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(Daily Mail)   Never mind the "millennials," studies show that "Generation Duckface" is even more shallow, entitled, spoiled and narcissistic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 81
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2013-01-06 11:46:32 AM
18 votes:
So they're... duckadent?
2013-01-06 11:32:30 AM
15 votes:
farm9.staticflickr.com
2013-01-06 01:23:35 PM
14 votes:
Just found a narcissism quiz on some psych website.

When they give you your results, there's a big "share on facebook" button. I suspect that's the real test.
2013-01-06 12:28:27 PM
11 votes:
While students are much more likely to call themselves gifted in writing abilities, objective test scores actually show that their writing abilities are far less than those of their 1960s counterparts.

But their 1960s counterparts were much more likely to call themselves "far out" when they were actually  "groovy" at best.
2013-01-06 01:37:39 PM
8 votes:

Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.


Hey now, that was just plain mean.
2013-01-06 11:18:39 AM
6 votes:
How will America's "Generation Duckface" ever compete with its UK equivalent, "Generation Nightclub Toilet Seat Cocaine Face?"
2013-01-06 01:28:16 PM
5 votes:
For the last time.... Stop callng it Duckface. The correct term is "AnusFace".

the faster you adopt that term, the faster this fad will go away.

"Hey, look, your sister posted her AnusFace on her facebook page."
2013-01-06 01:12:48 PM
5 votes:
This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat
2013-01-06 01:10:01 PM
5 votes:
I'm surprised the OBVIOUS tag isn't on fire and shaking like an epileptic.
2013-01-06 03:46:24 PM
4 votes:

timelady: I must be lucky, or doing something right. I have five kids - 26, 20, 18, 11, 9. Not a single self entitled twat. This is how we have raised them:You want it, you work for it. World owes you nothing. Don't like society? Me neither, that's why I work from within it to improve it. Respect other people of you wish to be respected, but not everyone is worthy of your respect. Be a good person, not a shiate. Luck is random, and life is not fair. Who told you to expect fair? Because I said so is perfectly valid while we pay the bills, but we will debate it reasonably if you don't turn into whiny brat. Do not treat me like an idiot if you don't want to be treated as an idiot. A family is a team of people - we work together, we can fight each other, but these are the people who will always have your back, so do not shiate in your own nest. Also, fun is a damn good thing, but so is the satisfaction of working hard at what you love. It took me thirty years before I had worked hard enough to have the luxury of working at what I love, things often have to be earnt. Then they are valued. What gets given has less value. And always apologize if genuinely in the wrong, and once sorry is said and meant, it is over. No grudges held. And we love you deeply - but there is no rule that says we have to like everything you do. We will always be here to support you, but we will tell you if we think t is wrong. You can then make your own mistakes. Anything between consenting adults, fine. Good manners are the social lubricant, apply freely and frequently and things run more smoothly. Even more important to apply it to your own family.It is pretty simple to be a parent. Raise kids you will like as adults. I lucked out. Damn fine, smart kids. And that damn expression is known fondly here as 'cat bum face'.


Did you teach them to use paragraphs or any kind of formatting? "Don't make the same mistakes I did, kids..."
2013-01-06 01:25:06 PM
4 votes:
Or I suppose you could say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and they show disrespect for their elders and love chatting in place of exercise. You might be shocked to know that they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, text instead of entertaining company, gobble up their food, and of course, they tyrannize their teachers.
2013-01-06 03:42:05 PM
3 votes:

joonyer: You, the sock, and a Farah Fawcett poster? Yeah, I had real things to do too.

i.imgur.com
2013-01-06 02:25:19 PM
3 votes:

joonyer: Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.

Hey now, that was just plain mean.


That took me a second. Good job, you are definitely above median.
2013-01-06 01:55:05 PM
3 votes:

TomD9938: technofiend: You forgot cutting in line and expecting everyone to move out of their way to make room for them. I have left more than one millenial or duckface or whatever very disappointed that I would not give up my hard won spot at the front of a general admission concert. Forget giving you personal space, these are people who actually push up against you and expect you to move.

I had that happen a couple of years back in a ski-lift line.

