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(Fox News)   Arizona wants to ban fake identities on the internet, haven't thought their cunning plan all the way through considering the sheer amount of Derp their state spews upon the world would now have their names attached to it   (foxnews.com) divider line 86
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2013-01-05 01:16:12 PM

Cornelius Dribble: Most news outlets refuse to provide external links. The bottom line trumps informing the public every time.


qft
 
2013-01-05 01:16:35 PM
Glad I don't live in Arizona. Forum-based roleplaying is a favorite pastime of mine.
 
2013-01-05 01:18:37 PM

blatz514: Fark is doomed!!


this
 
2013-01-05 01:20:30 PM
Funny to see so many people commenting when it is obvious they didn't RTFA.

Arizona doesn't want to ban anonymity, they want to ban impersonation.  A lot of what this law hopes to accomplish is probably already covered by existing defamation laws, since many people who impersonate online probably do so with sinister motive.  The only added benefit I could see with this is that it prevents cyber-squatters.
 
2013-01-05 01:23:59 PM

Dinjiin: Funny to see so many people commenting when it is obvious they didn't RTFA.

Arizona doesn't want to ban anonymity, they want to ban impersonation.  A lot of what this law hopes to accomplish is probably already covered by existing defamation laws, since many people who impersonate online probably do so with sinister motive.  The only added benefit I could see with this is that it prevents cyber-squatters.


How many boobies does it take to boobie the boobies I boobied?

/take that, filter
 
2013-01-05 01:25:23 PM
Yes, let's "ban" something (here, 1st amendment freedoms) to increase our feeling of "safety". This is a condition one man considered, about 230 years ago:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Welcome to America...land of the pathetically weak, home of the pants-pissing-scared-sh*tless citizenry.

Remember the America that stormed the beaches of Normandy? Basically landing on a wide, sandy beach - no concealment - taking out Nazi machine-gun nests and the like. We won World Wars...and were also the wealthiest nation in the world. And we built stuff. Good stuff.

And now? We're literally so scared sh*tless - as a country - an 8-year-old gets - LITERALLY - suspended from school for creating a "gun" with his fingers. A shoebox left on a park bench can - LITERALLY - be cause for evacuating entire city blocks.

These "people you've put in charge" have ruined us financially - they can't do on a national scale what are basic, common-sense budgeting principles for ones' home budget. We're a 2nd-rate power in the world as we're getting softer, more scared, less educated, we don't make anything and our health-care is so broken as to resemble an abuse of human rights.

WTF happened to you people?! Now you have public libraries banning books - which the decision-makers never even read. The imaginations of kids are now becoming illegal...un-supervised play is seen as savagery. YOUR laziness regarding eating is the reason corporations now could be in violation of the law for serving you a "large" drink. Now people are screaming about "assault weapons" (?!) when handguns are responsible for 99% + of gun violence (I have data to back this up). The loudness of the voices seem to be perfectly and positively related to the amount of ignorance, which...being willful, is actually stupidity.
 
2013-01-05 01:26:11 PM

L.D. Ablo: Yuma, here!

Arizona is embarrassing, but a lot of the problem is going to die off in the next 10-20 years.  Most people I know who are under 55-60 are not Republicans and there are lots of Hispanics.  The state should turn blue when the angry old people buy the rancho.

I don't like many of the old people around here.  Many are rude, inconsiderate and feel entitled.  They will cut lines, drive pretending that no one else exists, and will do things like interrupt your order at the counter to make demands on the clerk.  These are not kindly old grannies.  They're assholes and they vote like it.

They can't die soon enough.  It makes me want to secretly add cholesterol to the water supply or something.


Wow, you sound like a complete racist twat. I live in Chandler and old people here don't act like that.
 
2013-01-05 01:27:27 PM
Doesn't everyone use a fake name generator?
 
2013-01-05 01:29:52 PM
I have not yet heard how they plan to determine who owns the rights to a name when many many many many many people share the exact same names.
 
2013-01-05 01:35:20 PM

DS1970: Yes, let's "ban" something (here, 1st amendment freedoms) to increase our feeling of "safety". This is a condition one man considered, about 230 years ago:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Welcome to America...land of the pathetically weak, home of the pants-pissing-scared-sh*tless citizenry.

Remember the America that stormed the beaches of Normandy? Basically landing on a wide, sandy beach - no concealment - taking out Nazi machine-gun nests and the like. We won World Wars...and were also the wealthiest nation in the world. And we built stuff. Good stuff.

And now? We're literally so scared sh*tless - as a country - an 8-year-old gets - LITERALLY - suspended from school for creating a "gun" with his fingers. A shoebox left on a park bench can - LITERALLY - be cause for evacuating entire city blocks.

