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(Computerworld)   Microsoft Internet Explorer actually gained usage share in 2012. Wait, that can't be right. Are we reading the chart upside-down again?   (computerworld.com) divider line 76
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2013-01-05 04:55:44 PM
I'm assuming their aggressive marketing last year suckered in some new users. It will fall off again.
 
2013-01-05 06:20:55 PM
Chrome and Firefox really aren't any better than ie10.
 
2013-01-05 06:33:32 PM
www.explosm.net
 
2013-01-05 06:40:10 PM

EvilEgg: Chrome and Firefox really aren't any better than ie10.


LOL
 
2013-01-05 07:37:39 PM
why would you purposely download Microsoft Internet Explorer to a mac, when Safari suffices??
just a thought
 
2013-01-05 07:40:55 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: Microsoft Internet Explorer to a mac


I've fired it up inside of Wine for the sole purpose of tracking down a site bug that only impacted IE. Usually, I don't care if site bugs impact IE, because screw you, IE users. I'm not putting extra effort into making sure a site works in your crap browser.

When I'm at work, I'll make sure it works in IE. If it's my personal project, I don't give a damn.
 
2013-01-05 07:43:30 PM
I read recently that IE doesn't track you as severely as chrome does, which is something that might be setting them apart a bit.

That's about the only reason I can think of.
 
2013-01-05 07:52:10 PM
Viva Internet Exploder!
 
2013-01-05 07:53:09 PM

HMS_Blinkin: I read recently that IE doesn't track you as severely as chrome does, which is something that might be setting them apart a bit.

That's about the only reason I can think of.


are THAT many people watching child porn on their laptops
 
2013-01-05 07:55:40 PM

EvilEgg: Chrome and Firefox really aren't any better than ie10.


I habitually use Firefox, then Chrome second when I want two different browsers up. IE10 is just as snappy I've found for when I have to use it for work. I think they're all nearly on par now. It comes down to rooting for you favorite team. I'm just glad I don't have to automatically set up elderly relatives with Firefox anymore.
 
2013-01-05 08:00:06 PM
The biggest reason I still use Chrome are inertia and that it auto updates. Oh, and I lounge that my goggle account keeps my history, auto fill, etc. it is a beast, though, on the system resources.

Anyway, IE is quite fine these days, even if I prefer my Chrome.

Certainly way better than Safari our Opera.
 
2013-01-05 08:03:13 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: are THAT many people watching child porn on their laptops


Because if you're not a kiddy diddler, you have nothing to hide.
 
2013-01-05 08:03:42 PM
It doesn't suck so bad the non techie people are pushed to replace it. They buy a new Windows box, use it, and don't mind it enough to nag me at Thanksgiving to go get the Chrome.
 
2013-01-05 08:07:18 PM
It's way better than the bloatware memory hog that is Firefox.
 
2013-01-05 08:13:38 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: Jon iz teh kewl: are THAT many people watching child porn on their laptops

Because if you're not a kiddy diddler, you have nothing to hide.


basically.. i like how google remembers where i went. who honestly cares that i like creampie videos i mean who cares...
 
2013-01-05 08:13:49 PM
There aren't really any bad browsers anymore. IE 10 is decent. I use IE, Firefox, Chromium, and Opera.

/why stick with just one?
 
2013-01-05 08:14:55 PM
Can you get Adblock for IE 10?

No?

Carry on then.
 
2013-01-05 08:15:38 PM

enforcerpsu: It's way better than the bloatware memory hog that is Firefox.


Pale Moon says "Hi!"...
 
2013-01-05 08:20:26 PM
 
2013-01-05 08:29:47 PM

namatad: EvilEgg: Chrome and Firefox really aren't any better than ie10.

LOL


ooh, a fanboy!

They're not you know. Infact ie10 is definetly better than Firefox.
 
2013-01-05 08:31:13 PM
Updates every time you install W7or 8
 
2013-01-05 08:35:49 PM

namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers


Bullshiat
/Do you want to make Chrome your default browser
 
2013-01-05 08:39:23 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Chrome is miles better than IE.

Mostly because IE doesn't run on Linux.
 
2013-01-05 08:43:25 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: namatad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

Bullshiat
/Do you want to make Chrome your default browser


Chrome installs and sets itself as default browser along with all sorts of other crap. The fact that IE is still over 50% with Chrome trying to install itself and set itself as default browser with every install or update of Adobe Reader or Flash is kind of amazing.
 
2013-01-05 08:45:48 PM
"It's just like Firefox except it only works on one platform, most of the extensions for it are terrible, and there's no sync function. What's not to love?"
 