This kid was on a snow-board (of course) and was crowding my daughter and I, getting on top of the back of our skis and basically bieng a shiat.

So I raised my pole over his shiny board like a dagger and gave him a look he surely never had received before.

To his credit, he backed off and scurried to the next lift line in that graceless manner that boarders are known for.


Ah, yes... snowboarders.

Q: How does a snowboarder say good morning?
A: Woops, sorrry dude.
2013-01-06 04:36:35 PM
2 votes:

Felgraf: Moreso than the boomers? I find this difficult to believe.


The flies don't hover far from the feces.
2013-01-06 02:15:29 PM
2 votes:
I saw a young girl walking around making that duck face. I have never actually pointed and laughed at anyone before, and the experience was satisfying.

//My brother had bells palsy, and he made that face. But he had no choice. This chick did.
2013-01-06 02:08:16 PM
2 votes:
Pyschologist Jean Twenge and her colleagues compiled the data and found that over the last four decades there's been a dramatic rise in the number of students who describe themselves as being 'above average' in the areas of academic ability, drive to achieve, mathematical ability, and self-confidence.

Let's call this the Lake Woebegone Generation.
2013-01-06 02:05:21 PM
2 votes:

joonyer: You, the sock, and a Farah Fawcett poster? Yeah, I had real things to do too.


Thhhhhh...thanks for sharing.
2013-01-06 01:55:50 PM
2 votes:
These people aren't "entitled," they're just "voting for their self-interests."
2013-01-06 01:52:28 PM
2 votes:

alwaysjaded: "Calvin, go do something you hate. Being miserable builds character!"


I do this in all seriousness. My 11-year-old loves C&H, and I regularly channel Calvin's Dad when he's acting like a little brat.

/Sadly, being a scientist-geek type I can't explain why old pictures are in black and white properly.
2013-01-06 01:52:11 PM
2 votes:

technofiend: You forgot cutting in line and expecting everyone to move out of their way to make room for them. I have left more than one millenial or duckface or whatever very disappointed that I would not give up my hard won spot at the front of a general admission concert. Forget giving you personal space, these are people who actually push up against you and expect you to move.


I had that happen a couple of years back in a ski-lift line.

This kid was on a snow-board (of course) and was crowding my daughter and I, getting on top of the back of our skis and basically bieng a shiat.

So I raised my pole over his shiny board like a dagger and gave him a look he surely never had received before.

To his credit, he backed off and scurried to the next lift line in that graceless manner that boarders are known for.
2013-01-06 01:51:13 PM
2 votes:
And they can all go directly to the "Occupy" protests, when employers fail to be at the edge of the stage at their graduation ceremonies, with C-level position offers.
2013-01-06 01:43:24 PM
2 votes:

Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.



I was told there would be no math.
2013-01-06 01:31:23 PM
2 votes:

Fark Rye For Many Whores: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

Am I the only one who's going to admit I couldn't stand the kids when I was one of them? Then again I had "real things" to do.


You, the sock, and a Farah Fawcett poster? Yeah, I had real things to do too.
2013-01-06 01:29:29 PM
2 votes:

carnifex2005: Pretty sure this story has been written about every "generation" since the beginning of time.


And we're done here.

3.bp.blogspot.com
2013-01-06 01:28:43 PM
2 votes:

SirMadness: Or I suppose you could say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and they show disrespect for their elders and love chatting in place of exercise. You might be shocked to know that they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, text instead of entertaining company, gobble up their food, and of course, they tyrannize their teachers.


Thanks Aristotle, or possibly Plato.

/plans to take the "Calvin's dad" approach to character building when I have kids
2013-01-06 01:25:17 PM
2 votes:
So wait, expecting to earn $80,000 in my first job out of university was unrealistic? Why then did everyone tell me I was a special snowflake who could accomplish anything I set my mind to?

WHY THEY LIE? WHY?
2013-01-06 01:21:29 PM
2 votes:
Just wait until Generation Duckface gets their dick kicked up to their watch pocket when reality sets in.
Most of these kids are still in daddy's wallet and on mama's teat.
2013-01-06 01:17:07 PM
2 votes:
They are deh-spicable
2013-01-07 09:38:44 AM
1 votes:

omeganuepsilon: olddinosaur: Every generation thinks the young people are a bunch of snits

Just because they think it does not mean that they're not also correct.

