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(Daily Mail)   Never mind the "millennials," studies show that "Generation Duckface" is even more shallow, entitled, spoiled and narcissistic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 210
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2013-01-06 05:37:16 PM  
And don't get me started on their dogs...

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2013-01-06 06:03:21 PM  

Bobbi Wickham: they act like the whole world must be in college and it's soooo important


Say what you will about kids these days, but this particular complaint is misdirected. Society has been telling these kids that college is the end-all, be-all since they day they were born, and the educational system has provided them with no alternatives.
 
2013-01-06 06:14:53 PM  
"The average IQ is 100. Half the people are even more stupid than that." George Carlin

"Same as it ever was." David Byrne
 
2013-01-06 06:18:06 PM  
I love that the DailyFail articles now seem to attract the right-wing propaganda machine to blame liberals for everything.
 
2013-01-06 06:27:48 PM  

Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.


The grass is always greener on the other side of the median.
 
2013-01-06 06:28:32 PM  

pissnmoan: "The average IQ is 100. Half the people are even more stupid than that." George Carlin

"Same as it ever was." David Byrne


"Act like a dumbshiat and they'll treat you as an equal." - J.R. "Bob" Dobbs
 
2013-01-06 06:28:46 PM  
Hogwash as usual.

Every generation thinks the young people are a bunch of snits, and every new generation thinks those before are a bunch of stupid old farts, and goes out of its way to gross them out.

In a few years they become parents and everything they have rained on the heads of others falls on their own heads in turn.

\\\ \\\ \\\ There is some justice in the world.
 
2013-01-06 06:29:43 PM  
I consider myself part of Generation Meh.

At least, I would if I cared.
 
2013-01-06 06:36:27 PM  
The most stunning aspect of this new sense of entitlement is the new liberal mantra that hard work is not a factor in success. They keep spreading this self-serving idiocy that successful people are mostly the result of either luck, rich parents, handouts, or dishonesty. Holy sh*t man, these kids are setting themselves up for a lifetime of fail...

To some extent hard work is NOT a factor. When pay rates and productivity got decoupled in the 1980s hard work started getting devalued. If you work hard and get a lot done, the least productive person in your unit gets laid off and you get their work. Your boss (or maybe your boss's boss) gets a bonus for reducing payroll, you get nothing. When review time rolls around, you get a bad review because since you are not able to do 2 people's worth of work, you are not "working up to expectations".

Given that hard work has little to no reward, how would you suggest kids these days gain success? They are screwed and some of them know it, so they concentrate on social networks where they can feel important. Perhaps in a generation or two, people will realize the value of labor and actually be willing to pay for it again as they will no longer be getting people to work hard for free. If so, it will be too late for this generation.
 
2013-01-06 06:45:02 PM  
The pinup artist Elvgren was painting the "duckface" some fifty years ago.

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2013-01-06 06:53:20 PM  

lordjupiter: I wonder if the "same old anti-youth crap every generation" people bothered to read the article. Because, you know, making assumptions with no basis in reality is part of the study.


Exactly.

Twenge: "Here are the results of a cross-temporal meta-analysis encompassing four decades of NPI data collection and thousands of participants."

Fark: "Hurrrrr, every old people says that because I can copypaste a quote from soccer-tease."
 
2013-01-06 06:54:09 PM  

olddinosaur: Every generation thinks the young people are a bunch of snits


Just because they think it does not mean that they're not also correct.

In the last hundred years or so, it's a reality. The growing liberal world has preached over and over to it's kids that they're special, that they deserve X, etc. It's the most literal definition of spoiling children, as most children who hear that crap every day will have higher than rational expectations that inevitably get dashed on the rocks.

It breeds complacency, the belief that benefits/rewards need not be earned. It removes reality, it's as much indoctrination as everyone says religion is.

We need to teach children reality, not feed them with the misinformation that they're super-human and can do whatever they want in life and be good at it. A lot of children only have so much potential. You can't be successful in the modern world on a degree in Basket Weaving with a minor in Tie-dye. Kids, in order to grow up healthy and adapt to adult life, need realistic goals.

Being willfully ignorant to the point of delusionally thinking we live in a better world does no one any favors, and really has more of a negative effect on society, such an effect that would make actual anarchist punks jealous.
 
