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(The Sun)   Cute 22-year-old brunette: Cannabis turned me into a thieving heroin addict with OCD, panic attacks (w/pics)   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 209
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2013-01-06 02:18:31 AM  

Frederick: voodoomedic: Have a thumb-sized bag if green left. Smoke it, or cook with it? Too small to share if smoked, but not sure if cooking will stretch it
Recs??

I've never cooked...bud.  Too lazy and it's seems to conspicuous.  Is the result really worth while?  Save it for a "rainy" day, I say.


If it was legal and I could get it easier then it would be my preferred method.

Gives a total body stone and last longer (also healthier for you.)

Mind you it almost always leads do eating too much and being stuck on the couch.
 
2013-01-06 02:19:11 AM  
Well, it's already been stated here that she had an addictive personality.

""My problems started with alcohol. I moved on to cannabis, then cocaine, and eventually heroin. It's a typical progression for an addict."

She has an addictive personality that started with ALCOHOL.  Where are her cries to ban alcohol?
 
2013-01-06 02:23:15 AM  

Ima4nic8or: I have wondered for several years about a possible connection between pot use and anxiety disorders. For a couple of years I had a panic disorder and also frequently had high levels of anxiety not quite reaching the panic level. This was quite a few years after I had last smoked weed (a youthful indiscretion I engaged in maybe a few dozen times). Anyway, one day while trying to figure out when I first experienced an intense feeling of anxiety I remembered that it was actually during my first experience with weed. I was around 17 and was smoking some in a park with a few older friends and was hit with really intense anxiety and paranoia. The other guys were tooling around the parking lot on bicycles and skateboards and generally farking around but I was sitting there absolutely convinced that if I even tried to stand up and walk I would fall down and split my skull. That was not the only odd thought in my head that day but it is the one that stands out. I am not sure why I ever smoked it again after that but I did and never had the same negative response again.

Not saying the two are necessarily connected. Could just be a coincidence. It is an interesting one though.


You basically need to smoke indica exclusively, and definitely not hash. Sativa & hash are lower in CBD but not THC, so it farks with your mind more. High CBD = more calm & relaxed, what some call a body high. Most people probably won't care when a joint is being passed around, but if you're stressed and know you'll have a reaction, it pays to be careful.

/Mostly sativa here; prefer the mental trip over the mellow.
 
2013-01-06 02:31:07 AM  
Dumb people are dumb.
It's the power hungry people with an agenda that give them a voice.
 
2013-01-06 02:33:37 AM  

slayer199: She has an addictive personality that started with ALCOHOL.  Where are her cries to ban alcohol?


This is why I stopped drinking. To focus on my smoking. It provides for a much calmer, normal state of life.
 
2013-01-06 02:38:55 AM  

sxacho: When I was in college, strange town, no friends yet after probably too long a time, I was heckled on the street by a bum, so I said fark it and asked him where to get some pot. I was pretty much a stoner at my old school but transferred to this new place. And so began an adventure of a night where he led me through some seedy shiat which culminated in me hanging out in a filthy apartment while some guy with my money went off to "get some weed" for me. While there I was asked by some of this bum's friends to do the needle for them as their hands were too unsteady due to all the, I dunno, heroin I guess? I politely refused and sat in this room waiting for the return on my money while listening to a couple dudes quietly talk to God or whatever while some movie was on the tv. Every new and then one of them would ask me again to shoot them up while I sat there, scared out of my mind, saying no thanks.

But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?

/didn't really make a friend that night
//did get my money's worth of Mexican ditch weed though


Dude, that is scary. Hopefully you learned that if you ever find yourself in a desperate situation, ask a bartender or a busboy at a mexican joint if you need to score weed. Yikes.
 
