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(The Hollywood Reporter)   The Big Bang Theory is, once again, Thursday night's most-watched comedy, and it shattered two viewership records with its last episode   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 178
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2013-01-05 09:30:55 AM
Scary why? It's a good show. Better than all that "reality" junk on TV these days.
 
2013-01-05 09:35:08 AM

KawaiiNot: Better than all that "reality" junk on TV these days.


That's not a high bar at all.
 
2013-01-05 09:37:43 AM

kronicfeld: KawaiiNot: Better than all that "reality" junk on TV these days.

That's not a high bar at all.


Hey, I have standards...nobody said they have to be high standards.

Bazinga!
 
2013-01-05 09:56:44 AM
Did they ever fix the elevator?
 
2013-01-05 10:24:51 AM
Love the show.  It's the only traditional sitcom I watch.
 
2013-01-05 10:34:33 AM
 
2013-01-05 10:41:26 AM
Well, nobody has ever accused Americans of having good taste in television shows.
 
2013-01-05 11:53:15 AM

KawaiiNot: Scary why? It's a good show. Better than all that "reality" junk on TV these days.


You also liked "Triumph of the Will" and "Birth of a Nation" as weLl?

/amidoinitrite?
 
2013-01-05 12:00:31 PM

KawaiiNot: kronicfeld: KawaiiNot: Better than all that "reality" junk on TV these days.

That's not a high bar at all.

Hey, I have standards...nobody said they have to be high standards.

Bazinga!


Came for that word, but I have no idea why.  Leaving now.
 
2013-01-05 12:05:39 PM

GAT_00: Well, nobody has ever accused Americans of having good taste in television shows.


Add an overbearing laugh track to that statement, and pepper it with lame-ass non-sequitur "nerdy" references, and you could write for a shiatty Chuck Lorre show.
 
2013-01-05 12:14:48 PM

FirstNationalBastard: GAT_00: Well, nobody has ever accused Americans of having good taste in television shows.

Add an overbearing laugh track to that statement, and pepper it with lame-ass non-sequitur "nerdy" references, and you could write for a shiatty Chuck Lorre show.


I probably wouldn't mind the show so much if it didn't have the laugh track.  I've only ever liked three shows with laugh tracks: NewsRadio, Home Improvement, and Sports Night, and the track went away quickly on Sports Night.
 
2013-01-05 12:21:40 PM

GAT_00: FirstNationalBastard: GAT_00: Well, nobody has ever accused Americans of having good taste in television shows.

Add an overbearing laugh track to that statement, and pepper it with lame-ass non-sequitur "nerdy" references, and you could write for a shiatty Chuck Lorre show.

I probably wouldn't mind the show so much if it didn't have the laugh track.  I've only ever liked three shows with laugh tracks: NewsRadio, Home Improvement, and Sports Night, and the track went away quickly on Sports Night.


Pretty sure Home Improvement had a studio audience.  You even got to see some of it in the Tool Time segments.
 
2013-01-05 12:21:42 PM

Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.


You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.
 
2013-01-05 12:22:07 PM
Is the "It's not really a nerd show" crew in here yet? Let me get my popcorn.
 
2013-01-05 12:23:54 PM
I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful, and it caters to to psuedo geeks who just discovered Star Wars in 2009 because they got a decent internet connection then.

Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.
 
2013-01-05 12:25:24 PM

Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.


MASH on DVD skirts this issue.

Thankfully, it was shot one camera instead of with an audience, so the show is better without the network mandated laugh track that was shoved in there (Thanks, BBC!)

However, you're right that three camera Studio Audience shows like, oh, I Love Lucy would suffer if the laugh track were removed.
 
2013-01-05 12:26:33 PM
BBT is funnier then most comedies airing now. Compared to community or modern family it's brilliant tv.
 
2013-01-05 12:26:45 PM
Meh, it is one of the few shows I regularly watch. There aren't many that are worthwhile on network TV anymore; and it is probably the best of all shows on at this point in time.
 
2013-01-05 12:27:25 PM

Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.


The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.
 
2013-01-05 12:29:03 PM

Howie Spankowitz: Love the show.  It's the only traditional sitcom I watch.


This. I didn't start watching until it went into syndication, but it's a great show.

I just hope they have the good sense not to let it jump the shark
 
2013-01-05 12:30:17 PM
Haven't found the later seasons have been good as the first. However this weeks wasn't bad. Do agree though the laugh tracks (and shows with live audiences) are annoying.
 
2013-01-05 12:30:46 PM

kimwim: Did they ever fix the elevator?


Don't be fatuous
 
2013-01-05 12:31:52 PM
I like the show... It's not outstandingly brilliant by any means, but it's a nice way to kill 25 minutes...

/I understand the disliking, but don't share it...
 
2013-01-05 12:34:20 PM

theflatline: I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful, and it caters to to psuedo geeks who just discovered Star Wars in 2009 because they got a decent internet connection then.

Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.


THIS.

Product placement. Pandering. Enforced stereotypes.

All around terrible show.
 
2013-01-05 12:36:16 PM
I finally caught a couple episodes. It's ok. I can see how the 'real' nerds crap themselves over it, and how the 'really not nerds' find it hilarious.

Overall, I thought it wasn't hilarious or offensive. Just another sitcom. I chose Tool Time over it, given different channels and crap on everywhere.
 
2013-01-05 12:36:50 PM

BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.



That. If TBB were actually funny, they wouldn't add the laugh track to point out the "jokes".
 
2013-01-05 12:42:37 PM

Flappyhead: Is the "It's not really a nerd show" crew in here yet? Let me get my popcorn.


theflatline: I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful, and it caters to to psuedo geeks who just discovered Star Wars in 2009 because they got a decent internet connection then.

Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.


LOL this is why I love FARK
 
2013-01-05 12:44:07 PM
There is no Laugh Track for The Big Bang Theory

Big Bang Theory is filmed in front of a Live Studio Audience.

You can get tickets here

You can see a video here about going to a live taping

Bloopers Reel with audience laughter: Skip to the 8 min mark to see Johnny Galecki stop mid-scene, look at the audience and say "Really?" when a small group cheers in response to a Schrodinger's cat reference.
 
2013-01-05 12:44:23 PM

Blues_X: BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.


That. If TBB were actually funny, they wouldn't add the laugh track to point out the "jokes".


Thats not what he said, really. He said you cant just remove the track and leave the silences. Its an unfair comparison. Also what funny show do you watch that doesnt use an audience or laughtrack? Genuinely curious.
 
2013-01-05 12:45:44 PM

Madbassist1: Blues_X: BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.


That. If TBB were actually funny, they wouldn't add the laugh track to point out the "jokes".

Thats not what he said, really. He said you cant just remove the track and leave the silences. Its an unfair comparison. Also what funny show do you watch that doesnt use an audience or laughtrack? Genuinely curious.


Archer, off the top of my head.
 
2013-01-05 12:45:51 PM

Donnchadha: kimwim: Did they ever fix the elevator?

Don't be fatuous


Serious. Haven't seen an episode, since, well, second season?
 
2013-01-05 12:46:48 PM

Malacon: There is no Laugh Track for The Big Bang Theory

Big Bang Theory is filmed in front of a Live Studio Audience.

You can get tickets here

You can see a video here about going to a live taping

Bloopers Reel with audience laughter: Skip to the 8 min mark to see Johnny Galecki stop mid-scene, look at the audience and say "Really?" when a small group cheers in response to a Schrodinger's cat reference.


There is always a laugh track for three camera, studio audience shows.

If a joke falls flat, they'll punch it up with 60-year-old canned laughs. If a scene needs a retake, they'll shoot it after the audience leaves and add in 60-year-old canned laughs. If the audience sucks, they'll punch the laugh track up with 60-year-old canned laughs.
 
2013-01-05 12:49:42 PM
I've yet to watch this show. It just looks way to predictable and cutesy.
 
2013-01-05 12:50:33 PM
On one hand, I think this is a pretty terrible show. The three-camera, belaughtracked sitcom should have been done away with a decade ago. The plots are simply standard recycled sitcom fare with a few pseudo-geek jokes shoehorned in. And the first season (admittedly the only one I watched) seemed to rely on public-domain cultural signifiers for geekdom (ancient sci-fi posters) rather than modern stuff that would have required copyright releases, lending a really cheap air to the whole affair.

