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(Daily Mail)   Never mind the "millennials," studies show that "Generation Duckface" is even more shallow, entitled, spoiled and narcissistic   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 210
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2013-01-06 01:38:57 PM
The most stunning aspect of this new sense of entitlement is the new liberal mantra that hard work is not a factor in success. They keep spreading this self-serving idiocy that successful people are mostly the result of either luck, rich parents, handouts, or dishonesty. Holy sh*t man, these kids are setting themselves up for a lifetime of fail...
 
2013-01-06 01:40:32 PM

SirMadness: Or I suppose you could say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and they show disrespect for their elders and love chatting in place of exercise. You might be shocked to know that they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, text instead of entertaining company, gobble up their food, and of course, they tyrannize their teachers.


You forgot cutting in line and expecting everyone to move out of their way to make room for them. I have left more than one millenial or duckface or whatever very disappointed that I would not give up my hard won spot at the front of a general admission concert. Forget giving you personal space, these are people who actually push up against you and expect you to move.

/I'll be on my lawn.
 
2013-01-06 01:40:58 PM

miniflea: SirMadness: Or I suppose you could say that our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, and they show disrespect for their elders and love chatting in place of exercise. You might be shocked to know that they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, text instead of entertaining company, gobble up their food, and of course, they tyrannize their teachers.

Thanks Aristotle, or possibly Plato.

/plans to take the "Calvin's dad" approach to character building when I have kids


"Calvin, go do something you hate. Being miserable builds character!"
 
2013-01-06 01:41:22 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

Am I the only one who's going to admit I couldn't stand the kids when I was one of them? Then again I had "real things" to do.


Did you get fragged by your own men in Nam? Sounds like that was a real possibility.
 
2013-01-06 01:41:49 PM

david_gaithersburg: Job security for my generation.


We should also start working on robots to take care of us in our old age, too.
 
2013-01-06 01:42:11 PM
Kids these days.

With their 'rock and roll', like that Eddie Van Heflin.
 
2013-01-06 01:43:24 PM

Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.



I was told there would be no math.
 
2013-01-06 01:44:03 PM

Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

"Since the 1960s and 1970s, when those expectations started to grow, there's been an increase in anxiety and depression,' Twenge said. 'There's going to be a lot more people who don't reach their goals.' "


[oels.byu.edu image 400x300]


We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact.
 
2013-01-06 01:44:48 PM
Where does Gen Y end and Duckface begin?
 
2013-01-06 01:45:19 PM
Scrolling thru TFA, I was overcome with the desire to pimpslap each one of those f*cking duck-lipped spikey-haired kids.
 
2013-01-06 01:45:45 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

Am I the only one who's going to admit I couldn't stand the kids when I was one of them? Then again I had "real things" to do.


Nope. I couldn't stand being around them back then, too.
 
2013-01-06 01:47:05 PM
I really can't handle working with, socializing with, or generally talking to a lot of these kids.

They seem to have no idea that anything past their own nose matters.

/sure my parents said the same about my generation.
 
2013-01-06 01:47:38 PM
The ww2 generation, gave rise to the nuclear family, who's children grew up to be
"flower children of the 60's, (baby boomers), who gave rise to the kids of the 70's-80's
who were driven around in car seats, minivans. Those kids became adults and gave
rise to the children of the 90's, who became snowflakes, who can do no wrong, are
given anything they scream their heads off for, and have a entitlement level never
seen before on this planet. They EXPECT to be given anything, think that anything
they do or say is ok. Well, I think they need a slap upside the head, throw them all
in military boot camp and let the sergeant from Full Metal Jacket set them straight.
 
2013-01-06 01:47:38 PM

Mister Peejay: Luca de Balzac: From TFA: "A 2006 study found that students suffer from 'ambition inflation' as their increased ambitions accompany increasingly unrealistic expectations.