2013-01-06 02:38:57 AM  
img.thesun.co.uk

Healthy now...Ocean Hannah

Really, because she's a solid 20 pounds over weight.

img.thesun.co.uk

They call her gaunt in this photo but she's more likely at her IBW. Chubby chasers do like their ditch pigs plus it scores them points with their readers.

img.thesun.co.uk

Probably in her best shape here except she needs to learn how to duck a left hook or stay away from her pimp when he's throwing them. Looks like she's methed up to me with formication skin lesions.
 
2013-01-06 02:49:48 AM  
HAHAHA pot MIGHT do that if you lack self control, but that's not the problem with grass, that a mental problem. I quit smoking grass because I found instead of getting stoned and having fun like I used to it made me really paranoid about shiat in my life. So for me it just became not fun anymore.
 
2013-01-06 02:53:57 AM  

sxacho: But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?


HOLD THE PHONE, people suck dick for pot? now if that's true that's the most retarded thing I've read today
 
2013-01-06 02:59:43 AM  
There was a time when I could gauge how high I was going to become by how intense the initial paranoid rush was.  Now I live in a legal-cannabis state and the initial rush doesn't have any great fear to attach itself to.  The paranoia side-effects of smoking have disappeared.
 
2013-01-06 03:01:12 AM  
Cannabis turned me into a Pink Floyd fan. Which led me to Frank Zappa. Then having sex with women with hairy armpits.

My God! It IS a gateway drug!
 
2013-01-06 03:04:41 AM  
It's been years since I tried but I don't understand people who have side effects of paranoia.

I'm more paranoid sober.
 
2013-01-06 03:08:06 AM  
Der Poopflinger: sxacho: But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?

HOLD THE PHONE, people suck dick for pot? now if that's true that's the most retarded thing I've read today


Probably a reference to Bob Saget's quote in the movie Half baked.
 

Cocaine Addict: Marijuana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for marijuana?
 
2013-01-06 03:09:52 AM  

FunkOut: I'd like to blame the internet for my short attention span but it was probably pre-existing and these are really good crackers and I wonder what the boiling point of neodymium is.


And now, half an hour of reading on the Periodic Table from wiki, and I should be in bed. Thanks!
 
2013-01-06 03:10:19 AM  

Ima4nic8or: I have wondered for several years about a possible connection between pot use and anxiety disorders. For a couple of years I had a panic disorder and also frequently had high levels of anxiety not quite reaching the panic level. This was quite a few years after I had last smoked weed (a youthful indiscretion I engaged in maybe a few dozen times). Anyway, one day while trying to figure out when I first experienced an intense feeling of anxiety I remembered that it was actually during my first experience with weed. I was around 17 and was smoking some in a park with a few older friends and was hit with really intense anxiety and paranoia. The other guys were tooling around the parking lot on bicycles and skateboards and generally farking around but I was sitting there absolutely convinced that if I even tried to stand up and walk I would fall down and split my skull. That was not the only odd thought in my head that day but it is the one that stands out. I am not sure why I ever smoked it again after that but I did and never had the same negative response again.

Not saying the two are necessarily connected. Could just be a coincidence. It is an interesting one though.


It actually helps with my anxiety (which started long before I started smoking). I did experience early paranoia somewhat like you, except that mine was all related to fear of being caught (so it had more to do with being a goody-two-shoes doing something illegal than the drug itself). Once it finally sank in that there were no magic weed police, I stopped having paranoia issues. YMMV; I am not chemically normal so not a good benchpost for humanity.
 
2013-01-06 03:16:27 AM  
"My problems started with alcohol. I moved on to cannabis, then cocaine, and eventually heroin. It's a typical progression for an addict."

t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-06 03:17:14 AM  
Nonsense like this is what happens when people don't have an understanding of basic probability/set theory. Yeah, I'm guessing that the majority of hard core drug users started out with alcohol, marijuana, etc. But that doesn't really tell us about the probability that doing the lighter stuff will lead to the heavier stuff. Stupid motherfarkers don't comprehend conditional probability.
 
2013-01-06 03:24:55 AM  
My love for Italian cooking caused me to meet some Italians and join the mob.

