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2013-01-06 12:41:25 PM  

whatshisname: lilistonic: itsfullofstars: Brits suffer from the same problem everyone in Europe suffers from in their view of the US. They compare the UK to the US and Germany to the US and France to the US and Luxembourg to the US. It just doesn't scale. Europeans should be comparing Europe to the US.

Europe's landmass is about the size of the southern US states. Europe's population is more than double that of the US. The UK is the size of Oregon and has about the population of California, Texas and New York combined. Germany should compare itself to Montana landwise but can add Pennsylvania and Ohio to the UK's list of US states population wise.

Point is, Europeans insist on comparing their country to this other country that is so dominate culturally, politically and economically, and its just silly.

These arguments are frequently made during discussions of buildout of public transportation, broadband, public health services. They further demonstrate many Europeans lack of understanding of geography outside their own continent. It's not an anti-American thing. They make the same arguments to Australians, failing to understand how big that place is.

Precisely.

Dear European Countries:


Believing you can apply any one solution that works for a small crowded country of people from mostly the same genetic background to a place as large and diverse as this one is patently absurd. (Was it here I read about studies which show why certain medical treatments can easily be applied to a whole nation of Swedes, but when they're brought here, it all becomes frightfully complex?)


And both countries: really big and really far away from you. Your stereotypes of us should be left on stage with the comedians.

You do realize that you and itsfullofstars are countering stereotypes with stereotypes?

I was born in Europe, live in Canada and have traveled extensively in the US. My experience has always been that Americans are far more insular and uninformed abut the rest of the world than Eu ...


Possibly, as people are people. It's dumb all over. But here we are speaking specifically of the article's intent and of people wishing to blanket their wisdom and solutions on others, and (heap ridicule on them for extreme examples) when others live in a very different situation.
 
2013-01-06 12:41:52 PM  

ATRDCI: Bungles: Mr. Shabooboo: And yet, you miss the point.. For someone in the U.K. to know the political goings on of, say, Romania
is no big deal simply because of geography. People in Nebraska probably know some of what is going
on in North Dakota or Oklahoma..And yet those distances would be no different than that of London
to Bucharest. Just because our states are not differentiated countries with different languages doesn't
mean a person in "insular". How much do you think the average London dweller would know of the
day to day comings and goings in Guinea Bissau? Probably about as much as anyone in the U.S.
or Canada would! It's a false analogy to equate knowledge of happenings in X number of countries to "insulation".

What do you mean "because of geography"? Do you think that someone in London somehow absorbs the political situation in Romania through magic because it's "only" 2500kms away? Or is information somehow harder to absorb the further it is from its origin?

It's nothing to do with geography, it's to do with a specifically American insularism. Just look at Australia. The average Australian has a comparatively very solid understanding of global affairs, and they're close to no-one but dolphins and some uninhabited Japanese islands.

People naturally care about and look for information that affects them. They are naturally going to know more about the goings on that happen closer to them. A person living in Hastings would know more about the goings on of Hastings then they would about the daily goings on of York. Similarly, a person in England would know more about English events. The distance between the US and France is around 4000 miles. Would you chastise Britons who are ignorant of the inner workings of the various African countries that are about that far way?


Most Westerners are ignorant of African events, because most Westerners don't consider Africa to be important or interesting, as cruel as that sounds.

The difference is that most Western countries generally are reasonably aware of other Western nations in a way that a significantly larger number of Americans just aren't. Most Germans, French, Canadians, Australians, Brits, New Zealanders etc would be able to name each other's leaders (or at least their last one), point them out on a map, and have a vague grasp of their culture. From my experience the same just ins't true to the same degree in the US.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:56 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: whatshisname: lilistonic: itsfullofstars: Brits suffer from the same problem everyone in Europe suffers from in their view of the US. They compare the UK to the US and Germany to the US and France to the US and Luxembourg to the US. It just doesn't scale. Europeans should be comparing Europe to the US.

Europe's landmass is about the size of the southern US states. Europe's population is more than double that of the US. The UK is the size of Oregon and has about the population of California, Texas and New York combined. Germany should compare itself to Montana landwise but can add Pennsylvania and Ohio to the UK's list of US states population wise.

