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(The Sun)   Cute 22-year-old brunette: Cannabis turned me into a thieving heroin addict with OCD, panic attacks (w/pics)   (thesun.co.uk) divider line 209
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2013-01-06 12:38:10 AM
It's pathetic that this is how low the DEA and PDFA will go to keep Cannabis illegal.
 
2013-01-06 12:40:36 AM

HotWingAgenda: Point 1:  She was a lot cuter back when she was a stoner.  Now she looks like a dude.

Point 2:
the recovering addict, now 22, says: "For people with addictive personalities or who need to fill a void, legalising cannabis could be so dangerous.

"My problems started with alcohol...

Bwahahahahha


Lol. This.

I'm not a smoker, nor do I believe all the miracle curative properties that the Pot Squad attributes to it, nor do I find it difficult to believe when real studies show that pot can have negative effects. But nobody can realistically read this story and say that weed did this to her. Alcohol is at least as implicit -- in fact more so -- as it was the thing that first triggered her addictive personality traits. She became a strung-out druggie because she had an addictive personality and hung out with other losers who encouraged her to do harder and harder drugs, not because she smoked pot.

I certainly don't think it's good for you, but lets not pretend that it is any worse than other things we have legalized.
 
2013-01-06 12:41:56 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-06 12:43:22 AM

Stonerbloopers: FunkOut: I'd like to blame the internet for my short attention span but it was probably pre-existing and these are really good crackers and I wonder what the boiling point of neodymium is.

5565 °F

/What kind of crackers?


Breton Basil and Olive Oil. And it just occurred to me I don't know where my magnets are.
 
2013-01-06 12:45:54 AM
That's cute?!
 
2013-01-06 12:47:07 AM
For me it started with my mother's teets. They'd be the first thing I reached for and id fall asleep with them in my mouth. When they were away for even a few seconds id bawl my brains out and kick, fuss and shake. Damn that evil woman getting me addictified.
 
2013-01-06 12:48:40 AM

Just another Heartland Weirdass: For me it started with my mother's teets. They'd be the first thing I reached for and id fall asleep with them in my mouth. When they were away for even a few seconds id bawl my brains out and kick, fuss and shake. Damn that evil woman getting me addictified.


she hooked me the same way.
 
2013-01-06 12:50:13 AM
I have wondered for several years about a possible connection between pot use and anxiety disorders. For a couple of years I had a panic disorder and also frequently had high levels of anxiety not quite reaching the panic level. This was quite a few years after I had last smoked weed (a youthful indiscretion I engaged in maybe a few dozen times). Anyway, one day while trying to figure out when I first experienced an intense feeling of anxiety I remembered that it was actually during my first experience with weed. I was around 17 and was smoking some in a park with a few older friends and was hit with really intense anxiety and paranoia. The other guys were tooling around the parking lot on bicycles and skateboards and generally farking around but I was sitting there absolutely convinced that if I even tried to stand up and walk I would fall down and split my skull. That was not the only odd thought in my head that day but it is the one that stands out. I am not sure why I ever smoked it again after that but I did and never had the same negative response again.

Not saying the two are necessarily connected. Could just be a coincidence. It is an interesting one though.
 
2013-01-06 12:51:06 AM
so, it's weeds fault... although the alcohol came first.


...right....
 
2013-01-06 12:53:50 AM
Seems like her major problems began when she moved to Australia.

See? Everything down here can cause you harm. Stay away, pommie junkie whinging twatwaddles. We kill you!
 
2013-01-06 12:55:05 AM

give me doughnuts: Probably a high-maintenance AW from an early age. Got a Makiby Barbie instead of the Ballerina Barbie, had a hissy fit, and said ,"I'll show them!" Next week: smoking and drinking.

All else follows.


...Her farking  dad died and she had pre-existing issues with the guy, you moran. I mean, yes, she's blaming the wrong things here, but it's not like she woke up one day and decided it'd be fun to fark over her life. She got spectacularly unlucky both in personality type and family circumstance. Should she have started doing anything illegal? No. Are her problems because she's an AW who wrecked her life to fark people over? F**k no, and calling people with shiat luck AWs makes the problem worse.
 
