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2013-01-06 11:48:36 AM
QUICK, somebody call Al Gore. He can fix this.
 
2013-01-06 11:54:06 AM
images.sodahead.com

Maybe this time it will stick.
 
2013-01-06 12:00:26 PM
So we already know who the simpleton retard subby is
 
2013-01-06 12:34:16 PM
What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.
 
2013-01-06 12:34:19 PM
*checks*

Yep. Polar ice caps still melting.
 
2013-01-06 12:34:56 PM
That's Dr. Subby, professor of climatology, apparently.
 
2013-01-06 12:36:28 PM

Speaker2Animals: That's Dr. Subby, professor of climatology, apparently.


He can easily get a job at Accuweather.
 
2013-01-06 12:37:12 PM
They can just photoshop the ice away
 
2013-01-06 12:38:41 PM
Sigh.

Maybe it's because I read a lot of, you know, science, and not just half-arsed summations in the press, but I have never assumed that "global warming" meant "no ice anymore". I think it means "more weather extremes", which require more energy in the climate, which means, basically, more heat.

Paradoxical, perhaps, but there it is. The trend for weather to be more extreme and less predictable is pretty much what's been projected. Snow in July is, from a climatic viewpoint, no weirder than shorts weather in January. Tough if you are growing crops, however.
 
2013-01-06 12:38:52 PM

The wonderful travels of a turd: What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.


What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.

Just like belief in God.
 
2013-01-06 12:40:53 PM
It's just to make up for things being a little warm in the US this year.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-06 12:42:04 PM

Valiente: Maybe it's because I read a lot of, you know, science, and not just half-arsed summations in the press, but I have never assumed that "global warming" meant "no ice anymore". I think it means "more weather extremes", which require more energy in the climate, which means, basically, more heat.


Anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows this.

That's why submissions like this are a good way of seeing who is a moron.
 
2013-01-06 12:42:15 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The wonderful travels of a turd: What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.

What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.

Just like belief in God.


And the True Believers are just as rabid that you convert.
Humorous, really.
 
2013-01-06 12:45:07 PM
-15 Celsius, that is about 5 degrees in American, that is pretty damn cold. What I am more curious about when I see these stories out of China though is, how are the humans doing? If the bay froze for the 1st time ever, are the homes built to withstand long cold stretches in relative comfort? Funny how when articles about weather in the US and Europe always mention the effects on people and trade, but the same articles out of China only mention trade.
 
2013-01-06 12:45:38 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The wonderful travels of a turd: What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.

What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.

Just like belief in God.


Or, you know, climate change reflects actual facts, just completely unlike belief in God.
 
2013-01-06 12:46:13 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: *checks*

Yep. Polar ice caps still melting.


Not melting, outsourced to China...
 
2013-01-06 12:47:37 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The wonderful travels of a turd: What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.

What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.

Just like belief in God.


See the issue with global warming is that it is a trend based on an average. Think of it like baseball. If Billy Ball's average has steadily declined for 25 years it probably means he's getting worse at hitting. Can he have a good game? Yeah. Can he have a game worse than average? Yeah. But just like ESPN extrapolates a story from a good game, news agencies do the same with global warming.
So one event or one area doesn't make a difference. Its the global average. Its not area warming.
 
2013-01-06 12:48:31 PM

Speaker2Animals: That's Dr. Subby, professor of climatology, apparently.


My money's on a Masters in Cybersecurity.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:33 PM
Meanwhile, the midwest drought continues unabated.

/hope you enjoy high food prices, subby
//and all the instability that comes from them
 
2013-01-06 12:51:02 PM
I wanted pictures of distressed ships trapped in ice. :(
 
2013-01-06 12:53:01 PM
You are confusing us, China!
 
2013-01-06 12:54:30 PM
Why are these stupid 'Derp- it's cold in one place, so the planetary trend towards a hotter climate isn't happening' headlines even greenlighted?
 
2013-01-06 12:54:43 PM
It's called climate change, you flat earthers.
 
2013-01-06 12:56:16 PM
CHecklist for this thread:

1: Submitter makes an eco-baiting headline: Check.
2: Knee-jerk reaction of early posters to grab their torches and pitchforks: Check.
3: first replies to Boobiesers snide and / or arrogant: check!
4: Charts of dubious authenticity: Check.
5: Low hanging fruit: Check
6: someone claiming one event isn't proof of (X): Check
7: Someone claiming this event is proof of (x): check
8: someone claiming that EVERYTHING is proof of (X): Check
9: Someone makes a list about the things in the thread that is obviously biased and not really funny... well, that's me, so Check.
10: The Aristocrats!... Uhh... no.. don't see them yet.
 