These "people you've put in charge" have ruined us financially - they can't do on a national scale what are basic, common-sense budgeting principles for ones' home budget. We're a 2nd-rate power in the world as we're getting softer, more scared, less educated, we don't make anything and our health-care is so broken as to resemble an abuse of human rights.

WTF happened to you people?! Now you have public libraries banning books - which the decision-makers never even read. The imaginations of kids are now becoming illegal...un-supervised play is seen as savagery. YOUR laziness regarding eating is the reason corporations now could be in violation of the law for serving you a "large" drink. Now people are screaming about "assault weapons" (?!) when handguns are responsible for 99% + of gun violence (I have data to back this up). The loudness of the voices seem to be perfectly and positively related to the amount of ignorance, which...being willful, is actually stupidity.


Welcome to my favorites list
 
2013-01-05 01:42:10 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-05 01:46:02 PM

DS1970: Yes, let's "ban" something (here, 1st amendment freedoms) to increase our feeling of "safety". This is a condition one man considered, about 230 years ago:

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Welcome to America...land of the pathetically weak, home of the pants-pissing-scared-sh*tless citizenry.

Remember the America that stormed the beaches of Normandy? Basically landing on a wide, sandy beach - no concealment - taking out Nazi machine-gun nests and the like. We won World Wars...and were also the wealthiest nation in the world. And we built stuff. Good stuff.

And now? We're literally so scared sh*tless - as a country - an 8-year-old gets - LITERALLY - suspended from school for creating a "gun" with his fingers. A shoebox left on a park bench can - LITERALLY - be cause for evacuating entire city blocks.

These "people you've put in charge" have ruined us financially - they can't do on a national scale what are basic, common-sense budgeting principles for ones' home budget. We're a 2nd-rate power in the world as we're getting softer, more scared, less educated, we don't make anything and our health-care is so broken as to resemble an abuse of human rights.

WTF happened to you people?! Now you have public libraries banning books - which the decision-makers never even read. The imaginations of kids are now becoming illegal...un-supervised play is seen as savagery. YOUR laziness regarding eating is the reason corporations now could be in violation of the law for serving you a "large" drink. Now people are screaming about "assault weapons" (?!) when handguns are responsible for 99% + of gun violence (I have data to back this up). The loudness of the voices seem to be perfectly and positively related to the amount of ignorance, which...being willful, is actually stupidity.


That's one way of looking at it.  Another is that America has spent about half of a millennium slowly dragging its ass out of the puritanical hole it was founded on, but some people are so out of touch they can only see what is presented to them, so every setback is seen as a completely new item in an increasing trend as opposed to the reality, which is for every giant leap forward, there are a few brambles that catch on the pantlegs of progress.  Sometimes, it happens more often than desired, but in the complete timeline, America has progressed and continues to do so despite massive attempts by a regressive segment of the population.
 
2013-01-05 01:54:51 PM
Who would want to impersonate somebody on the internet?
 
2013-01-05 01:55:20 PM
To: State Rep. Michelle Ugenti
From: Adam Clayton Powell's Left Little Toenail:

Trim me.
 
2013-01-05 02:08:38 PM
My unskewed statistical analysis of the current court makeup indicates that this law has a 96% chance of being upheld by the Supreme Court.
 
2013-01-05 02:12:05 PM
Because it's all those illegal immigrants pretending to be trolls on the internet that are causing a problem?
 
2013-01-05 02:13:07 PM

Benjamin Orr: Who would want to impersonate somebody on the internet?


Armchair warriors who think fake military credentials will somehow validate the completely incorrect sh*t they've been spewing for months.
 
2013-01-05 02:14:50 PM

Mock26: I actually have no problem with a law targeting using fake names online, but only if it targeted someone using someone else's name. The bill this woman submitted, however, would make it a crime for me to post as Mock26 if I was ever in Arizona. Fark her.


Have you read the bill? Can you point out which part says that? I'm not seeing it.

http://legiscan.com/AZ/text/HB2004/id/670151
 
2013-01-05 02:22:40 PM

propasaurus: Doesn't everyone use a fake name generator?


I tried that out and it gave me a "fake" name whose first name was my real first name.
 
2013-01-05 02:24:02 PM

Cornelius Dribble: propasaurus: Doesn't everyone use a fake name generator?

I tried that out and it gave me a "fake" name whose first name was my real first name.


Oh, and the last name was "Smith." I could have come up with that on my own.
 
2013-01-05 02:24:33 PM
Well Arizona, this is what happens when you decide that your economy should be based on serving bigoted geezers waiting to die. I'm also willing to be that you're shocked to find that they demand a shiaton of municipal services for their gated retirement communities and are unwilling to pay the taxes for them!
 
2013-01-05 02:42:42 PM
"Technology frequently outpaces lawmakers," she said. "I understand there being a concern about fraudulent behavior, but we're concerned how broad these bills are and how wide of a net they cast."

