experience and is sitting in jail.

Why exactly did they think this guy made a good replacement?



The job title is "laborer". I didn't know a person needed experience to do the job. Laborer is generally a job held by convicts, outcasts, people hoping to get their foot in the door. Sounds like the replacement fits the bill. I doubt the guy that lost his job was the head groundskeeper/landscaper or that his only job was maintaining the football field. He was probably part of a landscaping crew that maintained schools in the district. Can't hold a job for an employee forever.
 
2013-01-06 05:27:25 PM  

coco ebert: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.


Lawrence MA is like Little Italy or Brooklyn in the 1920's. Only the Italians ain't running it anymore.
 
2013-01-06 05:33:33 PM  
It's the wording that's the problem. Let's redo the headline. First, use the Hero tag. Second, make the headline "Man quits job to care for dying wife". Cause that's what happened. What happened to him is screwed up, but it's not actionable. Having a sick spouse, or kid, is not a protected class. After not showing up for several days, he constructively ended his employment. As for his replacement, it's irrelevant. He quit his job.

IANAL but I did stay at a Motel6 last night.
 
2013-01-06 06:06:52 PM  

NightOwl2255: Having a sick spouse, or kid, is not a protected class.


Actually it is, but only if you work enough hours. Part-time plebs don't deserve such protections.
 
2013-01-06 06:12:47 PM  
Speaking of shiat, I caught the flu right at the beginning of finals study time last semester. Then I developed pneumonia. I could barely sit up and sip on water, much less read through hundreds of pages of notes and work out engineering problems. When it came finals time (I had already informed my professors) did they go easy on me? No. Did they give a fark? No. The only 'help' I got was one would allow me to fail and retake the course next semester to get a better grade. I got something like 20-30% on my finals, which took my straight A's down to B's and C's. Every test I had taken and every assignment to that point had been pretty far above average. Did they change my grade to reflect? No. Did they grade leniently? No.

Hell, the entire class could hear my labored breathing as I struggled just to farking stay upright and keep the chills away long enough to pen 'answers' and hit calculator buttons. I had to stop and rest for 10-15 minutes a couple of times on the way to/from my car to the classrooms.

That taught me a valuable life lesson right there.

No one else in a position of power gives a fark if it doesn't affect them personally. When my father was dying of Lou Gehrig's, totally 100% paralyzed, it took his doctor several tries to convince insurance that he was actually disabled. They kept denying it. Saying that someone that has trouble moving their eyelids should totally be able to get out there and find a job at 68 years old. During his funeral my brother's workplace wouldn't let him off to attend the funeral because the job would take longer with him gone and they didn't want to pay someone to stay a little longer and maybe get overtime. Even though they were allowed several unplanned absences, they specifically told him he'd be fired if he left for this. A couple of weeks later he called out an hour before he was supposed to start his shift and no one gave a damn.

So you know what? No one gives a damn about you because no one is paying them to do so. No one is handing your supervisor money and telling them that they should let you get away with shiat just because your first born is laying on the kitchen floor bleeding to death because they farked up making their sandwich and you were the only one they had time to call before passing out. No one gives a damn that you had a stroke and missed a day of work, you missed a day of work so you should certainly be fired because you're a piece of shiat that can't make it to work on time.
 
2013-01-06 06:22:53 PM  

bunner: Forbidden Doughnut: bunner: And you know why all this keeps working?

Because for every self important dickwad who will happily step on some guy's face for a few bucks or to feel the tingle of a power boner, there's a thousand people with sore faces who will happily acquiesce to the notion that "that's just the way it is".

Maybe it time for something like this to happen:

[ms-brown.wikispaces.com image 475x346]

....but the Left in the USA is too compromised, weak, limp-wristed, and spineless to attempt anything like it today...

/ doesn't help that most people like me can still get 3 squares a day and have a roof over our heads
//....and the fact that I fear imprisonment and death...

History has shown us that advancing inequalities and oppression always leads to the etch a sketch being shaken and I truly hope I wont have to live through that, because it's inevitable. History has also shown that who is holding the etch a sketch is crucially important in regards to the results and aftermath. The thing with capitalism as a religion and all this fake debt and fake money we keep tossing out in front of it's march to the sea, like some magic collection of stones that will allow us to walk on the waterm is that it is literally, physically - like within the realm of physics - unsustainable. And things farting in the face of common sense and math usually take care of themselves. *sigh*


Taken to extremes, 99.999% of money will end up in the hands of an elite few. That other .001% will end up in the hands of the rest of us. The only thing that will keep it in balance is the fact that if any work is to be done, they'll have to balance out the rapidly starving labor pool with enough wages to keep a couple of workers fed and healthy enough to do their jobs. So bread won't go to $20 a loaf, it'll just be $8.99 a loaf when you're making a penny an hour. That means that the best of the best will be able to afford a loaf of bread each week.
 
2013-01-06 06:38:09 PM  

Gifted Many Few: If someone doesn't come to work, they should not be expected to keep the job. People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment. It does not work that way. All cancer means is that your time on this earth may be shorter than you like. It does not give you rights and treatment that you would otherwise not get.