"Since the 1960s and 1970s, when those expectations started to grow, there's been an increase in anxiety and depression,' Twenge said. 'There's going to be a lot more people who don't reach their goals.' "


[oels.byu.edu image 400x300]

We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact.



Speak for yourself.

/Writing this as I dock my yacht before filming a few scenes before my gig tonight.
 
2013-01-06 01:51:13 PM
And they can all go directly to the "Occupy" protests, when employers fail to be at the edge of the stage at their graduation ceremonies, with C-level position offers.
 
2013-01-06 01:52:11 PM

technofiend: You forgot cutting in line and expecting everyone to move out of their way to make room for them. I have left more than one millenial or duckface or whatever very disappointed that I would not give up my hard won spot at the front of a general admission concert. Forget giving you personal space, these are people who actually push up against you and expect you to move.


I had that happen a couple of years back in a ski-lift line.

This kid was on a snow-board (of course) and was crowding my daughter and I, getting on top of the back of our skis and basically bieng a shiat.

So I raised my pole over his shiny board like a dagger and gave him a look he surely never had received before.

To his credit, he backed off and scurried to the next lift line in that graceless manner that boarders are known for.
 
2013-01-06 01:52:23 PM
"The next generation is spoiled, and the one after that even more so!" said adults since always.
 
2013-01-06 01:52:28 PM

alwaysjaded: "Calvin, go do something you hate. Being miserable builds character!"


I do this in all seriousness. My 11-year-old loves C&H, and I regularly channel Calvin's Dad when he's acting like a little brat.

/Sadly, being a scientist-geek type I can't explain why old pictures are in black and white properly.
 
2013-01-06 01:53:00 PM
I know a 22 year old who is constantly flying into a depression over the fact that she can't yet afford to buy her dream horse farm in the country. I know you shouldn't put it in the crazy, but she is nice and slutty, so at least there's that.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do in this thread, so I'm just going to maintain the mental image of me shiatting on skrillex's chest. I guess it makes me old and lame, but basically everything attached to the current age 20 to 25 year old culture sucks. Your tv sucks, your music sucks, Facebook sucks, duck faces suck, hipsters suck, but not as bad as anti hipsters. Narcissistic, live in a bubble, with little to no human compassion, having turned the concept of friends into a digital score sheet, rather than human interaction and empathy. Bunch of ecstasy sucking, unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce unce. Oh and fark reddit. They managed to do the one thing that's even worse than the way Fark green lights stories, user up votes. Ugh.
 
2013-01-06 01:53:46 PM

FormlessOne: Lionel Mandrake: While students are much more likely to call themselves gifted in writing abilities, objective test scores actually show that their writing abilities are far less than those of their 1960s counterparts.

But their 1960s counterparts were much more likely to call themselves "far out" when they were actually  "groovy" at best.

This is what happens when you give praise where praise isn't deserved, ensure that achievement isn't recognized but participation is, and somehow claim that the ignorance of one is just as good as the knowledge of another. It's what happens when one generation rides on the achievements of the previous, rather than ascending on their own achievements, and we've been doing it now for roughly three generations, thanks to the 1980's and the "greed is good" mantra. Why create when you can exploit? Why work when you can manipulate? As with so many other societies in history, when duty and honor become unfashionable, when labor is considered a sign of inferiority, when the need to inflate the balloon is more important than the need to fill it with substance, collapse is inevitable.

kerryfarkingking: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. - Socrates

/obligatory

And, just as obligatory, a reminder that the civilization of Socrates is just something we read about now, yet another ancient history involving an advanced civilization that slowly degraded through such actions. It's a fun quote, but it's a semaphore for calamity, not a signal of curmudgeonly griping.


Or, you know, when you poll a group ranging from seventeen to twenty who were raised with MTV and have no life experience beyond high school, your scores look utterly retarded.

You want a real poll? Go see what they do at age thirty.  That indicates far more than a news article that feels the need to let us know teenagers are shallow and slightly stupid.
 