2013-01-05 09:18:39 PM
Firefox, Chrome, and Opera have all gone massively downhill over the last couple of years, although not steadily and not without occasional improvements. IE got slightly better. IE isn't good, but it's consistent now, and when I don't want to fark with getting a browser to work well, I often just use IE, because to hell with it.

Firefox was really good, and then they came out with that update that shiat the bed completely. Chrome keeps getting fancier and fancier while getting less and less responsive. If I hit Escape to make the browser stop loading and rendering a page, it better farking stop NOW. When I tell it to open a new tab, I want it to make that the highest priority. Chrome frequently ignores my instructions, sometimes for a few seconds and sometimes altogether until it finishes whatever it was doing. It's trying too hard to be cute and fresh and not trying hard enough to be a farking internet browser.

Opera used to be hundreds of miles ahead -- for simply browsing the internet. I would never try to have twelve tabs open under Chrome. With Firefox, I might do as many as twenty at once. With Opera, it doesn't care -- it'll do fifty or a hundred tabs without even bogging the machine. If I tell it to do something, it does it right away. Brilliant. BUT only if I turn off JS and Flash and so on. And a crapload of awesome Opera features (like its customizability and memory management) have gotten worse and worse as it's chased Chromesque fanciness. MEH.

So basically I don't update any of them anymore. IE seems to get slightly better as time goes on, and the others seem to mostly gradually get crappier. I don't care if the browser is a good TV, a good game machine, a good radio, or whatever else if it isn't a fast, responsive internet browser. First things first.

I still use Opera for 90% of the internet, and then I mostly use IE for Facebook and Netflix. I use Chrome and FF at work, but . . . I don't know if I'd bother installing them on a new machine.
 
2013-01-05 09:22:27 PM
As a developer, IE9/IE10 are way better at handling newer tech and adhering to web standards. This overall makes developing web applications easier since there is less per-browser testing and verification.

As a user, IE9/IE10 still sucks balls.
 
2013-01-05 09:28:54 PM
It's because Microsoft actually made being standards compliant a priority. It doesn't mean that they are there - but in dropping all that "lets make it so sites actually only work with IE" to "lets try to make a fast browser that uses standards correctly like people kept telling us to" they actually ended up with a browser where it wasn't worth the effort, unless you had some deep philosophical objection to running a Microsoft Browser on a Microsoft operating system, to switch.

The stats suggest that the majority of people switching to Chrome these days are coming across from Firefox. Firefox's strategy of being almost fully funded by the competitor that's eating it's market share is certainly a novel one.

d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net
 
2013-01-05 09:30:59 PM

Slackfumasta: Can you get Adblock for IE 10?

No?

Carry on then.


So much THIS. Also, this thread and article is useless without a market share graph:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-05 09:54:41 PM
What IS it with Chrome and its memory usage? Let it run, open a couple tabs and then check the resources it uses...holy crap...Its got like 10-15 threads eating up close to 10 MB each and a couple pulling down 150MB each. What in the world is going on in the background?
 
2013-01-05 09:56:38 PM

1. Put snakes on plane: EvilEgg: Chrome and Firefox really aren't any better than ie10.

I habitually use Firefox, then Chrome second when I want two different browsers up. IE10 is just as snappy I've found for when I have to use it for work. I think they're all nearly on par now. It comes down to rooting for you favorite team. I'm just glad I don't have to automatically set up elderly relatives with Firefox anymore.


Firefox is pure shiat on Windows and Mac.  Unstable, the constant updating is bullshiat, and plugins regularly take it out. IE10 on Windows is one of the best browsers on that platform.  Chrome is my default browser on Windows and Mac.  And Safari holds up really well on the Mac.

/can we finally get bury the IE6 bullshiat now?
 
2013-01-05 10:09:48 PM

The6502Man: What IS it with Chrome and its memory usage? Let it run, open a couple tabs and then check the resources it uses...holy crap...Its got like 10-15 threads eating up close to 10 MB each and a couple pulling down 150MB each. What in the world is going on in the background?


Could be the stuff sending data back to Il Goog.

/just guessing
//BUT IT'S WEBKIT U GUISE! OPEN STANDARDS!
 
2013-01-05 10:40:50 PM

The6502Man: What IS it with Chrome and its memory usage? Let it run, open a couple tabs and then check the resources it uses...holy crap...Its got like 10-15 threads eating up close to 10 MB each and a couple pulling down 150MB each. What in the world is going on in the background?


Chrome runs a thread for every tab AND extension you have installed.
 
2013-01-05 10:48:47 PM
IE: the number 1 browser of the world to download other browsers.
 
2013-01-05 10:59:00 PM
I use FF because of AdBlock, although there are annoyances. (Like the new nag-bar Fark's throwing up now for those who use AdBlock.) Safari is fine, I just never use it unless I need a second browser. I can't stand Chrome's UI for some reason, and I've noticed the memory hogging other people have spoken about on the computers at work. IE? Yeah, it may be better than it was, but old habits die hard.
 
