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(The New York Times)   Science shows that people tend to know more about how different the past is from the present than how much the present will differ from the future. You may want to read the preceding sentence a few times, since it's so mindblowing and unexpected   (nytimes.com) divider line 41
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2013-01-05 12:39:37 PM  
So, you're saying that Back to the Future did a better job predicting 1955 than 2015? Huh, imagine that.

/sad we don't have fax machines in every room.
//not really.
 
2013-01-05 12:44:17 PM  
Obvious things are obvious.

/Also, thanks for linking to a site that requires a login, hence I DNRTFA.
 
2013-01-05 12:47:19 PM  

largedon: Obvious things are obvious.

/Also, thanks for linking to a site that requires a login, hence I DNRTFA.


People on Fark read articles?
 
2013-01-05 12:48:20 PM  
Yet those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
 
2013-01-05 12:50:59 PM  

largedon: Obvious things are obvious.

/Also, thanks for linking to a site that requires a login, hence I DNRTFA.


Or you could just delete the login part and read the article.

Subby is still an idiot because the headline doesn't relate to the content of the study.
 
2013-01-05 12:57:27 PM  
The sentence was not confusing at all.

I haven't seen Looper yet. Maybe this is a sign that it's not as amazing as everyone says it is.
 
2013-01-05 12:58:10 PM  
This study was funded by the N.S. Sherlock Foundation for the Blindingly Obvious.
 
2013-01-05 12:59:05 PM  
Sandimashighschoolfootballrules!
 
2013-01-05 01:06:48 PM  
Why You Won't Be the Person You Expect to Be
By JOHN TIERNEY

When we remember our past selves, they seem quite different. We know how much our personalities and tastes have changed over the years. But when we look ahead, somehow we expect ourselves to stay the same, a team of psychologists said Thursday, describing research they conducted of people's self-perceptions.

They called this phenomenon the "end of history illusion," in which people tend to "underestimate how much they will change in the future." According to their research, which involved more than 19,000 people ages 18 to 68, the illusion persists from teenage years into retirement.

"Middle-aged people - like me - often look back on our teenage selves with some mixture of amusement and chagrin," said one of the authors, Daniel T. Gilbert, a psychologist at Harvard. "What we never seem to realize is that our future selves will look back and think the very same thing about us. At every age we think we're having the last laugh, and at every age we're wrong."

Other psychologists said they were intrigued by the findings, published Thursday in the journal Science, and were impressed with the amount of supporting evidence. Participants were asked about their personality traits and preferences - their favorite foods, vacations, hobbies and bands - in years past and present, and then asked to make predictions for the future. Not surprisingly, the younger people in the study reported more change in the previous decade than did the older respondents.

But when asked to predict what their personalities and tastes would be like in 10 years, people of all ages consistently played down the potential changes ahead.

Thus, the typical 20-year-old woman's predictions for her next decade were not nearly as radical as the typical 30-year-old woman's recollection of how much she had changed in her 20s. This sort of discrepancy persisted among respondents all the way into their 60s.

And the discrepancy did not seem to be because of faulty memories, because the personality changes recalled by people jibed quite well with independent research charting how personality traits shift with age. People seemed to be much better at recalling their former selves than at imagining how much they would change in the future.

Why? Dr. Gilbert and his collaborators, Jordi Quoidbach of Harvard and Timothy D. Wilson of the University of Virginia, had a few theories, starting with the well-documented tendency of people to overestimate their own wonderfulness.

"Believing that we just reached the peak of our personal evolution makes us feel good," Dr. Quoidbach said. "The 'I wish that I knew then what I know now' experience might give us a sense of satisfaction and meaning, whereas realizing how transient our preferences and values are might lead us to doubt every decision and generate anxiety."

Or maybe the explanation has more to do with mental energy: predicting the future requires more work than simply recalling the past. "People may confuse the difficulty of imagining personal change with the unlikelihood of change itself," the authors wrote in Science.

The phenomenon does have its downsides, the authors said. For instance, people make decisions in their youth - about getting a tattoo, say, or a choice of spouse - that they sometimes come to regret.

And that illusion of stability could lead to dubious financial expectations, as the researchers showed in an experiment asking people how much they would pay to see their favorite bands.

When asked about their favorite band from a decade ago, respondents were typically willing to shell out $80 to attend a concert of the band today. But when they were asked about their current favorite band and how much they would be willing to spend to see the band's concert in 10 years, the price went up to $129. Even though they realized that favorites from a decade ago like Creed or the Dixie Chicks have lost some of their luster, they apparently expect Coldplay and Rihanna to blaze on forever.

"The end-of-history effect may represent a failure in personal imagination," said Dan P. McAdams, a psychologist at Northwestern who has done separate research into the stories people construct about their past and future lives. He has often heard people tell complex, dynamic stories about the past but then make vague, prosaic projections of a future in which things stay pretty much the same.

Dr. McAdams was reminded of a conversation with his 4-year-old daughter during the craze for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the 1980s. When he told her they might not be her favorite thing one day, she refused to acknowledge the possibility. But later, in her 20s, she confessed to him that some part of her 4-year-old mind had realized he might be right.

"She resisted the idea of change, as it dawned on her at age 4, because she could not imagine what else she would ever substitute for the Turtles," Dr. McAdams said. "She had a sneaking suspicion that she would change, but she couldn't quite imagine how, so she stood with her assertion of continuity. Maybe something like this goes on with all of us."

/not subby
 
2013-01-05 01:10:37 PM  
Nonsense.
I can predict the future with uncanny accuracy.

