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(Entertainment Weekly)   "At this point, maybe Leatherface deserves his own sitcom, or even his own kiddie show, where he could chainsaw Barney and Elmo as a demonstration of how not to play with others"   (ew.com) divider line 27
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2013-01-05 01:45:43 PM
Yes, let's keep doing terrible remakes of classic horror movies. What's Rob Zombie up to these days?
 
2013-01-05 02:01:27 PM
Watch Tucker and Dale vs. Evil instead.
 
2013-01-05 02:36:18 PM
This remake looks as retarded as the others, but at least it has Alexandria Daddario in it. She's pretty much perfect.
 
2013-01-05 02:39:40 PM
Certainly went in a...different direction at the end, lol.  And even with the usual dropoff, it'll debut #1 in the low 20s this weekend.  Sequel like a motherfarker.
 
2013-01-05 02:43:12 PM

farkingismybusiness: This remake looks as retarded as the others, but at least it has Alexandria Daddario in it. She's pretty much perfect.


That's pretty much the only reason I'm gonna see it.

TCM 2 is still the best.
 
2013-01-05 02:44:00 PM
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The Jessica Biel one had some nice moments.
 
2013-01-05 03:03:26 PM

Sybarite: Yes, let's keep doing terrible remakes of classic horror movies. What's Rob Zombie up to these days?


Hopefully, something in the Firefly family canon.
 
2013-01-05 03:06:39 PM
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2013-01-05 03:27:20 PM

thamike: Watch Tucker and Dale vs. Evil instead.

Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon

is an interesting subversion of slashers as well.
 
2013-01-05 03:30:51 PM
Well he does have his own Atari game
 
2013-01-05 04:19:07 PM

BATMANATEE: thamike: Watch Tucker and Dale vs. Evil instead.

Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon is an interesting subversion of slashers as well.


Thanks, I'll have to check that out.  Also, see: Cabin in the Woods.
 
2013-01-05 04:27:05 PM
Why do people watch this garbage?
 
2013-01-05 04:32:31 PM

Max Awesome: Why do people watch this garbage?


Slasher films, or awful remakes?
 
2013-01-05 05:41:46 PM

robsul82: Certainly went in a...different direction at the end, lol.  And even with the usual dropoff, it'll debut #1 in the low 20s this weekend.  Sequel like a motherfarker.


I have a suspicion that it's at number one right now only because the run time is half as much as The Hobbit, Django, and Les Mis.

It'll have a good weekend, then sink like a stone. Bad thing is, though, I'm sure another sequel has already gotten the green light.
 
2013-01-05 06:38:45 PM
It's a sequel, not a goddamn remake.

There. That's the best defence I can give it. I've read a few reviews that described it perfectly: it was like a bigger budget fan film. If you're a legitimate Texas Chainsaw Massacre fan, it has some really great ideas and real reverence for the original. However, it was all fleshed out and made by people who were dramatically out of their depth on a talent level. Going back and doing a sequel to the original isn't a bad idea since the series kind of went wildly off the tracks continuity-wise with TCM 3 (and Tobe Hooper killed the entire family at the end of Part 2). The thing was filled with characters doing things that those characters, as established, would never do, the big set piece in the middle (the carnival) went nowhere and should have been dropped... it was just so amateurly sloppy. There were mistakes that even a first-timer with no formal training would make, assuming they were simply competent. Twisted Pictures and Lionsgate should have taken the barebones pitch (girl inherits house, discovers she's a part of the Sawyer family and Leatherface is hiding in the basement) and handed it to someone that knew what they were doing to run with it. I'm not even opposed to another sequel that takes off from this one, just so long as it's given to someone who knows what they're doing.

Oh, and when the post-converted 3D footage from the original looks infinitely better and more 3Dish than the bland, flat new footage shot on a 3D camera, time to just ditch the gimmic.

/Gots me a thing for Alexandria Daddario now.
//Almost got to see them tig ol' bitties fly free at the end there.
 
2013-01-05 09:37:35 PM
The original TCM is one of my favorite movies of all time. OF ALL TIME. I think #2 is pretty brilliant too, just in a wildly different way.

