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(Gallup)   Americans are unsure if the best times are past us or still yet to come. Apparently that depends on whether or not you are a Cubs fan   (gallup.com) divider line 30
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2013-01-06 07:34:47 AM  
We seem to have stagnated, so I am not terribly hopeful. But then, we always seem to forget the horrible parts of the past, so I am hopeful.
 
2013-01-06 09:32:13 AM  
You'd have to be a blind old fool to think the best was behind us.

That has never been correct.
 
2013-01-06 09:43:39 AM  
Anyone who pines for the good old days is invited to visit a dentist who uses the technology and techniques of the preferred era.
 
2013-01-06 10:24:04 AM  
Gallup poll. Can't trust the numbers.
 
2013-01-06 10:24:06 AM  

EvilEgg: We seem to have stagnated, so I am not terribly hopeful. But then, we always seem to forget the horrible parts of the past, so I am hopeful.


People always view the past through rose-tinted glasses. That's a part of human nature, for whatever reason. Certainly it's easier to look back on something like WWII with nostalgia (assuming you're American), since people today know we won. At the time, we were in a relative underdog position and it must have been pretty scary to actually live through.

I'm guessing our current time (or any current time) is pretty similar. You have challenges and uncertainties, because that's the nature of the world we live in. Looking back in 50 years, we'll know what the outcomes were, and it will be easier to focus on the good times.
 
2013-01-06 10:37:41 AM  
After looking at those numbers, I can see that the Party of Fear is aptly named. Lighten up, people. The horrible blah guy has only got four years left in office.
 
2013-01-06 10:38:00 AM  
Outside of a powerful ideology, I don't know how people can look at America's future and be hopeful. Maybe it comes from traveling and living abroad, but I see things as getting worse in the U.S and there doesn't seem to be the type of political system or civic activism that will change that.
 
2013-01-06 10:42:06 AM  
Behind us: building big things, setting new records, winning wars, walking on the moon, ruling half the planet.
Ahead of us: the new iPhone.

/I think we're long overdue for a civil war or machine uprising or something.
/bring on the revolution, but make sure its not televised this time.
 
2013-01-06 10:47:16 AM  
Only one way to find out, right?
 
2013-01-06 10:48:38 AM  

coco ebert: Outside of a powerful ideology, I don't know how people can look at America's future and be hopeful. Maybe it comes from traveling and living abroad, but I see things as getting worse in the U.S and there doesn't seem to be the type of political system or civic activism that will change that.


It depends on how you define better and worse. I don't think we're heading for the shiatter as much as some people do. Our country had a pretty grim outlook (in terms of economic/social stability) several times in the last century: the 1930s, late 1960s, and late 1970s, and things always improved again. We're in a transformative time right now, but I don't see things as getting "worse," or at least not in an unprecedented way.
 
2013-01-06 10:54:15 AM  

way south: Ahead of us: the new iPhone.


And for the present: patents on rounded corners and using photocopiers to make copies.
 
2013-01-06 11:14:51 AM  
Things in general are both the best and worst they have ever been.

Best? I can buy a large TV for about $300. I can have high speed internet, Netflix, Xbox360, etc and afford it on a low paying job. If I want, I can live like a king on a relatively low income.

Worst? Half or more of all kids growing up come from single parent homes. Another half of those who don't have parents who are both working. Our Litigeous society prevents us from doing simple things like leaving our kids outside for the day, drinking coffee that is hot, and spanking our children. Most people don't eat real food and rely on restaurants and processed goods.

Some things are better, some things are worse.
 
2013-01-06 11:31:22 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: coco ebert: Outside of a powerful ideology, I don't know how people can look at America's future and be hopeful. Maybe it comes from traveling and living abroad, but I see things as getting worse in the U.S and there doesn't seem to be the type of political system or civic activism that will change that.

It depends on how you define better and worse. I don't think we're heading for the shiatter as much as some people do. Our country had a pretty grim outlook (in terms of economic/social stability) several times in the last century: the 1930s, late 1960s, and late 1970s, and things always improved again. We're in a transformative time right now, but I don't see things as getting "worse," or at least not in an unprecedented way.


In the long run, things seem to have gotten better over time. I see nothing uniquely horrible about our current era.
 