2013-01-06 06:57:16 PM  
The Daily Fail is exaggerating again. 18-22 year olds have always been solipsistic narcissists except back in the day when everything didn't suck.
 
2013-01-06 07:00:31 PM  

20/20: The pinup artist Elvgren was painting the "duckface" some fifty years ago.

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That is not duckface. That's a painting of a pretty lady either whistling or making a face of shock/dismay, and done well enough to not come off as typical duckface(except to those with faulty perception, apparently), IE an uncomprehending alien trying to mimic a useful expression.

Duckface is an attempt at allure and/or toughness gone wrong. The facial equivalent of some retarded 23 year old's crayon "art" that looks like it was drawn by a 4 year old. Or your attempt at being poignant and perceptive.
 
2013-01-06 07:40:18 PM  

Occam's Disposable Razor: timelady: I must be lucky, or doing something right. I have five kids - 26, 20, 18, 11, 9. Not a single self entitled twat. This is how we have raised them:You want it, you work for it. World owes you nothing. Don't like society? Me neither, that's why I work from within it to improve it. Respect other people of you wish to be respected, but not everyone is worthy of your respect. Be a good person, not a shiate. Luck is random, and life is not fair. Who told you to expect fair? Because I said so is perfectly valid while we pay the bills, but we will debate it reasonably if you don't turn into whiny brat. Do not treat me like an idiot if you don't want to be treated as an idiot. A family is a team of people - we work together, we can fight each other, but these are the people who will always have your back, so do not shiate in your own nest. Also, fun is a damn good thing, but so is the satisfaction of working hard at what you love. It took me thirty years before I had worked hard enough to have the luxury of working at what I love, things often have to be earnt. Then they are valued. What gets given has less value. And always apologize if genuinely in the wrong, and once sorry is said and meant, it is over. No grudges held. And we love you deeply - but there is no rule that says we have to like everything you do. We will always be here to support you, but we will tell you if we think t is wrong. You can then make your own mistakes. Anything between consenting adults, fine. Good manners are the social lubricant, apply freely and frequently and things run more smoothly. Even more important to apply it to your own family.It is pretty simple to be a parent. Raise kids you will like as adults. I lucked out. Damn fine, smart kids. And that damn expression is known fondly here as 'cat bum face'.

Did you teach them to use paragraphs or any kind of formatting? "Don't make the same mistakes I did, kids..."


Yeah, I did:) But I also write that at 5am on my iPad. I make no apologies. Life is too short to worry, read it or not if you wish:)
 
2013-01-06 07:47:40 PM  
Duckface? I thought that was "I'm sucking your dick" face.
 
2013-01-06 08:06:07 PM  
Can tell how douchey people are by how they vote. Young people almost all vote liberal now, which reflects their character. Entitled, lazy brats.
 
2013-01-06 09:06:41 PM  

mgshamster: cuzsis: Free Radical: Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

"Since the 1960s and 1970s, when those expectations started to grow, there's been an increase in anxiety and depression,' Twenge said. 'There's going to be a lot more people who don't reach their goals.' "

BUT I CAN BE ANYTHING I SET YOUR MIND TO, MY PARENTS TOLD ME SO!
I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

Of course you can.

But that doesn't necessarily mean you will. Things happen, stuff doesn't always go as planned, but that doesn't mean you never try.

/your parents told you the truth

And yet, they get blamed when they try to reach their goals, instead of just getting a degree or a job that will work well with the current/future market.  I've heard many on fark call them stupid for daring to do something other than what the market desires.


Yep, but that's the way those things have always gone. Following a dream requires a certain amount of risk both financially, time, money and socially. It's up to you to decide if you want to pony up to it or take a safer road. Long as your honest with yourself about it and have back up plans in case of failure there's really nothing wrong with that.

As far as other people's opinions go, don't bother. Somebody somewhere will hate you regardless of what you do. It shouldn't factor into your decision much/at all.
 
2013-01-06 09:08:17 PM  

omeganuepsilon: miss diminutive: So wait, expecting to earn $80,000 in my first job out of university was unrealistic? Why then did everyone tell me I was a special snowflake who could accomplish anything I set my mind to?

WHY THEY LIE? WHY?

This. Gets right down to the cause and effect of it all.


Because higher education is not longer about education, any more than medicine is about medicine. It's about money. And they sell it to whoever keeps the tank in the BMW full. This is the best advice I can give anybody regarding the machinations of the world.