Point is, Europeans insist on comparing their country to this other country that is so dominate culturally, politically and economically, and its just silly.

These arguments are frequently made during discussions of buildout of public transportation, broadband, public health services. They further demonstrate many Europeans lack of understanding of geography outside their own continent. It's not an anti-American thing. They make the same arguments to Australians, failing to understand how big that place is.

Precisely.

Dear European Countries:


Believing you can apply any one solution that works for a small crowded country of people from mostly the same genetic background to a place as large and diverse as this one is patently absurd. (Was it here I read about studies which show why certain medical treatments can easily be applied to a whole nation of Swedes, but when they're brought here, it all becomes frightfully complex?)


And both countries: really big and really far away from you. Your stereotypes of us should be left on stage with the comedians.

You do realize that you and itsfullofstars are countering stereotypes with stereotypes?

I was born in Europe, live in Canada and have traveled extensively in the US. My experience has always been that Americans are far more insular and uninformed abut the rest of the ...


I didn't miss his point at all. I see several other points, but was not commenting on those, only on what's related to the article and how the poster expressed his view of it.

You all can carry on arguing over tree bark, as you like, as usual. It's a form of philosophy I'm not really into, myself.
 
2013-01-06 12:43:58 PM  

Bungles: What do you mean "because of geography"? Do you think that someone in London somehow absorbs the political situation in Romania through magic because it's "only" 2500kms away? Or is information somehow harder to absorb the further it is from its origin?


If I found out that someone had a meth lab next to my house, I'd be a little more concerned about that than I would be about a meth lab on the opposite coast.

It's no different with politics. When your political neighbors are building that proverbial meth lab, you can't just sit idly by and wait for their mistake to cripple your country. Yet those of us who are isolated have nothing to gain or lose when things do head south, so we just don't see it as a priority, especially when we have people building a meth lab in our own basement.
 
2013-01-06 12:55:42 PM  

Relatively Obscure: That author was trying way, way, way too hard.


using multiples of "way" does not increase the emphasis, it shows an ignorance of your native language.
 
2013-01-06 01:07:14 PM  

Bungles: The difference is that most Western countries generally are reasonably aware of other Western nations in a way that a significantly larger number of Americans just aren't. Most Germans, French, Canadians, Australians, Brits, New Zealanders etc would be able to name each other's leaders (or at least their last one), point them out on a map, and have a vague grasp of their culture. From my experience the same just ins't true to the same degree in the US.


With the exception of US Canada, Australia and New Zealand, all of the "Western Nations" are right next to each other in Europe. Similarly, Texans could talk to you about Louisiana, Oklahoma, etc etc. and New Yorkers know about New Jersey and other northeastern states. The difference between the US and Canada/Australia/New Zealand is historically and culturally. The latter 3 are still a part of the Commonwealth Realm, had relatively good relations with Britain and still recognize the Queen as head of state. Culturally, they are still relatively close to England and would care about much the same information that Britons would care about (like a Finn who moved to Mexico would still care about the EU though a native born Mexican would not care as much)

The US on the other hand violently broke away, fought them again in 1912 and has supported isolationist polices historically, which are back by geography. From Washington's farewell address, to the Monroe Doctrine, to the unwillingness to join both world wars, etc. So it is pretty much geographically and culturally instilled that Americans don't care as much about European countries.
 
2013-01-06 01:08:49 PM  

blurr_grrl: [i102.photobucket.com image 640x452]

When this is one of Britain's most highest-rated shows - what do you think?


They love the irony that the lead actor is British?
 
2013-01-06 01:09:43 PM  
One of the most poorly written articles I've seen in a long time - so thoroughly disjointed and rambling that only someone with serrious mental issues could make any sense of it.

How about we all get back to making fun of how the Brits mangle their language so badly that nobody can understand them?
 
2013-01-06 01:17:16 PM  
It is human to covet and resent at the same time...
 
2013-01-06 01:17:53 PM  
I spend several weeks in London every year and I find that the best way to deal with Brits is just to act like their royalty. Basically an Englishman lacks any backbone or wit. They are very uncomfortable making choices and aren't particularly good at making their own decisions. The Englishman is happiest when he is under the control of his betters, this is why we as Americans must continue to lead Brittian in world politics.
 