Ban tomato sauce, it's a gateway to becoming a gangster.
 
2013-01-06 03:28:07 AM  

w00ty: so, it's weeds fault... although the alcohol came first.


...right....


alcohol is responsible business. Weed will make your daughters have sex with black women and mexicans.
 
2013-01-06 03:28:46 AM  
Heh. Should have been "black men", but... hey. More weed all around.
 
2013-01-06 03:33:30 AM  
Smoking pot causes you to get straight a's and land a scholarship with Oxford, at least that's what I learned from the article.
 
2013-01-06 03:34:37 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Smoking pot causes you to get straight a's and land a scholarship with Oxford, at least that's what I learned from the article.


no, it causes HER to get straight A's and land a scholarship with Oxford, probably because her daddy had the right connections. Your sorry ass is out of luck.
 
2013-01-06 03:39:04 AM  

ialdabaoth: david_gaithersburg: Smoking pot causes you to get straight a's and land a scholarship with Oxford, at least that's what I learned from the article.

no, it causes HER to get straight A's and land a scholarship with Oxford, probably because her daddy had the right connections. Your sorry ass is out of luck.


.
In reality it caused me to realize that nobody in the business world gives a flying fark about my grades, or where I went to college. Now living the life of an Obamnaire.
 
2013-01-06 03:45:53 AM  
Let's see.... cannibis... or dumb biatch. Most likely here needs [obvious] tag.
 
2013-01-06 03:51:14 AM  

w00ty: so, it's weeds fault... although the alcohol came first.


I'll bet wheat came before that. And water before that. And milk/formula before that. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
 
2013-01-06 03:52:46 AM  

Solid Muldoon: Cannabis turned me into a Pink Floyd fan. Which led me to Frank Zappa. Then having sex with women with hairy armpits.

My God! It IS a gateway drug!


I was a Pink Floyd fan from age 12, a Zappa fan from age 20 and was into hairy armpits from age 19.

I first got stoned when I was 22.

I think we can blame Pink Floyd for the situation here, not the dope.
 
2013-01-06 04:01:22 AM  

karmaceutical: sxacho: When I was in college, strange town, no friends yet after probably too long a time, I was heckled on the street by a bum, so I said fark it and asked him where to get some pot. I was pretty much a stoner at my old school but transferred to this new place. And so began an adventure of a night where he led me through some seedy shiat which culminated in me hanging out in a filthy apartment while some guy with my money went off to "get some weed" for me. While there I was asked by some of this bum's friends to do the needle for them as their hands were too unsteady due to all the, I dunno, heroin I guess? I politely refused and sat in this room waiting for the return on my money while listening to a couple dudes quietly talk to God or whatever while some movie was on the tv. Every new and then one of them would ask me again to shoot them up while I sat there, scared out of my mind, saying no thanks.

But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?

/didn't really make a friend that night
//did get my money's worth of Mexican ditch weed though

Dude, that is scary. Hopefully you learned that if you ever find yourself in a desperate situation, ask a bartender or a busboy at a mexican joint if you need to score weed. Yikes.


Different times. Student times.

I'm done asking around. I've learned it's reliably a really bad idea.

Still wish I could get a little every now and again. When I have weed for a day, I usually don't stress for a week or so. It's good for my psyche. I'm much more creative, caring, focused or flexible as the moment demands, and experience has proven if leads to much better family dynamics. And I hear it's good for psoriasis. I think I need to move.

/results may not be typical
 
2013-01-06 04:01:47 AM  
Yeah.....Link
 
2013-01-06 04:05:23 AM  
xtupload.com

Next thing you know, this lady will be wearing a zoot suit, listening to jazz music and jumping off of 20 story buildings in her weed induced craze.
 
2013-01-06 04:06:53 AM  

foxyshadis: CujoQuarrel: I know one who doesn't and never did drink hardly at all

He's totally destroyed his life with pot. No other drugs just pot.

