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(KTAR Phoenix)   The top 10 jobs that attract psychopaths (note: if slideshows turn you into a psychopath don't waste your time)   (ktar.com) divider line 73
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2013-01-06 11:07:17 AM  
So, jobs that attract type A individuals who do it at least partly for the prestige? I never would have guessed.
 
2013-01-06 11:13:05 AM  
Where's "banker"?
 
2013-01-06 11:13:10 AM  
Policemen aren't civil servants? They consider themselves civil masters, maybe?
 
2013-01-06 11:13:19 AM  
Most psychlogy researchers think that autism/asperger's syndrom is completely different from psychopathy/antisocial personality disorder. Simon Baron-Cohen, for example, describes them as the lack of different kinds of empathy.

So typical computer geeks (like in your IT department) may score quite highly on tests for autism (possibly even as high as patients who have been diagnosed autistic), while coming out completely average on tests for psychopathy. They're "mostly harmless" as it said it the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

I do sometimes wonder if there can be people have both conditions - psychopathic and autistic - especially in the case of "dark side" computer hackers. e.g. Adrian Lamo --- officially Asperger's, but in some ways unlike typical people with autism, and more like Antisocial Personality Disorder -- e.g. the way he avoids the issues when being interviewed. Psychopaths are usually good at lying, talking their way out of things, and snowing an interviewer with words; people with autism are often crap at lying.)
 
2013-01-06 11:15:50 AM  
This list comes from "The Wisdom of Psychopaths" and was based on a self-report survey.
 
2013-01-06 11:19:36 AM  

cryinoutloud: TheMysteriousStranger: Though CEOs being psychopaths does have an intuitive appeal. But the simple reality is that it is far easier to do terrible things to people that you can't see (lay off a thousand people off, drop a bomb, etc) than it is to do terrible things to those up close and personal. CEOs tend to do terrible things to those who they can't see. If you really want to have a satisfying career as a psychopath, you might consider middle management. There you can personally make loads of people's lives a living hell and you can see the misery close up.

It has more to do with the way they lust for power, so they're more likely to be the bosses than someone lower on the ladder. They want to control everyone, they're fake, know how to manipulate and groom others to get what they want = they get themselves into positions of authority.

It doesn't have to be a CEO. It can also be your boss at the fast food joint, your civil servant boss.....but never fear, if there's a way for them to climb higher in the ranks, it is their #1 priority, and they know the best ways to make it happen.

Look for the person who brown-noses anyone above them, who seems to be just a little too popular around the office for no particular reason, who seems to be involved in a lot of intrigue and wheeling and dealing. They're just moving the players around to their best advantage. And most people, not knowing what they're dealing with, will fall for it.


Corporations are an organism that have evolved such that those at the top:
1) Evade any responsibility for anything that goes badly
2) Reap huge rewards and wield tremendous power

Executives that perform best in increasing the corporation's wealth and power will displace those that don't - competition/survival of the fittest ensures that the well-being of humanity is not a priority.

Private companies that still have a human being at the top, like Johnson Wax in Wisconsin, are considered to be much better places to work.
 
2013-01-06 11:19:55 AM  
Chef is the only one that surprises me. All this time I thought Gordon Ramsay was an aberration.
 
2013-01-06 11:20:27 AM  
Politicians strangely absent, unless it's assumed that they are the gods of all the psycho/sociopaths. And I assume such.
 
2013-01-06 11:20:50 AM  
Rozinante

Teacher is in the wrong bin.


No, that would be their fat wives who thrash them.
 
2013-01-06 11:21:36 AM  
HOA administrator?
 
2013-01-06 11:22:46 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: HOA administrator?


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You could jam that into the civil servant hole.
 
2013-01-06 11:24:14 AM  

simplicimus: Theeng: Oh goody, another set of things that confuse psychopathy with sociopathy.

Don't go there. I've already been schooled by Fark intellectuals that there is no difference.
/There is. One is delusional, the other not.


I've always thought of it as that the sociopath doesn't care about other people, the psychopath cares about the voices in his head.

Not the best definition, but easy to remember.
 