On the other hand, though, it seems to be making science geeks cool, and from what I hear from current physics grad students, helping them to get laid occasionally. (Wish this had been on a decade ago when I was in grad school.) So, even though this seems to be a show about geeks written by jocks, I really don't have a problem with it. But I'm not going to watch it.
 
2013-01-05 12:51:07 PM

kimwim: Donnchadha: kimwim: Did they ever fix the elevator?

Don't be fatuous

Serious. Haven't seen an episode, since, well, second season?


Yes they did. Karl Hungus made a guest appearance.
 
2013-01-05 12:53:11 PM

BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.


Seinfeld, M.A.S.H., All in the Family, etc. . . . all used laugh tracks.
 
2013-01-05 12:53:12 PM
It's a nerd minstrel show.
 
2013-01-05 12:53:32 PM

BumpInTheNight: Madbassist1: Blues_X: BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.


That. If TBB were actually funny, they wouldn't add the laugh track to point out the "jokes".

Thats not what he said, really. He said you cant just remove the track and leave the silences. Its an unfair comparison. Also what funny show do you watch that doesnt use an audience or laughtrack? Genuinely curious.

Archer, off the top of my head.


Archer was the first thing I thought of as well. If we want to limit it to live-action sitcoms for some reason, I'd add in Arrested Development and Better Off Ted as well. I think comedies that don't need to rely on laughter cues are much stronger. Although a lot of viewers honestly don't get comedy on TV without the cues, which is why shows like those by Chuck Lorre do so well.
 
2013-01-05 12:54:14 PM
Funny show, haters can suck it.
 
2013-01-05 12:55:13 PM
*searches thread for comment describing The Big Bang Theory as "nerd blackface" *

You're losing your edge, guys.
 
2013-01-05 12:55:49 PM
THANKS A BUNCH FOR STEALING MY THUNDER, BLOODY WILLIAM

*leaves in a huff*
 
2013-01-05 12:56:05 PM
Because of this show, I don't care for the sheldon character or actor at all. At all. I hate his face, his mannerisms, his voice, and his style of acting. I wanted to beat the shiat out of him. Then I found out he was gay. And it didn't change a thing, because it wouldn't be a hate crime to beat the shiat out of someone because you hate everything about them except that they're gay.

/irrational hate is the best hate.
 
2013-01-05 12:56:20 PM

Madbassist1: Flappyhead: Is the "It's not really a nerd show" crew in here yet? Let me get my popcorn.

theflatline: I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful, and it caters to to psuedo geeks who just discovered Star Wars in 2009 because they got a decent internet connection then.

Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.

LOL this is why I love FARK


I can watch bad TV, and honestly Max Headroom, the IT Crowd, Code Monkeys, Red Dwarf, and a slew of others are much better than BBT.
 
2013-01-05 12:56:25 PM
Hooray for non-reality shows breaking records!
 
2013-01-05 12:57:38 PM
So what's the popular show with Farkers, Portlandia?
 
2013-01-05 12:57:44 PM

NeoCortex42: BumpInTheNight: Madbassist1: Blues_X: BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.


That. If TBB were actually funny, they wouldn't add the laugh track to point out the "jokes".

Thats not what he said, really. He said you cant just remove the track and leave the silences. Its an unfair comparison. Also what funny show do you watch that doesnt use an audience or laughtrack? Genuinely curious.

Archer, off the top of my head.

Archer was the first thing I thought of as well. If we want to limit it to live-action sitcoms for some reason, I'd add in Arrested Development and Better Off Ted as well. I think comedies that don't need to rely on laughter cues are much stronger. Although a lot of viewers honestly don't get comedy on TV without the cues, which is why shows like those by Chuck Lorre do so well.


Aye, Modern Family is another quick nod. Laugh tracks are the crutch of the untalented comedy, the very core of things like that show Ricky Gervais lamented about during Extras (oh hey another one). Big bang theory is just another by the numbers bore that panders to the lowest common denominator stuff.
 
2013-01-05 12:57:55 PM
Well duh. Kaley Cuoco + those nerdy glasses she was wearing in the episode = yes please!
 
2013-01-05 12:58:01 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: On one hand, I think this is a pretty terrible show. The three-camera, belaughtracked sitcom should have been done away with a decade ago. The plots are simply standard recycled sitcom fare with a few pseudo-geek jokes shoehorned in. And the first season (admittedly the only one I watched) seemed to rely on public-domain cultural signifiers for geekdom (ancient sci-fi posters) rather than modern stuff that would have required copyright releases, lending a really cheap air to the whole affair.

On the other hand, though, it seems to be making science geeks cool, and from what I hear from current physics grad students, helping them to get laid occasionally. (Wish this had been on a decade ago when I was in grad school.) So, even though this seems to be a show about geeks written by jocks, I really don't have a problem with it. But I'm not going to watch it.


I don't know how much it's helped physics grad students. Every first encounter with a person basically goes like this:
"I'm in grad school, working on my PhD in physics."
"Oh, you must love big Bang Theory, then! I love that show! So are you just like Sheldon? Is that how you guys really act?"
 
2013-01-05 12:58:11 PM

BumpInTheNight: Madbassist1: Blues_X: BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.

You can't just remove the laugh track and then leave the silence that is intentionally put in there for the laugh track. The funniest show ever made would be awkward and weird if you did that.

The genuinely funny shows don't need to leave room for a laugh track.


That. If TBB were actually funny, they wouldn't add the laugh track to point out the "jokes".

Thats not what he said, really. He said you cant just remove the track and leave the silences. Its an unfair comparison. Also what funny show do you watch that doesnt use an audience or laughtrack? Genuinely curious.

Archer, off the top of my head.


Arrested Development, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Life is Short, The Office (maybe not so much lately).
 
2013-01-05 12:59:02 PM

parkerlewis: Hooray for non-reality shows breaking records!


img62.imageshack.us

"At what cost?"
 
2013-01-05 12:59:05 PM

chewielouie: Seinfeld, M.A.S.H., All in the Family, etc. . . . all used laugh tracks.


MASH was forced to by the network. The producers didn't want it. The only concession they got was no laugh track in the operating room. So, to get back, they wrote an episode that takes place entirely within the OR.

On DVD, you have the option of watching the show without the laugh track. It's much better, especially the episodes in seasons 3-5, which weren't so silly, and not yet overtly preachy. After watching MASH this way, you can't go back to watching it with the laughs.
 
2013-01-05 12:59:26 PM

Malacon: There is no Laugh Track for The Big Bang Theory


Yes there is.

It's live, not canned.
 
2013-01-05 01:00:06 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: *searches thread for comment describing The Big Bang Theory as "nerd blackface" *

You're losing your edge, guys.


I was going to add it into one of my posts, but figured I'd leave the honor to someone else.

No one bothered.
 
2013-01-05 01:01:15 PM

Bloody William: It's a nerd minstrel show.


Probably because doing a documentary style show on nerds would be boring as fark.
 
2013-01-05 01:01:50 PM

FirstNationalBastard: I was going to add it into one of my posts, but figured I'd leave the honor to someone else.

No one bothered.


S'all good, Bloody William had that covered.

(I agree with that assessment of the show, by the bye. Not a fan.)
 
2013-01-05 01:02:04 PM

flaminio: chewielouie: Seinfeld, M.A.S.H., All in the Family, etc. . . . all used laugh tracks.

MASH was forced to by the network. The producers didn't want it. The only concession they got was no laugh track in the operating room. So, to get back, they wrote an episode that takes place entirely within the OR.

On DVD, you have the option of watching the show without the laugh track. It's much better, especially the episodes in seasons 3-5, which weren't so silly, and not yet overtly preachy. After watching MASH this way, you can't go back to watching it with the laughs.


And honestly, I have to wonder if Lear would have done AITF without a laugh track if possible.  Hell, the show was no longer taped in front of a studio audience by, oh, season 6 or 7.
 
2013-01-05 01:02:39 PM
I don't know why there is such hate for the laughtrack.  How are you supposed to know what's funny without it?
 
2013-01-05 01:02:42 PM

stoli n coke: Probably because doing a documentary style show on nerds would be boring as fark.


Have you seen The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters? You'd be surprised.
 
2013-01-05 01:04:16 PM

stoli n coke: Bloody William: It's a nerd minstrel show.

Probably because doing a documentary style show on nerds would be boring as fark.


collider.com
Totally.
 