"ONCE SOMETHING BECOMES PRIMARILY ABOUT MONEY, THE THING IT'S PURPORTED TO BE ABOUT IS THE THING IT USED TO BE ABOUT."

We stopped creating actual wealth, here, a while ago. And the people with access to the traditionally free flowing revenue streams are milking every cow they can til its dry.

And no plans have been made to return it into the economy it's being removed from.
 
2013-01-06 09:10:46 PM  
www.failking.com
 
2013-01-06 09:11:50 PM  

i upped my meds-up yours: LegoLewdite: To everyone who finds people more "entitled" today than previous decades/generations, how do you square the circle of competitive GDP in a climate of record unemployment?

Ha. You don't. You don't even think about it in those egghead libby-lib terms. You keep it to the individual and the work ethic you grew up with, and you blame the victim.

Or the increasing polarization of wealth and social inequality since the 70s... Seems to me people are getting by on less than ever...

If you grew up around people who remembered the 1930s, you give less than no farks about the problems of people today. The modern world is paradise, and those who are not measuring up have only themselves to blame.


Really? Because my grandfather is one of them and he is quite sympathetic to folks facing the problems of today.

/hardship can turn you into an empathetic human being or an asshole.
//I don't have time for assholes myself.
 
2013-01-06 09:25:09 PM  
/r/gonewild isn't helping much, either.
 
2013-01-06 10:16:14 PM  

Thunderpipes: Can tell how douchey people are by how they vote. Young people almost all vote liberal now, which reflects their character. Entitled, lazy brats.


Suck a fat one, troll boy. Your character is absolutely lacking. You are weak as a person, as is your sauce.

Why am I paying you to be an entitled idiot?
 
2013-01-06 10:30:51 PM  

McGrits: red5ish: You all get trophies, just for being you.

Your simple statement has finally let me figure out why I hate video game trophies. Back in the day we got trophies for winning and we only had our bragging rights for finishing a video game. There were no trophies for completing level one!

/ I have the crescent hawk LAM miniature from finishing the game
// how is that for a trophy!


www.myrnnyx.com

Phoenix Hawk LAM

I have one, too. Though I painted mine to look like a Skull Squadron Super VF-1S.

brianscache.com
 
2013-01-06 10:41:01 PM  

SDRR: BoothbyTCD: "The next generation is spoiled, and the one after that even more so!" said adults since always.


To be fair, we only have written evidence of this for about 5500 years. Any generation older, we are making conjecture.
 
2013-01-06 10:46:58 PM  
Who left who trillions of dollars in debt whilst refusing to change or lower their own entitlements? Wars fought with contracted armies for false purposes while our educational system flounders and our financial system bursts? That's pretty hard to top.
 
2013-01-06 10:47:09 PM  
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2013-01-06 11:11:16 PM  
I think it comes down to sampling bias. The ones who think they're hot shiat are more likely to crow about it. When I was at UVa in the mid-90s, my suitemates were, on average, the most entitled bunch of farkers I ever met. One of them got a speeding ticket and was SUPER pissed... because his parents would yell at him for it. He wasn't paying for the car, the insurance, the gas or even the ticket, getting yelled at was the worst he had to look forward to. Another got busted for drinking in public while underage -- this worried him a bit because he might not be able to get his medical license later, but no big deal because his dad was a judge and had a high-powered lawyer buddy get the charge dropped. Most of them were getting free rides from their parents and several had nice cars and/or top-of-the-line brand-new PCs bought new for them to start college with. I had to teach some of them how to do laundry -- I don't mean "this is how you set this machine for permanent press", I mean "separate whites and colors, don't pack too much in, and make sure you put the soap in before you start it".

Meanwhile there I was with no car, no parental funding, my two-year-old computer that I saved up half the money for one mowed lawn at a time, and whatever part-time employment I could scrounge. Which was fine, I made my own choices, but it was eye-opening to see just how little idea most of my "peers" had of how life works in the real world. And I in turn made most of the classic mistakes of young people with less financial survival skill than they think, who suddenly need it -- ran up credit cards, bounced checks occasionally, neglected little things like car insurance when I did get a car, etc.

When I look back and really consider the question honestly, the kids that age that I know today come off at least as well as the pack of us did back then.
 