All the rest hurt my brain.
 
2013-01-05 09:57:56 PM
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Yes, but have you watched "Texas Chainsaw Massacre"... IN 3D?

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Yes, but have you watched "Monsters, Inc"... IN 3D?

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Yes, but have you watched "Fright Night"... IN 3D?

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Yes, but have you watched "Conan the Barbarian"... IN 3D?
 
2013-01-05 10:44:14 PM
Actually, remaking slasher classics with a budget and better tech is about the ONLY excuse to do a remake I'll accept.
 
2013-01-05 11:06:12 PM

Smackledorfer: Actually, remaking slasher classics with a budget and better tech is about the ONLY excuse to do a remake I'll accept.


It didn't help with any of the TCM remakes.

The first one worked in part because they had no money. Since they couldn't afford gore effects, Hooper had to figure out how to shoot it in ways that the audience thought they saw something much worse than they actually did.

Limitations force filmmakers to solve problems with creativity instead of just throwing money at it. Jaws would have sucked if the production would have had enough money to wait for the shark to get fixed.
 
2013-01-05 11:16:06 PM
*sigh*

We don't WANT TO KNOW the reasons our mad killers became mad killers, okay? Nobody cares why Mike Meyers is going after his sister, and nobody gives a shiat about Freddy's troubled childhood, and we really didn't care that Hannibal Lecter was raised on human entrails during WWII. And now we won't care that Leatherface is really just avenging the unjust murder of his misunderstood clan.

If you want to make a gorefest or a torture porn flick, do it. Don't pretend you're finding some feeble justification for all the chainsawing and razor-wire filled rooms. Crazed killers are crazed killers. Stop pretending they're really just like everyone else. Even Norman Bates wasn't normal.
 
2013-01-05 11:49:31 PM

stoli n coke: Smackledorfer: Actually, remaking slasher classics with a budget and better tech is about the ONLY excuse to do a remake I'll accept.

It didn't help with any of the TCM remakes.

The first one worked in part because they had no money. Since they couldn't afford gore effects, Hooper had to figure out how to shoot it in ways that the audience thought they saw something much worse than they actually did.

Limitations force filmmakers to solve problems with creativity instead of just throwing money at it. Jaws would have sucked if the production would have had enough money to wait for the shark to get fixed.


Good point. I wasn't justifying a sacrifice of creative direction to get the superior effects.
 
2013-01-06 12:41:41 PM

Gyrfalcon: We don't WANT TO KNOW the reasons our mad killers became mad killers, okay? Nobody cares why Mike Meyers is going after his sister,


I'll go to my grave saying The Devil's Rejects was the best American horror film of the 2000s, but how Rob Zombie farked up "Michael came from a perfectly average home with perfectly average parents who loved him and cared for him like any normal parents and became the personification of evil anyway" in favor of "he's white trash with a drunk daddy and a whore mommy like any serial killer on American Justice" I'll never understand.  One makes the audience of perfectly average people squirm, the other makes them relax because they'd never do that to their kids so they're safe, etc.

Gyrfalcon: and nobody gives a shiat about Freddy's troubled childhood,


I actually thought the remake was going in an interesting direction with "Freddy got McMartin'd," and then they biatched out of it with "well, it's not REALLY right that a vigilante mob burned him alive, but it turns out he WAS a total pervert, so yeah..."

Gyrfalcon: And now we won't care that Leatherface is really just avenging the unjust murder of his misunderstood clan.


Especially when they were butchering and eating people to begin with, lol.  Wow.
 
2013-01-06 01:08:38 PM

robsul82: Rob Zombie farked up "Michael came from a perfectly average home with perfectly average parents who loved him and cared for him like any normal parents and became the personification of evil anyway" in favor of "he's white trash with a drunk daddy and a whore mommy like any serial killer on American Justice" I'll never understand.


My problem with it is that it just wasn't scary.  Mike Myers didn't need a reason, a face, or a back story.  That's what made the original effectively thrilling.
 