2013-01-06 12:58:42 PM

Straelbora: Why are these stupid 'Derp- it's cold in one place, so the planetary trend towards a hotter climate isn't happening' headlines even greenlighted?


This is why.
 
2013-01-06 12:58:53 PM
Has there ever been a time in the last 4 billion years when the Earth's climate wasn't changing??
 
2013-01-06 01:00:20 PM

jehovahs witness protection: QUICK, somebody call Al Gore. He can fix this.


Haw haw haw! I know, right?! He thinks he invented the internet, too! Haw haw hyuck!
 
2013-01-06 01:01:17 PM
Calm down everyone. I think the subby was just going for a cheap laugh, but the reactions make it seem like climate change is a religion. Like atheism!

/ducks
 
2013-01-06 01:01:27 PM
meanwhile, it's 7pm, an +6C where I am . It's really very freaky. I'm used to -20C December thru March. Spring blossoms on trees and all.

I can't even do my normal 'put everything on the balcony overnight' freezer defrosting.
 
2013-01-06 01:02:06 PM

STRYPERSWINE: Has there ever been a time in the last 4 billion years when the Earth's climate wasn't changing??


Question marks make good question more gooder.
 
2013-01-06 01:04:10 PM

Meisaims: I wanted pictures of distressed ships trapped in ice. :(


Rule 34?
 
2013-01-06 01:06:47 PM
"Climate Change"


This should be easier...less vowels...but doesn't sound as hot... (pun intended)
 
2013-01-06 01:08:16 PM

thamike: STRYPERSWINE: Has there ever been a time in the last 4 billion years when the Earth's climate wasn't changing??

Question marks make good question more gooderer.


Its plural. Man I hate grammar, nazis.
 
2013-01-06 01:09:33 PM

Cretony38: It's called climate change, you flat earthers.


Except it was called "global warming" in the 70's, 80's and 90's. "Climate Change" didn't start cropping up until the last ten years or so.

It's convenient, since the primary terminology thrown around about the theory of man-made planetary environmental catastrophe that gets thrown around is it's name. And when a location had "the biggest snows on record", (which isn't hard, since our records are pretty shallow in the US), it was easy for someone to joke "Wow, I hope some of that global warming happens soon" or "Where's all that global warming we're hearing about?" or whatever.

By making it "Climate change" (which is something that the planet does anyway), you've changed the nature of the layspeech about the topic, from one with a clear meaning (Planet getting hotter) to one with a more nebulous definition (The environment is changing).

Global warming has, in layperson's eyes, a clear linear progression: it should be warmer, with milder winters and hotter summers. Climate change, to the layperson, is confusing. Does it mean Snow in the summer? Drought through the year? "Super Storms"? It's delightfully simple to use the term to describe absolutely any significant event at all. I heard "Climate Change" being used in the wake of the East coast Earthquake last year, in spite of the fact that there is nothing related to climate about the tectonic plates.

TL;DR: I am a silly person. This is a silly thread.
 
2013-01-06 01:12:24 PM

STRYPERSWINE: Has there ever been a time in the last 4 billion years when the Earth's climate wasn't changing??


Short answer: No

Long answer...[Begin hyper graphic that illustrates the formation of the earth, how life on Earth completely changed the composition of the atmosphere...finish up with the fact that humanity managed to spring up in between ice ages and that we are headed for one within the next thousand years or so...]
 
2013-01-06 01:12:59 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The wonderful travels of a turd: What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.

What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.

Just like belief in God.


Question: do you believe that CO2 does not trap heat, or do you believe that we have released millions of years worth of stored carbon in the last 300 years?

I need to know so that I can know whether to enroll you in a high school chemistry class or a high school history class.
 
2013-01-06 01:13:39 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: The wonderful travels of a turd: What about 'extreme weather events' is so bloody hard to understand? The retardation is strong with subby.

What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.


What is so unfalsifiable about North America not having had years that were below average in temperature for 28 years now? You do realise that it is pretty odd for something as chaotic as weather not to result in years with temperatures below average for about a generation, don't you?
 