2013-01-05 01:05:10 PM
Listen. Because of this show millions of people have a better idea of what it's like to be one of us internet/science/gamer/introvert type people. Even if you don't think the show is funny (which I usually do), isn't that an accomplishment in its self? Maybe a few parents will see them playing D&D and realize it's just a game and not witchcraft. Maybe some kids will want to become theoretical physicists. Just because you knew what Schrodinger's cat is about before the show doesn't mean the rest of America did. People are learning and having fun doing it . How can you hate on that?
 
2013-01-05 01:05:38 PM

Bloody William: It's a nerd minstrel show.


There it is. At least one person has to parrot this absolutely disingenuous comment to seem above it all in every BBT thread. Every farking time. I can tell you were chomping at the bit to be the one for this thread, quickly scrolling through to make sure nobody beat you to it. Kudos, you are a tool. There's. A Beiber thread a little further down you better hurry up so you can be the Weeners the obligatory "Who?"
 
2013-01-05 01:06:12 PM

Bloody William: It's a nerd minstrel show.


I'm sure that sounded less racist in your head.
 
2013-01-05 01:06:52 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: *searches thread for comment describing The Big Bang Theory as "nerd blackface" *

You're losing your edge, guys.


Three posts up.
 
2013-01-05 01:08:18 PM

meanmutton: Three posts up.


I was typing, man!

ASTERISKS AND QUOTATION MARKS ARE HARD WORK.
 
2013-01-05 01:09:39 PM

NeoCortex42: I don't know how much it's helped physics grad students.


It's an admittedly small sample size. But when I was in grad school, if someone said, "And what do you do?" and you replied, "I'm a graduate student in physics," that tended to be the end of the conversation. (After "Oh." or "You must be smart.") It was hard to recover from that, and generally required far more convoluted responses in order to have anything approaching "game." I've been told a few times by current grad students that now a more likely response is, "Oh, like those guys on Big Bang Theory," and then right away you've got something in common (assuming they like the show, which almost everyone seems to). A couple of physics grads have swore to me it got them laid.

Freaking' geek kids have it so easy today. Back in my day, we could hardly get any play, and all the porn came through 14.4k modems, and GET OFF MY LAWN YOU KIDS!!!!
 
2013-01-05 01:10:16 PM
That show sucks.
 
2013-01-05 01:10:28 PM

FirstNationalBastard: There is always a laugh track for three camera, studio audience shows.

If a joke falls flat, they'll punch it up with 60-year-old canned laughs. If a scene needs a retake, they'll shoot it after the audience leaves and add in 60-year-old canned laughs. If the audience sucks, they'll punch the laugh track up with 60-year-old canned laughs.


No, they don't.

If the have a live audience and they need to reshoot, they'll use the laugh from the shot they did while the audience was there.

If the audience "sucks" - which rarely if ever happens with a group that large considering all the warm up and prep they get before the shooting starts - they just use good laughs from other shots.

Any manipulation of the laughter usually has more to do with technical reasons (laugh occurs over a cut that's from 2 different takes, so they choose the better laugh for the final edit) or because a scene requires 12 takes to get right and the audience isn't laughing at the joke any more.


Prank Call of Cthulhu: Malacon: There is no Laugh Track for The Big Bang Theory

Yes there is.

It's live, not canned.



Touché.

The point I'm making thought is that it's not fake laughter from decades past. It's genuine audience laughter recorded while the show you're watching at home was being shot.
 
2013-01-05 01:11:33 PM

PanicMan: Listen. Because of this show millions of people have a better idea of what it's like to be one of us internet/science/gamer/introvert type people. Even if you don't think the show is funny (which I usually do), isn't that an accomplishment in its self? Maybe a few parents will see them playing D&D and realize it's just a game and not witchcraft. Maybe some kids will want to become theoretical physicists. Just because you knew what Schrodinger's cat is about before the show doesn't mean the rest of America did. People are learning and having fun doing it . How can you hate on that?


I disagree. It's doing a disservice by reinforcing the stereotypes that people that enjoy science, video games, or sci-fi are by necessity mal-adjusted outcasts.

Most of my classmates in grad school studying physics enjoyed the geeky interests, but were also able to be just as much into football and drinking.
 
2013-01-05 01:11:52 PM

NeoCortex42: "Oh, you must love big Bang Theory, then! I love that show! So are you just like Sheldon? Is that how you guys really act?"


If anyone really acted like Sheldon, they'd be living in the streets. They sure as hell wouldn't have roommates and real friends.

/hate that show
 
2013-01-05 01:12:12 PM

FirstNationalBastard: flaminio: chewielouie: Seinfeld, M.A.S.H., All in the Family, etc. . . . all used laugh tracks.

MASH was forced to by the network. The producers didn't want it. The only concession they got was no laugh track in the operating room. So, to get back, they wrote an episode that takes place entirely within the OR.

On DVD, you have the option of watching the show without the laugh track. It's much better, especially the episodes in seasons 3-5, which weren't so silly, and not yet overtly preachy. After watching MASH this way, you can't go back to watching it with the laughs.

And honestly, I have to wonder if Lear would have done AITF without a laugh track if possible.  Hell, the show was no longer taped in front of a studio audience by, oh, season 6 or 7.



I think so. The laugh track helped break up any possible uncomfortable silence whenever Archie said something controversial. It helped lighten the mood and establish him as "just set in his ways" instead of just a bigoted asshole.

As for MASH, Alda bypassed the laugh track problem in later seasons by just writing episodes that weren't funny.
 
2013-01-05 01:13:59 PM

stoli n coke: FirstNationalBastard: flaminio: chewielouie: Seinfeld, M.A.S.H., All in the Family, etc. . . . all used laugh tracks.

MASH was forced to by the network. The producers didn't want it. The only concession they got was no laugh track in the operating room. So, to get back, they wrote an episode that takes place entirely within the OR.

On DVD, you have the option of watching the show without the laugh track. It's much better, especially the episodes in seasons 3-5, which weren't so silly, and not yet overtly preachy. After watching MASH this way, you can't go back to watching it with the laughs.

And honestly, I have to wonder if Lear would have done AITF without a laugh track if possible.  Hell, the show was no longer taped in front of a studio audience by, oh, season 6 or 7.


I think so. The laugh track helped break up any possible uncomfortable silence whenever Archie said something controversial. It helped lighten the mood and establish him as "just set in his ways" instead of just a bigoted asshole.


Yeah, AITF did sort of need the laugh track, because without it, Archie is 100% a horrible person.
 
2013-01-05 01:14:38 PM
Meh, it is one of the few shows I regularly watch. There aren't many that are worthwhile on network TV anymore; and it is probably the best of all shows on at this point in time.

this

It's an amusing little show, featuring my people (nerds), leaves you feeling good, not depressed or traumatized or annoyed, like so much of the crap on cable and broadcast. Sheldon is The Fonz, Leonard is Ritchie Cunningham, Howard is/was Ralph Malph, and Raj is Potsie. Which I guess makes Wil = Leather Tuscadero (shows up occasionally).

It will go on a little while longer, and ultimately end (gracefully, one hopes), to be seen endlessly in syndication. Such is TV life. Enjoy it in the fullness of its life.
 
2013-01-05 01:15:08 PM

GAT_00: Well, nobody has ever accused Americans of having good taste in television shows.


And what would be good taste to you? The "whiny biatch super happy hour" from Japan?
 
2013-01-05 01:15:30 PM

NeoCortex42: I don't know how much it's helped physics grad students. Every first encounter with a person basically goes like this:
"I'm in grad school, working on my PhD in physics."
"Oh, you must love big Bang Theory, then! I love that show! So are you just like Sheldon? Is that how you guys really act?"


Are you upset that people are interested in what you do and want you to tell them about it?
 
2013-01-05 01:16:48 PM
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2013-01-05 01:17:27 PM
I have yet to actually want to sit through an entire episode of this show.
 
2013-01-05 01:17:33 PM

NeoCortex42: BumpInTheNight: Madbassist1: Blues_X: BumpInTheNight: Hand Banana: Blues_X:
Archer was the first thing I thought of as well. If we want to limit it to live-action sitcoms for some reason, I'd add in Arrested Development and Better Off Ted as well. I think comedies that don't need to rely on laughter cues are much stronger. Although a lot of viewers honestly don't get comedy on TV without the cues, which is why shows like those by Chuck Lorre do so well.