Whether you are trolling or not, I hope you get cancer sooner than later. And your wife leaves you.
 
2013-01-06 06:43:14 PM  
i lost my career when my psychiatrist made me file for disability
 
2013-01-06 06:46:07 PM  

bunner: History has also shown that who is holding the etch a sketch is crucially important in regards to the results and aftermath


I have to say, America humanity was really really really lucky FDR and Truman were holding the etch a sketch last time that happened.
 
2013-01-06 06:48:29 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: i lost my career when my psychiatrist made me file for disability


It's time to stop posting, but I spent two years with no disability or unemployment while I recovered so that I could keep my career.
 
2013-01-06 07:00:39 PM  

rogue49: Yep, it's happened to me. (wife with Sjogren's, RA and Lupus)

The mgmt doesn't care about your outside woes.
Only their own needs.

"What have you done for us lately???"

Produce, produce, produce...is it done yet?
Why wasn't it faster?

Oh yeah...it doesn't matter if you're working over 40, on call 24/7 and kicking out things more than others.
Are you here at our convenience?


It's capitalism in America. You want socialism, go somewhere else. I don't necessarily agree with it, but this is what America is these days.
 
2013-01-06 07:12:30 PM  

Aces and Eights: I am a nine-year survivor of breast cancer. When I was going through chemo and lost all of my hair, my sweet husband shaved his head in solidarity.

He was working at a high-end, "silk stocking" law firm at the time. When he walked into the office the first morning after shaving his head, one of the managing partners told him it was not in keeping with the firm's image. Two weeks later they let him go, saying he didn't fit in with the firm's culture.



www.patrickalparone.com

"WTF?!?"

/sorry, about the troubles
 
2013-01-06 07:54:52 PM  

Hrist: bunner: Forbidden Doughnut: bunner: And you know why all this keeps working?

Because for every self important dickwad who will happily step on some guy's face for a few bucks or to feel the tingle of a power boner, there's a thousand people with sore faces who will happily acquiesce to the notion that "that's just the way it is".

Maybe it time for something like this to happen:

[ms-brown.wikispaces.com image 475x346]

....but the Left in the USA is too compromised, weak, limp-wristed, and spineless to attempt anything like it today...

/ doesn't help that most people like me can still get 3 squares a day and have a roof over our heads
//....and the fact that I fear imprisonment and death...

History has shown us that advancing inequalities and oppression always leads to the etch a sketch being shaken and I truly hope I wont have to live through that, because it's inevitable. History has also shown that who is holding the etch a sketch is crucially important in regards to the results and aftermath. The thing with capitalism as a religion and all this fake debt and fake money we keep tossing out in front of it's march to the sea, like some magic collection of stones that will allow us to walk on the waterm is that it is literally, physically - like within the realm of physics - unsustainable. And things farting in the face of common sense and math usually take care of themselves. *sigh*

Taken to extremes, 99.999% of money will end up in the hands of an elite few. That other .001% will end up in the hands of the rest of us. The only thing that will keep it in balance is the fact that if any work is to be done, they'll have to balance out the rapidly starving labor pool with enough wages to keep a couple of workers fed and healthy enough to do their jobs. So bread won't go to $20 a loaf, it'll just be $8.99 a loaf when you're making a penny an hour. That means that the best of the best will be able to afford a loaf of bread each week.


Stories like this make me so, so grateful for the job I have.
/new employee to Apple
//amazing company to work for
///the on-site Caffe' is da BOMB!
 
2013-01-06 08:32:08 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Aces and Eights: I am a nine-year survivor of breast cancer. When I was going through chemo and lost all of my hair, my sweet husband shaved his head in solidarity.

He was working at a high-end, "silk stocking" law firm at the time. When he walked into the office the first morning after shaving his head, one of the managing partners told him it was not in keeping with the firm's image. Two weeks later they let him go, saying he didn't fit in with the firm's culture.

"WTF?!?"

/sorry, about the troubles


Thanks. We made it through it all. Hubby was kinda hot bald. So was I, actually.

And we both now work in jobs we love where we're respected. I'm the head of a company, and I do my best to treat everyone who works for me with kindness, respect, and understanding.
Sometimes life hands you things that are tough, but make you a better, stronger person in the long run.
 
2013-01-06 08:52:47 PM  
It's sad, but in the real world most employers aren't ok with reserving your job while you take indefinite leave unrelated to your own personal health.
 
2013-01-06 08:56:00 PM  

Hrist: Taken to extremes, 99.999% of money will end up in the hands of an elite few. That other .001% will end up in the hands of the rest of us. The only thing that will keep it in balance is the fact that if any work is to be done, they'll have to balance out the rapidly starving labor pool with enough wages to keep a couple of workers fed and healthy enough to do their jobs. So bread won't go to $20 a loaf, it'll just be $8.99 a loaf when you're making a penny an hour. That means that the best of the best will be able to afford a loaf of bread each week.


As far as can be gleaned from precedents, once it starts to approach that sort of extreme, a lot of motherf*ckers end up on the ass end of an armed and starving populace, hoist upon their own petard. History ins't an agony aunt with an advice column. History is a coroner. And if you blow him off, you can sell your bad decisions to Jesus, cause history isn't interested.
 