2013-01-06 01:55:05 PM

TomD9938: technofiend: You forgot cutting in line and expecting everyone to move out of their way to make room for them. I have left more than one millenial or duckface or whatever very disappointed that I would not give up my hard won spot at the front of a general admission concert. Forget giving you personal space, these are people who actually push up against you and expect you to move.

I had that happen a couple of years back in a ski-lift line.

This kid was on a snow-board (of course) and was crowding my daughter and I, getting on top of the back of our skis and basically bieng a shiat.

So I raised my pole over his shiny board like a dagger and gave him a look he surely never had received before.

To his credit, he backed off and scurried to the next lift line in that graceless manner that boarders are known for.


Ah, yes... snowboarders.

Q: How does a snowboarder say good morning?
A: Woops, sorrry dude.
 
2013-01-06 01:55:50 PM
These people aren't "entitled," they're just "voting for their self-interests."
 
2013-01-06 01:57:24 PM
I wonder if the "same old anti-youth crap every generation" people bothered to read the article. Because, you know, making assumptions with no basis in reality is part of the study.
 
2013-01-06 02:00:39 PM
Of course, this would never apply to any of you well grounded and well adjusted young folks on TFD. Never. Particularly after you take your daily anxiety meds.

BTW. I studied 3 to 4 hours daily in college. Took Saturday off and 2 to 3 hours on Sunday. But I was paying my own way in Engineering, with a 4.0, not riding the trust fund in a dual major of Woman's studies and advanced art appreciation.

But I did have the body of a Greek god.
 
2013-01-06 02:04:41 PM

PsiChick: You want a real poll? Go see what they do at age thirty. That indicates far more than a news article that feels the need to let us know teenagers are shallow and slightly stupid.


Why wouldn't they do fine? Narcissists usually do. But are they doing fine because they worked hard and realized that everything wasn't going to be handed to them, or are they doing fine because they stabbed everyone in the back to get what they want, and because they've learned how to be excellent users and manipulators of everyone and everything?

Self-centered assholes aren't usually bothered by their own behavior. They just make everyone who isn't just like them miserable.
 
2013-01-06 02:05:21 PM

joonyer: You, the sock, and a Farah Fawcett poster? Yeah, I had real things to do too.


Thhhhhh...thanks for sharing.
 
2013-01-06 02:08:00 PM
There were 2 major devaluations of the SAT test since the high scoring years in the mid 60s. The first one just made the test easier and was done over years in the late 70s to early 80s because their numbers were so abysmal and then instead of adding a science section as logic would dictate they added w writing section to help the future burger friers liberal arts majors get into college.
 
2013-01-06 02:08:09 PM

smells_like_meat: Of course, this would never apply to any of you well grounded and well adjusted young folks on TFD. Never. Particularly after you take your daily anxiety meds.

BTW. I studied 3 to 4 hours daily in college. Took Saturday off and 2 to 3 hours on Sunday. But I was paying my own way in Engineering, with a 4.0, not riding the trust fund in a dual major of Woman's studies and advanced art appreciation.

But I did have the body of a Greek god.


Did you walk 10 miles uphill in the snow there and back?

Did you like it?
 
2013-01-06 02:08:16 PM
Pyschologist Jean Twenge and her colleagues compiled the data and found that over the last four decades there's been a dramatic rise in the number of students who describe themselves as being 'above average' in the areas of academic ability, drive to achieve, mathematical ability, and self-confidence.

Let's call this the Lake Woebegone Generation.
 
2013-01-06 02:09:47 PM

cryinoutloud: PsiChick: You want a real poll? Go see what they do at age thirty. That indicates far more than a news article that feels the need to let us know teenagers are shallow and slightly stupid.

Why wouldn't they do fine? Narcissists usually do. But are they doing fine because they worked hard and realized that everything wasn't going to be handed to them, or are they doing fine because they stabbed everyone in the back to get what they want, and because they've learned how to be excellent users and manipulators of everyone and everything?