I love that. Although I dont disagree ( I LOVE AD, got all of em on dvd), I cant help but point out the FARK stereotype. "The stuff I like is superior to all others, those who dont agree are tasteless cretins"

and...

theflatline: Madbassist1: Flappyhead: Is the "It's not really a nerd show" crew in here yet? Let me get my popcorn.

theflatline: I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful, and it caters to to psuedo geeks who just discovered Star Wars in 2009 because they got a decent internet connection then.

Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.

LOL this is why I love FARK

I can watch bad TV, and honestly Max Headroom, the IT Crowd, Code Monkeys, Red Dwarf, and a slew of others are much better than BBT.


My point was the very post above yours was "in before people complaining its not a nerd show" You come in the NEXT POST complaining "Its not a real nerd show"

That was farking funny, is all.
 
2013-01-05 01:17:37 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: *searches thread for comment describing The Big Bang Theory as "nerd blackface" *

You're losing your edge, guys.


It's what stupid people think smart people sound like; it's the Newt Gingrich of comedy.
 
2013-01-05 01:20:47 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's what stupid people think smart people sound like; it's the Newt Gingrich of comedy.


Smart people don't post on FARK
 
2013-01-05 01:21:26 PM

cryinoutloud: NeoCortex42: "Oh, you must love big Bang Theory, then! I love that show! So are you just like Sheldon? Is that how you guys really act?"

If anyone really acted like Sheldon, they'd be living in the streets. They sure as hell wouldn't have roommates and real friends.

/hate that show


I had a roommate that was an IT version he was about 85% as bad though. He had all kinds of quirky rules. One example was that I was not allowed to keep ice in the freezer because he could smell it all the way in his room which was upstairs and down a 12 foot hallway. He said he could smell it with his door closed. No alcohol in the house, guests had to be cleared before inviting them over etc. Last I heard he started drinking for a girlfriend and really mellowed out.
 
2013-01-05 01:24:30 PM

Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.


There is a live audience. I went to a taping in April 2011 (season finale when Penny and Raj "slept" together). There is live audience laughter, but they do augment it with a track. They did change a few lines here and there to see which got the biggest laughs.
 
2013-01-05 01:26:16 PM
Years ago the owner/manger of Lassie was hearing complaints from collie breeders. The breeders were objecting to the fact that Lassie didn't meet breed standards. She didn't. The owner pulled out a stack of cash and said look at these ribbons. Chuck Lorre can do the same to those who says his shows suck. Feel better by not watching TBBT but he's laughing all the way to the bank
 
2013-01-05 01:27:55 PM
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2013-01-05 01:33:04 PM

Popcorn Johnny: So what's the popular show with Farkers, Portlandia?


Uh, Portlandia is a hipster minstrel show. I hate every time it comes on the TV that I don't own.
 
2013-01-05 01:33:42 PM

hbk72777: GAT_00: Well, nobody has ever accused Americans of having good taste in television shows.

And what would be good taste to you? The "whiny biatch super happy hour" from Japan?


Active shows I watch: The Good Wife, Newsroom, Suits, Covert Affairs, Psych, White Collar and Burn Notice.  Old shows that I am a fan of: West Wing, Star Trek, and the ones I mentioned previously.
 
2013-01-05 01:33:45 PM

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Never noticed lefty is much much bigger than righty
 
2013-01-05 01:34:35 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's what stupid people think smart people sound like; it's the Newt Gingrich of comedy.


Pretty much, aye.

C'mon, it's a Chuck Lorre show. It's the people who brought you Dharma & Greg taking on geek culture.

Take that as you will.
 
2013-01-05 01:34:56 PM
So the conversation is about Thursday night comedies and the merits of laugh tracks or studio audiences, and none of you frittatas have mentioned The League?

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Shiva frowns on these shenanigans.
 
2013-01-05 01:36:43 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: C'mon, it's a Chuck Lorre show. It's the people who brought you Dharma & Greg taking on geek culture.


It's from the people who brought you everything else on CBS
 
2013-01-05 01:46:17 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's what stupid people think smart people sound like; it's the Newt Gingrich of comedy.

Pretty much, aye.

C'mon, it's a Chuck Lorre show. It's the people who brought you Dharma & Greg taking on geek culture.

Take that as you will.


More importantly it's a sit-com.

You're looking for accuracy in the depiction of a group of people - any group of people - from a sit-com?

It's all about stereo-typing and simplification for the sake of easily accessible comedy. You think a sit-com that accurately represents the lives of an Astrophysicist, a Theoretical Physicist, an Experimental Physicist and an Aerospace Engineer would be naturally funny to the masses?

Seriously, it's a sit-com. You're over thinking it, people.
 
2013-01-05 01:49:10 PM
Last 4th of July I was sitting in a park with some friends for a fireworks display. We were having a conversation about alien life, and animatedly debating the potential difficulties of trying to communicate with hypothetical intelligent alien life -- whether there would be any common vocabulary of ideas, whether they would understand our concept of the individual, whether mathematical principles might be a more universal language that opens the door to further exchange of ideas, etc. etc. Not an unusual conversation for us.

A fat woman in a lawn chair turned to us and said "Y'ALL SOUND LIKE A REAL LIFE VERSION OF THE BIG BANG THEORY!" We just looked at her blankly for a few moments and then resumed our conversation.
 
2013-01-05 01:49:21 PM
This just in:

Big Bang is not a show for nerds about nerds.

Big Bang is a show about nerds for everyone else.

A show for nerds about nerds would probably tank because the (vast) majority of potential viewers would probably have trouble following it. Big Bang does a good job of throwing in nerd references with just enough explanation to get the idea across - any scene where Sheldon has to explain something to Penny, or any time someone makes one of those Star Trek-style "it's just like sticking a pin in a balloon!" analogies.

There's a point on the being-authentic-to-the-subject-matter spectrum where average viewers stop tuning in because it doesn't appeal to them. I think Big Bang is just shy of that, and nobody with a brain is saying otherwise. Complaining about it is no better than complaining about how Michael Westen gets to cause an explosive traffic jam on a major Miami road every week without ever hearing from the cops.
 
2013-01-05 01:49:50 PM

Madbassist1: Also what funny show do you watch that doesnt use an audience or laughtrack? Genuinely curious.


TBBT is the only comedy show I watch that has a laugh track and I genuinely wonder why I bother the show is rather terrible lately. Some of these shows are defunct or about to be but I re-watch all the time

30 Rock, Community, Parks & Rec, Eastbound and Down, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia, Modern Family, Portlandia, The Office (uk), Trailer Park Boys.

Animated: Archer, Frisky Dingo, Bobs Burgers, Family Guy, American Dad, Simpsons, Venture Brothers
 
2013-01-05 01:52:46 PM

Donnchadha: It's from the people who brought you everything else on CBS


I'll stop you right there and admit to liking NCIS. (I know, I know.)

Okay, continue.


Malacon: More importantly it's a sit-com.

You're looking for accuracy in the depiction of a group of people - any group of people - from a sit-com?

It's all about stereo-typing and simplification for the sake of easily accessible comedy. You think a sit-com that accurately represents the lives of an Astrophysicist, a Theoretical Physicist, an Experimental Physicist and an Aerospace Engineer would be naturally funny to the masses?

Seriously, it's a sit-com. You're over thinking it, people.


I'm merely saying that it's possible to make a funny sitcom about a specific group of people without having to resort to such wildly broad caricatures.

I'm not looking for accuracy so much as I'm looking for an absence of transparent pandering.

TBBT doesn't bother me along a geeky level, it bothers me along a comedic level. Your mileage may vary, and we cool there. We cool.
 
2013-01-05 01:53:16 PM

Malacon: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's what stupid people think smart people sound like; it's the Newt Gingrich of comedy.

Pretty much, aye.

C'mon, it's a Chuck Lorre show. It's the people who brought you Dharma & Greg taking on geek culture.

Take that as you will.

More importantly it's a sit-com.

You're looking for accuracy in the depiction of a group of people - any group of people - from a sit-com?

It's all about stereo-typing and simplification for the sake of easily accessible comedy. You think a sit-com that accurately represents the lives of an Astrophysicist, a Theoretical Physicist, an Experimental Physicist and an Aerospace Engineer would be naturally funny to the masses?

Seriously, it's a sit-com. You're over thinking it, people.



