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(Reno Gazette-Journal)   You need to preregister in order to purchase with your credit card a $380 ticket to this year's Burning Man. Remember when this used to be about anti-establishment and non-conformity or something? "I love Burning Man"   (rgj.com) divider line 123
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2013-01-05 01:13:59 PM

stratagos: No one is stopping you from just driving to the goddam desert, subby, nor are they stopping you from organizing your own competing event, with all the logistical headaches and costs that entails. They also apparently offer discount tickets based on income.

If you want to play in someone else's sandbox, you play by their rules.

Quit acting like an overentitled twit if you want to be "anti-establishment"

/No real desire to go to BM
//Unless I was to get seven friends and set up a cube farm for a week, complete with motivational posters and staplers. Just to screw with people


That's a farking brilliant idea
 
2013-01-05 01:20:59 PM
Let's pretend that we could take huge amounts of unused urban area land, suck the toxins out and set up a network of local small farming collectives to help feed people. Monsanto and ConAgra wouldn't like that. They have lobbyists.

Let's pretend that we could take huge, old shells of industrial buildings and set up housing for those made homeless and add in training, education, classes, medical care facilities and previously mentioned urban farming and then feed, house and train the denizens of these micro communities to matriculate from said facility with a skill, an education and a full stomach. The list of people hose interests that wouldn't serve is too long to post here and surely, Stalin would come back from his display case crypt and haughtily laugh as we succumbed to full blown communism in no time.

Let us venture further into what is land and look at the idea of locally made art, textiles, restoration shops, and other small scale manufacturing concerns could be implemented in neighborhoods with almost no remaining commerce and distributed globally with some like, I dunno make believe, futuristic network of data and shipping hubs and provide stability and income on a manageable scale, sans all the corporate hooery.

Yeah, I know, sounds silly to me, too.
 
2013-01-05 01:25:07 PM

bunner: Let us venture further into what is if land and look at the idea of locally made art, textiles, restoration shops, and other small scale manufacturing concerns that could be implemented in neighborhoods with almost no remaining commerce


FIFMODS
 
2013-01-05 01:30:22 PM

bunner: djslowdive: Actually, these days, it does. Here's the financial report for 2011: 2011 Financial Report

Those are some very interesting numbers. I can't help but think that any given logistics and purchasing manager and a good CPA could have shaved a lot of hair off of that pig.


That sounds like the same sort of hand waving that republicans use when they say, "We can cut the excess fat from government and still provide the same services"

It may be true, but I'll believe it when someone actually points out the fat
 
2013-01-05 01:36:12 PM
The fat is as plain as the balls on a tall dog. It what grows slowly as the telephone game of "we need" goes down the chain of "well, I got to have at LEAST *pulls number out of ass* for THAT". Stir in a deadline to that and you got a pork farm. There is a Swedish word, "lagom", that is quite a compliment their culture. It means "the needs were met" or, essentially, "that what was needed was provided and there was no waste". It's sort of the antithesis of corporatism.
 
2013-01-05 01:39:07 PM

HideMonkey: cryinoutloud:
For real? No, you're pulling my leg, right?
These threads remind me of people arguing about the Grateful Dead. They were so so cool, so under the radar, then they were played out, then they were beyond your understanding, so just shut up, then they were too popular, so I don't go see them anymore, then.....well, then Garcia died. Thank god that shiat was done.
But you know, Burning Man is different from all that. Because this generation isn't anything like the ones that came before, and they have all original ideas.
You sound old.
/old


I'm still conflicted because even though I was pretty much the target demographic for the Grateful Dead, I never really cared for them. Once I was in Denver and had a chance to go see a show--I was in the parking lot, about to buy some scalped tickets, when I looked around me and though, "What am I doing here? I don't want to go in there with all these hippies and flow around for hours."

Then Garcia died about a year later. So now I am one of those people who secretly knew that the Grateful Dead sucked the whole time.

Here's a picture from one of the last Grateful Dead concerts:
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-05 01:44:55 PM
wow ... the price of the Texas State fair really shot up.
 
2013-01-05 01:45:50 PM

bunner: The fat is as plain as the balls on a tall dog. It what grows slowly as the telephone game of "we need" goes down the chain of "well, I got to have at LEAST *pulls number out of ass* for THAT".


This happens, I might add, because everybody with a shingle and an EIN is not only convinced they are always entitled to make more money than last year, NO MATTER WHAT, but that, and this is the punchline, it's actually physically possible. Ahhhhhh, hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
 
2013-01-05 01:52:49 PM


Here's a picture from one of the last Grateful Dead concerts:
[t1.gstatic.com image 227x176]

Welcome to HideMonkey's Extremely Short List of Favorites.
 
2013-01-05 01:53:41 PM
Um, not really a big enough deal to put it all in bold, but you get the gist.
 