In the last hundred years or so, it's a reality. The growing liberal world has preached over and over to it's kids that they're special, that they deserve X, etc. It's the most literal definition of spoiling children, as most children who hear that crap every day will have higher than rational expectations that inevitably get dashed on the rocks.

It breeds complacency, the belief that benefits/rewards need not be earned. It removes reality, it's as much indoctrination as everyone says religion is.

We need to teach children reality, not feed them with the misinformation that they're super-human and can do whatever they want in life and be good at it. A lot of children only have so much potential. You can't be successful in the modern world on a degree in Basket Weaving with a minor in Tie-dye. Kids, in order to grow up healthy and adapt to adult life, need realistic goals.

Being willfully ignorant to the point of delusionally thinking we live in a better world does no one any favors, and really has more of a negative effect on society, such an effect that would make actual anarchist punks jealous.


Those incompetant Libs are all powerful, I tell ya!!!! Libs! LIBS!!!!!
2013-01-07 07:39:17 AM
1 votes:
Hilarious how the comments here fit right in with the study's findings. Another "kids today" headline, and automatically assume it's just old people biatching when in fact it's young people answering questions about themselves, in comparison with their actual abilities.

I'm sure all the dismissers have researched this themselves, are familiar with the work of some of the mentioned scientists, and are not at all so narcissistic and shallow that they believe their HAZMAT shiat doesn't stink.

Fark: Where Science is King...unless it undermines the egocentric denial we need to troll each other.
2013-01-06 09:10:46 PM
1 votes:
www.failking.com
2013-01-06 06:28:32 PM
1 votes:

pissnmoan: "The average IQ is 100. Half the people are even more stupid than that." George Carlin

"Same as it ever was." David Byrne


"Act like a dumbshiat and they'll treat you as an equal." - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs
2013-01-06 05:37:16 PM
1 votes:
And don't get me started on their dogs...

petslady.com
2013-01-06 03:47:59 PM
1 votes:

i upped my meds-up yours: The world treats people with simple views a lot better than it does people who try to understand it.


coachotis.files.wordpress.com
2013-01-06 03:47:45 PM
1 votes:

i upped my meds-up yours: The world treats people with simple views a lot better than it does people who try to understand it.


and dumb people are happier. Since I've given up ever being happy or fulfilled, now I wish I was dumber.

/I don't really, but damn, it would make some things easier.
2013-01-06 03:38:31 PM
1 votes:

red5ish: mrlewish: Tell me folks? Do you say that most really successful people didn't take short cuts or sell themselves hard at first even though they probably weren't qualified at the start? Isn't most of success really "fake it till you make it"?

You're absolutely right. The reason most people succeed can be printed on a bumper sticker or chanted at an AA meeting.


The world treats people with simple views a lot better than it does people who try to understand it.
2013-01-06 03:37:51 PM
1 votes:

Need a Dispenser Here: Smug 2 planker wanker talk...

/does both


Dude,

If I had *two* planks, the wanking would never end. My God, one is enough.

/I too snowboarded some, at least until I swapped to visiting Colorado in the summer and river rafting instead.
//Couldn't pass up the joke, either way.
2013-01-06 03:33:38 PM
1 votes:

mrlewish: Tell me folks? Do you say that most really successful people didn't take short cuts or sell themselves hard at first even though they probably weren't qualified at the start? Isn't most of success really "fake it till you make it"?