Self-centered assholes aren't usually bothered by their own behavior. They just make everyone who isn't just like them miserable.


...I wasn't talking about them doing fine. I'm talking about how they turn out as people. Honestly, I give no farks whether or not they succeed in life, because that wasn't the point of these surveys, and I'm feeling literal today.
 
2013-01-06 02:11:36 PM
We beat them before, we shall beat them again!
 
2013-01-06 02:13:00 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Did you walk 10 miles uphill in the snow there and back?

Did you like it?


Only for sex or to buy drugs. Yes.
 
2013-01-06 02:13:23 PM
I'm at the tail end of generation Y and I hate them most are pretty ignorant even about things they claim to love. They want to make films but refuse to watch anything Black and White. They want to be an artist but refuse to study art history, they write novels but don't read them. And all them get mad for pointing this. Also none of them can spell and they act like the whole world must be in college and it's soooo important.

No it's not plenty of people make good money, have lives, families and are successful and never go to college. Most of my favorite writers never set foot in college (unless it was to give a commencement address).

/Also they think Matt Smith is the third Doctor.
 
2013-01-06 02:15:29 PM
I saw a young girl walking around making that duck face. I have never actually pointed and laughed at anyone before, and the experience was satisfying.

//My brother had bells palsy, and he made that face. But he had no choice. This chick did.
 
TWX
2013-01-06 02:17:14 PM

WhippingBoy: Does the realization that you're not "special" suddenly hit as a huge, life-changing epiphany? Or is it a slow realization that you gradually come to terms with? Or does it even hit at all?


I don't think that it hits for most people, and living in a continuous state of denial accounts for a lot of "misdirected rage". People are subconciously mad that they're not being treated special because they haven't truly made the realization that they probably aren't, and that if they disappeared, only a few people would really be affected, and even then that would fade with time.
 
2013-01-06 02:18:02 PM

CodeMonkey4Life: AliceBToklasLives: This just in: Young people are selfish, lazy, and annoying.

/except when I was young
//we were all responsible, respectful, and shiat

You can't be my age because we weren't just selfish, lazy, and annoying, we were also drunken, irresponsible and destructive.
Or maybe that was just me and the people like me I hung out with, YMMV ;)


You must be my generation--we spent most of our free time, doing drugs, looking for drugs and breaking things.
Kids today think smoking weed is "doing drugs". Hilarious.

Oh, and Iggy Pop.
 
2013-01-06 02:19:04 PM

joonyer: Kit Fister: And we wonder why people of our generation have no compunction about violence towards each other.

As opposed to any other generation in the history of people. No, your generation is actually quite a bit less violent than the last. In this country, that's been true for every generation since the civil war.


Yep, and also every generation has considered itself to be the bestest and the other ones useless.
 
2013-01-06 02:19:06 PM
You all get trophies, just for being you.
 
2013-01-06 02:23:02 PM

jjorsett: Pyschologist Jean Twenge and her colleagues compiled the data and found that over the last four decades there's been a dramatic rise in the number of students who describe themselves as being 'above average' in the areas of academic ability, drive to achieve, mathematical ability, and self-confidence.

Let's call this the Lake Woebegone Generation.


...the women are robust, the men are pink-cheeked, and the children are pink-cheeked and robust...
 
2013-01-06 02:24:06 PM

PsiChick: FormlessOne: Lionel Mandrake: While students are much more likely to call themselves gifted in writing abilities, objective test scores actually show that their writing abilities are far less than those of their 1960s counterparts.

But their 1960s counterparts were much more likely to call themselves "far out" when they were actually  "groovy" at best.