You have to remember, the people complaing over accuracy in BBT are the same people that thought this
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was below their standards just because she didn't really like World of Warcraft as much as she claimed.
"No True Nerd" is this generation's "No True Scotsman."
 
2013-01-05 01:53:59 PM

Lokasenna: Complaining about it is no better than complaining about how Michael Westen gets to cause an explosive traffic jam on a major Miami road every week without ever hearing from the cops.


It's because he eats lots of yogurt, which helps those areas of his brain that are responsible for tactical operations.

It's handled in-universe, people.
 
2013-01-05 01:55:30 PM
Sheldon may be a genius. But he is socially retarded. Kaley Cuoco keeps me coming back to watch. Nobody on the show was poorly cast though. I enjoy all the characters for their different foibles.
 
2013-01-05 01:56:23 PM

PanicMan: NeoCortex42: I don't know how much it's helped physics grad students. Every first encounter with a person basically goes like this:
"I'm in grad school, working on my PhD in physics."
"Oh, you must love big Bang Theory, then! I love that show! So are you just like Sheldon? Is that how you guys really act?"

Are you upset that people are interested in what you do and want you to tell them about it?


But it's not that at all. They're not interested in what I do. They just think they already know about it through misinformation. Let's use another show as a different example:
"Oh, I'm a secretary."
"Oh, really! I love The Office! Its such a great show. Do you like it, too? I'm sure you would. It must be so crazy working around people like that all the time."

The difference is, people recognize that The Office is pretty far removed from reality at this point while also treating BBT as a pseudo-documentary.
 
2013-01-05 01:58:04 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Donnchadha: It's from the people who brought you everything else on CBS

I'll stop you right there and admit to liking NCIS. (I know, I know.)


And that's okay, because NCIS is nothing more than "What If The Goddamn Batman were a Navy Cop".
 
2013-01-05 02:01:26 PM

FirstNationalBastard: And that's okay, because NCIS is nothing more than "What If The Goddamn Batman were a Navy Cop".


And I'm perfectly alright with this.

(That, and DiNozzo making an absurdly wonderful number of movie references.)
 
2013-01-05 02:08:22 PM

Malacon: You think a sit-com that accurately represents the lives of an Astrophysicist, a Theoretical Physicist, an Experimental Physicist and an Aerospace Engineer would be naturally funny to the masses anyone at all?


FTFY, Sport.
 
2013-01-05 02:11:31 PM

NeoCortex42: The difference is, people recognize that The Office is pretty far removed from reality at this point while also treating BBT as a pseudo-documentary.


That's because even idiots like me generally know what a secretary does. A theoretical physicist? Not so much. Quit being an elitist prick, like the asshole upthread that made up a story about some fat chick interrupting him and his friends in their intellectual discourse on the 4th of July.
 
2013-01-05 02:12:33 PM
Oh look, its this thread again, wherein nerds defend a show pandering to what non-nerds think nerds are like.
 
2013-01-05 02:14:22 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Donnchadha: It's from the people who brought you everything else on CBS

I'll stop you right there and admit to liking NCIS. (I know, I know.)

And that's okay, because NCIS is nothing more than "What If The Goddamn Batman were a Navy Cop".


You say that like that isn't awesome.  NCIS is fun.
 
2013-01-05 02:15:35 PM

Malacon: You think a sit-com that accurately represents the lives of an Astrophysicist, a Theoretical Physicist, an Experimental Physicist and an Aerospace Engineer would be naturally funny to the masses?


I doubt it would be naturally funny to them
 
2013-01-05 02:26:44 PM

Popcorn Johnny: So what's the popular show with Farkers, Portlandia?


I loved Portlandia for about three episodes, and then I realized that every single sketch was the same: person or persons do or say something absurd. Other person or persons are caught off guard, get frustrated, try to "go with it" to be polite, or otherwise react predictably, but fail because the other people don't- or can't- understand that their actions are absurd. Both sets of person or persons do so while acting in an irrationally endearing and/or antagonistic manner. The end.

The show is clever in that it skewers the skewerers. Making fun of people whose existence consist of living outside the norm and being smug about it is something that few other shows can pull off. (Although It HAS been done- c.f. South Park "smug" episode.) Making it a mix of sketch comedy and episodic comedy is also clever, as is the use of the two main actors in (nearly) every segment.

There's a lot to like about the show, but honestly the repetition gets to you eventually. So much so that you really only need to see one or two episodes to have seen them all. I suppose the same could be said of The Big Bang Theory, just with a different set of things that are common to every episode.

Boil it down to the essentials, and you have this:

Penny is hotter than Carrie.
 
2013-01-05 02:29:15 PM
oh goody the thread where everyone on FARK tells me how lame BBT it because it has a laughtrack, doesn't delve into inside jokes of the physics community that most people can't relate to, stereotypes nerds and general Chuck Lorre hate.

did I miss anything?
 
2013-01-05 02:30:18 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: oh goody the thread where everyone on FARK tells me how lame BBT it because it has a laughtrack, doesn't delve into inside jokes of the physics community that most people can't relate to, stereotypes nerds and general Chuck Lorre hate.

did I miss anything?


Someone said you make minstrel shows too, can't forget that Mr Lorre.
 
2013-01-05 02:31:20 PM
If you don't like a show then don't watch it. Change the channel, go outside and play, do something else.
 
2013-01-05 02:34:44 PM

Madbassist1: NeoCortex42: The difference is, people recognize that The Office is pretty far removed from reality at this point while also treating BBT as a pseudo-documentary.

That's because even idiots like me generally know what a secretary does. A theoretical physicist? Not so much. Quit being an elitist prick, like the asshole upthread that made up a story about some fat chick interrupting him and his friends in their intellectual discourse on the 4th of July.


Wow, guess I touched a nerve there.

You kind of showed my point, though. Everybody does know what a secretary does. This is why most everybody realizes shows like The Office are often pretty far from reality. Yet, at the same time, these same people often don't think that all of the preconceived notions they have about geeks from Big Bang Theory might be equally far from reality.
 
2013-01-05 02:37:20 PM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: On one hand, I think this is a pretty terrible show. The three-camera, belaughtracked sitcom should have been done away with a decade ago. The plots are simply standard recycled sitcom fare with a few pseudo-geek jokes shoehorned in. And the first season (admittedly the only one I watched) seemed to rely on public-domain cultural signifiers for geekdom (ancient sci-fi posters) rather than modern stuff that would have required copyright releases, lending a really cheap air to the whole affair.

On the other hand, though, it seems to be making science geeks cool, and from what I hear from current physics grad students, helping them to get laid occasionally. (Wish this had been on a decade ago when I was in grad school.) So, even though this seems to be a show about geeks written by jocks, I really don't have a problem with it. But I'm not going to watch it.


Anything sci-fi that had posters is not likely in the public domain yet. You would have to go back to the 1920s to find any of that.
 
2013-01-05 02:40:19 PM

red5ish: If you don't like a show then don't watch it. Change the channel, go outside and play, do something else.


We're talking geeks here. To many of them, going outside would be like the first 10 minutes of Total Recall when Arnold is on Mars and his helmet comes off.
 
2013-01-05 02:42:00 PM

theflatline: I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful,


Pretty sure it's meant for people who have a regular sense of humor.

Seriously, if you yourself admit that your sense of humor is weird and non-standard, why complain about something clearly meant for the masses?
 
2013-01-05 02:44:15 PM

PanicMan: Listen. Because of this show millions of people have a better idea of what it's like to be one of us internet/science/gamer/introvert type people. Even if you don't think the show is funny (which I usually do), isn't that an accomplishment in its self? Maybe a few parents will see them playing D&D and realize it's just a game and not witchcraft. Maybe some kids will want to become theoretical physicists. Just because you knew what Schrodinger's cat is about before the show doesn't mean the rest of America did. People are learning and having fun doing it . How can you hate on that?


No, because anyone who thought DnD was witchcraft is so far gone that a sitcom isn't going to fix that.
 
2013-01-05 02:45:52 PM
I don't want to watch a show about what real physicists do. I'd rather watch a show about these guys. The laugh track doesn't bother me when I generally find what is being laughed at funny as well.

An awful laugh track? Two broke girls. I watched it last season because it was between HIMYM and two and a half men, but it was brutal.
 