2013-01-06 11:24:56 AM  

Fissile: Quantum Apostrophe: HOA administrator?

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You could jam that into the civil servant hole.


Or you could jam their bodies in a hole.
 
2013-01-06 11:26:25 AM  

TheMysteriousStranger: If you really want to have a satisfying career as a psychopath, you might consider middle management. There you can personally make loads of people's lives a living hell and you can see the misery close up.


As someone who was laid off by a middle-manager a few years ago, I'm getting a kick out of that statement.

/ Although, IMHO, mine was more of a neurotic personality, not an actual psychopath
// .....can name some other mgmt. types from that job that fit the "psychopath" definition...
 
2013-01-06 11:28:52 AM  

pxlboy: Fissile: Quantum Apostrophe: HOA administrator?

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You could jam that into the civil servant hole.

Or you could jam their bodies in a hole.


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I like the cut of your jib.
 
2013-01-06 11:33:25 AM  
Seems more like a list written by someone who has issues with people of certain professsions than anything meaningful. By the way, what is with that list of attributes supposedly held by psychos? "...attributes such as superficial charm, egocentricity, persuasiveness, lack of empathy, independence, and focus." I can understand egocentricity and and lack of empathy as negative qualities. Superficial charm and persuasiveness, although not entirely negative, can have their bad sides. It really depends on what the owner does with those traits. But on what planet are independence and focus considered negatives?
 
2013-01-06 11:37:13 AM  
Are parents and spouse too general?

Definition via wiki:

Psychopathy is a personality disorder that has been variously characterized by shallow emotions (including reduced fear, a lack of empathy, and stress tolerance), cold-heartedness, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity, criminality, antisocial behavior, a lack of remorse, and a parasitic lifestyle.
 
2013-01-06 12:21:26 PM  
I think the "information Gatherers" might be a little bit confused here ... isn't a Surgeon a sub-division of a Doctor? =/
 
2013-01-06 01:09:45 PM  

Fissile: Chef is the only one that surprises me. All this time I thought Gordon Ramsay was an aberration.


Been in the business almost literally half my life at this point, I'm surprised it was so low on the list...
 
2013-01-06 02:19:45 PM  

Glancing Blow: Are parents and spouse too general?

Definition via wiki:

Psychopathy is a personality disorder that has been variously characterized by shallow emotions (including reduced fear, a lack of empathy, and stress tolerance), cold-heartedness, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity, criminality, antisocial behavior, a lack of remorse, and a parasitic lifestyle.


So, skaters?


/no hate for skaters, just read that list again with skaters in mind.
 
2013-01-06 02:38:33 PM  

GungFu: 1. Clowns.


Not rly. I know a few professionally-trained clowns (as in Barnum & Bailey Clown College or theater school), and these guys are the least threatening folks you will ever meet. They're great with kids, and one even works with them in a project to teach inner-city youth circus skills like clowning and acrobatics.

/clowns are unjustly maligned
//john gacy was sorta like hitler for clowns
///gave 'em a bad name
 
2013-01-06 03:50:35 PM  

Theeng: simplicimus: Theeng: Oh goody, another set of things that confuse psychopathy with sociopathy.

Don't go there. I've already been schooled by Fark intellectuals that there is no difference.
/There is. One is delusional, the other not.

I've always thought of it as that the sociopath doesn't care about other people, the psychopath cares about the voices in his head.

Not the best definition, but easy to remember.


No, not the best definition, seeing as how you have completely mistaken "psychopathy" for "psychosis". They are very much NOT the same thing.

Psychopathy: extreme inability to care about the rights and feelings of others
Psychosis: loss of contact with reality (hallucinations and delusions)
 
2013-01-07 05:36:47 PM  

Resident Muslim: Glancing Blow: Are parents and spouse too general?

Definition via wiki:

Psychopathy is a personality disorder that has been variously characterized by shallow emotions (including reduced fear, a lack of empathy, and stress tolerance), cold-heartedness, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, impulsivity, criminality, antisocial behavior, a lack of remorse, and a parasitic lifestyle.

So, skaters teenagers?

FTFM
 
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