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2013-01-06 07:31:28 AM  
I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.
 
2013-01-06 08:53:10 AM  
Now that Booker has declared his intentions for the Senate, New Jersey Democrats don't really have a viable candidate to run against Christie. Certainly, there is no one to match his star power.

Christie's Sandy response all but locked up his reelection. He showed great affection for the state, which New Jerseyians love. His ability to put politics aside and work with Obama (and Springsteen) endeared him to the public, as well.

He should win easily, especially if he can avoid a major tussle with the NJEA.
 
2013-01-06 08:59:10 AM  
I have a man-crush on Christie. It's so refreshing to see a politician who has a spine and will stick by his convictions. OK, he comes across as a jerk sometimes; but at least he has a real personality and he gets the job done.
 
2013-01-06 09:07:09 AM  
Christie's a bit of a right-wing douche, but since I tend to use the 1990s-ish version of "right wing" by default I suppose he's centrist enough to be a decent choice by current standards, what with the entire GOP being a far-right outlier that thinks that Iran's council of clerics and the Mujahideen are pinko fairies and all.

//Still a douche, though.
 
2013-01-06 09:07:48 AM  

EvilEgg: On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.


Well, there's no doubt that much of Christie's post-Sandy approach is genuine, and that seeing so much carnage in his home state really shook him. On the other hand, there's no way that, in the back of his mind, he's not thinking about the fact that he's a Republican in an increasingly Democratic state and that he had (1) good timing in running in a year where Democrats were flustered and the GOP was energized and (2) he ran against one of the bigger scumbags of the last twenty-five years. Distancing himself from the national GOP is crucial and he's done a pretty good job of it lately.
 
2013-01-06 09:10:44 AM  

EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.


He's one of those rare politicians that actually says and does what he believes in. I may disagree with his politics but I do respect his sincerity he has about the well being of New Jersey.

JerseyTim: Now that Booker has declared his intentions for the Senate, New Jersey Democrats don't really have a viable candidate to run against Christie. Certainly, there is no one to match his star power.

Christie's Sandy response all but locked up his reelection. He showed great affection for the state, which New Jerseyians love. His ability to put politics aside and work with Obama (and Springsteen) endeared him to the public, as well.

He should win easily, especially if he can avoid a major tussle with the NJEA.


Sure seems that way.
 
2013-01-06 09:15:54 AM  
I'm a NJ resident in a union, so, no.
 
2013-01-06 09:24:14 AM  
Christie will win big because no good democrat will run against him. The pundits will claim he's the default 2016 nominee because he won a large victory in such a blue state. Then flash forward to June 2016, "Chris Christie, the one time GOP lock, is now forced out of the race by [Insert Teabagger here] and [Insert SuperPAC names here]."
 
2013-01-06 09:28:54 AM  

Buddha Belly: I have a man-crush on Christie. It's so refreshing to see a politician who has a spine and will stick by his convictions. OK, he comes across as a jerk sometimes; but at least he has a real personality and he gets the job done.


Me too. My crush started when he called the right wing loons crazy when they questione dhis appointment of a Muslim judge.
 
2013-01-06 09:33:03 AM  

ThisSideofSteinway: (1) good timing in running in a year where Democrats were flustered


The phrase you are looking for, in the New Jersey context, is "staggeringly, shamelessly, thunderously corrupt and incompetent (with the exception of Cory Booker)".

Christie? On one hand he was right to call out the congressional GOP for dragging their feet on Sandy aid...on the other hand, he needs to be told by Congress to fark off if he thinks he can pander to the Jersey Shore beach-house owners by promising them Uncle Sugar will get everything back the way it was before the storm. And it's tempting for any politician to get a whole mess of high-dollar property back on the tax rolls, even if it's in a spot where the next storm will clobber them again.

I will be impressed if he brings his temper to bear on a Republican from the shore who thinks he gets to rebuild his million-dollar beach McMansion on the taxpayer dime. Environmental groups have been saying it's a damn fool idea to re-commercialize the shore. Or is it okay to ignore them now?