2013-01-05 01:55:47 PM
I got nothing against a band playing the same song for an hour and a half. Sh*t, Wagner kicked large scale ass doing that. I just can't dance to that sh*t. I blame being raised on 2:45 second pop songs.
 
2013-01-05 02:01:40 PM

stratagos:
Then gee, I stand corrected. I didn't realize we had an expert among us who could tell us what it was "supposed to be about".


Are you aware that you're an idiot?
 
2013-01-05 02:07:09 PM

cryinoutloud: BarkingUnicorn: I think Burning Man jumped the shark when WiFi was added to the playa.

For real? No, you're pulling my leg, right?


There used to be something called PlayaNet, and I'm told Fusion Valley (the computer geek camp) had some limited WiFi thing going one year. Last year though there was nothing that I found, though I was on the side opposite any of the really geeky camps.

Now what they DID have was very limited cell coverage hosted on someone's jury-rigged cell tower near 4 O'clock, which routed everyone through some kind of VOIP service and handed out these weird five-digit internal "phone numbers". The broadcast range was pretty small - I was camped near 9 O'clock and had to get to about 6 O'clock before I could get any coverage - and people calling in from the outside was complicated to say the least, but you could make an outside call with reasonable success, if only to get disconnected exactly 50 seconds into the phone call. It was a godsend for me: turns out there was some unexpected legal paperwork I HAD to get signed that week and my family had been frantically trying to call me the whole time. I got the call the second-to-last day I could do the paperwork, hopped out the next day and got it signed. Would've been kinda screwed if I hadn't.

Honestly, the whole thing felt very hackjob and strange, and very fitting for Burning Man.
 
2013-01-05 02:11:56 PM

Tourney3p0: stratagos:
Then gee, I stand corrected. I didn't realize we had an expert among us who could tell us what it was "supposed to be about".

Are you aware that you're an idiot?


I am simply crushed by your disapproval of me, random internet person. Your well reasoned and compelling argument has given me cause to reexamine my entire life
 
2013-01-05 02:14:12 PM
I was going to do that, but I just made a sammich instead. I hope that's OK.
 
2013-01-05 02:18:53 PM
If I want to have my wang out while wearing a pork-pie hat, I'll saunter past a mirror.
 
2013-01-05 03:01:36 PM

semiotix: abhorrent1: Do the people who go to burning man even have money?

The median Burning Man attendee is probably wealthier than the median Farker.

You know how if you scrub the greasepaint off of a random sampling of Juggalos at their Gathering, you come up with a lot more junior management trainees and sociology grad students than you'd expect? Burning Man is the same, except with middle managers and sociology professors.

To be fair to the BM crowd (ewww) I think there's a lot less "fark the Man!" than there is "fark it, I'm 44 and I want to take mild hallucinogens and stand around naked looking at kinetic art for a weekend."

Seriously, ask about it at your next faculty meeting and see how many hands go up.


Perhaps some are entry level Telemaricorp employees.

/funniest episode of the show so far
//Faygo > Fresca
 
2013-01-05 07:07:39 PM
Same old story as usual:

Take something good, commercialize it, make it bigger and bigger---and pretty soon it sucks.

Woodstock was a great event---once. All the copies of it were worse, and some were utter failures.

Haight--Ashbury was incredible at first, until the media discovered it--at which point it went steadily downhill.

Monterrey Pop, Newport Jazz/Folk Festival---the list goes on and on.
 
2013-01-05 08:52:09 PM

stratagos: I'd call your assumption about me stupid, but I've done the same thing, so I'll just put it down the laziness


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/hot like basic proofreading
 
2013-01-05 09:12:40 PM
There certainly are a lot of reasons to go to TTITD.
Like any city of 50,000+ there is always a percentage of asshats.
 
2013-01-05 09:49:56 PM
I went to Burning Man three times. Everyone has heard of the artwork and nudity and performances and raves and shiat. But in particular the daytime education and seminars were nuts. . . Powerpoints on cock and ball torture, yoga classes, fire eating classes, seminars on how to repair and hack tube amplifiers. I took an absinthe-making intensive, at Burning Man. I learned how to solder circuits and wire LED's into a light . . . then right after that I saw a guy fisting a woman with one hand, and doing the "hang loose" sign with the other. It's a deeply strange experience.
 
2013-01-06 11:26:29 AM

occamswrist: I liked last years Burning Man that was corporate sponsored.

Burning Man brought to you by Carl's Jr!


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only 490 calories!!

(like that's the only thing you'll eat when your here) u know your gonna have a western cheesburger, and what are those other things that are good
 
2013-01-06 10:36:58 PM
$380 to see a bunch of deadbeat hippie wannabes set up "art" in their campers and be forced to bottle and truck out your own pee? Just so you can see a giant statue get torched? How many ways can I say "no farking way"?

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