2013-01-06 11:33:29 AM  
Of course they are unsure, they can't even decide what "best" means.

Does it mean fabian socialist nanny state, cause that might be on it's way. Does it mean a fascist oligarchy, cause that's been around since the 30's. Does it mean everything's cheap, one size fits all and plasticy like the 50's? Does it mean half a century of deflation, unprecedented tech development and economic growth, cause that's the post Lincoln America.

Personally, I believe the best is DEFINITELY still to come. The internet has already changed everything, and we won't knw how much for fifty years. Cottage industry is reascending with CNC/3D printing that will literally change what it means to be human when all of it gives way to nano-assembly.

Communications are already making it difficult for government to operate, and tech will make transportation even cheaper, completing the process of making governments redundant. Graphene process desalination will end the days of drought affecting agriculture, while permaculture will spread to all arid areas of the globe, leading to a greening of the deserts. But in the mean time expect crowd sourcing/ crowd funding to allow for things that just would never have happened before.

This all has one caveaut. America may not be here to see it. America may be a nuclear wasteland because Washington DC is just that hubris plagued.
 
2013-01-06 11:48:40 AM  
3D Printing will change everything. You'll see.
 
2013-01-06 11:51:38 AM  
Just ask a boomer. They'll tell ya.
 
2013-01-06 12:02:24 PM  
It's a political thing. The liberals always imagine a better future, the conservatives always lament a better but lost glorious past.
 
2013-01-06 12:11:59 PM  

edmo: It's a political thing. The liberals always imagine a better future, the conservatives always lament a better but lost glorious past.


Mostly cause most conservatives are about 200 years old and still think it's 1950
 
2013-01-06 12:23:36 PM  
I wish coke was still cola
And a joint was a bad place to be
 
2013-01-06 12:54:09 PM  
"Americans are unsure if the best times are past us or still yet to come. Apparently that depends on whether or not you are a Cubs fan"

The addled brain of a Cubs fan is able to simultaneously revel in the glories of the past, while believing that the Cubbies will be back next year better than ever.

/they could hardly get worse...
 
2013-01-06 01:23:03 PM  
 
2013-01-06 02:04:17 PM  
Rumor has it it's the end of paradise...
 
2013-01-06 02:08:20 PM  
I think we're currently in a valley since our last peak.

/this valley having been caused by blind adherence to 'trickle down economics'
 
2013-01-06 04:05:09 PM  
Next stop: Willoughby
 
2013-01-06 05:02:52 PM  

Volkl Yokel: Rumor has it it's the end of paradise...


Snowblind is a criminally underrated song. That is all.
 
2013-01-06 06:13:43 PM  

matthew_tray: Volkl Yokel: Rumor has it it's the end of paradise...

Snowblind is a criminally underrated song. That is all.


Interesting
 
2013-01-06 06:56:40 PM  

EvilEgg: We seem to have stagnated, so I am not terribly hopeful. But then, we always seem to forget the horrible parts of the past, so I am hopeful.


Same in the UK. Realistically it's your fault (and mine) as the electorate, we elect people in to power who realistically only want power for themselves; for all the Pom Pom waving we all know Obama is as much in it for himself and business associates as Bush Jr. was... same with David Cameron over here.

That and the majority are too easily led with too short a memory to remember why they didn't want to vote the way the usually did (i.e. Tony Blair and his handling of the fuel protests here in the UK as an example).

We, the electorate, need to pull our thumbs out of our collective asses and actually start getting involved with the affairs of those who would lead us... if we don't like what we find; we boot the kick the freeloader to the curb and try again.

And yes, the feeding troughs we've set up for all of those 'preferred suppliers' of things the government us (and are more often than not connected to politicians themselves) need some diesel poured in them and set on fire.

Sure it'll be a painful experience for all involved but it's perhaps worth it to end up with honest politicians who actually do what their constituents want them to do and not what the corporations want.
 
2013-01-06 07:16:57 PM  
Something great could come along within the next decade and pull us out of our funk. That colder than absolute zero discovery might just be that thing.
 
2013-01-06 07:57:55 PM  
lazyboydiaries.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-07 01:02:25 AM  
As referenced by another Farker:

www.blackgate.com

Sigh. I want to go to Willoughby.

www.thecosmicflyswatter.com
 
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