2013-01-06 01:18:05 PM  

1000Monkeys: TL:DR version of TFA: I got a dictionary for Christmas.


Winner, Winner. Chicken Dinner. I was having difficulty figuring out whether he was attempting to sound like a stereotypical "English Snob" from the movies or, as you stated, found a thesaurus in his basement.

That being said, I do have a strange, familial sense of our cousins across the pond. Hell, I don't any other country evokes that from other Americans. Do immigrants from other countries feel that way to their motherland? The U.S. and Poland or Uganda as brother nations? I don't think so, but I'm a white, limey lad so perhaps I am biased. Does Australia have a similar feeling towards Great Britain?

The relationship between us makes me think of a child that was taken care of by an older sibling. The sister loved, but still beat up, its younger brother. Eventually the young man grew up enough to beat the older lady's arse. Once the bickering, "I hate you", phase that all siblings go through was over, the younger (and now much stronger) brother began sticking up for his older sister while the sister lauded, praised and supported all that her little brother would do.

/damn, I need to call my sis and tell her I love her.
 
2013-01-06 01:23:06 PM  
Hell, "Across the Pond". Do we use that term for any other country? It's like talking about your friend across the street. I don't think we are that familiar with fricking Canada and they share a land border.
 
2013-01-06 01:23:38 PM  

Valeriyance: 1000Monkeys: TL:DR version of TFA: I got a dictionary for Christmas.

Winner, Winner. Chicken Dinner. I was having difficulty figuring out whether he was attempting to sound like a stereotypical "English Snob" from the movies or, as you stated, found a thesaurus in his basement.

That being said, I do have a strange, familial sense of our cousins across the pond. Hell, I don't any other country evokes that from other Americans. Do immigrants from other countries feel that way to their motherland? The U.S. and Poland or Uganda as brother nations? I don't think so, but I'm a white, limey lad so perhaps I am biased. Does Australia have a similar feeling towards Great Britain?

The relationship between us makes me think of a child that was taken care of by an older sibling. The sister loved, but still beat up, its younger brother. Eventually the young man grew up enough to beat the older lady's arse. Once the bickering, "I hate you", phase that all siblings go through was over, the younger (and now much stronger) brother began sticking up for his older sister while the sister lauded, praised and supported all that her little brother would do.

/damn, I need to call my sis and tell her I love her.


Will Self, even though a pretentious asshat, knows those words, and far more besides. He's from the Fry or Hitchens school of genuinely linguistically erudite.
 
2013-01-06 01:26:46 PM  
Came for pics of hot British chicks.

oh. Right.
 
2013-01-06 01:31:43 PM  

KrispyKritter: Relatively Obscure: That author was trying way, way, way too hard.

using multiples of "way" does not increase the emphasis, it shows an ignorance of your native language.


You're trying way, way, way too hard.
 
2013-01-06 01:35:21 PM  

dopekitty74: miss diminutive: Bungles: miss diminutive: Are they still sore over losing their empire and being reduced to pawns in the geopolitical game?

Give it a few decades, my young American padawan, and you'll understand.

I'm Canadian....the Monopoly boot of the geopolitical chess-board. We always understand.

It seems to me that we Canadians are very much the middle ground in this issue. We have american and british pop culture, our political system is somewhere between the two as well, plus we have our own little subcultures that reflect other things going on in the world too.

Where you from miss diminutive? I'm in NB


Plus we still have the queen on our money.

/Ontario here.
 
2013-01-06 01:39:33 PM  
Is this the thread where we complain?
 
2013-01-06 01:43:13 PM  

gameshowhost: Is this the thread where we complain?


You mean there are threads where we don't?
 
2013-01-06 01:48:54 PM  

blurr_grrl: [i102.photobucket.com image 640x452]

When this is one of Britain's most highest-rated shows - what do you think?


I'm British and had absolutely no idea of what that represented and had to google it. When I found out what it was... I've seen it on the listings, but I've never watched it and I've never heard anyone of my acquaintance even mention it. There are plenty of shows that I don't watch but they are popular so I'm aware of their presence, but not this. So..... maybe not even in the top 100?
 