You're absolutely right. The reason most people succeed can be printed on a bumper sticker or chanted at an AA meeting.
2013-01-06 03:31:29 PM
1 votes:
I must be lucky, or doing something right. I have five kids - 26, 20, 18, 11, 9. Not a single self entitled twat. This is how we have raised them:You want it, you work for it. World owes you nothing. Don't like society? Me neither, that's why I work from within it to improve it. Respect other people of you wish to be respected, but not everyone is worthy of your respect. Be a good person, not a shiate. Luck is random, and life is not fair. Who told you to expect fair? Because I said so is perfectly valid while we pay the bills, but we will debate it reasonably if you don't turn into whiny brat. Do not treat me like an idiot if you don't want to be treated as an idiot. A family is a team of people - we work together, we can fight each other, but these are the people who will always have your back, so do not shiate in your own nest. Also, fun is a damn good thing, but so is the satisfaction of working hard at what you love. It took me thirty years before I had worked hard enough to have the luxury of working at what I love, things often have to be earnt. Then they are valued. What gets given has less value. And always apologize if genuinely in the wrong, and once sorry is said and meant, it is over. No grudges held. And we love you deeply - but there is no rule that says we have to like everything you do. We will always be here to support you, but we will tell you if we think t is wrong. You can then make your own mistakes. Anything between consenting adults, fine. Good manners are the social lubricant, apply freely and frequently and things run more smoothly. Even more important to apply it to your own family.It is pretty simple to be a parent. Raise kids you will like as adults. I lucked out. Damn fine, smart kids. And that damn expression is known fondly here as 'cat bum face'.
2013-01-06 03:28:03 PM
1 votes:

DarkPascual: how much of the so vilified "EVERYBODY is special" culture is derived of the previous generation lack of sense of worth? Seems to be that today's parents aren't satisfied with their own relationship with THEIR parents, so that projects on their own parenting skills and attitudes.


Um, dude? We don't talk about that. We're not that intelligent, and we're too goddam busy making a living, and moral values and stuff and um, we don't talk about that because we just don't.
2013-01-06 03:25:29 PM
1 votes:

jso2897: "Generation" = granfalloon.


Well, thanks Grandpa. Now the kids have to read another old book.

But I agree. Generations are granfalloons, and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you can stop whinging about those that came before and those that come after yours. And yours. I really, really find my own generation annoying. In fact, I spent most of my life playing with the big kids (Baby Boomers) or with the little kids who grew up after me (the third Generation X, my own generaton being the second Generation X, and the Baby Boomers being the original Generation X in the 1950s).

Not only are generations Granfalloons, they are marketing tools and inventions. Beware the market man! He is trying to sell you. And to sell stuff to you.

That's one thing my generation and the generations before and after me got from MAD magazine and other satirists of the 1940s and 1950s. A healthy skepticism and contempt for attempts to sell us things we don't want and don't need. Not that we don't buy any thing, but we are a hard sell.
2013-01-06 03:21:29 PM
1 votes:
.. according to study from My Dad Fought In The War Institute
2013-01-06 03:19:00 PM
1 votes:
I debated which of my folders was best for the bookmark of his page and decided that my "Apocalypse Cow" folder under Entertainment was propably better than any of my Humanities folders or my Politics folder.

I take the common sense position that each generation is very much like every other generation, except they are a different age and in a different position on the learning curve of life. This explains why every generation has made exactly the same complaints about their youngers and their elders. It is simply not possible for every generation to be worse or better than the last, so a lot of these fears and recriminations have to be, on the whole, wrong.

My parents, who were born in the Great Depressiion and grew up during World War II and its revolutionary aftermath, complain that kids nowadays expect to have everything their parents and grandparents had from the get-go, without paying the dues and doing the time to acquire all the luxuries of comfortable middle and old age. They do, perhaps, but I expect the complaint could easily have been made about any generation since my ancestors carved crude farmland out of the forest primeval. In the 1920s, the bright young things were furnishing utility apartments on the newly invented credit. More frugal and conservative young people were buying everything on the layaway plan, which seems to be as dead as the typewriter and the black Bakelite telephones of the 1940s. Their parents and grandparents (who were much rarer in those days) no doubt felt that the kids were expecting to be handed life on a German Silver(TM) platter, with a cocktail shaker plated with real silver. They were right. My parents are right. Socrates was right. The kids nowadays are not what their parents are or were. They start from a different springboard, perhaps higher, perhaps lower.

I envy the real Baby Boomers the ease with which they walked into jobs and home ownership and many things which became unattainable simply because of demographic and economic trends that were really nobody's fault and everybody's fault. But they did spend mightily to give their own children many new toys that they never had and that their parents have never really understood or wanted. The next generation may have been latch-key kids, but it was for the same reason that many of the Boomers did not have both parents around at any given time--they were out paying for all the stuff bought on credit, including the mortgage and the BMW leases.