It's really really sad.

I believe it. Pot's not a panacea. It's just another escape that's fairly benign in moderation, like most. There's no escape on God's green earth that's benign when you do nothing else. Sad, hope he gets help or finds his bottom before the reaper does.


Are you trying to say pot will kill him?
 
2013-01-06 04:12:26 AM  
Goodfella: I never tire of that picture. That's a classic. Of course I never tire of the "moustache you a question" picture either, so... Take that as you will.
 
2013-01-06 04:33:02 AM  

MurphyMurphy: ftfa:
"My problems started with alcohol. I moved on to cannabis, then cocaine, and eventually heroin. It's a typical progression for an addict."

So, what happened here? Legal pot laws hopped into the magical time machine, went back to when she was 14 and put a joint in her already drunken mouth?

Take some farking responsibility for your life. If you are an addict, that's on you.  You farked up. Your parents farked up. Instead of living your life you sought out escapes from it.

Pot didn't ruin your life. Neither did heroin or cocaine or alcohol. YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE.
This is the first lesson people like this have to learn if they ever want to actually go straight.

/drama student?
//I'd say she sounds like the drama farking master to me.


This to the power of a brazillian.

All of it.
 
2013-01-06 04:33:49 AM  
Blaming your addiction on marijuana is like blaming your obesity on donuts. That being said, it's not cool to make light of addiction, and one oughtn't blame the victim.
 
2013-01-06 04:38:48 AM  
I used to work with a lady who, at the age of ~26, knew she was an addictive personality, and while I don't know the details, made it sound like she went off the rails for a few years; started with alcohol and then smoked a lot of pot in high school til 2-3 years before I met her. She claimed to have screwed up a good portion of her early adult years. I had no problem with her issues and respected them completely, but what got me was that she mentioned another employee (private university, different department, never met the person) - she mentioned this other person was dating a married man, and she was all kinds of judgemental about it.

I never got past that with her. She'd 'found God', 'gone on the wagon', was turning her life around with her baby and baby-daddy, taking classes, etc... but omg someone she barely knew had relationship issues, and that person was totally beneath her.

When I got booted from that job and she soon stopped calling me (AFTER I hooked her up with a pro-bono lawyer for her custody issues), frankly I didn't miss her. Damn pot-smoking 'addicted' hypocrites. I'm the first to admit I drink too much, but I never came close to going down her road.
 
2013-01-06 04:40:57 AM  

MurphyMurphy: ftfa:
"My problems started with alcohol. I moved on to cannabis, then cocaine, and eventually heroin. It's a typical progression for an addict."

So, what happened here? Legal pot laws hopped into the magical time machine, went back to when she was 14 and put a joint in her already drunken mouth?

Take some farking responsibility for your life. If you are an addict, that's on you.  You farked up. Your parents farked up. Instead of living your life you sought out escapes from it.

Pot didn't ruin your life. Neither did heroin or cocaine or alcohol. YOU RUINED YOUR LIFE.
This is the first lesson people like this have to learn if they ever want to actually go straight.

/drama student?
//I'd say she sounds like the drama farking master to me.


I think that's rather harsh, while I agree with the sentiment that no particular drug causes the inherent addiction. Addiction is a compulsion to seek BLANK. If you get rid of one BLANK (by making it illegal, for instance) the addictive mind will find another. However, it is damn insensitive to say things like those I bolded in your statement. Maybe what you mean to say is "your psychological makeup ruined your life." or "your genetics ruined your life." But it never as simple as that, either. Addiction can only come of a combination of several factors in a perfect storm: An intolerable situation (intolerable to the addict, not objectively), a means to escape (the drug), positive reinforcement of that cycle, and the underlying biology to make it all boil over. Some people just can't be addicts and others will become addicts at the drop of a hat. If you're lucky enough to find you can use and abuse substances without ruining your life, how about you enjoy your good fortune quietly instead of berating those that suffer due to drugs.
 