2013-01-05 02:56:55 PM
Forget the laugh track (yes, I know it's got a live audience, but if you think that means there isn't a laugh track as well, you know nothing about how these types of TV sit-coms are filmed, so shaddup-a-you-face),what makes this show suck is that it has shiatty writing and has about the same level of humor as a fence post.

Look, Sheldon doesn't understand social morays. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Leonard is a grown man living with his mother. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Sheldon has come up with an overly complicated solution to a simple problem. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Penny doesn't understand a geeky reference. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Leonard's mom is a Jewish harpy. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Penny wants to be an actress and works as a waitress. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Raj has poor fashion sense. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?

This is a show by the guy who created, produces, and writes for Two and a Half Men. Just remember that the next time you're watching TBBT...you're watching something from a guy who thinks 30 minutes of fart and masturbation jokes make for good entertainment.
 
2013-01-05 02:57:17 PM
I don't hate BBT, and will occasionally watch a rerun, but I don't consider it a particularly good comedy. I am mostly frustrated with NBC for moronically keeping Community in the 8pm slot against a show that was already a juggernaut.
 
2013-01-05 02:58:55 PM
Harbinger of the Doomed Rat:

Look, Sheldon doesn't understand social morays. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?


Anti-social eels are never funny.
 
2013-01-05 02:58:56 PM

had98c: Well duh. Kaley Cuoco + those nerdy glasses she was wearing in the episode = yes please!


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"I'm going to take everything off you except those glasses.  And maybe your boots...."

The funniest BBT line in years.
 
2013-01-05 02:59:02 PM

Bloody William: It's a nerd minstrel show.


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Swan-nee. How. I Love. Ya. How.I Love. Ya. My. Dear. Old. Swan-nee.
 
2013-01-05 03:00:42 PM

Bloody William: It's a nerd minstrel show.


Nerdsploitation.
 
2013-01-05 03:06:51 PM
The giant Jenga was awesome and Penny wearing nerd glasses?

Hubba, HUBBA!

Suck it haters and go watch re-runs of that crap-fest Fringe
 
2013-01-05 03:20:32 PM
I tried to watch this show for 10 minutes and I almost went blind at how unfunny it was. Just aggressively, obnoxiously not clever or funny. Hands down better shows include Parks & Rec, Community, Workaholics, Always Sunny, Archer, Futurama, The League, and even The Office or Wilfred.
 
2013-01-05 03:36:30 PM

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: you're watching something from a guy who thinks 30 minutes of fart and masturbation jokes make for good entertainment.


30 minutes of fart and masturbation jokes would be tremendously good entertainment! That would be like four episodes of Robot Chicken. I would watch that show. Too bad Chuck Lorre doesn't make anything like that. If there was a show actually called, 30 Minutes of Fart and Masturbation Jokes I would be all like "Shut up and take my money!!!"
 
2013-01-05 03:39:55 PM

Richard Sauce: Workaholics


No.
 
2013-01-05 03:45:43 PM

GAT_00: You say that like that isn't awesome.  NCIS is fun.


I prefer NCIS Los Angeles, or is it CSI Los Angeles?, where there's a big shoot-out every episode right in the middle of L.A., but somehow no one ever gets in trouble for this, or attracts much attention at all.
 
2013-01-05 03:53:13 PM

GAT_00: FirstNationalBastard: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Donnchadha: It's from the people who brought you everything else on CBS

I'll stop you right there and admit to liking NCIS. (I know, I know.)

And that's okay, because NCIS is nothing more than "What If The Goddamn Batman were a Navy Cop".

You say that like that isn't awesome.  NCIS is fun.


Oh, no, I agree... NCIS is fun. Realizing it's The Goddamn Batman as a Navy Cop makes it more fun.
 
2013-01-05 04:06:14 PM

Occam's Disposable Razor: So the conversation is about Thursday night comedies and the merits of laugh tracks or studio audiences, and none of you frittatas have mentioned The League?

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Shiva frowns on these shenanigans.


Shivakamini Somakandarkram!!!

/oh the things I would do to disappoint that woman for 30 seconds
 
2013-01-05 04:09:58 PM

Richard Sauce: I tried to watch this show for 10 minutes and I almost went blind at how unfunny it was. Just aggressively, obnoxiously not clever or funny. Hands down better shows include Parks & Rec, Community, Workaholics, Always Sunny, Archer, Futurama, The League, and even The Office or Wilfred.


You didn't almost go blind. You're lying. Why are you a lying liar who lies?
 
2013-01-05 04:11:28 PM

theflatline: I am am a 43 year old geek, well read, well traveled, and have a bizarre sense of humor.  I have tried but I find the show just awful, and it caters to to psuedo geeks who just discovered Star Wars in 2009 because they got a decent internet connection then.

Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.


So, you were into nerdiness before it got mainstream?
 
2013-01-05 04:15:38 PM

stoli n coke: Richard Sauce: I tried to watch this show for 10 minutes and I almost went blind at how unfunny it was. Just aggressively, obnoxiously not clever or funny. Hands down better shows include Parks & Rec, Community, Workaholics, Always Sunny, Archer, Futurama, The League, and even The Office or Wilfred.

You didn't almost go blind. You're lying. Why are you a lying liar who lies?


He might not be lying. He did say the not clever or funny parts were very aggressive. Perhaps the show simply kicked the hell out of him.
 
2013-01-05 04:18:23 PM

The Gentleman Caller: Because of this show, I don't care for the sheldon character or actor at all. At all. I hate his face, his mannerisms, his voice, and his style of acting. I wanted to beat the shiat out of him. Then I found out he was gay. And it didn't change a thing, because it wouldn't be a hate crime to beat the shiat out of someone because you hate everything about them except that they're gay.

/irrational hate is the best hate.


So what you're really saying is that you want to suck his dick?
 
2013-01-05 04:31:45 PM

Lokasenna: This just in:

Big Bang is not a show for nerds about nerds.

Big Bang is a show about nerds for everyone else.

A show for nerds about nerds would probably tank because the (vast) majority of potential viewers would probably have trouble following it. Big Bang does a good job of throwing in nerd references with just enough explanation to get the idea across - any scene where Sheldon has to explain something to Penny, or any time someone makes one of those Star Trek-style "it's just like sticking a pin in a balloon!" analogies.

There's a point on the being-authentic-to-the-subject-matter spectrum where average viewers stop tuning in because it doesn't appeal to them. I think Big Bang is just shy of that, and nobody with a brain is saying otherwise. Complaining about it is no better than complaining about how Michael Westen gets to cause an explosive traffic jam on a major Miami road every week without ever hearing from the cops.


Plus about 99% of self proclaimed "nerds" (ya know, people that think playing video games make them nerds) wouldn't get it either.
 
2013-01-05 04:34:38 PM
ZIMBABWE
 
2013-01-05 05:03:54 PM
Penny's black dress, just for fun.
 
2013-01-05 05:04:50 PM
God damn it, http://i.minus.com/idvRAnEXZsUw6.gif it won't let me link for some reason.
 
2013-01-05 05:23:58 PM
This show is awesome because of 1) Sheldon, and 2) Penny's fantastic tits.
 
2013-01-05 05:27:52 PM
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/yes please
 
2013-01-05 05:42:07 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Product placement.


I know, right? I've been totally addicted to Dr Peeper and Cola since I started watching.

saga.bidyut.com

saga.bidyut.com
 
2013-01-05 06:04:59 PM

Popcorn Johnny: So what's the popular show with Farkers, Portlandia?


No. You've heard of Portlandia. What farkers like is really obscure. You wouldn't have heard of it.
 
2013-01-05 06:10:09 PM

fusillade762: DeathByGeekSquad: Product placement.

I know, right? I've been totally addicted to Dr Peeper and Cola since I started watching.
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www.lostwackys.com
 
2013-01-05 06:24:44 PM

Funbags: Oh look, its this thread again, wherein nerds defend a show pandering to what non-nerds think nerds are like.


My nerd cred:
Wrote a Star Trek fan fiction novel
Spoke Klingon to Michael Dorn
Dressed daughter up as Yoda for HWeen
PhD
Published researcher
Has Lenier figure autographed by JMS
Has both bat'leth and d'k tahg hanging over my office desk
Ragequit Spider-Man over the clone saga
Writing a scholarly book chapter on the psychology of A Song of Ice and Fire
Wrote a paper on Firefly and the psychology of religion
Sang babies to sleep with Jonathan Coulton numbers
Regularly hosts MST3k nights
Named a child after a Firefly character (not telling you which)
Married an equally-nerdy woman (they do exist and they're awesome)

I farking LOVE Big Bang Theory. Mrs Thunder and I refer to the show as "Our People" and laugh our butts off. Don't like it? Dislodge the stick from your colon and you might start finding it enjoyable.
 