And it is still New Jersey we're dealing with here. Four years of meeting the bare minimum for honesty and prudence...that's great, governor. Have yourself a calzone. It does not erase decades of epic sleaze, and if Christie and Booker move on up to Washington, the vultures will be ready to swoop in.
 
2013-01-06 09:34:43 AM  

Hillbilly Jim: Buddha Belly: I have a man-crush on Christie. It's so refreshing to see a politician who has a spine and will stick by his convictions. OK, he comes across as a jerk sometimes; but at least he has a real personality and he gets the job done.

Me too. My crush started when he called the right wing loons crazy when they questione dhis appointment of a Muslim judge.


This is how low the bar is for Christie, he can gain liberal support even though he shares every GOP platform issue but isn't a completely loon.
 
2013-01-06 09:49:02 AM  
I honestly think Christie is an evil genius, and I'm worried about the prospect of him making a presidential run in 2016 because I so much disagree with his politics.


/does anyone remember the jackassery with the additional bridges to New York that federal money had already started funding that he stopped half way through because "OMG RECESSION"?
 
MFK
2013-01-06 10:02:40 AM  

EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.


think about this:

You're on the fence because he wasn't an asshole ONCE and not because of any core principals, but only because he really actually needed something.

He's still a blowhard bully.
 
2013-01-06 10:05:46 AM  

RowdyRough: /does anyone remember the jackassery with the additional bridges to New York that federal money had already started funding that he stopped half way through because "OMG RECESSION"?


It was a transit tunnel. It was a little more complex than it was reported, because apparently, PATH was going to build one (the one Christie shut down) but Amtrak has a similar project in the works.

/really, they should build both
//The Port Authority announced twenty years ago that they will not build any more auto bridges or tunnels to Manhattan, only commuter transit projects.
///The island can't handle any more auto traffic
 
2013-01-06 10:09:13 AM  
On one hand, Christie is a Republican and comes across as a pushy blowhard. On the other hand, he showed how willing he is to put aside politics when necessary. The fact that the WNDers and Freepers call him a RINO only endears him to me even more.
 
2013-01-06 10:12:54 AM  

WTF Indeed: Hillbilly Jim: Buddha Belly: I have a man-crush on Christie. It's so refreshing to see a politician who has a spine and will stick by his convictions. OK, he comes across as a jerk sometimes; but at least he has a real personality and he gets the job done.

Me too. My crush started when he called the right wing loons crazy when they questione dhis appointment of a Muslim judge.

This is how low the bar is for Christie, he can gain liberal support even though he shares every GOP platform issue but isn't a completely loon.


Well, considering some of the big names in the GOP these last few years, it's getting harder to hate a guy who tells the loons and partisans to go fark themselves.
 
2013-01-06 10:14:17 AM  

coco ebert: I'm a NJ resident in a union, so, no.


Exactly. Christie is cut from the union crushing mold, right along with Walker. He doesn't understand the concept of negotiation, just "give me what I want right now or I will destroy you"
 
2013-01-06 10:19:56 AM  

LincolnLogolas: Well, considering some of the big names in the GOP these last few years, it's getting harder to hate a guy who tells the loons and partisans to go fark themselves.


Congrats, you are the end product of the Roger Ailes machine. You've been so inundated with conservative crazy over the years that when a conservative appears who, more than likely shares very few of your values, you love him because "at least he's not crazy like those other guys." This is the same tactic that talk radio hosts use to sound "sane and moderate" on their shows.
 
2013-01-06 10:21:33 AM  
Asking the NJEA rank and file to contribute 1% towards their benefits is soooooooo crushing and union busting.


let me kvetch even harder!
 
2013-01-06 10:22:38 AM  
Chris Christie isn't a complete lunatic. That's good.
But he yells at people while clutching ice cream cones. That's bad.
But he respected President Obama. That's good.
But he really hates public unions. That's bad.
But he breaks with his party when it makes sense. That's good...
 
2013-01-06 10:28:32 AM  
Tax cuts? He was talking about how we all need to pay a bit more in property taxes (a regressive tax thats already the highest in the nation) to help rebuild - so how can we afford a tax cut?

No doubt it will be a state income tax cut he was pushing for pre Sandy- a super progressive tax in NJ - which will barely effect middle class families but help the wealthy a ton.

