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12457 clicks; posted to Main » on 06 Jan 2013 at 3:04 AM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-01-06 03:41:14 AM  
3 votes:

crabsno termites: Why is it any concern of the government if anyone wants to end their life?


Because someone who thinks that there's no one in the world who can solve his emotional problems is not the same as someone who's wanting to die with dignity and end the pain from a terminal disease from which there is no hope of a quality life or recovery.

One is a mental illness. The other is basic dignity.
2013-01-06 03:39:29 AM  
3 votes:
Why is it any concern of the government if anyone wants to end their life?

/Jack Kevorkian - right message, wrong messenger (Ross Perot, as well).
2013-01-06 04:13:10 AM  
2 votes:
Happy Hours:
It's not quite as simple as that though.

What if one actually suffers from mental illness? (as opposed to most Farkers who claim they enjoy every minute of it).

I can't say there's no cure or even any treatment that may help, but the same could be said of any physical disease.

Should the mentally ill not be allowed to die with dignity?  Who gets to make that call? What criteria do they apply?

Okay, you're terminally ill. The doctors all agree you won't live more than 6 months and even though you will be in some great pain we're gonna have to make you ride this one out.

Oh, hi, suicidal guy? You say you can never sleep and you have tried every medication ever known to man and you still hate life? Oh, come now. You're in great health. Maybe we should lock you up so you can live another 50 years - in prison, just so you don't kill yourself.


Indeed.  People without crippling depression don't realize how much mental illness can just hurt.  There's not really anywhere you can point to, but the misery is absolute.
A very good article about Borderline Personality Disorder can be found at www.borderlinesworld.com
2013-01-06 12:59:01 PM  
1 vote:

crabsno termites: Why is it any concern of the government if anyone wants to end their life?

/Jack Kevorkian - right message, wrong messenger (Ross Perot, as well).


Because everyone is State Property?
2013-01-06 08:34:25 AM  
1 vote:
i.qkme.me

/Seriously? Nobody else got to it before me?
2013-01-06 08:22:50 AM  
1 vote:

BronyMedic: EVERYBODY PANIC: So when a politician gets a law passed, what was just fine yesterday is now wrong today? How can an adult really think this way? Legality and rightness are too often mutually exclusive. You creep me out with your state-is-always-right mindset. Dude, learn to think for yourself. Open your eyes. And you actually believe that "society" has a will? This clearly IS a mental illness situation here. But the illness is not with the guy who the farking cop shot, it's with your blind obedience to the sytem.

As Thoreau said, no man is an island. You do not have the freedom to do whatever the fark you want to do whenever you want as a member of a society of fellow human beings. Personal freedoms have to be balanced, while being maintained to the utmost possible, with the needs of that society as a whole as a consideration as well. That's the price you pay for being a member of a nation, and for associating with fellow human beings.

Don't like it? Go Galt. Or Vacation in...


Want to make a point and have people listen? Drop the Somalia bs.
2013-01-06 07:06:04 AM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: Is there some good reason people actually live in Arizona? Or is it just that they're trapped and somehow can't find a way to escape?


People who can escape, do. The rest remain trapped forever in Los Angeles. Hope you make it out someday, buddy.
2013-01-06 06:58:08 AM  
1 vote:

BronyMedic: Fark_Guy_Rob: But what if *I* don't *want* to be treated?

In no country in the world today do you have the inalienable right to harm or kill yourself or others. But thanks to Saint Ronny, you can join a select club!

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Mental illness is one issue. We got millions of head cases and millions of guns but few mass shootings.
Suicide is another issue. There are many good ways to off yourself and people don't give two shiats about the law once that decision is made. But they also don't make it a group affair.

Neither issue seems to create rampage killers, altho they are often cited symptoms.
I suspect the real problem is the thought that one is entitled to "go out in a blaze of glory", which is a belief often found in popular media.
Take an unstable person who's suicidal, beat the thought into their head with the drum of a constant news cycle that can't shut up about these events, and they get to thinking that suicide by cop is a normal thing.

Which leaves us where we are now, where a large percentage of people shot by cops turn out to be mentally ill.
2013-01-06 04:36:49 AM  
1 vote:

jigger: Surprise! You're dead!


Ahh sweet nostalgia. I'm going to have to put on Angel Dust later.

/ different album, I know, but it's better
2013-01-06 04:25:04 AM  
1 vote:

Fark_Guy_Rob: We'd need to start by making suicide legal.

But that won't happen for all sorts of reasons (political/religious).


It already is. It's only illegal if you fail.

As said above, we need better mental health care for the despondent.

We need access to dignified euthanasia, but again smart people can already get it done but making it legal, a la Dignitas, would be better.

I've given hospice care to terminal cancer patients and the end is not pretty. The option to go out before the body finishes eating itself from the inside is preferable to many. .
2013-01-06 04:13:28 AM  
1 vote:
"The attempt wasn't successful, and at some point the man was shot by police."

I guess the police wanted to get back to their lunch break?
2013-01-06 03:59:48 AM  
1 vote:

BronyMedic: crabsno termites: Why is it any concern of the government if anyone wants to end their life?

Because someone who thinks that there's no one in the world who can solve his emotional problems is not the same as someone who's wanting to die with dignity and end the pain from a terminal disease from which there is no hope of a quality life or recovery.

One is a mental illness. The other is basic dignity.


It's not quite as simple as that though.

What if one actually suffers from mental illness? (as opposed to most Farkers who claim they enjoy every minute of it).

I can't say there's no cure or even any treatment that may help, but the same could be said of any physical disease.

Should the mentally ill not be allowed to die with dignity?  Who gets to make that call? What criteria do they apply?

Okay, you're terminally ill. The doctors all agree you won't live more than 6 months and even though you will be in some great pain we're gonna have to make you ride this one out.

Oh, hi, suicidal guy? You say you can never sleep and you have tried every medication ever known to man and you still hate life? Oh, come now. You're in great health. Maybe we should lock you up so you can live another 50 years - in prison, just so you don't kill yourself.
2013-01-06 03:14:54 AM  
1 vote:
The Surprise Police, they live inside of my head. The Surprise Police, they'll shoot a guy dead.
 
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