2013-01-05 06:27:43 PM

pacmanner: [i662.photobucket.com image 252x253]


I'd sit through a laugh track for that every week.
 
2013-01-05 07:02:57 PM

stoli n coke: Malacon: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: It's what stupid people think smart people sound like; it's the Newt Gingrich of comedy.

Pretty much, aye.

C'mon, it's a Chuck Lorre show. It's the people who brought you Dharma & Greg taking on geek culture.

Take that as you will.

More importantly it's a sit-com.

You're looking for accuracy in the depiction of a group of people - any group of people - from a sit-com?

It's all about stereo-typing and simplification for the sake of easily accessible comedy. You think a sit-com that accurately represents the lives of an Astrophysicist, a Theoretical Physicist, an Experimental Physicist and an Aerospace Engineer would be naturally funny to the masses?

Seriously, it's a sit-com. You're over thinking it, people.


You have to remember, the people complaing over accuracy in BBT are the same people that thought this
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was below their standards just because she didn't really like World of Warcraft as much as she claimed.
"No True Nerd" is this generation's "No True Scotsman."


...any woman who wants a nerd and thinks she has to lie about being a nerd to get one deserves to die alone.
 
2013-01-05 07:47:25 PM
This whole thread needs a dose of:

1-media-cdn.foolz.us

/BBT's not my cup of tea
//To each their own.
 
2013-01-05 08:25:33 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: oh goody the thread where everyone on FARK tells me how lame BBT it because it has a laughtrack, doesn't delve into inside jokes of the physics community that most people can't relate to, stereotypes nerds and general Chuck Lorre hate.

did I miss anything?


These are almost as bad as beer threads. Apparently everyone on fark drinks a special dark brew only made in a corner brewery in a town that isn't even on the map. They are the only ones blessed enough to drink from the cup. Also, all light beers are for peasants.
 
2013-01-05 08:37:48 PM
Used to hate it until I watched a couple of episodes. It's actually pretty good. Laugh track has gotta go though.
 
2013-01-05 09:32:38 PM
If you think about it the pause for laughter is good for the writers. For a 30 minute sit com you have about 7 minutes of commercials and say 30 seconds of theme song. That leaves 22.5 minutes of dialogue to write if you figure 3 laughs per minute at 3 seconds per laugh that is 1 less minute of writing you have to do for every (approximately) 7 minutes divide that into your remaining 22.5 minutes and you now only have to provide approximately 19 minutes of dialogue. Pretty smart if you ask me.
 
2013-01-05 09:33:47 PM
Sorry for the run on sentence, crappy punctuation and poor grammar.
 
2013-01-05 09:49:03 PM
Speaking of laugh tracks, anyone ever notice that there's that ONE GUY in the laugh track of "Seinfeld" and "Friends" that does an over-loud, over-jolly, over-hilarious'd laugh like HA HA HAAAAA at the segue or end of a particular scene here and there?
 
2013-01-05 09:49:54 PM
Laugh track sitcoms are soooo 5 years ago...

/That's how a lot of you sound, like hipsters.
 
2013-01-05 09:56:00 PM

cryinoutloud: NeoCortex42: "Oh, you must love big Bang Theory, then! I love that show! So are you just like Sheldon? Is that how you guys really act?"

If anyone really acted like Sheldon, they'd be living in the streets. They sure as hell wouldn't have roommates and real friends.

/hate that show


Penny and Raj are great characters.  The rest of the show is just a sackful of assholes.
 
2013-01-05 10:05:14 PM

titwrench: If you think about it the pause for laughter is good for the writers. For a 30 minute sit com you have about 7 minutes of commercials and say 30 seconds of theme song. That leaves 22.5 minutes of dialogue to write if you figure 3 laughs per minute at 3 seconds per laugh that is 1 less minute of writing you have to do for every (approximately) 7 minutes divide that into your remaining 22.5 minutes and you now only have to provide approximately 19 minutes of dialogue. Pretty smart if you ask me.



I read this in Sheldon's voice ..
 
2013-01-05 10:10:18 PM

Austin Millbarge: titwrench: If you think about it the pause for laughter is good for the writers. For a 30 minute sit com you have about 7 minutes of commercials and say 30 seconds of theme song. That leaves 22.5 minutes of dialogue to write if you figure 3 laughs per minute at 3 seconds per laugh that is 1 less minute of writing you have to do for every (approximately) 7 minutes divide that into your remaining 22.5 minutes and you now only have to provide approximately 19 minutes of dialogue. Pretty smart if you ask me.


I read this in Sheldon's voice ..


Then I did and I giggled.
 
2013-01-05 10:39:05 PM
Penny withbthe glasses.... yowza
 
2013-01-05 11:00:55 PM
I like the short blonde with the big cans.
 
2013-01-05 11:02:35 PM

titwrench: If you think about it the pause for laughter is good for the writers. For a 30 minute sit com you have about 7 minutes of commercials and say 30 seconds of theme song. That leaves 22.5 minutes of dialogue to write if you figure 3 laughs per minute at 3 seconds per laugh that is 1 less minute of writing you have to do for every (approximately) 7 minutes divide that into your remaining 22.5 minutes and you now only have to provide approximately 19 minutes of dialogue. Pretty smart if you ask me.


Yep, that's the impression I get with studio audience/laugh track sitcoms, everyone doing the bare minimum of work they can get away with. And I've said this before, but laugh tracks on TV give me the same feeling as when I hear REO Speedwagon on the radio. Let's farking evolve, people.
 
2013-01-05 11:05:14 PM
Hey, they're smart, but retarded, isn't that funny? LOLOLOLL!!!11!!! Awful show.
 
2013-01-05 11:10:16 PM

thanksagainandagain: I like the short blonde with the big cans.


She's a cutey, alright. The part where she first hooked up with Wolowitz and started yelling back to his mother in almost the exact same voice made me lol.
 
2013-01-05 11:36:06 PM
I loathe this show. If you changed the "nerds" to Black people, and used the same sorts of demeaning jokes, you'd have one of the most racist shows on television next to Jeff Dunham's cancelled hate-fest.

I think if I ever met the actor who plays Sheldon, I'd have to be congratulated if I didn't punch him square in the nose. His performance is the nerd equivalent of blackface.

Big Bang Theory is a nerd minstrel show.
 
2013-01-05 11:54:08 PM

ZeroCorpse: I loathe this show. If you changed the "nerds" to Black people, and used the same sorts of demeaning jokes, you'd have one of the most racist shows on television next to Jeff Dunham's cancelled hate-fest.

I think if I ever met the actor who plays Sheldon, I'd have to be congratulated if I didn't punch him square in the nose. His performance is the nerd equivalent of blackface.

Big Bang Theory is a nerd minstrel show.



That's so original and inciteful. I'm surprise no one else has tried to make this point in this thre-, Oh, wait. They have.
0/10. You get nothing. Good day, sir.
 
2013-01-06 01:07:54 AM

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Forget the laugh track (yes, I know it's got a live audience, but if you think that means there isn't a laugh track as well, you know nothing about how these types of TV sit-coms are filmed, so shaddup-a-you-face),what makes this show suck is that it has shiatty writing and has about the same level of humor as a fence post.


I'm amazed how many people keep saying Big Bang Theory uses a laugh track. It's been said many times before that they don't use one.

But insisting they use one when they don't? You are the biggest idiots here, ready to make an argument but providing no evidence or even anecdotes to the contrary. I've been to a taping at Warner Bros. Studios, not for Big Bang Theory, but they discussed how some of the taping goes, and that it is consistent for all their sitcoms, which include BBT. They explicitly avoid a laugh track. If after a scene, they don't get the response they want, they will have another joke ready and will have the scene redone with the new joke in the place of the old one that got no or few laughs. Since most of the sitcom is pieced together in editing afterwards (all scenes are shot at least twice), they can get the best takes and the loudest laughter put together for the ideal cut. Criticize this method if you want, but ultimately, there is little difference in this versus a story board where ideas may be changed.