In short, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. You take the bad, you take the good, the Facts of Life, the Facts of Life. God that was a dumb show.

I always say that being born in New Brunswick, Canada, I grew up in at least three or four centuries (XVII, XVII, XVIII, and XXth). In some ways the customs and the lifestyles and values and beliefs of my family, friends, close personal enemies, and neighbours partook of different generations and ages all the way from the pioneers to the jetsetters and beyond. Sometimes I saw or even did things that died out elsewhere hundreds of years ago in the UK, the US or even the rest of Canada.

This experience has made me a sort of outsider everywhere and at all times, but also able to understand and empathize with people in wildly different situations from my own. It has made me marginal but also able to laugh at and love people who hate each other deeply, sincerely and sometimes wisely.

Meh. The kids are alright, I suppose.

It is true though that high expectations are dangerous and damaging. My youngest niece attempted suicide recently. I don't know all of what she has been through but she is smart, pretty, well-off and a decent girl with some of the faults of her Mother and Father--perhaps partly inherited as well as learned. I worry about her but can not do much to help as a distant uncle. She is part of this post-Millennnial generation but there were girls like her in the 1950s let alone the 1960s and so forth. God help her, if there is a God. Otherwise we all have to do the best we can to fill the void left by Divine Providence and Nobodaddy in the Sky.

Oddly enough, my nephew, who is the most-farked-up of the lot is the only one who buys me Christmas presents in return for my generous offerings, and he's not half bad at buying something fun and useless, like his uncle.

My oldest niece has a new tattoo on her arm, which comes as a surprise to all of us, since she seems to be the quiet and sensible one who reads a lot of books like her uncle, but meh. It's been so long since tattoos were for rebels and carnies and sailors that my father's navy tattoo is unreckonizable. It's a ship but I had entirely forgotten about the rose and you can't tell what it is from looking at it.

There's a guy who wrote about book about generations who claims that generations arise in a cycle (partly driven by rebellion against the success and failures, values and obsessions of their parents and grandparents). I think I should see if I can look his theory up and see how well he is doing now that we have a couple more generations to work with.

God help us all. Folly is at least as big a part of life as forethought and action.

Such as he roared at dawn's creation, so roars he now.--John Milton
2013-01-06 03:18:31 PM
1 votes:
Are you telling me that teenagers are inconsiderate, selfish and entitled bags of hormones incapable of thinking beyond their immediate needs and impulses?

I am SHOCKED!!! That's NEVER happened before!!!

Seriously, I'm not a fan of teenagers, I didn't like them even when I was one of them, but it comes a time when the previous generations have to look themselves in the mirror and think about their part in the mess.

Kids just don't come up with values, ethics and world views ingrained in their brains from birth and then choose to not follow them just because. Adults are the ones supposed to teach those things and lead by example.

A friend (married and with a kid) of mine told me once that people do one of 2 things when comes to parenting: Either do exactly as their parents did, or completely the opposite... that makes me thing how much of the so vilified "EVERYBODY is special" culture is derived of the previous generation lack of sense of worth? Seems to be that today's parents aren't satisfied with their own relationship with THEIR parents, so that projects on their own parenting skills and attitudes.

I'm not saying that the kids are a-OK... Just wondering how much is our own fault as environment.
2013-01-06 03:17:03 PM
1 votes:

PonceAlyosha: Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

That's the opposite of what I've seen, being a member of that-ish age group. Everyone I know just wants a freaking steady wage, a nice place to sleep, maybe some pot and beer and to not have to waste our time on useless farking shiat like wars.


Do you know what level of privilege is represented by even that seemingly unselfish existence? Even in the history of this country you'd be in the 1% of the 1%. Even without a second pair of levi's or ten bucks in the bank.

You're asking that your life be your own without paying the price to society. And no, you can't work off the debt by volunteering or co-opping or any such hipsterism. You have to earn your lifestyle through the market. Our society is a market society and our morality is a market morality. If it weren't, you couldn't even dream of that unassuming, low-impact lifestyle you want.

