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(Seattle Times)   Warm up your car while shopping? You best believe that will get you a beat down from Seattle Police   (seattletimes.com) divider line 43
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2013-01-05 10:22:28 AM
4 votes:

Lsherm: You'd think if a cop didn't want to get bitten he wouldn't shove his fingers in a detainee's mouth.  Just sayin'.


A man placed his hand in a mule's mouth to ascertain how many teeth the mule possessed.
The mule closed his mouth to find out how many fingers the man had.

Thus, the curiosity of both the man and the mule were satisfied.
2013-01-05 10:12:24 AM
4 votes:
Geez! How many times does an officer have to be judged by a jury of his peers before you people are satisfied?
2013-01-05 10:03:44 AM
3 votes:
Whitcomb conceded that Longley's abrasive demeanor likely fell short of the department's new community policing credo of "Listening and Explaining with Equity and Dignity," but added that Longley was above the law so stfu.
2013-01-05 05:01:21 PM
2 votes:

charmingkiddo: Live in Seattle.

It is NOT cold enough here to merit keeping your car running. The dude was obviously planning on stealing shiat, and him having a criminal records makes that plain as day.

Did the officers handle this well? No. But I don't believe the guy they arrested was innocent given he had left his car idling.


What do you think he was trying to steal and how far down this rabbit hole are you planning on taking us?
2013-01-05 12:51:06 PM
2 votes:

Dinjiin: hipster city or not


We need a bunch of good old rednecks up here to teach us how to live while sticking their heterosexual cocks up our skinny assholes.

I almost killed myself once when I read on Fark that I was hipster. Being in a hipster city and all. Learning the definition from old stupid men that look like women who live in Kentucky.
2013-01-05 11:50:30 AM
2 votes:

ReverendJasen: No matter how progressive a town might be, law enforcement always attracts authoritarian douchebags and bullies.



"Progressive" and "authoritarian" are not necessarily on opposite ends of the spectrum.
2013-01-05 11:39:37 AM
2 votes:

RedVentrue: Dinjiin: On par for SPD.  Not only to they "not have to be nice", they excel at it.  Never understood how such a progressive city ended up with such a Gestapo-like police force.

Progressive usually progresses into Gestapo.


Look at the nation. We are about 2 steps away from Obama having Brown Shirts.
2013-01-05 11:35:03 AM
2 votes:

Dinjiin: On par for SPD.  Not only to they "not have to be nice", they excel at it.  Never understood how such a progressive city ended up with such a Gestapo-like police force.


Progressive usually progresses into Gestapo.
SH
2013-01-05 10:25:06 AM
2 votes:
From TFA: Whitcomb said Ocak had left his car running while parked outside a store - a common ploy used by shoplifters cold people.

Article now fixed.
2013-01-05 10:08:01 AM
2 votes:
"But I would remind you that it's 2013, and we've come a long way in those two years"

....sooo we're gonna take a mulligan here -
2013-01-05 10:08:00 AM
2 votes:
Amateurs. NYPD would have just shot him.
2013-01-06 01:29:11 PM
1 votes:

RedVentrue: vygramul: RedVentrue: Madbassist1: Thunderpipes: RedVentrue: Dinjiin: On par for SPD.  Not only to they "not have to be nice", they excel at it.  Never understood how such a progressive city ended up with such a Gestapo-like police force.

Progressive usually progresses into Gestapo.

Look at the nation. We are about 2 steps away from Obama having Brown Shirts.

Lucky for us St. Reagan was way WAY more progressive than Obama, you farking troll.

Reagan didn't sign the 2013 NDAA

You mean the thing the GOP passed?

You mean the thing they both passed and Obama signed? Looks like it to me.


So it looks like both parties progress into Gestapo with their own brownshirts.

I'll be sure to visit our Fark Independents in the FEMA reeducation camps.
2013-01-05 09:40:19 PM
1 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: As a retired police officer, and I'm assuming most of the criminal apologists here have not been, this is excellent police work. His car was running, and that is a common tactic by criminals, as he is one. Suspects coming off the car when you are interviewing them, or a sudden flexing of the muscles indicates a desire to fight or run. So they put him down. And yes, he resisted arrest, and bit the police officer, and he got punched for it. He's obviously a dickhead, and anyone else in that position would just let the officers do their job, and move on. But no, he had to be a dick and resist and not comply. This was perfect police work, and if you can't see it, you have never worn a badge, or are a criminal apologist.