2013-01-06 12:56:30 AM
So somebody with an addictive personality disorder encountered serious emotional trauma in their teens, turning to various outlets to fill some emotional void to which she became dependent on.

Something tells me that even if cocaine, heroin, marijuana and alcohol were not available, she would have turned to something else just as self-destructive.  Sex, gambling, theft, whatever.  That's the Achilles Heel of people with addictive personalities.  So obviously we need to ban it all.

Breaking news: some people can't handle their shiat and abuse stuff the rest of us can handle.  Sports and weather at 11.
 
2013-01-06 12:57:41 AM
For people with addictive personalities or who need to fill a void, legalising cannabis could be so dangerous.

Prohibition deters zero percent of those people.
 
2013-01-06 12:59:43 AM

PsiChick: give me doughnuts: Probably a high-maintenance AW from an early age. Got a Makiby Barbie instead of the Ballerina Barbie, had a hissy fit, and said ,"I'll show them!" Next week: smoking and drinking.

All else follows.

...Her farking  dad died and she had pre-existing issues with the guy, you moran. I mean, yes, she's blaming the wrong things here, but it's not like she woke up one day and decided it'd be fun to fark over her life. She got spectacularly unlucky both in personality type and family circumstance. Should she have started doing anything illegal? No. Are her problems because she's an AW who wrecked her life to fark people over? F**k no, and calling people with shiat luck AWs makes the problem worse.


werd. my problem is with that shiatty excuse for a paper, making a 'story' out of it.
 
2013-01-06 12:59:55 AM

hootkr: Does coke really cost 200 pounds a gram in Sydney? Da Fuq?


Sounds about right, but pot is cheap, so that's something.

/Grows like a weed.
 
2013-01-06 01:04:37 AM

grinding_journalist: This evening, I started with alcohol and moved on to cannabis and cocaine.

I have managed to do so without destroying my life.


You're just saying that because you're under the influence of illegal drugs. :)

It must be such a convenience to blame all of life's problems on a drug. It wasn't me, it was the pot!!

I can honestly say that most of the really bad things that happened in my life were alcohol-related but I was the one who chose to drink the alcohol

You can't turn into a heroin addict until you choose to take that first dose of heroin.
 
2013-01-06 01:07:29 AM
I'm going will bullshiat for 500.
 
2013-01-06 01:07:36 AM
Well, Jesus turned Ted Haggard into a gay meth head. We should not go soft on Jesus...oh wait...
 
2013-01-06 01:08:05 AM

Ima4nic8or: I have wondered for several years about a possible connection between pot use and anxiety disorders. For a couple of years I had a panic disorder and also frequently had high levels of anxiety not quite reaching the panic level. This was quite a few years after I had last smoked weed (a youthful indiscretion I engaged in maybe a few dozen times). Anyway, one day while trying to figure out when I first experienced an intense feeling of anxiety I remembered that it was actually during my first experience with weed. I was around 17 and was smoking some in a park with a few older friends and was hit with really intense anxiety and paranoia. The other guys were tooling around the parking lot on bicycles and skateboards and generally farking around but I was sitting there absolutely convinced that if I even tried to stand up and walk I would fall down and split my skull. That was not the only odd thought in my head that day but it is the one that stands out. I am not sure why I ever smoked it again after that but I did and never had the same negative response again.

Not saying the two are necessarily connected. Could just be a coincidence. It is an interesting one though.


Paranoia is one of the "negative" side effects of smoking weed. Think about it like this...

It was your first time, you had never dealt with the side effect before, and you were out in the open around others when you did it, all these things can increase your paranoia.

I have had the same level of paranoia when I have smoked far to much in a night. I tend to know my limits. Just like alcohol, if I drink to much I get sick. If I smoke to much I get dizzy, paranoid and want to sleep.Vicodine did the same thing to me when I first took it after a surgery, the vertigo made me think standing up would be deadly.

Know what you are putting in your body and what it is likely to do and it wouldn't seem that odd. Also, try smoking in a place where you are not in the open helps. Most people that do illegal things in the open tend to be paranoid about it.

/Most psyche disorders in teens show up around 16-24.
//Not saying you are crazy, just passing it on.
 