Earn it. Generate surplus value so others may profit. Don't presume to change the system until you've become part of it.

/OK, I'm trolling. But I'd like to hear your best argument back.
2013-01-06 02:59:14 PM
1 votes:

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: CodeMonkey4Life: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

You can't be my age because we weren't just selfish, lazy, and annoying, we were also drunken, irresponsible and destructive.
Or maybe that was just me and the people like me I hung out with, YMMV ;)

You must be my generation--we spent most of our free time, doing drugs, looking for drugs and breaking things...


Yes, usually all at the same time!
2013-01-06 02:46:45 PM
1 votes:
"Whut UVVUR! Everybody TOTALLY wants to put it IN meh and I have this wai kewl PHONE!" I wish I could be around to see this pack of sponges sitting in old age home, all trying to talk over each other with their stories of "that time that that one guy totally dissed me!" *snort* News? No. Interesting? Not really. That "Oh, look a car wreck!" vibe? Mos def.
2013-01-06 02:46:27 PM
1 votes:

neongoats: I know a 22 year old who is constantly flying into a depression over the fact that she can't yet afford to buy her dream horse farm in the country.


I know a 26 year old that just bought a condo(she can actually afford it), because her mom told her-"you've graduated college, no more free living", and she has had the audacity to complain that her life has been harder than mine, when her parents payed for her entire college education, while mine kicked me out on the street at age 16(I was dating a member of the same gender-that was apparently horrific enough to render me homeless).

Yes how awful, you had to buy a one-bedroom condo, because you didn't have the downpayment for the two bedroom you wanted, that's so much worse than eating out of dumpsters, and sleeping on people's floors while trying to finish high school.
2013-01-06 02:36:46 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-01-06 02:34:20 PM
1 votes:

McGrits: red5ish: You all get trophies, just for being you.

Your simple statement has finally let me figure out why I hate video game trophies. Back in the day we got trophies for winning and we only had our bragging rights for finishing a video game. There were no trophies for completing level one!

/ I have the crescent hawk LAM miniature from finishing the game
// how is that for a trophy!


I blame Xbox. If someone loves Xbox, I know automatically that they are a horrible person.
2013-01-06 02:31:01 PM
1 votes:

red5ish: You all get trophies, just for being you.


Your simple statement has finally let me figure out why I hate video game trophies. Back in the day we got trophies for winning and we only had our bragging rights for finishing a video game. There were no trophies for completing level one!

/ I have the crescent hawk LAM miniature from finishing the game
// how is that for a trophy!
2013-01-06 02:30:07 PM
1 votes:
So...more people say that they're above average, and in the meanwhile the average is getting lower?

Not finding a contradiction here.

/maybe it's just that more and more people are too dumb to fill out a survey.
2013-01-06 02:26:03 PM
1 votes:
"Generation Duckface"? I-AM-SO-ADOPTING-THAT-PHRASE!!
2013-01-06 02:23:02 PM
1 votes:

jjorsett: Pyschologist Jean Twenge and her colleagues compiled the data and found that over the last four decades there's been a dramatic rise in the number of students who describe themselves as being 'above average' in the areas of academic ability, drive to achieve, mathematical ability, and self-confidence.

Let's call this the Lake Woebegone Generation.


...the women are robust, the men are pink-cheeked, and the children are pink-cheeked and robust...
2013-01-06 02:18:02 PM
1 votes:

CodeMonkey4Life: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

You can't be my age because we weren't just selfish, lazy, and annoying, we were also drunken, irresponsible and destructive.
Or maybe that was just me and the people like me I hung out with, YMMV ;)


You must be my generation--we spent most of our free time, doing drugs, looking for drugs and breaking things.
Kids today think smoking weed is "doing drugs". Hilarious.

Oh, and Iggy Pop.
2013-01-06 02:13:23 PM
1 votes:
I'm at the tail end of generation Y and I hate them most are pretty ignorant even about things they claim to love. They want to make films but refuse to watch anything Black and White. They want to be an artist but refuse to study art history, they write novels but don't read them. And all them get mad for pointing this. Also none of them can spell and they act like the whole world must be in college and it's soooo important.