2013-01-06 03:45:20 PM

robsul82: I actually thought the remake was going in an interesting direction with "Freddy got McMartin'd," and then they biatched out of it with "well, it's not REALLY right that a vigilante mob burned him alive, but it turns out he WAS a total pervert, so yeah..."


Sad thing is, they actually went with the whole Freddy Didn't Do It thing in an earlier draft. It was originally the guy that Clancy Brown played, which is why he was so overly gung-ho about getting Freddy. He was a real dirty, manipulating prick and suckered Nancy's psychologist mom into figuring out how to suppress the kids' memories and, if they were to remember, they would have remembered it as Freddy doing the molesting. Michael Bay thought that would be too complicated (apparently his only real contribution despite being a "hands on" producer) and had them rewrite it to what we saw.

Gyrfalcon: And now we won't care that Leatherface is really just avenging the unjust murder of his misunderstood clan.


You're giving them too much credit. That was never given as a justification for what Leatherface was doing and Dreyton Sawyer's chunk of the family (him, Leatherface, the Hitchhiker and Grandpa) was never portrayed as "misunderstood". Nothing about this was an attempt to explain why Leatherface does what he does. Portraying the Mayor and his mob as villains was one of those things that I was talking about that was handled so unbelievably poorly. It was nothing more than an attempt to force a twist ending. It would have been more interesting to give Heather a moral quandary: both sides are evil, and only one will prevail. She's only getting out with the help of one or the other, but they need her help first. Which one does she help? Which side is she going to dirty her hands with to survive? Instead they pissed it away. They wasted a nice setup because from the second we meet both her, then the Mayor, we know exactly where Heather's story is going to go. Lock me in a room with this script, three cases of Coca-Cola, an endless supply of In n Out and a bottomless beer tap and within two days I'll hammer out an infinitely better screenplay using the existing premise that is a worthy sequel to the original. Instead, they went with the guy who wrote Jason Goes To Hell: The Final Friday.
 
2013-01-06 06:21:49 PM

thamike: robsul82: Rob Zombie farked up "Michael came from a perfectly average home with perfectly average parents who loved him and cared for him like any normal parents and became the personification of evil anyway" in favor of "he's white trash with a drunk daddy and a whore mommy like any serial killer on American Justice" I'll never understand.

My problem with it is that it just wasn't scary.  Mike Myers didn't need a reason, a face, or a back story.  That's what made the original effectively thrilling.


Well, yeah, that too.  Wasn't frightening in the least and totally insulting to the character.

Jizz Master Zero: Sad thing is, they actually went with the whole Freddy Didn't Do It thing in an earlier draft. It was originally the guy that Clancy Brown played, which is why he was so overly gung-ho about getting Freddy. He was a real dirty, manipulating prick and suckered Nancy's psychologist mom into figuring out how to suppress the kids' memories and, if they were to remember, they would have remembered it as Freddy doing the molesting. Michael Bay thought that would be too complicated (apparently his only real contribution despite being a "hands on" producer) and had them rewrite it to what we saw.


Awesome.  Farking Michael Bay.
 
2013-01-06 07:13:35 PM
A sitcom based on Leatherface? That is stupid... But could be hilarious. Possible title: Leave It To Leather.

Also, Barney vs Leatherface would be awesome!
 
2013-01-07 01:15:40 AM
You left out Darth Vader.

Lecter was perfect as a villain when he was a bug in a jar. An evil genie; your imagination could conjure up all the awful things he was capable of if ever set free. What he WOULD do is perfectly tedious to film.

The greatest line in Halloween was "it was the boogie man, wasn't it?" "Yes, it was."

I liked Django Unchained better because there wasn't any part "explaining" why DiCaprio was such a cruel slave master. He was just a wicked dick with no redeeming qualities. This is just fine in a certain kind of movie.

Leave it to other films to explore the shades of grey. Many times, explain the back story of a villain leave me feeling like the Joker from Batman Beyond:return of the Joker. Utterly disappointed. (Underneath the Sturm and batarang is just a little boy crying for mommy and daddy)
 
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