So already let's pin sandy's clean up on NJ middle class and cut taxes for the rich.

He'll be back to good old Republican self in no time.
 
2013-01-06 10:37:54 AM  

WTF Indeed: Hillbilly Jim: Buddha Belly: I have a man-crush on Christie. It's so refreshing to see a politician who has a spine and will stick by his convictions. OK, he comes across as a jerk sometimes; but at least he has a real personality and he gets the job done.

Me too. My crush started when he called the right wing loons crazy when they questione dhis appointment of a Muslim judge.

This is how low the bar is for Christie, he can gain liberal support even though he shares every GOP platform issue but isn't a completely loon.


I think it's good for the country as a whole if politicians like Christie become the norm instead of the right wing retards. Issues can be argues and fought over, derp cannot be.
 
2013-01-06 10:41:08 AM  

JerseyTim: His ability to put politics aside and work with Obama (and Springsteen)

...

I'm pretty sure he'd put his pants aside and bend over for Springsteen.
 
2013-01-06 10:56:55 AM  

MFK: EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.

think about this:

You're on the fence because he wasn't an asshole ONCE and not because of any core principals, but only because he really actually needed something.

He's still a blowhard bully.


Yep, and now he's bullying the GOP, and together they are frollicking into a black hole of internal politics and lost elections. In short, Good Job Christie, don't stop saying things.
 
2013-01-06 11:06:16 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: JerseyTim: His ability to put politics aside and work with Obama (and Springsteen)...

I'm pretty sure he'd put his pants aside and bend over for Springsteen.


About 85% of this state would.
 
2013-01-06 11:06:28 AM  

EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.


And the fact that he put aside politics to work with Obama at all (regardless of why he did that) is the reason he'll probably face a primary challenge from a teabagger, why he might run against a teabagger-running-as-a-Democrat in the general, and why he'll have no chance whatsoever in the 2016 GOP presidential primaries.

See also Crist, Charlie.
 
2013-01-06 11:16:45 AM  

organizmx: Tax cuts? He was talking about how we all need to pay a bit more in property taxes (a regressive tax thats already the highest in the nation) to help rebuild - so how can we afford a tax cut?

No doubt it will be a state income tax cut he was pushing for pre Sandy- a super progressive tax in NJ - which will barely effect middle class families but help the wealthy a ton.

So already let's pin sandy's clean up on NJ middle class and cut taxes for the rich.

He'll be back to good old Republican self in no time.


So attracting wealthy residents is now a bad thing?
 
2013-01-06 11:35:47 AM  

EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.


Go with your gut and hate him. The fact that he still chooses to remain a republican is a sign.

/there are no longer any good republicans since Ike died. They're all batsh*t crazies now. Every single one.
 
2013-01-06 11:55:23 AM  

TV's Vinnie: EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.

Go with your gut and hate him. The fact that he still chooses to remain a republican is a sign.

/there are no longer any good republicans since Ike died. They're all batsh*t crazies now. Every single one.


Derp, derp,derp derp,do you need more derp to go with that?
 
2013-01-06 12:07:50 PM  

dantheman195: TV's Vinnie: EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.

Go with your gut and hate him. The fact that he still chooses to remain a republican is a sign.

/there are no longer any good republicans since Ike died. They're all batsh*t crazies now. Every single one.

Derp, derp,derp derp,do you need more derp to go with that?


LOL! I say that republicans are evil and you accuse me of derp.

You watch a lot of Fox News, don't you?
 
2013-01-06 12:37:48 PM  
It sounds like he's the kind of guy you smile when you meet and never say anything bad about him in public, but every deal stands on it's own. You can't afford to owe him, and you don't trust him to owe you.

That's the basis of a perfectly workable relationship.
 
2013-01-06 12:45:15 PM  
Conservatives sure hate him these days. They thought it was pretty cool when he was bad mouthing democrats, but they sure get mad when they are on the receiving end of "telling it like it is".
 
2013-01-06 12:50:41 PM  

WTF Indeed: LincolnLogolas: Well, considering some of the big names in the GOP these last few years, it's getting harder to hate a guy who tells the loons and partisans to go fark themselves.