/high five to the officers for a job well done.


Glad you are retired.

The farkers here whom you refer to as criminal apologists are actually regular citizens who foolishly believe that the police are supposed to make the streets a safer place. The only thing to fear on the street in most situations is the police. Nobody else looking to stop and harass people day after freakin' day except the police. When the police live up to the "serve and protect" slogan, the people will adore you guys. Not that this will ever come true.

And for the record, I am a married, tax paying, law abiding business owner with zero arrests ever. But I'm not blind. I see the police state rearing its ugly head in America. Nothing to fear but our protectors anymore.

You call regular Americans criminal apologists? I call you a fascist pig. Go choke on your pension.
2013-01-05 08:49:14 PM
1 votes:

EVERYBODY PANIC: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dinjiin: On par for SPD.  Not only to they "not have to be nice", they excel at it.  Never understood how such a progressive city ended up with such a Gestapo-like police force.

You don't?? Seriously???

Hey OC. People who want to live in "progressive cities" prefer little exposure to the real world. But if anything disturbs their bubble-boy existence, they are the first ones to scream for rescue by the police. Then things escalate quickly once those guys arrive, usually to the horror of the original complaintant.

On a reality-based note... how yo getting by dude?


It's actually restful being one of the parasitical 47%. I'm beginning to like it. WORKERS OF THE WORLD, RELAX! Found ouit Friday we are definitely IN on the Section 8 subsidized housing, and we found an awesome senior apartment complex today that qualifies. Our GLORIOUS LEADER came through on the voter bribe EDD extension money, so I didn't waste my vote for him.
2013-01-05 04:24:19 PM
1 votes:

Krab: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Dinjiin: On par for SPD.  Not only to they "not have to be nice", they excel at it.  Never understood how such a progressive city ended up with such a Gestapo-like police force.

You don't?? Seriously???

+1 seems like no matter which extreme side you swing there is always a Gestapo-like police force


The "progressive" mindset 99 times out of 100 seems to revolve around the concept of the Daddy State, where government takes up the cudgel of the "little guy" against Big Bad Business. Government is seen as a wonderful tool for accomplishing virtually any task.

Graduate-level Administrative Systems and Political Science courses often look at organizations as analogs of living organisms. As with all things of an "organic" nature they either grow or die. They never just stay the same. Government, as any organization, therefore, tends to grow. In a "progressive" political atmosphere it tends to grow faster. Since government's primary reason for existing and its tool of action is the monopolistic, deliberate and measured use of force (ultimately: deadly force), the arms of government that exert that force tend to become, over time, more overbearing as their bureaucracies grow larger, and their responsibilities grow wider and wider. Also, the cops take their "cues" for action from the local perception of governmental responsibilities. IOW, badass cops in a "progressive" town are not as rare as you might think. It's a natural outgrowth of the dynamic.
2013-01-05 02:15:08 PM
1 votes:
Civilians should start carrying handcuffs for bad cops.
2013-01-05 01:22:22 PM
1 votes:
And people wonder why I hate the police.

I have yet to meet a good cop. This includes my brother. Dirty as all hell.

FTP.
2013-01-05 01:10:06 PM
1 votes:

Koodz: Between the armor, steroids, taser, stick, pepper spray, and ability to call for backup, I can see no reason for a police officer to ever PUNCH someone. Yes, hitting someone with a stick is more likely to cause injury than a punch, but there's something so visceral about balling up a fist and punching somebody in the face. It's too intimate to be a police action. Does that make sense?


perfect sense, i think what you are trying to articulate, is that a cop who punches someone, is really a guy who wants to punch someone, who happens to be a cop, but a cop who uses his baton is a cop, who is using his tools appropriately.... right? i think i know what you mean.
2013-01-05 12:56:25 PM
1 votes:

Koodz: At one point, after the officer questioned him about the number of keys on his key ring, Ocak complained, "Why are you being so rude to me?"