2013-01-06 04:49:34 AM  
I really wish even a few people would see middle ground on the drug debate. Drugs are not harmless by any means, not even pot. Pot can ruin your life as much as can heroin... or gambling, or whatever your vice is. On the flipside, making it illegal does nothing to make it less dangerous to those who'll become addicted and makes criminals out of the others (a much higher percentage) who seem able to use it recreationally WITHOUT getting addicted. Same with any substance, albeit to varying degrees. We really just need to start giving joints to all highschoolers, monitoring them to see who likes it just a little too much, and fast-tracking those kids into substance abuse programs. Kidding. But seriously, it will be a great day when a simple test exists to determine your FUTURE susceptibility to addiction.
 
2013-01-06 04:53:57 AM  
If pot were legal she probably wouldn't have known where to find coke or heroin.
 
2013-01-06 05:05:39 AM  
If you are going to cook cannabis, a thumb sized piece is worthless. Smoke it to yourself. Get a quarter to half pound of leaf and bud trim, preferably dried. Process until dust in a cuisinart, depending on the quantity, throw one or two pounds of butter into a pot of 2 gallons of boiling water, once the butter melts, turn down to a simmer. Add cannabis and simmer for 90 minutes. Strain through cheesecloth and strainer into a large bowl you can fit in your freezer. Once the bundle has cooled down just enough to squeeze, but still burns the crap out of your hands, squeeze it like it owes your mom money. Take the bowl of butter and water and put it into your freezer. The butter will trap everything you want, and the water will trap everything you don't want. Once it freezes, scrape the butter off of the ice and discard the ice. Voila, motherfarkers.

You're welcome.
 
2013-01-06 05:09:08 AM  

kazikian: Pot can ruin your life as much as can heroin


This one of the dumbest statements I hear on a regular basis.

A drug that is habit forming is much much different then one that creates physical dependency.

Opiates are a whoooole nother ball game from cannabis.

/Know from experience.
//Stick to the reefer. Heroin can drag you to the depths of severe physical dependency in days and you won't even realize it.
///You might miss weed for a week when you stop. Heroin you jones for, for the rest of your life.
 
2013-01-06 05:10:50 AM  
Story sounds completely bogus!
 
2013-01-06 05:11:24 AM  

Buffet: Story sounds completely bogus!


The Sun is the UK equivalent of the Weekly World News.

It's ALL bogus.
 
2013-01-06 05:15:23 AM  
It is super late, I am very drunk, but her name is Ocean........really bad parenting,what do you expect?
 
2013-01-06 05:35:52 AM  
Drama student. She learned well.
 
2013-01-06 05:52:12 AM  

kazikian: I think that's rather harsh, while I agree with the sentiment that no particular drug causes the inherent addiction. Addiction is a compulsion to seek BLANK. If you get rid of one BLANK (by making it illegal, for instance) the addictive mind will find another. However, it is damn insensitive to say things like those I bolded in your statement. Maybe what you mean to say is "your psychological makeup ruined your life." or "your genetics ruined your life." But it never as simple as that, either. Addiction can only come of a combination of several factors in a perfect storm: An intolerable situation (intolerable to the addict, not objectively), a means to escape (the drug), positive reinforcement of that cycle, and the underlying biology to make it all boil over. Some people just can't be addicts and others will become addicts at the drop of a hat. If you're lucky enough to find you can use and abuse substances without ruining your life, how about you enjoy your good fortune quietly instead of berating those that suffer due to drugs.


I'm not unsympathetic, it's just a cold hard truth.

We all have complex psychological makeups, we are all saddled with the genetics we are given. I'm not suggesting anything is as simple as anything. I do not deny that some are predisposed to problems others aren't. And let's not forget the people that are literally dragged into the world of addiction against their will... or those just too dumb to know better until it's too late.

But if we want to play the blame game, rule #1 is blame is always shared.