2013-01-06 01:51:18 PM  

tshauk: I think we just found the British Dennis Miller.


Seriously, is there anyone easier to hate than this asshat.


www.wmeentertainment.com
 
2013-01-06 01:57:12 PM  
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2013-01-06 02:02:11 PM  
blurr_grrl: [i102.photobucket.com image 640x452]

When this is one of Britain's most highest-rated shows - what do you think?

No it isn't. What makes you think that?


International Ratings Highlights for The Walking Dead - Season 2

Delivered 16.9 million households within all FIC markets
Delivered 8 million households across all FIC metered markets
Ranked #1 in regions like UK (1.76 rat%), Spain (2.75 rat%), Argentina (0.81 rat%), Colombia (0.94 rat%) and Mexico (1.31 rat%), Italy (1.93 rat%) and Slovenia (0.62 rat%).
Broke ratings records previously held by The Walking Dead's season 1 & season 2 premieres

UK - FX (Key BARB Highlights):

Averaged 737,200 Total Pay Viewers (558,400 in key 18-49 demo) - over performing its lead in by 100% among Pay P18-49 and +31% among Total Pay Viewers
Ranked #1 among all Pay TV channels in key 18-49 demo with a 3.05 rating and Total Viewers with a 1.98 rating.

excepts from 'tvbythenumbers' website
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/22/the-walking-deads-much-an t icipated-global-return-sets-new-ratings-records-on-fox-international-c hannels/121311/
 
2013-01-06 02:07:58 PM  

blurr_grrl: blurr_grrl: [i102.photobucket.com image 640x452]

When this is one of Britain's most highest-rated shows - what do you think?

No it isn't. What makes you think that?

International Ratings Highlights for The Walking Dead - Season 2

Delivered 16.9 million households within all FIC markets
Delivered 8 million households across all FIC metered markets
Ranked #1 in regions like UK (1.76 rat%), Spain (2.75 rat%), Argentina (0.81 rat%), Colombia (0.94 rat%) and Mexico (1.31 rat%), Italy (1.93 rat%) and Slovenia (0.62 rat%).
Broke ratings records previously held by The Walking Dead's season 1 & season 2 premieres

UK - FX (Key BARB Highlights):

Averaged 737,200 Total Pay Viewers (558,400 in key 18-49 demo) - over performing its lead in by 100% among Pay P18-49 and +31% among Total Pay Viewers
Ranked #1 among all Pay TV channels in key 18-49 demo with a 3.05 rating and Total Viewers with a 1.98 rating.

excepts from 'tvbythenumbers' website
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/22/the-walking-deads-much-an t icipated-global-return-sets-new-ratings-records-on-fox-international-c hannels/121311/


I have no idea what "ranked no 1" means. Maybe no 1 on the obscure Sky channel it ran on? It was on " FX" apparently. I haven't even heard of that channel, and I doubt many have.

I can assure you that no program on a channel called FX would even crack the top 250 programs in a week. If it's not on BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV, or Channel 4, it's essentially way, way out the mainstream in the UK.
 
2013-01-06 02:11:17 PM  

tonguedepressor: tshauk: I think we just found the British Dennis Miller.

Seriously, is there anyone easier to hate than this asshat.


[www.wmeentertainment.com image 241x347]


It's funny: Back in the 1980's, liberals loved him and conservatives hated him. Now it's reversed. I guess it just matters whose side he is poking fun of.
 
2013-01-06 02:14:34 PM  

dittybopper: tonguedepressor: tshauk: I think we just found the British Dennis Miller.

Seriously, is there anyone easier to hate than this asshat.


[www.wmeentertainment.com image 241x347]

It's funny: Back in the 1980's, liberals loved him and conservatives hated him. Now it's reversed. I guess it just matters whose side he is poking fun of.


To be fair, there are few funny conservative comedians. I can't think of one, but there must be a few.
 
2013-01-06 02:31:42 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I imagine we Americans probably aren't as wry and witty as those Brits because we've burned out our brain cells shooting novocaine into our gums and stuffing aluminum salts under our arm pits.


Aluminium salts.
 
2013-01-06 02:32:53 PM  

Serious Black: "The spectacle of US democracy in action is at once ridiculed and revered over here. Looked at one way it is an unholy combination of demagoguery and plutocracy, what with its pork-barrelling politicians soliciting corporate donations for prime time television advertising."