Longley responded: "I don't have to be nice to you."

Wait....what's the proper number of keys on a key ring? I have three. Is that too few or too many? I'd better stay out of Seattle just in case it's the wrong number.


www-static.weddingbee.com
2013-01-05 12:47:17 PM
1 votes:

duffblue: I was told by Fark liberals that the police could do no wrong and that I should turn in my guns because these brave heros will come to my rescue at the drop of a hat. It's weird there's such a huge disconnect between people like Weaver95 and reality.


Well, bless your heart.
2013-01-05 12:42:34 PM
1 votes:

Madbassist1: lack of warmth: Although, I think it has more to do with protecting the insurance companies from having to pay morans for letting their cars be stolen so easily.

95% of auto-related laws (including the new ultra-strict dui laws) are about protecting insurance companies. Believe that, friend, cause it. is. farking. true.


I do not necessarily see that as a bad thing.  Because of heavy lobbying, we have safer cars, safer roads...
2013-01-05 12:08:29 PM
1 votes:

kombat_unit: Warm up your car while shopping? Or getting ready to shoplift?


Posting on Fark? Or writing a manifesto?

See how dumb that sounds?
2013-01-05 11:58:48 AM
1 votes:
Why do you have so many keys?

See questions like that do nothing but evoke rage of the person being detained and antagonize the situation even more.  It feels like harassment at that point.
2013-01-05 11:34:47 AM
1 votes:
Watching this, I am reminded that police department screening tests eliminate applicants that score too highly.
2013-01-05 11:32:03 AM
1 votes:

duffblue: I was told by Fark liberals that the police could do no wrong and that I should turn in my guns because these brave heros will come to my rescue at the drop of a hat. It's weird there's such a huge disconnect between people like Weaver95 and reality.


That's funny. I was told by FARK gun-nuts that they were concerned about the rise of tyranny and oppression in this country, and that they wouldn't stand for it.
2013-01-05 11:23:43 AM
1 votes:

mhedstrom: These guys better not ever come to the mountains of Colorado in the winter. They'd have a whole lot of "questioning" to do with *everybody* leaving their cars running if it's a short enough period of time.


Leaving your car running unattended is a crime here in COS. Not that it deters anyone. Luckily plenty of meth heads have taken to librerating these cars from people around here. Wish they'd get around to my neighbor. I'm looking at you Mr. loud truck at 5am for 25 minutes guy.
2013-01-05 11:19:07 AM
1 votes:

Arkanaut: Amateurs. NYPD would have just shot him.



And the Chicago PD would have tortured him into confessing to every unsolved homicide in the city.
2013-01-05 11:16:11 AM
1 votes:

jmr61: I'm no police apologist but if they cops want to handcuff you and take you to jail resisting them is stupid. You will ALWAYS lose. Go to the station quietly and sort out your problems with them through a lawyer.

Idiot.


Because cops never make false accusations to justify assaulting someone. Especially not officers this describes:

four officers took Isaac Ocak to the pavement after learning he had a prior felony conviction and had been tagged in the department's computer as being "assaultive to officers." However, the department could not provide an incident in which Ocak had ever been so.


Let's just take their word for it.
2013-01-05 11:14:44 AM
1 votes:

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MerelyFoolish: Unfortunately, the law enforcement occupation attracts folks who are too stupid for business but with a bit more ambition than McDonalds employees. They are given guns and taught that they are above the law. Add to that a bit of protection money and a thorough indoctrination of which criminals are allowed to practice with impunity, and you have a bunch of thugs who are not really concerned about law enforcement.

2/10


This is approximately my experience. I was once roughly frisked by two cops because I was crossing the street at 2am (I was studying for a final and going to 7-11 for some caffeine). No other reason.

I was once almost given a ticket because I pulled out of a driveway in front a cop who was going 75 in an unmarked car with no lights in a 40 zone and he had to *gasp* slow down. He pulled me over and proceeded to tell me off.

fark those guys and every other cop in San Jose.
2013-01-05 11:10:22 AM
1 votes:
Thank heavens. Way to earn those pensions, boys.
2013-01-05 10:57:18 AM
1 votes:
Fire the cop, he has no business carrying a gun and badge. Frankly, I'm not sure he could handle a rude drive through customer at McDonalds without getting fired. But I would sure give him the opportunity to try.