2013-01-06 01:14:48 PM
As many have said

Weather becomes chaotic
Overall global trend is one showing warming
Oceans are still acidifying
Long-term Ice cover is still disappearing
Droughts are prolonged and more frequent
Growing seasons are no longer reliable
Consistent predictable climate models no longer hold true.

We're change sensitive animals, and so we react very quickly to sudden dramatic events like this, and tend to place more significance on them given their locality due to an over-sensationalized media that loves to sell whatever tragedy or trivial event occurs. We have a very poor understanding for mundane overall trends that math and regular observation are much better at determining. Furthermore our exceptional way of thinking, and that means that we search for exceptions, not that we're good at it, means we'll continue to make fallacious arguments about overall trends based on one or two data points that appear outside the normal sequence. Then tendency to react to these statistically rare events is comical as we only serve to prove how much we're willing throw out cost vs risk when we feel that a threat may result in a dramatic tragedy, vs isolated cumulative tragedies.

Reality rewards those who acknowledge how things are, not how they wish they were.
 
2013-01-06 01:17:10 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: *checks*

Yep. Polar ice caps still melting.


what happens to ice when you break it up, say like an ice breaker that keeps shipping moving?
mabe it melts faster

I'm guessing a lot more ice is being broken now than it was 30 years ago
 
2013-01-06 01:17:40 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: What is so wonderful about the current version of Global Climate Change is that any (or no) events can be blamed on it, depending on the agenda of the person arguing for it. It is totally unfalsifiable.


www.washingtonpost.com

While you are looking at that graph, why don't you open up a book on statistics, look up "standard deviation" and find out the likelihood that events can occur at a frequency of more than three standard deviations from a previously established norm.

You'll find out that it isn't bloody likely.

But continue with your derptastic rant.

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Just like belief in God.


Sorry, climate change is science. god is not.
 
2013-01-06 01:17:41 PM
Man-bear-pig will get those farking ships outta there!
 
2013-01-06 01:18:08 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-06 01:19:42 PM

Fool_Marquis: Cretony38: It's called climate change, you flat earthers.

Except it was called "global warming" in the 70's, 80's and 90's. "Climate Change" didn't start cropping up until the last ten years or so.


They changed the name because troglodytes couldn't grasp how warmer climate could lead to occassional colder weather.

/apologies if that's what your TL;DR said :)
 
2013-01-06 01:37:38 PM

Cretony38: It's called climate change, you flat earthers.


.
Have no fear, in a few months it will change again.
 
2013-01-06 01:38:19 PM

Hollie Maea: Fool_Marquis: Cretony38: It's called climate change, you flat earthers.

Except it was called "global warming" in the 70's, 80's and 90's. "Climate Change" didn't start cropping up until the last ten years or so.

They changed the name because troglodytes couldn't grasp how warmer climate could lead to occassional colder weather.

/apologies if that's what your TL;DR said :)


It's not even true anyway, the IPCC was formed in 1988, and climate change was the nomenclature being used prior to that point in the scientific literature. Hell the whole reason global warming stopped being used in the media as much was a concerted effort at message massaging from the Bush admin.
 
2013-01-06 01:38:32 PM

Cretony38: It's called climate change, you flat earthers.


If the Earth ain't flat, how com ships fall off when theys gets to the horizon? You can't explain that.
 
2013-01-06 01:45:02 PM

Meisaims: I wanted pictures of distressed ships trapped in ice. :(


Link
 
2013-01-06 01:49:24 PM
Let the pro & anti (man made) global warming debate begin!

www.sdtimes.com
 
2013-01-06 01:50:32 PM

Meisaims: I wanted pictures of distressed ships trapped in ice. :(


Daily Mail to the rescue with it's not all bad news:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-06 02:01:16 PM

Fool_Marquis: CHecklist for this thread:

1: Submitter makes an eco-baiting headline: Check.
2: Knee-jerk reaction of early posters to grab their torches and pitchforks: Check.
3: first replies to Boobiesers snide and / or arrogant: check!
4: Charts of dubious authenticity: Check.
5: Low hanging fruit: Check
6: someone claiming one event isn't proof of (X): Check
7: Someone claiming this event is proof of (x): check
8: someone claiming that EVERYTHING is proof of (X): Check
9: Someone makes a list about the things in the thread that is obviously biased and not really funny... well, that's me, so Check.
10: The Aristocrats!... Uhh... no.. don't see them yet.


THE ARISTOCRATS!
/ I win!
 
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