Never has a truer sentence ever been spoken.


Yeah, I was looking for more of a...you know..."British food v American food" type of thing, here.

And just because the author made full use of his/her thesaurus, that doesn't mean I have to use equivalent effort to disentangle his doggerel.
 
2013-01-06 02:35:52 PM  

dittybopper: tonguedepressor: tshauk: I think we just found the British Dennis Miller.

Seriously, is there anyone easier to hate than this asshat.


[www.wmeentertainment.com image 241x347]

It's funny: Back in the 1980's, liberals loved him and conservatives hated him. Now it's reversed. I guess it just matters whose side he is poking fun of.


You're absolutely right but what made him a massengil product for me was when he was doing Monday nite football. What a pompous unknowledgeable had-no-business-doing color twit he was and still is.
 
2013-01-06 02:47:16 PM  

DS1970: Serious Black: "The spectacle of US democracy in action is at once ridiculed and revered over here. Looked at one way it is an unholy combination of demagoguery and plutocracy, what with its pork-barrelling politicians soliciting corporate donations for prime time television advertising."

Never has a truer sentence ever been spoken.

Yeah, I was looking for more of a...you know..."British food v American food" type of thing, here.

And just because the author made full use of his/her thesaurus, that doesn't mean I have to use equivalent effort to disentangle his doggerel.


Will Self is in many ways a tit, but he does not need a thesaurus. Just watch him on a discussion panel. He's been on hundreds.
 
2013-01-06 02:47:52 PM  

LordZorch: One of the most poorly written articles I've seen in a long time - so thoroughly disjointed and rambling that only someone with serrious mental issues could make any sense of it.

How about we all get back to making fun of how the Brits mangle their language so badly that nobody can understand them?


Funny you should mention, I was drinking with some British girls whose fathers were Leftist university professors in England. They were quite angrily arguing that unpopular speech should & must be censored, concluding with: "you Yanks mango da Engwish wanguage." Mind you, these girls were both PhD, not council chavs.

It is atrocious how the British drop and add the R, pronounce "th" as "v," "l" as "w," lisp, etc.
 
2013-01-06 02:50:04 PM  

Goodfella: Mid_mo_mad_man: Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so

You can drive anywhere in the lower 48 in three days, so they were close.


I wasn't quite sure on that (especially with no explanation of what entailed a "day") so I looked it up.

1. The estimate of the longest distance between two points in the lower 48 is around (there are several around this) 2873 miles, from Neah Bay, WA to Islamorada, FL.

2. Assuming an average speed of 60 mph it would take just shy of 48 hours of total driving (2873/60 = 47.89)

3. and assuming each day of driving entailed 12 hours of solid driving, we have 4 days of driving (47.89/12 ~=4).

So the visitors thought the U.S. lower 48 were one-forth their real size. That's quite a difference.
 
2013-01-06 02:51:37 PM  

CoonAce: LordZorch: One of the most poorly written articles I've seen in a long time - so thoroughly disjointed and rambling that only someone with serrious mental issues could make any sense of it.

How about we all get back to making fun of how the Brits mangle their language so badly that nobody can understand them?

Funny you should mention, I was drinking with some British girls whose fathers were Leftist university professors in England. They were quite angrily arguing that unpopular speech should & must be censored, concluding with: "you Yanks mango da Engwish wanguage." Mind you, these girls were both PhD, not council chavs.

It is atrocious how the British drop and add the R, pronounce "th" as "v," "l" as "w," lisp, etc.


Is this were I point out the number grammatical clusterfarks in that paragraph?
 
2013-01-06 02:58:07 PM  

DS1970: Goodfella: Mid_mo_mad_man: Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so

You can drive anywhere in the lower 48 in three days, so they were close.

I wasn't quite sure on that (especially with no explanation of what entailed a "day") so I looked it up.

1. The estimate of the longest distance between two points in the lower 48 is around (there are several around this) 2873 miles, from Neah Bay, WA to Islamorada, FL.

2. Assuming an average speed of 60 mph it would take just shy of 48 hours of total driving (2873/60 = 47.89)

3. and assuming each day of driving entailed 12 hours of solid driving, we have 4 days of driving (47.89/12 ~=4).

