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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-06 11:40:52 AM

This was patronage, the mayor's favorite pastime, not racial discrimination:

In the meantime Tom's position as a laborer has been filled by Jose Santiago, a former state representative who is currently sitting in jail after he was arrested early Saturday for violating a restraining order.
 Lantigua is a funny mix of fixing some problems while being corrupt enough to make a Louisiana politician blush.
 
2013-01-06 12:04:46 PM
Poor guy.. What a bunch of heartless bastards..
 
2013-01-06 12:11:10 PM
I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-06 12:17:28 PM
I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.
 
2013-01-06 12:23:17 PM

coco ebert: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.


It isn't racial. It's just heartless. I lost my job just before Christmas, the very first day I took off. It was weird, I went to log in to my email, and the account had been suspended. ONE DAY. You can't do that in retail, so FARK YOU, Verizon!

My kidneys once in a while will go into a kind of shock where they stop working and I get urea pruritus, etc. My sister has already had a translplant, so this is not new territory. So my kidneys stop working the day before Christmas Eve. I called in sick, and found out I was fired when my email didn't work. Merry Christmas.
 
2013-01-06 12:25:48 PM
By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.
 
2013-01-06 12:38:41 PM

ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.


This is one of the all-time most idiotic phrases. Discrimination is just discrimination.
 
2013-01-06 12:39:54 PM

ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.


C'mon get with it. EVERYTHING is racially motivated.

/thanks, black people
 
2013-01-06 12:40:33 PM
With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.


Dude, while I have sympathy for what happened to your wife there's only so much time you can expect to take off work. However, I suspect you might even be more full of crap when I read:
With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.
 
2013-01-06 12:41:54 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.


Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. :( I hope you get well soon and find a good job.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:21 PM
And, if it were over 6 months, he'll probably lose. It shouldn't be that way but it's a lot better than it used to be.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:23 PM

abhorrent1: ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.

C'mon get with it. EVERYTHING is racially motivated.

/thanks, black people


My first thought was that this might be the easiest and most likely path to take to win a lawsuit so he can get his job back.

My hope is that this gets enough publicity that they are shamed into rehiring him or someone else offers him a job.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:31 PM
Nice to see John Romero is back at work after the Diakatana mess.
 
2013-01-06 12:44:11 PM
"n the meantime Tom's position as a laborer has been filled by Jose Santiago, a former state representative who is currently sitting in jail after he was arrested early Saturday for violating a restraining order.

"They confirmed that the arrest warrant was still active and he was taken into custody. He was brought back here to the station and was charged with violation of a restraining order," said Chief John Romero, Lawrence Police Department.

Adding insult to injury, Sapienza's lawyer feels Santiago's credentials were in question to begin with. He has no laboring experience and his driver's license is currently suspended."


Wtf is this shiat...
 
2013-01-06 12:44:34 PM
last employer, a Japanese based film company, their personnel guy would find reason to fire anyone who developed an illness that kept them from being a full bore workslave. what a hunchback piece of crap he was. saw a lot of long time loyal employees get screwed when they needed their benefits the most.
 
2013-01-06 12:44:51 PM
"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.

I wonder if he bothered running any of his unpaid leave past his boss, or if he just expected the boss to retroactively be okay with everything.
 
2013-01-06 12:45:29 PM

Satanic_Hamster: With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.


Dude, while I have sympathy for what happened to your wife there's only so much time you can expect to take off work. However, I suspect you might even be more full of crap when I read:
With no wife, no job and bills piling up, his lawyer is now prepared to file a reverse racial discrimination lawsuit with the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination.

"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.


Well, the Hispanic guy they replaced him with has no experience and is sitting in jail.

Why exactly did they think this guy made a good replacement?
 
2013-01-06 12:46:07 PM
I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.
 
2013-01-06 12:48:00 PM

laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.


laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.

 
2013-01-06 12:48:06 PM
Sad situation, but that article was ludicrously bad. It sounded like it came off the personal blog of one of this guy's friends, not a website purporting to belong to an actual news source.
 
2013-01-06 12:48:09 PM
It is certainly hard being a white male in America.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:17 PM
fta Sapienza did not qualify for the Family and Medical Leave Act. Because of city imposed layoffs he didn't have the required number of hours even though he didn't want to be paid while he was caring for his dying wife, he just wanted a job to return to.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:31 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: It isn't racial. It's just heartless.


And it's heartless to alledge racism instead of the asshattery that occurred.

They should have put the man on unpaid leave and found a job for him after his wife died. What heartless bastards.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:31 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.


Would consider music therapy? Seniors, disabled. My son's school employees 5 of them and they are loved! (autism) Or Kindermusik -hugely popular in our park district and not cheap.
 
2013-01-06 12:49:40 PM
So he took too much time off of work so they fired him and replaced him with an apparently unqualified guy that's currently IN JAIL?