2013-01-06 01:09:36 AM

nburghmatt: PsiChick: give me doughnuts: Probably a high-maintenance AW from an early age. Got a Makiby Barbie instead of the Ballerina Barbie, had a hissy fit, and said ,"I'll show them!" Next week: smoking and drinking.

All else follows.

...Her farking  dad died and she had pre-existing issues with the guy, you moran. I mean, yes, she's blaming the wrong things here, but it's not like she woke up one day and decided it'd be fun to fark over her life. She got spectacularly unlucky both in personality type and family circumstance. Should she have started doing anything illegal? No. Are her problems because she's an AW who wrecked her life to fark people over? F**k no, and calling people with shiat luck AWs makes the problem worse.

werd. my problem is with that shiatty excuse for a paper, making a 'story' out of it.


Yup. They should've told her 'hey, go to counseling'.

/Farking 'journalists'...
 
2013-01-06 01:12:08 AM
Handle your shiat, Fabius, please...
 
2013-01-06 01:13:21 AM
fakeplus.com
 
2013-01-06 01:13:27 AM

FunkOut: Stonerbloopers: FunkOut: I'd like to blame the internet for my short attention span but it was probably pre-existing and these are really good crackers and I wonder what the boiling point of neodymium is.

5565 °F

/What kind of crackers?

Breton Basil and Olive Oil. And it just occurred to me I don't know where my magnets are.


That sounds delicious. Hopefully the magnets weren't in the cracker box.

/I need to show up in these threads more often.
 
2013-01-06 01:14:57 AM

Ima4nic8or: Not saying the two are necessarily connected. Could just be a coincidence. It is an interesting one though.


It's not coincidence. We can dicker over the rhetoric and whether we want to call pot a drug or not.. but facts are facts and it has a chemical effect on the brain. All our brains are measurably different with each of us owning our own unique balance that makes us who we are.

I've used my share and I've had situations where I've felt great anxiety. I saw plenty in friends when we were younger first trying it. If you've never seen anyone wig out on weed you probably haven't used it much. Paranoia is a real side-effect and while a thousand other elements in your life lead up to that feeling of anxiety, for you pot may have been enough to push you into 'freaking out'.

I'll admit I've wondered if my own use might eventually play into my mental stability one day... it wasn't until I got into my 30's and after some hard life events (lost my teens/20s feeling of invincibility) did I find pot could make me anxious beyond the point of comfort. I've since learned that some strains do that while others do not.

Some pot is for me, some isn't. Just as pot (period) is great for some, but I wouldn't recommend it to others. (if something makes you feel bad, stop doing it!)

None of this is reason enough that it should be illegal.

-I have a very good friend who absolutely can't handle caffeine. His nerves can't handle it... given he's a basket case to begin with but it's manageable. Caffeine throws him over the edge of manageable. Caffine shouldn't be illegal.

-I dated a chick that had a completely real and debilitating panic attack when I broke up with her. Love and dating shouldn't be illegal.
 
2013-01-06 01:15:12 AM

Ed Grubermann: HotWingAgenda: Point 1:  She was a lot cuter back when she was a stoner.  Now she looks like a dude.

Point 2:
the recovering addict, now 22, says: "For people with addictive personalities or who need to fill a void, legalising cannabis could be so dangerous.

"My problems started with alcohol...

Bwahahahahha

Yep. every single person I've ever met with a serious drug problem started with alcohol.


I know one who doesn't and never did drink hardly at all

He's totally destroyed his life with pot. No other drugs just pot.

It's really really sad.
 
2013-01-06 01:18:28 AM
When I was in college, strange town, no friends yet after probably too long a time, I was heckled on the street by a bum, so I said fark it and asked him where to get some pot. I was pretty much a stoner at my old school but transferred to this new place. And so began an adventure of a night where he led me through some seedy shiat which culminated in me hanging out in a filthy apartment while some guy with my money went off to "get some weed" for me. While there I was asked by some of this bum's friends to do the needle for them as their hands were too unsteady due to all the, I dunno, heroin I guess? I politely refused and sat in this room waiting for the return on my money while listening to a couple dudes quietly talk to God or whatever while some movie was on the tv. Every new and then one of them would ask me again to shoot them up while I sat there, scared out of my mind, saying no thanks.

But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?