So the visitors thought the U.S. lower 48 were one-forth their real size. That's quite a difference.


That's only three times the distance between Land's End and John O'Grots in the UK (about 900 or so miles), a country people here seem to be insisting is tiny and would fit on Manhattan. And that's not counting the Scottish isles that go out half that or so again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land's_End_to_John_o'_Groats
 
2013-01-06 03:02:02 PM  
I'm an anglophile been one since before it was cool and even I didn't understand that article.
 
2013-01-06 03:02:35 PM  

Bungles: DS1970: Goodfella: Mid_mo_mad_man: Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so

You can drive anywhere in the lower 48 in three days, so they were close.

I wasn't quite sure on that (especially with no explanation of what entailed a "day") so I looked it up.

1. The estimate of the longest distance between two points in the lower 48 is around (there are several around this) 2873 miles, from Neah Bay, WA to Islamorada, FL.

2. Assuming an average speed of 60 mph it would take just shy of 48 hours of total driving (2873/60 = 47.89)

3. and assuming each day of driving entailed 12 hours of solid driving, we have 4 days of driving (47.89/12 ~=4).

So the visitors thought the U.S. lower 48 were one-forth their real size. That's quite a difference.

That's only three times the distance between Land's End and John O'Grots in the UK (about 900 or so miles), a country people here seem to be insisting is tiny and would fit on Manhattan. And that's not counting the Scottish isles that go out half that or so again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land's_End_to_John_o'_Groats


Meh, 900 or so miles would get you from one side of Texas to the other.
 
2013-01-06 03:08:42 PM  

Bungles: Is this were I point out the number grammatical clusterfarks in that paragraph?


Bungles: Is this were


Yeah, do that.
 
2013-01-06 03:11:00 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Bungles: Is this were I point out the number grammatical clusterfarks in that paragraph?

Bungles: Is this were

Yeah, do that.



There's a reason why I didn't, you cheeky little monkey.
 
2013-01-06 03:14:12 PM  
Um.... complicated British stuff.

I like Iron Maiden, Doctor Who and Bass Ale.
 
2013-01-06 03:15:34 PM  

blurr_grrl: blurr_grrl: [i102.photobucket.com image 640x452]

When this is one of Britain's most highest-rated shows - what do you think?

No it isn't. What makes you think that?

International Ratings Highlights for The Walking Dead - Season 2

Delivered 16.9 million households within all FIC markets
Delivered 8 million households across all FIC metered markets
Ranked #1 in regions like UK (1.76 rat%), Spain (2.75 rat%), Argentina (0.81 rat%), Colombia (0.94 rat%) and Mexico (1.31 rat%), Italy (1.93 rat%) and Slovenia (0.62 rat%).
Broke ratings records previously held by The Walking Dead's season 1 & season 2 premieres

UK - FX (Key BARB Highlights):

Averaged 737,200 Total Pay Viewers (558,400 in key 18-49 demo) - over performing its lead in by 100% among Pay P18-49 and +31% among Total Pay Viewers
Ranked #1 among all Pay TV channels in key 18-49 demo with a 3.05 rating and Total Viewers with a 1.98 rating.

excepts from 'tvbythenumbers' website
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/22/the-walking-deads-much-an t icipated-global-return-sets-new-ratings-records-on-fox-international-c hannels/121311/


Still not many people watching. By your figures, 737200 average viewers = 1.16% of the population. That's not a top show by any stretch of the imagination. Even Frozen Planet averages about 16% of the population (9717000).
 
2013-01-06 03:26:08 PM  
Yanks are all disgustingly stupid, uneducated, savage, ignorant retards that suffer from severe cognitive dissonance!
 
2013-01-06 03:30:40 PM  
i593.photobucket.com

Services like BSkyB made 18 billion (US) last year from Brits who (apparently) watch programming beyond the 'telly'.
How 'bout those numbers?
 
2013-01-06 03:33:43 PM  

pippi longstocking: Yanks are all disgustingly stupid, uneducated, savage, ignorant retards that suffer from severe cognitive dissonance!


Never been to a soccer (football) match, I gather.
 