And while there is a litany of things you can blame for your problems the only thing anyone ever needs worry themselves with in life are the things they can change. Even if you weren't responsible for the first fix, if you aren't responsible for your disposition to addiction, if you aren't responsible for the world you were born into and the community/environment you grew up in...

...all the odds that are stacked against you, you might not be responsible for.
But you ARE responsible for your own decisions, no matter how hard it might be to make the right one
.

This is life. It's farking cruel and cold and complex and hard. But we have free will. We are more than the sum of our parts. And that is why at the end of the day the only thing we can blame for our shortcomings, our addictions, our lives... is ourselves. Because it's usually the only thing we have at least some measure of control over. And if we don't face that, we never really face addiction. And you can't fight something you aren't facing.

It's not an easy truth. It's a very very hard one. Many can't come to it, and for those we have AA. Where you learn that you have no power, no control, and that only in a higher power can you be set free. A comforting lie, but a lie all the same. They surrender one addiction to another.. blind faith and obedience. Possibly the strongest drug known to man.

Every time we give in to our weaknesses it becomes harder to fight back.
Every time we take comfort in blaming something other than ourselves, we take a little less responsibility next time we get our next fix.
"It's not me, it's the dark side of me that I can't control"
.. no, it's both.
And either you are going to win or you are going to give in to that dark side inside you. Who gets to live? Who gets control? The you that chooses your life and your decisions or the you that is a victim of it and just along for the ride?

Addicts need to know: Take responsibility and control of your own shiat, or you'll be irresponsible and controlled for all your days. Be it by a drug, or a pimp or a bottle or whatever... I'm not saying it's easy. Quite the opposite. It's because it's so hard that it's so imperative to fight the fight and make the right choice every day.
fark up? Damn. Going to have to get back up and try again... it's going to be harder this time. Going to have to fight back even harder. Stare that shiat in the eye. Every day. Every long long day.
 

Blame the shiat you can't do anything about? Good for you, problem solved I guess. Let's all feel sorry for each other and have a good cry on the way to our next fix.

Own the problem? You are the problem? That we can't solve, but we can work with it. We can fight it, every long long day filled with urges and doubts and fantasies about giving in and really really hard choices. It's a road filled with counseling, doctors, friends and family that look at you differently than each other.... the hard road. The real one.

You think I'm a lucky guy that never had any problems and I should count my blessings? That I can't understand their problems and I'm not being compassionate or sensitive? You really couldn't have it more backwards.

/rant off
 
2013-01-06 06:19:52 AM  
"For people with addictive personalities or who need to fill a void, legalising cannabis could be so dangerous. My problems started with alcohol."

QED.
 
2013-01-06 06:33:36 AM  
I just don't get it.
Drugs don't screw your life up. You screw your life up.
Did Bob Marley screw his life up ? no, he did a lot of good for people that most don't know about.
I have known a few H addicts over my time and those that were assholes that would sell their mother were assholes to start with.
Mary Jane has never led me or anyone I know to become a H addict. Only those that had nothing better to do with their life.
 
2013-01-06 06:36:48 AM  
You might end up like this unfortunate man if you smoke the reefer!
upload.wikimedia.org
/That's right. Smoking weed leads to being a black president.
 
2013-01-06 06:40:12 AM  

FunkOut: I'd like to blame the internet for my short attention span but it was probably pre-existing and these are really good crackers and I wonder what the boiling point of neodymium is.


Hey dude crackers boil at 9am eastern time or maybe 14.5 if you listen close.
 
2013-01-06 06:49:07 AM  

Rastas: FunkOut: I'd like to blame the internet for my short attention span but it was probably pre-existing and these are really good crackers and I wonder what the boiling point of neodymium is.

Hey dude crackers boil at 9am eastern time or maybe 14.5 if you listen close.If my Meths is correct

 
2013-01-06 06:53:31 AM  
So the evidence is right in front of your face and still you refuse to see it?

Sad.
 
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