2013-01-06 11:47:13 PM  

cuzsis: i upped my meds-up yours: LegoLewdite: To everyone who finds people more "entitled" today than previous decades/generations, how do you square the circle of competitive GDP in a climate of record unemployment?

Ha. You don't. You don't even think about it in those egghead libby-lib terms. You keep it to the individual and the work ethic you grew up with, and you blame the victim.

Or the increasing polarization of wealth and social inequality since the 70s... Seems to me people are getting by on less than ever...

If you grew up around people who remembered the 1930s, you give less than no farks about the problems of people today. The modern world is paradise, and those who are not measuring up have only themselves to blame.

Really? Because my grandfather is one of them and he is quite sympathetic to folks facing the problems of today.

/hardship can turn you into an empathetic human being or an asshole.
//I don't have time for assholes myself.


Unfortunately, it seems to be their world and we just seem to be living in it.
 
2013-01-07 01:19:39 AM  

WhippingBoy: Does the realization that you're not "special" suddenly hit as a huge, life-changing epiphany? Or is it a slow realization that you gradually come to terms with? Or does it even hit at all?


For me, it was age 28. I realized "Holy Shiat! I'm going to die! If I don't actually accomplish these ideas I have, I'll have done nothing for this world I love"

So now I act meaningfully instead of just "working hard" like a good little serf.
 
2013-01-07 02:03:11 AM  

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how do you even MAKE that farking face?? it's unnatural, is what.
 
2013-01-07 02:22:53 AM  
"The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have
no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all
restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes
for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are
forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behaviour and dress" - Plato
 
2013-01-07 02:30:02 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves. They have
no reverence for parents or old age. They are impatient of all
restraint. They talk as if they alone knew everything and what passes
for wisdom with us is foolishness with them. As for girls, they are
forward, immodest and unwomanly in speech, behaviour and dress" - Plato


Well, yeah, t'was ever thus. But that doesn't mean being a self absorbed piece of ass sandpaper is a great idea. : )
 
2013-01-07 03:05:27 AM  

OscarTamerz: The NEA is doing to America's children what the UAW did to America's automobile manufacturing. Thanks!


Get screwed over by incompetent management?

/complaint of a schoolteacher I know: administration refused to support her when parents complained that their snowflake earned bad grades
 
2013-01-07 03:25:17 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: The most stunning aspect of this new sense of entitlement is the new liberal mantra that hard work is not a factor in success. They keep spreading this self-serving idiocy that successful people are mostly the result of either luck, rich parents, handouts, or dishonesty. Holy sh*t man, these kids are setting themselves up for a lifetime of fail...


Or "The Secret".
 
2013-01-07 03:43:54 AM  

edmo: Six hours of studying? How does anyone get by on that?


Easier classes.
 
2013-01-07 03:47:04 AM  
highest proportion of women ever in college. highest level of narcissism ever in college. hmmmm........ could there be a connection?
 
2013-01-07 03:49:27 AM  

mike_d85: Fark Rye For Many Whores: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

Am I the only one who's going to admit I couldn't stand the kids when I was one of them? Then again I had "real things" to do.

Define "kids". I hated college students when I was one. None of them knew how to take care of themselves. It was amazing. The dorms regularly had fires because people would microwave metallic objects.
I don't mean like a fork, I mean like stovetop popcorn.


Wow, what POS school did you go to?
 
2013-01-07 03:51:17 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

That would make your kid "median"


Median is a type of average.
 
2013-01-07 06:04:34 AM  

Abacus9: Lionel Mandrake: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

That would make your kid "median"

Median is a type of average.


And also intelligence/grades tend to follow a bell curve, so it is reasonable to assume the median and mean will be pretty similar over such a large population.
 
2013-01-07 06:29:04 AM  
Never mind the "millennials," studies show that "Generation Duckface" is even more shallow, entitled, spoiled and narcissistic

Thanks for that helpful advice Subby, I will make sure to "nevermind" those studies, not that I don't make a habit out of ignoring "scientific data" whose source is the Daily Fail on a regular basis already.
 
2013-01-07 06:55:14 AM  
The last time I snapped at a college student that she should "stop farking around" with her phone and pay attention during class or not show up at all, she sent an email to the departmental secretary saying her daddy was a lawyer and she wanted me fired because she now "didn't feel safe in the classroom."

fark 'em, I say.
 