This is what happens when you give praise where praise isn't deserved, ensure that achievement isn't recognized but participation is, and somehow claim that the ignorance of one is just as good as the knowledge of another. It's what happens when one generation rides on the achievements of the previous, rather than ascending on their own achievements, and we've been doing it now for roughly three generations, thanks to the 1980's and the "greed is good" mantra. Why create when you can exploit? Why work when you can manipulate? As with so many other societies in history, when duty and honor become unfashionable, when labor is considered a sign of inferiority, when the need to inflate the balloon is more important than the need to fill it with substance, collapse is inevitable.

kerryfarkingking: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. - Socrates

/obligatory

And, just as obligatory, a reminder that the civilization of Socrates is just something we read about now, yet another ancient history involving an advanced civilization that slowly degraded through such actions. It's a fun quote, but it's a semaphore for calamity, not a signal of curmudgeonly griping.

Or, you know, when you poll a group ranging from seventeen to twenty who were raised with MTV and have no life e ...


I'm still trying to figure out how "Objective" and "writing ability" go together in a thought.
 
2013-01-06 02:24:56 PM

WhoopAssWayne: The most stunning aspect of this new sense of entitlement is the new liberal mantra that hard work is not a factor in success. They keep spreading this self-serving idiocy that successful people are mostly the result of either luck, rich parents, handouts, or dishonesty. Holy sh*t man, these kids are setting themselves up for a lifetime of fail...


Have a link, or is this just one of many persecution fantasies banging around in your butthurt teabilly mind?
 
2013-01-06 02:25:19 PM

joonyer: Begoggle: ggecko: But, if I tell my kid he is "average", that means he is "better" than 155,000,000 people (and that's just the US).....

1, 7, 8, 9, 10
The average of those 5 numbers is 7.
The person with 7 is better than only 1 other person.

Hey now, that was just plain mean.


That took me a second. Good job, you are definitely above median.
 
2013-01-06 02:26:03 PM
"Generation Duckface"? I-AM-SO-ADOPTING-THAT-PHRASE!!
 
2013-01-06 02:27:23 PM
It's a function of demographics, usually.

Large population groups tend to be more full of themselves since they have the numbers and the social inertia. The Boomers and the Millenials are textbook examples (no one ever said this about the brooding, angst-filled, latchkey Generation X).
 
2013-01-06 02:29:10 PM

AcneVulgaris: WhoopAssWayne: The most stunning aspect of this new sense of entitlement is the new liberal mantra that hard work is not a factor in success. They keep spreading this self-serving idiocy that successful people are mostly the result of either luck, rich parents, handouts, or dishonesty. Holy sh*t man, these kids are setting themselves up for a lifetime of fail...

Have a link, or is this just one of many persecution fantasies banging around in your butthurt teabilly mind?


It's much easier to feel superior to entire groups of people if you make up shiat and apply it to everyone.

Jeez, if even 5% of what wingnuts said about liberals were true, I'd hate me, too.
 
2013-01-06 02:29:51 PM
"Think how dumb the average guy is. Now think that, by definition, half the population is stupider than that."--J.R. "Bob" Dobbs.
/Yes, I know the difference between "average" and mean."
 
2013-01-06 02:30:07 PM
So...more people say that they're above average, and in the meanwhile the average is getting lower?

Not finding a contradiction here.

/maybe it's just that more and more people are too dumb to fill out a survey.
 
2013-01-06 02:31:01 PM

red5ish: You all get trophies, just for being you.


Your simple statement has finally let me figure out why I hate video game trophies. Back in the day we got trophies for winning and we only had our bragging rights for finishing a video game. There were no trophies for completing level one!

/ I have the crescent hawk LAM miniature from finishing the game
// how is that for a trophy!
 
2013-01-06 02:34:20 PM

McGrits: red5ish: You all get trophies, just for being you.

Your simple statement has finally let me figure out why I hate video game trophies. Back in the day we got trophies for winning and we only had our bragging rights for finishing a video game. There were no trophies for completing level one!

/ I have the crescent hawk LAM miniature from finishing the game
// how is that for a trophy!


I blame Xbox. If someone loves Xbox, I know automatically that they are a horrible person.
 
2013-01-06 02:36:46 PM
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