No it's not plenty of people make good money, have lives, families and are successful and never go to college. Most of my favorite writers never set foot in college (unless it was to give a commencement address).

/Also they think Matt Smith is the third Doctor.
2013-01-06 02:13:00 PM
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Lionel Mandrake: Did you walk 10 miles uphill in the snow there and back?

Did you like it?


Only for sex or to buy drugs. Yes.
2013-01-06 02:08:00 PM
1 votes:
There were 2 major devaluations of the SAT test since the high scoring years in the mid 60s. The first one just made the test easier and was done over years in the late 70s to early 80s because their numbers were so abysmal and then instead of adding a science section as logic would dictate they added w writing section to help the future burger friers liberal arts majors get into college.
2013-01-06 02:04:41 PM
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PsiChick: You want a real poll? Go see what they do at age thirty. That indicates far more than a news article that feels the need to let us know teenagers are shallow and slightly stupid.


Why wouldn't they do fine? Narcissists usually do. But are they doing fine because they worked hard and realized that everything wasn't going to be handed to them, or are they doing fine because they stabbed everyone in the back to get what they want, and because they've learned how to be excellent users and manipulators of everyone and everything?

Self-centered assholes aren't usually bothered by their own behavior. They just make everyone who isn't just like them miserable.
2013-01-06 01:53:00 PM
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I know a 22 year old who is constantly flying into a depression over the fact that she can't yet afford to buy her dream horse farm in the country. I know you shouldn't put it in the crazy, but she is nice and slutty, so at least there's that.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do in this thread, so I'm just going to maintain the mental image of me shiatting on skrillex's chest. I guess it makes me old and lame, but basically everything attached to the current age 20 to 25 year old culture sucks. Your tv sucks, your music sucks, Facebook sucks, duck faces suck, hipsters suck, but not as bad as anti hipsters. Narcissistic, live in a bubble, with little to no human compassion, having turned the concept of friends into a digital score sheet, rather than human interaction and empathy. Bunch of ecstasy sucking, unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce. Oh and fark reddit. They managed to do the one thing that's even worse than the way Fark green lights stories, user up votes. Ugh.
2013-01-06 01:47:38 PM
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Mister Peejay: Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

"Since the 1960s and 1970s, when those expectations started to grow, there's been an increase in anxiety and depression,' Twenge said. 'There's going to be a lot more people who don't reach their goals.' "


[oels.byu.edu image 400x300]

We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact.



Speak for yourself.

/Writing this as I dock my yacht before filming a few scenes before my gig tonight.
2013-01-06 01:47:38 PM
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The ww2 generation, gave rise to the nuclear family, who's children grew up to be
"flower children of the 60's, (baby boomers), who gave rise to the kids of the 70's-80's
who were driven around in car seats, minivans. Those kids became adults and gave
rise to the children of the 90's, who became snowflakes, who can do no wrong, are
given anything they scream their heads off for, and have a entitlement level never
seen before on this planet. They EXPECT to be given anything, think that anything
they do or say is ok. Well, I think they need a slap upside the head, throw them all
in military boot camp and let the sergeant from Full Metal Jacket set them straight.
2013-01-06 01:44:03 PM
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Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

"Since the 1960s and 1970s, when those expectations started to grow, there's been an increase in anxiety and depression,' Twenge said. 'There's going to be a lot more people who don't reach their goals.' "


[oels.byu.edu image 400x300]


We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact.
2013-01-06 01:42:11 PM
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Kids these days.

With their 'rock and roll', like that Eddie Van Heflin.
2013-01-06 01:41:22 PM
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Fark Rye For Many Whores: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

Am I the only one who's going to admit I couldn't stand the kids when I was one of them? Then again I had "real things" to do.


Did you get fragged by your own men in Nam? Sounds like that was a real possibility.
2013-01-06 01:40:58 PM
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miniflea: SirMadness: Or I suppose you could say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and they show disrespect for their elders and love chatting in place of exercise. You might be shocked to know that they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, text instead of entertaining company, gobble up their food, and of course, they tyrannize their teachers.

Thanks Aristotle, or possibly Plato.