2013-01-07 07:39:17 AM  
Hilarious how the comments here fit right in with the study's findings. Another "kids today" headline, and automatically assume it's just old people biatching when in fact it's young people answering questions about themselves, in comparison with their actual abilities.

I'm sure all the dismissers have researched this themselves, are familiar with the work of some of the mentioned scientists, and are not at all so narcissistic and shallow that they believe their HAZMAT shiat doesn't stink.

Fark: Where Science is King...unless it undermines the egocentric denial we need to troll each other.
 
2013-01-07 09:38:44 AM  

omeganuepsilon: olddinosaur: Every generation thinks the young people are a bunch of snits

Just because they think it does not mean that they're not also correct.

In the last hundred years or so, it's a reality. The growing liberal world has preached over and over to it's kids that they're special, that they deserve X, etc. It's the most literal definition of spoiling children, as most children who hear that crap every day will have higher than rational expectations that inevitably get dashed on the rocks.

It breeds complacency, the belief that benefits/rewards need not be earned. It removes reality, it's as much indoctrination as everyone says religion is.

We need to teach children reality, not feed them with the misinformation that they're super-human and can do whatever they want in life and be good at it. A lot of children only have so much potential. You can't be successful in the modern world on a degree in Basket Weaving with a minor in Tie-dye. Kids, in order to grow up healthy and adapt to adult life, need realistic goals.

Being willfully ignorant to the point of delusionally thinking we live in a better world does no one any favors, and really has more of a negative effect on society, such an effect that would make actual anarchist punks jealous.


Those incompetant Libs are all powerful, I tell ya!!!! Libs! LIBS!!!!!
 
2013-01-07 09:39:32 AM  
The Parental Paradox, likley starting with Depression era folks:

Year 1: "I want life to be better for my kids. I want them to have all the stuff I never had. I never want them to stuggle and suffer like I did."

Year 20: "The youth of today are soft. They do not know how to work for anything and expect stuff to be handed to them. They need to learn to suffer a bit to build a spine."
 
2013-01-07 09:43:43 AM  

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how do you even MAKE that farking face?? it's unnatural, is what.


So you think the facial expresion is the unnatural part? Nothing about the (chemical) skin tone and hair?
 
2013-01-07 09:52:12 AM  

NCg8r: Those incompetant Libs are all powerful, I tell ya!!!! Libs! LIBS!!!!!


I know a lot of people where I work who think they're special- who think "reality doesn't apply to me- because I'm me".

Curiously enough, very few of those people are very liberal-minded, at all.

Hell, what is "being all bootstrappy" about if it isn't the notion that your own personal will to do a thing can overcome all odds against about if it isn't promoting the idea that supreme arrogance is a functional substitute for real professional assets any day of the week?

On a stranger note? Sometimes it does work. Just not all the time.
 
2013-01-07 10:36:53 AM  

SanjiSasuke: I imagine a big part of the drop in scores is the participation rate. Used to be only the "best" would go to colleges, so there were few that were not good enough to be there, and there was little incentive to separate the good from the bad in college. Now that 'less qualified' individuals are going, they drag the scores down.


Oh, that's okay. We'll just inflate the grades!
 
2013-01-07 10:49:48 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: LegoLewdite: To everyone who finds people more "entitled" today than previous decades/generations, how do you square the circle of competitive GDP in a climate of record unemployment?

Ha. You don't. You don't even think about it in those egghead libby-lib terms. You keep it to the individual and the work ethic you grew up with, and you blame the victim.

Or the increasing polarization of wealth and social inequality since the 70s... Seems to me people are getting by on less than ever...

If you grew up around people who remembered the 1930s, you give less than no farks about the problems of people today. The modern world is paradise, and those who are not measuring up have only themselves to blame.


I was blessed to work as a personal assistant for a 95-year-old man in my early twenties. I know the truth about humans, what we've done, what we're capable of. I wish everyone could spend a few weeks with someone who's been to hell and back.
 
2013-01-07 11:09:10 AM  
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You're going to be an ugly lady. You'll probably be fat and work as a cashier and no one is going to want to marry you. You see, parents aren't allowed to tell the truth about certain things. Now don't cry. Don't be upset. I don't want to see you crying. You really want to be famous?
 
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