/ExCop says: "You want fries with that?"
2013-01-05 10:56:39 AM
1 votes:
Pretty much always recorded somehow. Speak loudly and clearly, ask if you are under arrest. If not, you are free to go. If they get physical, do not resist, ask them why they are arresting and assaulting you. Then sue them.

One of the biggest things parents can teach their children, is their rights and how police will almost always try to abuse them.

By the way, it is completely legal to give the cops the finger, and tell them to fark off. It will enrage them, causing some beat down, but ultimately, money for you.
2013-01-05 10:54:45 AM
1 votes:
clearly police officers should be the only people with guns in America.
2013-01-05 10:54:19 AM
1 votes:
God bless our heroic boys in blue.
2013-01-05 10:50:03 AM
1 votes:

jmr61: I think some people need to RTFA:

"At the time, Ocak was being questioned and was not under arrest, according to police Sgt. Sean Whitcomb. The incident escalated when Ocak resisted the officers' attempts to handcuff him for flight and officer-safety reasons, Whitcomb said."

I'm no police apologist but if they cops want to handcuff you and take you to jail resisting them is stupid. You will ALWAYS lose. Go to the station quietly and sort out your problems with them through a lawyer.

Idiot.


"No, we're not arresting you, we just want to cuff you."
What the fark? No, I would totally not be comfortable with that. Either arrest and cuff me, or get the fark out of my face.
2013-01-05 10:47:32 AM
1 votes:

Koodz: Between the armor, steroids, taser, stick, pepper spray, and ability to call for backup, I can see no reason for a police officer to ever PUNCH someone. Yes, hitting someone with a stick is more likely to cause injury than a punch, but there's something so visceral about balling up a fist and punching somebody in the face. It's too intimate to be a police action. Does that make sense?


Especially when it was clearly in retaliation for the fingers you just purposefully crammed in to the "suspect's" mouth so he could bite you in the pointless struggle of four officers to detain an otherwise law-abiding-citizen that was already feeling threatened and intimidated by four white guys with anger issues and all the amnesty the badge allows.

/what's a "run-on sentence"?
2013-01-05 10:46:15 AM
1 votes:
Wwell, they are Democrat supporting union folks. What do you expect? That's how unions do business. Abuse power, violence, and the government backs them.
2013-01-05 10:46:02 AM
1 votes:
FTFA: ...officers' attempts to handcuff him for flight and officer-safety reasons...

So there were three gun-toting, taser-carrying, mace-sporting, body armor-wearing, baton-equipped LEOs vs. one 20 year-old smartass. And the cops tried to cuff him for their OWN safety? Oh, he was a flight risk. Yeah, because if he took off running, Chief Wiggum would be farked.

/SUSPECT IS HATLESS. I REPEAT, HATLESS.
2013-01-05 10:38:48 AM
1 votes:

stlbluez: the kid cop was a bit of a smart-ass...

2013-01-05 10:25:13 AM
1 votes:
Between the armor, steroids, taser, stick, pepper spray, and ability to call for backup, I can see no reason for a police officer to ever PUNCH someone. Yes, hitting someone with a stick is more likely to cause injury than a punch, but there's something so visceral about balling up a fist and punching somebody in the face. It's too intimate to be a police action. Does that make sense?
2013-01-05 10:19:24 AM
1 votes:
His teeth cut my knuckles as I was punching him! That counts as a bite, and retroactively justifies my punching him in the first place.

The loop is closed! Causality is preserved.

If they hadn't beaten the guy, it could have destroyed the universe!

Priorities, people.
2013-01-05 10:12:48 AM
1 votes:
According to our records, we can make stuff up about your records....
2013-01-05 10:06:37 AM
1 votes:
At one point, after the officer questioned him about the number of keys on his key ring, Ocak complained, "Why are you being so rude to me?"

Longley responded: "I don't have to be nice to you."


Wait....what's the proper number of keys on a key ring? I have three. Is that too few or too many? I'd better stay out of Seattle just in case it's the wrong number.
 
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