2013-01-06 10:01:06 PM  

coco ebert: ecmoRandomNumbers: coco ebert: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

It isn't racial. It's just heartless. I lost my job just before Christmas, the very first day I took off. It was weird, I went to log in to my email, and the account had been suspended. ONE DAY. You can't do that in retail, so FARK YOU, Verizon!

My kidneys once in a while will go into a kind of shock where they stop working and I get urea pruritus, etc. My sister has already had a translplant, so this is not new territory. So my kidneys stop working the day before Christmas Eve. I called in sick, and found out I was fired when my email didn't work. Merry Christmas.

That's unconscionable. I'm so sorry to hear it. I hope things work out soon for you.


I'm seriously about 10 minutes from just saying, "Fark it." Walk out the door, and drive my ass to San Diego. I think I'd rather take my chances living out of my car in San Diego, than live in the cold wastes of Northern Arizona.
 
2013-01-06 10:01:21 PM  
But those harpies in HR are completely blameless. Don't look their way.
 
2013-01-06 10:21:19 PM  

austin_millbarge: This is one of the all-time most idiotic phrases. Discrimination is just discrimination.


I agree. I am really tired of hearing that phrase.
It's like people are trying to make it like that being discriminated against for being white is a different kind of discrimination, and only discrimination against minorities is 'real' discrimination
 
2013-01-06 11:25:52 PM  
Another one of those "I experienced life so I can't have anything bad happen to me" articles. Reminds me of the chick who didn't want to pay utilities because she had to buy meds for cancer. I still can't believe how many people white knight on this stuff
 
2013-01-06 11:55:23 PM  

bunner: FormlessOne: business.

There's lots of businesses and ways to do business. Structured activity doesn't inherently imply positive activity.


Won't get an argument from me regarding the moral position of the situation - remember, I went through something similar, and it would've been nice if I could've retained my position as well. But, again, there's a legal boundary as well, and oddly enough, terminating his employment probably reduced their legal exposure more than if they had provided a morally acceptable, but legally untenable, option to extend his employment - he would serve as precedent for others, and as it was a state agency, that could've compromised HR guidelines for other state agencies as well.

I'm not saying that they shouldn't have considered it - I'm just playing Devil's Advocate - but I can understand the business justification for the termination. What I can't understand is the claim of reverse discrimination - that's truly a "grasping at straws" justification for suing his former employer, unless there's information that wasn't presented in the article.
 
2013-01-06 11:56:47 PM  

MythDragon: austin_millbarge: This is one of the all-time most idiotic phrases. Discrimination is just discrimination.

I agree. I am really tired of hearing that phrase.
It's like people are trying to make it like that being discriminated against for being white is a different kind of discrimination, and only discrimination against minorities is 'real' discrimination


Agreed. Discrimination is, indeed, discrimination. It'd be nice if we could do away with "reverse discrimination" as a claim, and just call it what it is - discrimination.
 
2013-01-07 07:14:55 AM  

Mock26: I know what it is like to be unemployed, but do you really want to work for a "company" that has so little compassion?


Like 90% of them nowadays.
 
2013-01-07 10:07:30 AM  

Aces and Eights: I am a nine-year survivor of breast cancer. When I was going through chemo and lost all of my hair, my sweet husband shaved his head in solidarity.

He was working at a high-end, "silk stocking" law firm at the time. When he walked into the office the first morning after shaving his head, one of the managing partners told him it was not in keeping with the firm's image. Two weeks later they let him go, saying he didn't fit in with the firm's culture. In the meantime, the firm announced a sharp reduction in health benefits for employees and their spouses, so we were left with minimal coverage for my treatments.

On the other hand, they did send a gift basket to me with cheap soap and candles while I was in the hospital having surgery, so I guess we can call it even.

/not
//They were legally within their rights to do all that they did, but seriously?


Law firm.

/ not surprised
// par for the course...
 
2013-01-07 10:42:09 PM  
"Thirty-five days before (Heather's) death, in the middle of the holidays, you have this heartless comic-book character firing her husband while he's got two indicted police officers sitting at home doing nothing, who are making over $200,000 (combined), plus benefits," Sweeney said, referring to Deputy Police Chief Melix Bonilla and P.J. Lopez, whom Lantigua put on paid leave after they were charged with crimes. "And he's getting rid of an $18-an-hour DPW worker who was unpaid leave so that he could be home with his dying wife."

Lantigua could not be reached yesterday.


Link
 
2013-01-08 04:56:48 AM  

CapeBeachbum: "Thirty-five days before (Heather's) death, in the middle of the holidays, you have this heartless comic-book character firing her husband while he's got two indicted police officers sitting at home doing nothing, who are making over $200,000 (combined), plus benefits,"



The only thing more despicable than slimy cocksuckers wiping their ass with decency is the pom pom waving, gutless eunuchs sitting around and trying to justify them. I suspect it has it's roots in wishing THEY could get to wear the slimy cocksucker hat.
 
2013-01-08 04:59:54 AM  
www.wbur.org

Wipe that smirk off your face, you dime store sonofabit*h
 
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