/didn't really make a friend that night
//did get my money's worth of Mexican ditch weed though
 
2013-01-06 01:19:26 AM

MurphyMurphy: -I dated a chick that had a completely real and debilitating panic attack when I broke up with her. Love and dating shouldn't be illegal.


Maybe we can just make dating you illegal.

If you're causing panic attacks by breakin' up with people, we need to get that under control. I'm calling the DEA. This new Murphy2 stuff on the bar scene has got to be regulated.
 
2013-01-06 01:22:48 AM
"My problems started with alcohol. I moved on to cannabis, then cocaine, and eventually heroin. It's a typical progression for an addict. ... "Making cannabis legal holds a lot of risks for a lot of people.

A significant portion of the risks comes from cannabis being illegal, so those would disappear. Further, any increase in cannabis use likely occurs alongside a decrease in use of other illicit substances since access to cannabis would no longer carry risks equal to other substances and would no longer be sold by dealers of other substances. I think flocking to cannabis as a result of being legalized is away from other substances by and large, which is well worth it.
 
2013-01-06 01:23:30 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that heroin turned her into a thieving heroin addict.
 
2013-01-06 01:25:28 AM

sxacho: When I was in college, strange town, no friends yet after probably too long a time, I was heckled on the street by a bum, so I said fark it and asked him where to get some pot. I was pretty much a stoner at my old school but transferred to this new place. And so began an adventure of a night where he led me through some seedy shiat which culminated in me hanging out in a filthy apartment while some guy with my money went off to "get some weed" for me. While there I was asked by some of this bum's friends to do the needle for them as their hands were too unsteady due to all the, I dunno, heroin I guess? I politely refused and sat in this room waiting for the return on my money while listening to a couple dudes quietly talk to God or whatever while some movie was on the tv. Every new and then one of them would ask me again to shoot them up while I sat there, scared out of my mind, saying no thanks.

But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?

/didn't really make a friend that night
//did get my money's worth of Mexican ditch weed though


Yikes.  I've been in similar situations while waiting for dope.  And apparently I have a real "might be a cop/snitch" vibe about me which isnt helpful.

I'm old enough now that I've got stable hook ups.
 
2013-01-06 01:25:30 AM
That's nothing. She should see what the Fark politics tab did to my buddy. Breitbart, NRO, WND... the poor bastard. All it took was that first click.
 
2013-01-06 01:32:10 AM
She's whatcha call 'British cute'. WTF is the deal with her bottom lip? Oh! I see that has already been covered with this pic...

www.spikednation.com

/Never sucked d!ck for weed
 
2013-01-06 01:32:28 AM

Frederick: sxacho: When I was in college, strange town, no friends yet after probably too long a time, I was heckled on the street by a bum, so I said fark it and asked him where to get some pot. I was pretty much a stoner at my old school but transferred to this new place. And so began an adventure of a night where he led me through some seedy shiat which culminated in me hanging out in a filthy apartment while some guy with my money went off to "get some weed" for me. While there I was asked by some of this bum's friends to do the needle for them as their hands were too unsteady due to all the, I dunno, heroin I guess? I politely refused and sat in this room waiting for the return on my money while listening to a couple dudes quietly talk to God or whatever while some movie was on the tv. Every new and then one of them would ask me again to shoot them up while I sat there, scared out of my mind, saying no thanks.

But in the end, it all worked out. That was some crazy shiat though. Didn't get robbed (didn't have any more money), didn't suck dick for pot, and didn't accept any offers of whatever they were injecting into themselves. Plus I made a friend. Here's to you Charlie the crazy bum. Isn't that what it's all about?

/didn't really make a friend that night
//did get my money's worth of Mexican ditch weed though

Yikes.  I've been in similar situations while waiting for dope.  And apparently I have a real "might be a cop/snitch" vibe about me which isnt helpful.

I'm old enough now that I've got stable hook ups.


I wish I had a hookup. But I'm married with kids and a respectable profession now. So now I just drink too much. I'm not going looking anymore. Although I do have more amusing stories of my dumber years. I'm lucky I'm still alive.
 
2013-01-06 01:34:47 AM
I blame acid.

/aliens made me do it
//repeatedly
 
2013-01-06 01:37:42 AM

doglover: Maybe we can just make dating you illegal.


