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(BBC)   The British and their bizarre view of Americans   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 234
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2013-01-06 08:43:49 AM  

planes: [www.global-air.com image 150x195]

It took the genius of America to recognize that with a little extra hammering and spannering the motor car could be converted into the motor home. But, the Brits think we're a bit odd for doing it. (new window)



But they adore caravans. I think the bafflement is more along the line of "Once you're in that lovely Welsh ocean bay, you want to be able to detach your car to go to the shops, rather than take your entire house to Sainsburys for milk".
 
2013-01-06 08:47:16 AM  
YAAAAWN, stretch...oh is the article over?

No way is tmesis a word. That's gotta be a typo.
 
2013-01-06 08:48:37 AM  

Relatively Obscure: That author was trying way, way, way too hard.



gettingdownwithjesus.com

The word, he was paid by
 
2013-01-06 08:49:01 AM  
i911.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-06 08:49:02 AM  
Are they still sore over losing their empire and being reduced to pawns in the geopolitical game?
 
2013-01-06 08:49:11 AM  

LDM90: YAAAAWN, stretch...oh is the article over?

No way is tmesis a word. That's gotta be a typo.


It's not only a word, it's a pretty common one in the UK (because Stephen Fry loves it, and has banged on about it for years).

Abso-bloody-lutely.
 
2013-01-06 08:50:16 AM  

miss diminutive: Are they still sore over losing their empire and being reduced to pawns in the geopolitical game?



Give it a few decades, my young American padawan, and you'll understand.
 
2013-01-06 08:51:23 AM  
"And it follows that what we also do to ourselves is to relentlessly equate America with Americans, and the US government with its electorate - conflations we wouldn't dream of making in the case of the German or Greek peoples."

I am glad to hear someone finally say this. It persists even after the W years. About half of the people from foreign countries that I meet assume I'm a racist, Christian cowboy. It is even more annoying now that Obama has won in a landslide TWICE.

I also in some ways feel like I have a relationship with my country that is similar to one with a sibling. I give America lots of crap for loving ignorance and bigotry and rampant consumerism, but I live here, I know the score. It infuriates me when people who have never set foot here presume to tell me about all of my flaws by association.

I actually really like Tim Minchin, but it's stuff like this that really annoys me. I've got the ridicule of these people under control Tim, you deal with your own.
 
2013-01-06 08:54:11 AM  
Oh, and that above post has NSFW audio. Sorry.
 
2013-01-06 08:54:48 AM  
Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so
 
2013-01-06 08:58:44 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so


You can drive anywhere in the lower 48 in three days, so they were close.
 
2013-01-06 09:03:13 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: especially when I let them know that we saved their asses back in the big one

Hahahahahahahaha...


I love the British for their role in WWII. They got hammered hard and repeatedly. They were dealt more punishment than we've ever felt in the U.S. and they refused to roll over. They fought like farking heroes from beginning to end.

I also love that they had our back all the way through the whole Iraq thing. Granted, I think we made a terrible mistake but they showed their support while we were at our worst. That's what they mean when they say "through thick and thin".
 
2013-01-06 09:04:09 AM  

miss diminutive: Are they still sore over losing their empire and being reduced to pawns in the geopolitical game?


Yet the City of London, with its dangerously extreme financial deregulation, has again become the financial capital of the world.
 
2013-01-06 09:04:21 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Once I learned of The Royal Bun Toss I lost what little respect I still had left for my British cousins, it also provided me with a vivid modern day reminder of why we took up arms to fight for human dignity and freedom. Link


Link

I raise you this.
 
2013-01-06 09:05:36 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Growing up my neighbors hosted exchange students. One thing that none of them realized was the sheer size of the USA. They assumed you could drive anywhere in a day or so


Mutual understanding: Hey, Americans, 100 years is not old; hey, Europeans, 100 miles is not far.
 
2013-01-06 09:09:45 AM  
"I'm an American."

"DON'T SHOOT!"
 
2013-01-06 09:11:30 AM  
I'm betting he rapes his thesaurus on a regular basis.
 
2013-01-06 09:16:17 AM  

Triumph: I'm mostly of English descent, and enjoyed my visits to London, but also always mindful that my ancestors fought like dogs to get away from those people.


david_gaithersburg: Once I learned of The Royal Bun Toss I lost what little respect I still had left for my British cousins, it also provided me with a vivid modern day reminder of why we took up arms to fight for human dignity and freedom.


Do people come up with this way of thinking themselves or is it fed to them in schools? USA and Britain have been friends and allies for 198 years. In the 19th century American trade was made possible by the British fleet's protection. Even the War of Independence had many supporters in Britain.
 