2013-01-06 03:36:57 PM  

chuckufarlie: vudukungfu: Came for pics of hot British chicks.

oh. Right.

[thisisbirmingham.files.wordpress.com image 604x419]


Blonde w/ MySpace photo... need moar to judge.
 
2013-01-06 03:37:23 PM  

blurr_grrl: [i593.photobucket.com image 657x1024]

Services like BSkyB made 18 billion (US) last year from Brits who (apparently) watch programming beyond the 'telly'.
How 'bout those numbers?


How does that relate to your claim about top TV programme? BSkyB is a satellite tv company. They show lots of channels (about 700 I think). BBC, Channel 4 and ITV channels are among them. Don't know what you mean by "programming beyond the 'telly'". Internet TV? What's your point?
 
2013-01-06 03:38:23 PM  
Was there a  point somewhere in this article, or did I just happen to miss it?

/Mr. Self, I'd like to remind you that we typically put our thesis statement at the end of the first paragraph.
 
2013-01-06 03:42:13 PM  
If I could write drivel like that for a thesis I'd be rich.

/Oh wait...
 
2013-01-06 03:42:23 PM  

Bungles: DS1970: Goodfella: Mid_mo_mad_man: Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so

You can drive anywhere in the lower 48 in three days, so they were close.

I wasn't quite sure on that (especially with no explanation of what entailed a "day") so I looked it up.

1. The estimate of the longest distance between two points in the lower 48 is around (there are several around this) 2873 miles, from Neah Bay, WA to Islamorada, FL.

2. Assuming an average speed of 60 mph it would take just shy of 48 hours of total driving (2873/60 = 47.89)

3. and assuming each day of driving entailed 12 hours of solid driving, we have 4 days of driving (47.89/12 ~=4).

So the visitors thought the U.S. lower 48 were one-forth their real size. That's quite a difference.

That's only three times the distance between Land's End and John O'Grots in the UK (about 900 or so miles), a country people here seem to be insisting is tiny and would fit on Manhattan. And that's not counting the Scottish isles that go out half that or so again.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land's_End_to_John_o'_Groats


Try a drive from Halifax, Nova Scotia to Flin Flon, Manitoba. Not too bad until you get to Thunder Bay, then woods, woods and more woods until near the Manitoba border. Lots of fairly low level topography but very little civilization. Nice scenery sometimes. Then you leave the shield country and hit the prairie. No transition, just a straight line through the grain that goes on and on and on and on...to Winnipeg. Hang a right, head north. Straight line through the grain...until you get to the woods. Then, straight line through the woods. I honestly thought I was goin to lose my mind. Canada is serious, hardcore big.
 
2013-01-06 03:49:02 PM  
The "Idiocracy" is strong in this thread. It's sad, really. I smh at my compatriots who are put off at the thought of learning a new word or two. Or, the horror; "tl;dr". God forbid that farkers should have the attention span of a gnat. They might learn something useful. Then they would be really dangerous.
 
2013-01-06 03:57:48 PM  
Valeriyance
2013-01-06 01:23:06 PM

Hell, "Across the Pond". Do we use that term for any other country? It's like talking about your friend across the street. I don't think we are that familiar with fricking Canada and they share a land border.


This. They are our closest cultural friend yet its a pretty big divide IMHO. I dealt with quite a lot of British folks when I worked overseas in Asia and it was sort of eye opening.

I made friends with a few of them but despite us sharing a lot of institutions with them and a common language, I really found their attitudes and especially the humor (and coming from someone who enjoys a number of their comedy shows - peep show, black adder, young ones, to name a few) often hard to wrap my head around. The attutude was often a kind of mix of snobbery, pure meaness and insecurity. I didn't care much for it. Granted it was just in Asia and maybe if I was in the UK, I'd run into much nicer people. I dunno. I didn't come away with a good impression of many of them.
 
2013-01-06 04:06:14 PM  

glennizen: The "Idiocracy" is strong in this thread. It's sad, really. I smh at my compatriots who are put off at the thought of learning a new word or two. Or, the horror; "tl;dr". God forbid that farkers should have the attention span of a gnat. They might learn something useful. Then they would be really dangerous.


Well, we smh at you.
 
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