Just don't ask me to predict more than a minute or two ahead.
 
2013-01-05 01:14:40 PM  

I'm Hungry!: Yet those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.


Is this about Alzheimer's or is it about Alzheimer's?
 
2013-01-05 01:21:37 PM  
Everything is different, but the same... things are more moderner than before... bigger, and yet smaller... it's computers... San Dimas High School football rules!
 
2013-01-05 01:33:10 PM  
Judging by the Politics Tab, people are worse about remembering the past as they are at guessing about the future.
 
2013-01-05 01:41:27 PM  
Please log in. :|
 
2013-01-05 01:47:39 PM  

I'm Hungry!: Yet those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.


Those who cannot remember the future are condemned to live it.
 
2013-01-05 01:49:59 PM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
"Quit, quit do not? Noodles, noodles do not? Too concerned are you about what was and what will be. Saying there is: yesterday history is, tomorrow mystery is, but today gift is. That is why present it is called."
 
2013-01-05 01:55:07 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Nonsense.
I can predict the future with uncanny accuracy.

Just don't ask me to predict more than a minute or two ahead.


you must do great at roulette
 
2013-01-05 02:10:05 PM  
Headline sounds like something that 3 named guy Tyson somethingsomething that so many Farkers like to fellate would say.
 
2013-01-05 02:14:14 PM  
It's an interesting phenomenon, we know the past was different, we marvel at how various things have changed between then and now. But when it comes to thinking of the future, our minds have a hard time thinking things will change just as much.
 
2013-01-05 02:20:25 PM  
Is this a thread where all the delusional middle-aged guys chime in and say how much better they are now than in their 20s? Fitter, stronger, faster, smarter, etc?
/Is this why the Olympics is filled with middle-aged people?
//I don't think there is a medal for "balding"
 
2013-01-05 02:25:17 PM  
wait.. its easier to tell the difference between two knowns than a known and unknown?

images.abajournal.com
 
2013-01-05 02:29:32 PM  
www.chillinpanda.com
 
2013-01-05 02:40:48 PM  

poisonedpawn78: wait.. its easier to tell the difference between two knowns than a known and unknown?

[images.abajournal.com image 250x167]


We know what we know.
 
2013-01-05 02:43:27 PM  

wildcardjack: [www.chillinpanda.com image 600x349]


That one was right about the corsets, but the motorized rollerskates were around by the mid 1970s
 
2013-01-05 02:45:23 PM  

John Buck 41: Headline sounds like something that 3 named guy Tyson somethingsomething that so many Farkers like to fellate would say.


That sentence gave me whiplash.
 
2013-01-05 02:54:37 PM  

FloydA: John Buck 41: Headline sounds like something that 3 named guy Tyson somethingsomething that so many Farkers like to fellate would say.

That sentence gave me whiplash.


Yeah, it was a little awkward. Wasn't my intent, though. I blame bourbon.
 
2013-01-05 02:59:24 PM  

John Buck 41:  I blame bourbon.


Always a reasonable excuse.   Obligatory quote
 
2013-01-05 02:59:28 PM  
www.myfacewhen.net
 
2013-01-05 03:37:50 PM  

WhyteRaven74: It's an interesting phenomenon, we know the past was different, we marvel at how various things have changed between then and now. But when it comes to thinking of the future, our minds have a hard time thinking things will change just as much.


Because if we could, we'd change to future person. Or become Dr. Manhattan, I forget which.
 
2013-01-05 03:54:51 PM  

wildcardjack: [www.chillinpanda.com image 600x349]


I used to think those predictions of fashion were way off.

Now I realize they just predicted hipsters.
 
2013-01-05 04:09:54 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: wildcardjack: [www.chillinpanda.com image 600x349]

I used to think those predictions of fashion were way off.

Now I realize they just predicted hipsters.


Steampunk
 
2013-01-05 04:35:39 PM  

FloydA: John Buck 41:  I blame bourbon.

Always a reasonable excuse.   Obligatory quote


Not a Simpsons fan, but I like the sentiment.
 
2013-01-05 05:02:44 PM  
Hey look, a strawman headline!
 
2013-01-05 05:59:19 PM  
Well.

This is all awkward...

I was going to submit this with "Scientists determine that people are better at predicting the past than remembering the future," but I won't know about this story for a few more weeks.

Can't wait to read it anyway.
 
2013-01-05 07:58:50 PM  
Just made this yesterday. People walked more in the past. (What they call here, "Taking the number 11 bus")
fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-01-05 09:10:07 PM  

0Icky0: Just made this yesterday. People walked more in the past. (What they call here, "Taking the number 11 bus")
[fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net image 611x960]


That's a very moving image!  Thank you for posting that.
 
2013-01-05 09:44:01 PM  
i predict the future will become gheyer at an ever increasing rate.

unless we discover a magic new source of energy or technology or something.

this country is ghey now.
 
2013-01-06 12:41:49 AM  

FloydA: That's a very moving image!  Thank you for posting that.


You're welcome. I only wish I could do more here.
I have a whole lot of old images of Hong Kong, but there are few places where you can stand in the footprints of the original photographer and still see your target.
 
2013-01-06 07:01:39 AM  
The last time I watched the original Star Trek series, I got a kick out of how they had a transporter, force fields, etc., but all of their digital readouts were wheels with numbers on them, like a 1965 clock radio.
 
2013-01-06 03:45:12 PM  
I will pay more for something I want now than something I wanted ten years ago.
 
2013-01-06 07:41:16 PM  
Humans will not exist.
 
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