Congrats, you are the end product of the Roger Ailes machine. You've been so inundated with conservative crazy over the years that when a conservative appears who, more than likely shares very few of your values, you love him because "at least he's not crazy like those other guys." This is the same tactic that talk radio hosts use to sound "sane and moderate" on their shows.


Nah. Never said I loved him, just said it's getting hard to hate him.
 
2013-01-06 12:52:00 PM  
I'm holding out until he comes around on marriage equality.   But the galoot has a charm.
 
MFK
2013-01-06 01:03:20 PM  

TV's Vinnie: dantheman195: TV's Vinnie: EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.

Go with your gut and hate him. The fact that he still chooses to remain a republican is a sign.

/there are no longer any good republicans since Ike died. They're all batsh*t crazies now. Every single one.

Derp, derp,derp derp,do you need more derp to go with that?

LOL! I say that republicans are evil and you accuse me of derp.

You watch a lot of Fox News, don't you?


well if there is one thing the Republicans are actually amazingly good at, it's projection.
 
2013-01-06 02:28:52 PM  
I'm a teacher, and I like him. I disagree with him on some things, but agree with him on others. He puts the state first. He'll have my vote.
 
2013-01-06 07:07:54 PM  

Jerseysteve22: I'm a teacher, and I like him. I disagree with him on some things, but agree with him on others. He puts the state first. He'll have my vote.


Don't let the NJEA know about your politics, you might end up with the fishies
 
2013-01-06 07:10:11 PM  

TV's Vinnie: dantheman195: TV's Vinnie: EvilEgg: I am torn on Christie. On one hand, he seems like a blowhard bully, yelling at reporters who ask him questions he doesn't like. On the other, he did seem to put aside politics after Sandy to work with Obama.

Go with your gut and hate him. The fact that he still chooses to remain a republican is a sign.

/there are no longer any good republicans since Ike died. They're all batsh*t crazies now. Every single one.

Derp, derp,derp derp,do you need more derp to go with that?

LOL! I say that republicans are evil and you accuse me of derp.

You watch a lot of Fox News, don't you?


Derp Fox News depry derpy derp deeeerrrpppp, people who I don't agree with are crazy derp derp derp derpy derp derp
 
2013-01-06 07:18:57 PM  

dantheman195: Derp Fox News depry derpy derp deeeerrrpppp, people who I don't agree with are crazy derp derp derp derpy derp derp


Um, okayyyyy....................

t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-06 10:37:13 PM  

Gulper Eel: ThisSideofSteinway: (1) good timing in running in a year where Democrats were flustered

The phrase you are looking for, in the New Jersey context, is "staggeringly, shamelessly, thunderously corrupt and incompetent (with the exception of Cory Booker)".

Christie? On one hand he was right to call out the congressional GOP for dragging their feet on Sandy aid...on the other hand, he needs to be told by Congress to fark off if he thinks he can pander to the Jersey Shore beach-house owners by promising them Uncle Sugar will get everything back the way it was before the storm. And it's tempting for any politician to get a whole mess of high-dollar property back on the tax rolls, even if it's in a spot where the next storm will clobber them again.

I will be impressed if he brings his temper to bear on a Republican from the shore who thinks he gets to rebuild his million-dollar beach McMansion on the taxpayer dime. Environmental groups have been saying it's a damn fool idea to re-commercialize the shore. Or is it okay to ignore them now?

And it is still New Jersey we're dealing with here. Four years of meeting the bare minimum for honesty and prudence...that's great, governor. Have yourself a calzone. It does not erase decades of epic sleaze, and if Christie and Booker move on up to Washington, the vultures will be ready to swoop in.


I'll like him, if he stands up and tells these people that FEMA and government assistance after a disaster is no supplement for insurance, and if they didn't have insurance (on what is most peoples second homes) then to go fark themselves and get over it.
 
2013-01-06 10:41:24 PM  
Christie won't win the nomination in 2016.

in the GOP process, its usually the previous cycle's runner up. It was only Romney in 2012 because Huckabee didn't run.

so, for 2016: Rick Santorum.

bwahahahaha.
 
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