Yeah, that's going to make sense to everyone that hears it. Have fun with the lawsuit.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:25 PM
Absolutely ridiculous. I've dealt with a similar situation - a few years back, I was working a job in sales. My father was in the last days of his life (cancer as well), and I explained to management when was going on, and obviously that I would be missing work time to visit him and attend the funeral. After it was all said and done, I was written up for not meeting monthly quota and terminated.

fark that company. At some point you would think humanity would come over numbers.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:29 PM
See how bad government is?! This is why we shouldn't fund it and, instead, trust in the continued benevolence of the private sector.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:45 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: "We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes.

I wonder if he bothered running any of his unpaid leave past his boss, or if he just expected the boss to retroactively be okay with everything.


He probably didn't, but seriously... his job was maintaining a high school football field. Which wasn't being used (it's basketball season). In winter. In Massachusetts winter, even.

Granted, I'm not a heartless government bureaucrat... but even if I was, I think I could have found a little room in the hectic schedule of tending dormant grass to give him some time off.
 
2013-01-06 12:52:45 PM

austin_millbarge: ZAZ: I'm not getting the racial angle in all of this.

The mayor is from the Dominican Republic. The complaint alleges reverse discrimination.

This is one of the all-time most idiotic phrases. Discrimination is just discrimination.


^This!
 
2013-01-06 12:53:33 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: By the way, I'm looking for a job. If you have anything for an ex-music teacher and somebody who knows Verizon's eRoes system backwards and forwards, I'm your guy. Otherwise, I'm pretty useless.


Retail? What about a contract/franchise store?

/ why yes, I am pretty ignorant how things like that work
 
2013-01-06 12:54:06 PM

A Shambling Mound: So he took too much time off of work so they fired him and replaced him with an apparently unqualified guy that's currently IN JAIL?

Yeah, that's going to make sense to everyone that hears it. Have fun with the lawsuit.


Apparently paying lawyers and court costs is cheaper than letting your employee go to work.
 
2013-01-06 12:54:21 PM
Very sad, but he didn't qualify for FMLA.

The fact his replacement was unqualified and of a different race doesn't negate the fact that he was ineligible to return to work under the FMLA.

The only way he'd have a case is if there are other people who were allowed to return to work under similar circumstances (ie, not FMLA eligible) and they were predominantly of one race (ie, Hispanic).
 
2013-01-06 12:54:50 PM

laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.


If there are less than 50 people employed there, or if he needed more than 12 weeks off, then he isn't covered by that...
 
2013-01-06 12:55:25 PM
Adding insult to injury, Sapienza's lawyer feels Santiago's credentials were in question to begin with. He has no laboring experience and his driver's license is currently suspended.

so labor experience is not something you learn by using a shovel or picking up a bricks and working until your back hurts?
 
2013-01-06 12:56:19 PM

Chinchillazilla: It is certainly hard being a white male in America.


And as the demographics change it will only get worse my friend.
Paybacks for all the years of white discrimination will be a biatch.
 
2013-01-06 12:59:04 PM
"They switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much."
 
2013-01-06 12:59:09 PM

laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.


The article states he didn't qualify. In order to get leave under FMLA you have to work 1250 hours for that employer in the proceeding 12 months. The article isn't clear but it sounds like due to city imposed layoffs/furloughs from budget cuts, he either had reduced hours and potentially forced time off with furlough over the previous year.
 
2013-01-06 01:02:01 PM
Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

"Sorry boss, but I won't be in for the next two weeks. No, 8 weeks. Oh, 5 months. No, wait, I will be back next month. or the month after." "Not sure what you are going to do about all the work I normally do, given that you can't hire someone else to do it (union rules) or train someone else to do it (not enough time), or find someone else to do it (remote location), or... And, I may come back to work for a couple weeks, then take another couple weeks off, then come back to work for six months, then do the whole thing over again, and again, and again."

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note "Johnny cannot work for 4 months, due to personal medical conditions requiring treatment", and take the next 4 to 6 months off.
 
2013-01-06 01:02:27 PM
FTA: "Tom and Heather Sapienza had been married eight years, so a terminal brain cancer diagnosis was more than they could bear."

Maybe it would have been better if they were homo Sapienzas?

/ Don't forget the tip jar on your way out. The waitresses and busboys work hard here.
 
2013-01-06 01:05:30 PM

cig-mkr: And as the demographics change it will only get worse my friend.
Paybacks for all the years of white discrimination will be a biatch.


And yet, oddly, that's not how progress works. Progress is cleaning up the ah*t, not stuffing the OTHER guys nose in it. The oppressed never really want freedom, just a chance to wear the oppressor's suit. So, would he have gotten fired after caring for his sick wife for all that time if he weren't white? The people who like to rest easy on the "hey, stuff happens, yo" cushion better start checking for thumbtacks, too.
 