If you don't like BBT, fine. Everyone has different tastes after all, right? But don't make arguments that are factually wrong to support your case. At least recognize what goes on behind the scenes to make a strong case, rather than looking like a doofus on Fark (though, then again, we pretty much all do here at some point or another).
 
2013-01-06 01:24:24 AM

06Wahoo: Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Forget the laugh track (yes, I know it's got a live audience, but if you think that means there isn't a laugh track as well, you know nothing about how these types of TV sit-coms are filmed, so shaddup-a-you-face),what makes this show suck is that it has shiatty writing and has about the same level of humor as a fence post.

I'm amazed how many people keep saying Big Bang Theory uses a laugh track. It's been said many times before that they don't use one.

But insisting they use one when they don't? You are the biggest idiots here, ready to make an argument but providing no evidence or even anecdotes to the contrary. I've been to a taping at Warner Bros. Studios, not for Big Bang Theory, but they discussed how some of the taping goes, and that it is consistent for all their sitcoms, which include BBT. They explicitly avoid a laugh track. If after a scene, they don't get the response they want, they will have another joke ready and will have the scene redone with the new joke in the place of the old one that got no or few laughs. Since most of the sitcom is pieced together in editing afterwards (all scenes are shot at least twice), they can get the best takes and the loudest laughter put together for the ideal cut. Criticize this method if you want, but ultimately, there is little difference in this versus a story board where ideas may be changed.



So, what you're saying is that they manipulate the recorded laughter however they want it, creating a track of said laughter to suit their needs.

Why, it's almost like they're creating a LAUGH TRACK.
 
2013-01-06 03:14:53 AM

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: Forget the laugh track (yes, I know it's got a live audience, but if you think that means there isn't a laugh track as well, you know nothing about how these types of TV sit-coms are filmed, so shaddup-a-you-face),what makes this show suck is that it has shiatty writing and has about the same level of humor as a fence post.

Look, Sheldon doesn't understand social morays. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Leonard is a grown man living with his mother. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Sheldon has come up with an overly complicated solution to a simple problem. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Penny doesn't understand a geeky reference. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Leonard's mom is a Jewish harpy. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Penny wants to be an actress and works as a waitress. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?
Look, Raj has poor fashion sense. ISN'T THAT FUNNY!?

This is a show by the guy who created, produces, and writes for Two and a Half Men. Just remember that the next time you're watching TBBT...you're watching something from a guy who thinks 30 minutes of fart and masturbation jokes make for good entertainment.


Hmmm, Leonard isn't Jewish and Raj is kinda metrosexual so you you are completely wrong ISN'T THAT FUNNY?

So yes it has some broad stereotypical humor and it does get some specifics wrong (I'm looking at you Penny MMO episode) but I will give them that they really work very hard at always geting their science right and their comic book references are always spot on. I would rather watch 100 BBTin a row than 1 American Idol.
 
2013-01-06 06:43:57 AM

theflatline: Hipster geeks are far worse than regular hipsters.


I am sick and farking tired of people calling themselves geeks who have no understanding of the word. It doesn't mean "watched some episodes of Battlestar Galactica and own an iPhone". It's about obsession. A friend of mine is an embroidery geek. As in, she has a BA in it, and is now doing a masters in it. I'm a computer geek. I don't do much sci-fi, but give me a software bug in one of half a dozen languages and I'll fix it.
 
2013-01-06 12:12:05 PM
Some people care too damn much.
 
2013-01-06 02:39:35 PM

FirstNationalBastard: So, what you're saying is that they manipulate the recorded laughter however they want it, creating a track of said laughter to suit their needs.

Why, it's almost like they're creating a LAUGH TRACK.


Except that isnt what they're doing at all.
 
2013-01-06 03:10:42 PM
You know what would really be a horrible idea? Trying to make a comedy sitcom that accurately depicts real life geeks. I doubt there would be enough material to make a pilot.
 
2013-01-06 04:08:40 PM

red5ish: You know what would really be a horrible idea? Trying to make a comedy sitcom that accurately depicts real life geeks. I doubt there would be enough material to make a pilot.


Closest might have been "Freaks & Geeks" and "The IT Crowd". Both great shows; both orders of magnitude better than BBT.
 
2013-01-06 04:13:02 PM

retarded: That show sucks.


I thought "retarded" was your Fark handle. Didn't realize it was literal.
 
2013-01-07 08:40:19 AM

Son of Thunder: Funbags: Oh look, its this thread again, wherein nerds defend a show pandering to what non-nerds think nerds are like.

My nerd cred:
Wrote a Star Trek fan fiction novel
Spoke Klingon to Michael Dorn
Dressed daughter up as Yoda for HWeen
PhD
Published researcher
Has Lenier figure autographed by JMS
Has both bat'leth and d'k tahg hanging over my office desk
Ragequit Spider-Man over the clone saga
Writing a scholarly book chapter on the psychology of A Song of Ice and Fire
Wrote a paper on Firefly and the psychology of religion
Sang babies to sleep with Jonathan Coulton numbers
Regularly hosts MST3k nights
Named a child after a Firefly character (not telling you which)
Married an equally-nerdy woman (they do exist and they're awesome)

I farking LOVE Big Bang Theory. Mrs Thunder and I refer to the show as "Our People" and laugh our butts off. Don't like it? Dislodge the stick from your colon and you might start finding it enjoyable.


Welcome to my favorites list.

=]
 
2013-01-07 11:34:40 AM

PanicMan: Listen. Because of this show millions of people have a better idea of what it's like to be one of us internet/science/gamer/introvert type people. Even if you don't think the show is funny (which I usually do), isn't that an accomplishment in its self? Maybe a few parents will see them playing D&D and realize it's just a game and not witchcraft. Maybe some kids will want to become theoretical physicists. Just because you knew what Schrodinger's cat is about before the show doesn't mean the rest of America did. People are learning and having fun doing it . How can you hate on that?


It's helped my Husband and I out a bit. We met online via World of Warcraft. Usually I tell people we met "through friends" but I'm immigrating to another country and we have to be 100% truthful. I was worried that this would be considered "weird" and immigration officials may put us under the microscope.

Thankfully, after telling our story, our 55 years old lawyer who can barely work a computer turns to us and goes "OH! Just like on BBT when Penny got addicted to that game!"
 
2013-01-07 11:45:40 AM

Blues_X: Sans the laugh track.


Fascinating.....

When you take a show and edit out part of it to make it look bad the show looks bad.

I bet if you poured water on them they would get wet to.

/ Your newsletter, I would like to subscribe to it.
 
2013-01-07 11:49:27 AM

Popcorn Johnny: So what's the popular show with Farkers, Portlandia?


Trick question.

Any show that gets popular will, by definition, bring out the hipster dopes who are too cool to like anything popular and too insecure to shut up about it.

For example: "I don't even OWN a TV, but I saw this show ONCE at a friend's house and it makes me weep for the state of our nation."

You know, assholes.
 
2013-01-07 11:53:23 AM

Funbags: Oh look, its this thread again, wherein nerds defend a show pandering to what non-nerds think nerds are like.


I think it provides a lens that allows "true geeks" to understand how non-geeks sometimes see them. It's an exaggeration to illuminate an aspect of the truth and in the service of humor.

Also, ruthless realism would ruin ANY comedy. Do you really think M*A*S*H is a realistic portrayal of military service for doctors?
 
2013-01-07 12:17:27 PM

SpectroBoy: Funbags: Oh look, its this thread again, wherein nerds defend a show pandering to what non-nerds think nerds are like.

I think it provides a lens that allows "true geeks" to understand how non-geeks sometimes see them. It's an exaggeration to illuminate an aspect of the truth and in the service of humor.

Also, ruthless realism would ruin ANY comedy. Do you really think M*A*S*H is a realistic portrayal of military service for doctors?


I've heard, from people in their respective fields, that "Scrubs" and "Reno 911" were pretty close to reality, at least thematically.
 
2013-01-07 01:19:12 PM

SpectroBoy: I think it provides a lens that allows "true geeks" to understand how non-geeks sometimes see them. It's an exaggeration to illuminate an aspect of the truth and in the service of humor.


I got bad news for ya. Geeks arent some big mystery. We know and understand you guys. It isnt hard.
 
2013-01-07 02:14:58 PM

Maestro1701: retarded: That show sucks.

I thought "retarded" was your Fark handle. Didn't realize it was literal.


NERDRAGE
 
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