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(Telegram)   Reporter waits at busy service area to interview E-85 buyers, leaves after three hours without spotting any   (telegram.com) divider line 14
    More: Fail, E-85, service areas, Massachusetts Turnpike, state Department of Transportation, cellulosic ethanol, Cumberland Farms, clean air laws, flex fuel  
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2013-01-05 07:50:04 PM
2 votes:
Anyone who brings up buggy whips deserves a cock punching.
2013-01-05 06:14:47 PM
2 votes:
That.

Article had.

Far too.

Many para.

Graphs.
2013-01-05 07:50:20 PM
1 votes:
There's an E85 pump where I usually buy gas. It is usually about a nickle cheaper than regular. The only cars I have ever seen using it are government owned.
2013-01-05 07:41:14 PM
1 votes:
At some point in history, someone invented the best-ever buggy whip. No buggy whip would ever improve on it for performance, efficiency, and value.

Now, there was a brief period of time around the turn of the 20th century when it made a certain amount of sense to argue about which buggy whip deserved that distinction.

Anyway, something to think about as you debate the relative merits of E85 vs. biodiesel vs. traditional gas.
2013-01-05 07:25:11 PM
1 votes:
I take that back: I have considered saving a buck by putting E85 in a rental car right before returning it. But I'm a nice guy deep down and it'd eat at me knowing I screwed the next guy over.
2013-01-05 07:09:34 PM
1 votes:

Winterlight: Though it does mean I can park in the "LEV" spaces at Whole Foods. So there's that...


I delight in pissing off Prius driving hippies by parking my full size flex fuel SUV in those spots.

Champion of the Sun: I'm no science talking dude, but depending on model, you get 15-30% less mpg with it. The cost is never 15-30% less so it's kinda worthless. But try getting a rental car that takes it, makes the fuel up before returning it cheaper.


This. I like the concept, and my SUV runs GREAT on it, but I'm spending more on ethanol (when I use it) than I do on gas.

Until they get at least much power, and equivalent cost per mile as gasoline vehicles, alternative fuel vehicles will remain a curiosity.

/don't kill the messenger, again, I own a flex fuel SUV, and once had a fully electric car, which I couldn't reliably get a 20 mile round trip out of so it had to go...
2013-01-05 07:00:39 PM
1 votes:
rlv.zcache.com
2013-01-05 06:47:31 PM
1 votes:
Pffft... ethanol is for suckers.

Best way to save money is putting the dyed agricultural gas in your car.
2013-01-05 06:30:59 PM
1 votes:
Single E-85 pumps are at the westbound service station in Charlton, which has sold 16,000 gallons to date; eastbound in Charlton, where 15,400 gallons have been sold; and westbound in Westboro, where 11,000 gallons have been sold, according to state Department of Transportation spokeswoman Sara Lavoie.


And is that a lot? A little? Some comparison to sales of normal gasoline would be nice for context, Mr. Journalist.
2013-01-05 06:27:55 PM
1 votes:
E85 is one of those ideas that seems really good to someone on some energy policy committee who doesn't actually have any personal interest in it.There's a whole "the public will buy this because we told them it's better" hubris aspect to it. Of course in practice, your average people are not going to spend more money on less gas mileage all while increasing their grocery bills just because some eco-zealot really really really wants them to.
2013-01-05 06:24:20 PM
1 votes:
FTA : It is also less expensive than traditional gasoline. E-85 fuel was $3.29 per gallon on the turnpike Friday, compared to $3.53 per gallon for regular unleaded gas

I'm going to assume that the mileage achieved is exactly the same with either fuel and that there are no taxpayer subsidies bieng thrown at the cost of production of E-85, because neither of those things were mentioned in TFA.
2013-01-05 06:23:08 PM
1 votes:

Strangerarranger: Winterlight:
"Though it does mean I can park in the "LEV" spaces at Whole Foods. So there's that..."

I just got handicap plates. Same result.

/But I did have to have a double hip joint replacement first.
//That hurt a little bit


Yeesh. The lengths some people will go, just to get a good parking space.
2013-01-05 06:17:09 PM
1 votes:
this stuff is for liberal prius drivers who suck at math and science (global warmers)
2013-01-05 05:17:42 PM
1 votes:
My car ('12 Chevy Malibu) is a "Flex Fuel" car that can handle E-85.  I have yet to even find a station that sells it, much less have heard a compelling reason to switch from regular unleaded.

Though it does mean I can park in the "LEV" spaces at Whole Foods. So there's that...
 
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