2013-01-05 11:12:11 PM
Not being arrogant here- in fact, I fully admit this isn't my area and I'm honestly asking a question: is it possible that all the recent buys of tablet pc's for the holidays preloaded with a new Microsoft operating system near the end of the year may have artificially inflated 2012 numbers near year end causing a slight uptick in market share as people with a new computer interface method and a new operating system were hesitant to upgrade their browser right away in fear that competitors hadn't released a browser fully capable of exploiting the abilities of their new toy yet?
 
2013-01-05 11:15:20 PM

Paper-Pusher: Not being arrogant here- in fact, I fully admit this isn't my area and I'm honestly asking a question: is it possible that all the recent buys of tablet pc's for the holidays preloaded with a new Microsoft operating system near the end of the year may have artificially inflated 2012 numbers near year end causing a slight uptick in market share as people with a new computer interface method and a new operating system were hesitant to upgrade their browser right away in fear that competitors hadn't released a browser fully capable of exploiting the abilities of their new toy yet?


FTA: On mobile, IE9 accounted for just 1% of all usage last month, with IE10 adding a minuscule 0.06%, both numbers reflecting the very minor impact Microsoft's made so far on the smartphone and tablet markets.

So to answer the question, no.
 
2013-01-05 11:37:24 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: why would you purposely download Microsoft Internet Explorer to a mac, when Safari suffices??
just a thought


Microsoft ended support for Internet Explorer for Mac on December 31st, 2005. They have not updated it since, so it's not particularly useful any more.
 
2013-01-05 11:50:47 PM
except for all those things that you 'have' to use IE for

/not to mention that every school and work computer that has browser choice locked to only IE
 
2013-01-06 12:03:04 AM

Slackfumasta: Can you get Adblock for IE 10?

No?

Carry on then.


Tools -> Manage Add-ons -> tracking protection

Add a list or two of ad blocking and tracking protection = no more advertisements in IE 8, 9 or 10. That's been around in IE for nearly 4 years now . . . Link
 
2013-01-06 12:06:16 AM

theorellior: I use FF because of AdBlock, although there are annoyances. (Like the new nag-bar Fark's throwing up now for those who use AdBlock.) Safari is fine, I just never use it unless I need a second browser. I can't stand Chrome's UI for some reason, and I've noticed the memory hogging other people have spoken about on the computers at work. IE? Yeah, it may be better than it was, but old habits die hard.


you can use adblock to block the nagbar.
 
2013-01-06 12:11:29 AM

Slackfumasta: Can you get Adblock for IE 10?

No?

Carry on then.


The actual add-on called "Ad-Block" - NO
The lists that Ad-Block uses? - YES

Ab blocking has been built in since IE8

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-06 12:14:59 AM

GardenWeasel: you can use adblock to block the nagbar.


I tried, I couldn't figure out the magic to do it. I found a Stylish script that takes care of it.
 
2013-01-06 02:25:12 AM
Honestly, unless you'r a web developer, why does it matter what browser you use?

I swear, Chrome and FF users are getting as bad as Apple nerds.
 
2013-01-06 02:33:05 AM

LoneVVolf: enforcerpsu: It's way better than the bloatware memory hog that is Firefox.

Pale Moon says "Hi!"...


Love me some palemoon
 
2013-01-06 03:50:10 AM
I have Chrome, IE & FF on my computer and FF is losing the Pepsi challenge right now.
 
2013-01-06 03:56:47 AM

red5ish: I have Chrome, IE & FF on my computer and FF is losing the Pepsi challenge right now.


Ya. It's quite a resource hog.
 
2013-01-06 04:22:08 AM

RandomAxe: I would never try to have twelve tabs open under Chrome.


Seriously? My computer is years old, and right now I have sixty tabs open in Chrome (across four windows). I used to have well over a hundred open before I started using Tabs Outliner to help me get it under control. And Chrome is still snappy; the only delays I ever hit are on Slashdot pages, and I'm pretty sure that's still the case in FF, too.

\ Not trying to call you out, just don't understand how other people's experience can be so fundamentally different
 
2013-01-06 04:26:49 AM

Slackfumasta: Can you get Adblock for IE 10?

No?

Carry on then.


Adblock is the worst thing ever.

It's now popular enough that some sites have started taking actions against users of Adblock (including Fark.com - you now get nagware that is every bit as annoying as the ads themselves)
 
2013-01-06 05:26:22 AM
I don't have any Firefox gripes, never noticed a performance hit. I use Dolphin on the phone and chrome on the tablet.
 
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