/plans to take the "Calvin's dad" approach to character building when I have kids


"Calvin, go do something you hate. Being miserable builds character!"
2013-01-06 01:40:32 PM
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SirMadness: Or I suppose you could say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and they show disrespect for their elders and love chatting in place of exercise. You might be shocked to know that they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, text instead of entertaining company, gobble up their food, and of course, they tyrannize their teachers.


You forgot cutting in line and expecting everyone to move out of their way to make room for them. I have left more than one millenial or duckface or whatever very disappointed that I would not give up my hard won spot at the front of a general admission concert. Forget giving you personal space, these are people who actually push up against you and expect you to move.

/I'll be on my lawn.
2013-01-06 01:38:57 PM
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The most stunning aspect of this new sense of entitlement is the new liberal mantra that hard work is not a factor in success. They keep spreading this self-serving idiocy that successful people are mostly the result of either luck, rich parents, handouts, or dishonesty. Holy sh*t man, these kids are setting themselves up for a lifetime of fail...
2013-01-06 01:38:53 PM
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joonyer: Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.

Hey now, that was just plain mean.


nice
2013-01-06 01:38:18 PM
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FormlessOne: Lionel Mandrake: While students are much more likely to call themselves gifted in writing abilities, objective test scores actually show that their writing abilities are far less than those of their 1960s counterparts.

But their 1960s counterparts were much more likely to call themselves "far out" when they were actually  "groovy" at best.

This is what happens when you give praise where praise isn't deserved, ensure that achievement isn't recognized but participation is, and somehow claim that the ignorance of one is just as good as the knowledge of another. It's what happens when one generation rides on the achievements of the previous, rather than ascending on their own achievements, and we've been doing it now for roughly three generations, thanks to the 1980's and the "greed is good" mantra. Why create when you can exploit? Why work when you can manipulate? As with so many other societies in history, when duty and honor become unfashionable, when labor is considered a sign of inferiority, when the need to inflate the balloon is more important than the need to fill it with substance, collapse is inevitable.

kerryfarkingking: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. - Socrates

/obligatory

And, just as obligatory, a reminder that the civilization of Socrates is just something we read about now, yet another ancient history involving an advanced civilization that slowly degraded through such actions. It's a fun quote, but it's a semaphore for calamity, not a signal of curmudgeonly griping.


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2013-01-06 01:34:29 PM
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upload.wikimedia.org

Yeah, these kids out here, they're a new breed! I ain't never seen anything like this before! This the end of the world now!
2013-01-06 01:31:07 PM
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And we wonder why people of our generation have no compunction about violence towards each other.
2013-01-06 01:23:36 PM
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Fark Rye For Many Whores: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

Am I the only one who's going to admit I couldn't stand the kids when I was one of them? Then again I had "real things" to do.


Define "kids". I hated college students when I was one. None of them knew how to take care of themselves. It was amazing. The dorms regularly had fires because people would microwave metallic objects.
I don't mean like a fork, I mean like stovetop popcorn.
2013-01-06 01:21:53 PM
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Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

"Since the 1960s and 1970s, when those expectations started to grow, there's been an increase in anxiety and depression,' Twenge said. 'There's going to be a lot more people who don't reach their goals.' "


BUT I CAN BE ANYTHING I SET YOUR MIND TO, MY PARENTS TOLD ME SO!
I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
2013-01-06 01:19:06 PM
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AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat


You can't be my age because we weren't just selfish, lazy, and annoying, we were also drunken, irresponsible and destructive.
Or maybe that was just me and the people like me I hung out with, YMMV ;)
2013-01-06 01:14:56 PM
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To everyone who finds people more "entitled" today than previous decades/generations, how do you square the circle of competitive GDP in a climate of record unemployment? Or the increasing polarization of wealth and social inequality since the 70s... Seems to me people are getting by on less than ever...
2013-01-06 01:14:15 PM
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But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....
2013-01-06 01:10:33 PM
1 votes:
Job security for my generation.
2013-01-06 01:09:34 PM
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"Generation" = granfalloon.
2013-01-06 10:26:18 AM
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Whoa. Who would have expected hard-hitting journalism like this from the Daily Fail? Take that, young-uns!
 
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