Judging by the complete lack of action I've been getting lately, I'm starting to think they have made dating me illegal.
:-/
 
2013-01-06 01:42:38 AM
Have a thumb-sized bag if green left. Smoke it, or cook with it? Too small to share if smoked, but not sure if cooking will stretch it
Recs??
 
2013-01-06 01:42:42 AM
Oh yeah? Well it turned me into a newt!
 
2013-01-06 01:44:30 AM

voodoomedic: Have a thumb-sized bag if green left. Smoke it, or cook with it? Too small to share if smoked, but not sure if cooking will stretch it
Recs??


Gravity bong hits.
 
2013-01-06 01:49:31 AM
Never take nothin' your spirit can't kill

  -The Pusher; steppenwolf
 
2013-01-06 01:50:05 AM

Robert1966: I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that heroin turned her into a thieving heroin addict.


The enabling mother who allowed her coke-addled dropout daughter to "find herself" thousands of miles away from home didn't help either.
 
2013-01-06 01:52:05 AM
Personally, I thought that article was a waste of time. Okay, so you're an over-privileged, irresponsible brat who got hooked on drugs. Cool story bro, and welcome to adulthood - pot didn't get you addicted to heroin, YOU DID.

However, on the other hand, I believe that this is VERY educational:

The Nature of Things: Examining the link between cannabis and schizophrenia (watch the video if you have time).

img407.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-06 01:52:38 AM

panfried: [bumslogic.files.wordpress.com image 337x450]


I'd let her share my bong (and damn that's an old teen.)
 
2013-01-06 01:57:14 AM
If you folks could apply this same thought process to gun control, it'd save a lot of silly arguments.
 
2013-01-06 02:01:41 AM
My dad's wife swears that the source of all his son's issues is the fact that he uses pot... when the real issue is that he's an irresponsible asshole...

/She's awesome most of the time...
 
2013-01-06 02:07:30 AM

Apos: Two things:

1. The Sun link + "cute blonde/brunette/redhead" headline = DO NOT CLICK

2. I call BS on this tale. This is the exact opposite of what cannabis does.


Nearly all of these people just take whatever's handed to them at a party. Beer, vodka, weed, yayo, smack, it's all good, pass it over, brutha. She probably got most of her hookups with her body. Whatever, I'm not really down on that life; it's fascinating, it was probably awesome when it didn't suck horribly, and she'll have the best stories when she stops being a sanctimonious biatch about her old life.

Also, the only reason anyone anywhere takes heroin is because they want to be dead but they're too pussy to die. No one takes heroin to have a good time, and no one takes it as a logical progression from any gateway. It's the end-stage drug of a slow suicide. Alcohol can be that, but heroin always is.
 
2013-01-06 02:08:25 AM
Obviously this is fake, as it's the Sun, but the first problem leading to her drug abuse is the fact that her name is Ocean. In fact i'd say thats the main problem.
 
2013-01-06 02:11:42 AM
ochmonek.files.wordpress.com

Man is that the reefer man?"
"that's the reefer man"
"I belive he's losing his mind"
"I think he's lost his mind!"

Cab Calloway - Reefer Man
 
2013-01-06 02:12:53 AM

voodoomedic: Have a thumb-sized bag if green left. Smoke it, or cook with it? Too small to share if smoked, but not sure if cooking will stretch it
Recs??


I've never cooked...bud.  Too lazy and it's seems to conspicuous.  Is the result really worth while?  Save it for a "rainy" day, I say.
 
2013-01-06 02:13:00 AM

CujoQuarrel: I know one who doesn't and never did drink hardly at all

He's totally destroyed his life with pot. No other drugs just pot.

It's really really sad.


I believe it. Pot's not a panacea. It's just another escape that's fairly benign in moderation, like most. There's no escape on God's green earth that's benign when you do nothing else. Sad, hope he gets help or finds his bottom before the reaper does.
 
2013-01-06 02:15:14 AM
From the comments:

"Get real. started cannabis at 14, continued getting straight a's. got a scholarship to oxford. fell in with wrong crowd and became a little drug addict. totally cannabis's fault. thank you for a hilarious article, needed a joke to make my day."
 
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