2013-01-06 01:05:44 PM
"We firmly believe that if Tom Sapienza was Hispanic and not white that he will have a job to come back to with the city of Lawrence," said attorney, Ellen Shimer-Brenes."

Sic those Motherfarkers, about time this happened.
 
2013-01-06 01:05:46 PM
If someone doesn't come to work, they should not be expected to keep the job. People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment. It does not work that way. All cancer means is that your time on this earth may be shorter than you like. It does not give you rights and treatment that you would otherwise not get.
 
2013-01-06 01:06:02 PM

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: laars: I call BS on this, The Family Leave Act was passed a couple years ago any HR person would know how to get the guy the time he needed.

The article states he didn't qualify. In order to get leave under FMLA you have to work 1250 hours for that employer in the proceeding 12 months. The article isn't clear but it sounds like due to city imposed layoffs/furloughs from budget cuts, he either had reduced hours and potentially forced time off with furlough over the previous year.


I'm not sure how you could be competent at your job and still spend more than 1250 hrs caring for a 56,000 square foot patch of grass for 8 months out of the year. that's close to 35 hours a week when the grass is actually growing.
 
2013-01-06 01:09:34 PM
More FTA: "Sapienza did not qualify for the Family and Medical Leave Act. Because of city imposed layoffs he didn't have the required number of hours even though he didn't want to be paid while he was caring for his dying wife, he just wanted a job to return to."

To repeat: "even though he didn't want to be paid while he was caring for his dying wife, he just wanted a job to return to."

The Lawrence DPW should hope every employee's SO gets cancer, they'd save a lot of money. And without all the negative press of layoffs and down-sizing. Just not all at once: maybe they could take a number to see who gets hit first?
 
2013-01-06 01:09:51 PM

Gifted Many Few: People like to use cancer as a way to get special treatment.


-78236458168374759872967923874²/10. Seriously.
 
2013-01-06 01:10:26 PM

graeylin: Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

"Sorry boss, but I won't be in for the next two weeks. No, 8 weeks. Oh, 5 months. No, wait, I will be back next month. or the month after." "Not sure what you are going to do about all the work I normally do, given that you can't hire someone else to do it (union rules) or train someone else to do it (not enough time), or find someone else to do it (remote location), or... And, I may come back to work for a couple weeks, then take another couple weeks off, then come back to work for six months, then do the whole thing over again, and again, and again."

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note "Johnny cannot work for 4 months, due to personal medical conditions requiring treatment", and take the next 4 to 6 months off.


One job I worked, there was an obviously healthy woman who took her 12 weeks of FMLA every year like clockwork.  Her supervisor just accounted for it every year and prayed that she would fark up somehow so they could tell her not to come back.  Typical civil servant - she did the absolute bare minimum it took to keep her job (actually far less, but would do the minimum when being documented), knew the system backwards and forwards, and was able to navigate it with remarkable skill.  Gaming the system was her career.
 
2013-01-06 01:10:33 PM

LesserEvil: Well, the Hispanic guy they replaced him with has no experience and is sitting in jail.

Why exactly did they think this guy made a good replacement?


Ya normally I'd call bullshiat on something like this. Just a guy whining because he wanted to take unlimited off time. I mean while death in the family is tragic, you still gotta do your job if you want to stay employed. So I'll defend an employer who says "Sorry man, you've taken too much time off, we have to let you go."

However given that his replacement seems to have no experience in it and is, in fact, in jail and thus not available to work, well it seems like it was cronyism. They are probably just going for the discrimination angle because it is easier to prove/more money. It does seem like they are on to something though. If the guy was fired for lack of availability at work, why then would it be ok for his replacement to be in jail, and thus not available for work? A guy with no credentials, no license, and an outstanding restraining order (which will show up on a standard background check that all government jobs do) is just about the worst candidate you can get.
 
2013-01-06 01:11:10 PM
But we can't pass any legislation to protect employee rights in these situations, because that would be communism.
 
2013-01-06 01:11:56 PM
Yep, it's happened to me. (wife with Sjogren's, RA and Lupus)

The mgmt doesn't care about your outside woes.
Only their own needs.

"What have you done for us lately???"

Produce, produce, produce...is it done yet?
Why wasn't it faster?

Oh yeah...it doesn't matter if you're working over 40, on call 24/7 and kicking out things more than others.
Are you here at our convenience?
 
2013-01-06 01:12:59 PM

graeylin: Being on the other end of this stick sometimes with my company, while I feel for people going through their crisis, it isn't any easier on the company sometimes.

We have people here who make a living at taking time off. It's practically a guarantee that as soon as they have their required hours for a year on their paycheck, they will come in with a doctor's note


This case doesn't seem to be one where the guy was playing the system. His wife will only die once.

Since he was ultimately replaced by a guy who is now in jail, this lawsuit might be legitimate. At a minimum, he should be immediately reinstated since there is an opening.
 
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