2013-01-06 09:17:30 AM  

simplicimus: Mutual understanding: Hey, Americans, 100 years is not old; hey, Europeans, 100 miles is not far.


It is when fuel is as expensive as over here, though.
 
2013-01-06 09:17:53 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I was in London in 2012 and the people there couldn't have been nicer -- especially when I let them know that we saved their asses back in the big one so how about that ice cold Budweiser NOW!


For extra obnoxious points when they tell you to pay, you yell "I already paid for this beer sir! It was called the Marshall Plan."
 
2013-01-06 09:20:45 AM  

orbister: "Bronies" - WTF, America? The richest, most powerful and most technologically advanced nation in the world and you have grown men proclaiming their affection for little girls' toys. How many seats over there do you need?


Mr. Hands started another trend from Washington State. It'll pass.
 
2013-01-06 09:22:49 AM  

Land Ark: Mr. Self, would you please GET TO THE BLOODY POINT.


m2.mattters.com

"GET ON WITH IT!"
 
2013-01-06 09:25:43 AM  
Remember this comes from the BBC which these days is nothing more than socialist propaganda. And only socialists here hate America. The rest of us love you.

/Not in a gay way
 
2013-01-06 09:26:16 AM  

Ilmarinen: simplicimus: Mutual understanding: Hey, Americans, 100 years is not old; hey, Europeans, 100 miles is not far.

It is when fuel is as expensive as over here, though.


Well, you drive those tiny cars, so it probably balances out compared to our land yachts.
 
2013-01-06 09:26:21 AM  

Bungles: miss diminutive: Are they still sore over losing their empire and being reduced to pawns in the geopolitical game?

Give it a few decades, my young American padawan, and you'll understand.


I'm Canadian....the Monopoly boot of the geopolitical chess-board. We always understand.
 
2013-01-06 09:29:03 AM  
My vocabulary, let me show you it with no point whatsoever.
 
2013-01-06 09:29:47 AM  

Ilmarinen: Triumph: I'm mostly of English descent, and enjoyed my visits to London, but also always mindful that my ancestors fought like dogs to get away from those people.

david_gaithersburg: Once I learned of The Royal Bun Toss I lost what little respect I still had left for my British cousins, it also provided me with a vivid modern day reminder of why we took up arms to fight for human dignity and freedom.

Do people come up with this way of thinking themselves or is it fed to them in schools? USA and Britain have been friends and allies for 198 years. In the 19th century American trade was made possible by the British fleet's protection. Even the War of Independence had many supporters in Britain.


.
What way of thinking? Of not wanting to be a part of a monarchy literally throwing bread crumbs to their subjects?
 
2013-01-06 09:32:16 AM  

Mentalpatient87: david_gaithersburg: Once I learned of The Royal Bun Toss I lost what little respect I still had left for my British cousins, it also provided me with a vivid modern day reminder of why we took up arms to fight for human dignity and freedom. Link

Link

I raise you this.


.
Huh? I'm very proud of our right to bear arms, even air powered pumpkin cannons. If your royal ruling family wants to get into a food fight, come at us bro!
 
2013-01-06 09:35:27 AM  
I haven't had my coffee yet but this dumb American was put off by the fancy language of the article.

British English almost seems pretenious sometimes. I mean seriously who says "a bewildering and Brobdingnagian phenomenon" and doesn't expect a punch in the face?

And what the eff is "aluminum" anyways?
 
2013-01-06 09:40:21 AM  
Lots of $25 words there... can't help but think the author uses them to make himself feel more authoritative.
 
2013-01-06 09:42:32 AM  
I assume the author was paid by the word.

indoxservices.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-06 09:43:03 AM  
You think that international relationship is complicated and ambivalent? Try living in Canada.
 
2013-01-06 09:47:37 AM  

Mael99: letrole: just tried to read it, and frankly couldn't be bothered

Couldn't read it with that freaky picture of the author staring at me from the middle of the page.


He has that "please don't punch me" look to him, doesn't he?
 
2013-01-06 09:51:40 AM  

miss diminutive: Bungles: miss diminutive: Are they still sore over losing their empire and being reduced to pawns in the geopolitical game?

Give it a few decades, my young American padawan, and you'll understand.

I'm Canadian....the Monopoly boot of the geopolitical chess-board. We always understand.


It seems to me that we Canadians are very much the middle ground in this issue. We have american and british pop culture, our political system is somewhere between the two as well, plus we have our own little subcultures that reflect other things going on in the world too.

Where you from miss diminutive? I'm in NB
 
2013-01-06 09:54:53 AM  
I loved Great Apes

Wonder if it was the same Will Self...
 