A polite way of saying lawmakers don't know shiat about technology, but they propose legislation anyway in an effort to look like they're doing something useful. I'm surprised she didn't also play the children or turrist card.
 
2013-01-05 02:59:20 PM

thamike: Benjamin Orr: Who would want to impersonate somebody on the internet?

Armchair warriors who think fake military credentials will somehow validate the completely incorrect sh*t they've been spewing for months.


I guess you are not a fan of the cars.
 
2013-01-05 03:03:22 PM
So long as the wording of this bill is precise enough to leave no room for wrong interpretation I'd be fine with it. That said I do not trust Arizona to be precise enough.
 
2013-01-05 03:05:28 PM

Benjamin Orr: thamike: Benjamin Orr: Who would want to impersonate somebody on the internet?

Armchair warriors who think fake military credentials will somehow validate the completely incorrect sh*t they've been spewing for months.

I guess you are not a fan of the cars.


ha! Not a big one, but I hadn't even looked at your handle.
 
2013-01-05 03:24:10 PM

Cornelius Dribble: So why not provide a link to the bill, so we can judge the language by ourselves?

Arizona House Bill 2004 (the number of the bill is also essential information, which the "journalists" at Fox News should have thought to include).


That might lead to the serfs coming up with independent opinions, that's strictly against FOX News policy. You are supposed to be outraged when you are told to at who you are told to. Murdoch, the Koch Brothers and such have paid good money for your ire to be directed towards politically appropriate targets, the last thing they need is people thinking for themselves.

Last time people started doing that, we had Occupy protests everywhere and it took a lot of money to pay police to crush them and the media to vilify them. Silencing dissent is expensive, so please, just think like you're told.
 
2013-01-05 03:41:10 PM
So what happens when sherriff deputies and police officers pretend to be a real 13 year old girl to entice people over the internet?
 
2013-01-05 04:13:18 PM
Hi Subby. I don't like you.

You submitted the dumbest headline ever to appear on Fark.

You also used the word derp.

I slept with your mom.
 
2013-01-05 04:16:53 PM

limeyfellow: So what happens when sherriff deputies and police officers pretend to be a real 13 year old girl to entice people over the internet?


Oops.

i915.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-05 04:41:01 PM
Someone who thinks the Internet was a novelty should not be making laws about the Internet
 
2013-01-05 04:48:46 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Because it's all those illegal immigrants pretending to be trolls on the internet that are causing a problem?

img.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-05 07:35:08 PM

skinink: I can't wait for Sheriff Arpaio to comment in this thread about his views on this law.


I'm Sheriff Arpaio and I wanna ask: What in ternation is y'all little whippersnappers talking bout? Is you done insulting me? Cause if you is I gonna kick yer ass perdner! Gotdern little hippies, stop dancing in the mud and go fight in Vietnam! I'm mad now, you little beatnecks done caused mah blood pressure to go up. Beatin up illegels should make me done feel better!
 
2013-01-05 09:49:39 PM
I think it's almost time for Arizona to get its own tag.
 
2013-01-06 12:08:06 AM

djseifer: I think it's almost time for Arizona to get its own tag.


It's been suggested for quite a while now. How many signatures does it take?
 
2013-01-06 12:53:32 AM

kombat_unit: L.D. Ablo: Yuma, here!

Arizona is embarrassing, but a lot of the problem is going to die off in the next 10-20 years.  Most people I know who are under 55-60 are not Republicans and there are lots of Hispanics.  The state should turn blue when the angry old people buy the rancho.

I don't like many of the old people around here.  Many are rude, inconsiderate and feel entitled.  They will cut lines, drive pretending that no one else exists, and will do things like interrupt your order at the counter to make demands on the clerk.  These are not kindly old grannies.  They're assholes and they vote like it.

They can't die soon enough.  It makes me want to secretly add cholesterol to the water supply or something.

Wow, you sound like a complete racist twat. I live in Chandler and old people here don't act like that.


Old isn't a race. He hates a group of people because of the way they behave. If I hated Canadians because they don't tip, that's again not racist.
Don't you look stupid?
 
2013-01-06 01:21:01 AM

kombat_unit: I live in Chandler and old people here don't act like that.


BS.  A lot of people down in Sun Lakes perfectly fit L.D. Ablo's description.  To make matters worse, many of them are flashy with their supposed wealth, so you see crap like ladies going to Safeway in their BMW while dressed in pearls and diamonds.  Pfft.  If you made that much, you'd be living around Pinnacle Peak.  Or you'd have hired help to do your shopping in Ocotillo.

After a couple of years, I got tired of the annual migration of pissy silverhairs who can't drive and moved.  So much better.
 
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