2013-01-06 09:55:10 AM  

Triumph: I'm mostly of English descent, and enjoyed my visits to London, but also always mindful that my ancestors fought like dogs to get away from those people.


No they didn't. They were British as well, but they didn't want to pay taxes.
 
2013-01-06 09:56:57 AM  

spawn73: Triumph: I'm mostly of English descent, and enjoyed my visits to London, but also always mindful that my ancestors fought like dogs to get away from those people.

No they didn't. They were British as well, but they didn't want to pay taxes.


Oh look, you miss the point of the Revolutionary War.

If you think it was a war over taxes...you might be wrong.
 
2013-01-06 09:58:08 AM  
 
2013-01-06 09:58:53 AM  
I found the article very twee.
 
2013-01-06 09:59:53 AM  

markfara: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I was in London in 2012 and the people there couldn't have been nicer . . . .

That's interesting. My own experience has been that Londoners are right up there with Philadelphia residents when it comes to rilludeness.


I grew up in the Philadelphia region. Now I have the displeasure of living in the Atlanta area. I too was in London in 2012. I absolutely loved London and its people - because they reminded me of Philly/New York/Boston. I felt very at home there and did not want to go back to Atlanta. Philadelphians are not rude, just brutally honest. In my travels, I've come to find that people don't want the honest truth, just some sugar coated, PC, BS version. This is especially true in the South. In Philly, I am just telling you like it is. In Atlanta, I am intimidating people.

/Bless your heart
 
2013-01-06 10:00:51 AM  

bratchaman: I haven't had my coffee yet but this dumb American was put off by the fancy language of the article.

British English almost seems pretenious sometimes. I mean seriously who says "a bewildering and Brobdingnagian phenomenon" and doesn't expect a punch in the face?

And what the eff is "aluminum" anyways?



I see you're unfamiliar with WIll Self. The pretentiousness is post-post-ironic.
 
2013-01-06 10:02:09 AM  

Mrtraveler01: spawn73: Triumph: I'm mostly of English descent, and enjoyed my visits to London, but also always mindful that my ancestors fought like dogs to get away from those people.

No they didn't. They were British as well, but they didn't want to pay taxes.

Oh look, you miss the point of the Revolutionary War.

If you think it was a war over taxes...you might be wrong.


Might be right. Check out Mercantilism and taxation without representation.
 
2013-01-06 10:03:23 AM  
Will Self is a dick, that's all you need to know.
 
2013-01-06 10:09:34 AM  

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I love the British for their role in WWII. They got hammered hard and repeatedly. They were dealt more punishment than we've ever felt in the U.S. and they refused to roll over. They fought like farking heroes from beginning to end.


They did, but it's nothing compared to what the Russians went through.
 
2013-01-06 10:20:35 AM  
 
2013-01-06 10:21:18 AM  

chuckufarlie: cloud_van_dame: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: I love the British for their role in WWII. They got hammered hard and repeatedly. They were dealt more punishment than we've ever felt in the U.S. and they refused to roll over. They fought like farking heroes from beginning to end.

They did, but it's nothing compared to what the Russians went through.

why does somebody always feel the need to bring up the Russians in any comment about WWII. We are all aware of the great contribution that the Russians made. What is your point?


Noble Savages argument I presume
 
2013-01-06 10:24:40 AM  
FOPPISH WANKERY !=PITHY OBSERVATIONAL HUMOR


/For the article's author
//and pretty much any Englishmen I've ever heard do the "British people are like this, but Americans are like THIS" routine
 
2013-01-06 10:29:20 AM  
Summary of the article: " America, I wish I could quit you!"
 
2013-01-06 10:36:10 AM  
Do shut up!
 
2013-01-06 10:37:41 AM  

ScudEast: BronyMedic: Do the British tell lies about the American Healthcare system like their for-profit cousins across the pond do about them?

Basically, yes. Here it is a common belief that if you get run over by a car in the USA the ambulance paramedics check your wallet for a health insurance card and if you don't have one they move you out of the middle of the road and leave you there to die.



I think you're confusing paramedics with hospitals.

Now that hospitals are essentially run by the insurance companies, the uninsured are shoved out the door as soon as they're stabilized (read: not within hours of death). Lose a limb? "Sorry, your card was denied. Oh well, you've got three spare limbs, you'll live."

I really wish that were an exaggeration, but that happened to someone in my town a few years ago when he lost his hand. He was insured, but he mentioned that it was a workplace accident, so the insurance was automatically denied, and they wouldn't start the surgery until his wife brought them a down payment.

Last I heard he is suing the hospital, but it's not going well, since legally he was only entitled to a bandage to stop the blood loss.
 
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