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2013-01-05 04:48:04 AM  
For anyone that might care, Bull Smoke e-cigs were finally my e-cig breakthrough to quitting actual smoking ( after trying three other weak-sauce e-cigs including Blues).

Their 24mg Refined Blend cartridges kick like a mule shot out of a bazooka. Three tokes off that badboy and the LAST thing you'll want is a real cigarette.
 
2013-01-05 04:50:08 AM  

entitygm: Relatively Obscure: Warrener: I've also never understood the sentiment of "tasting food" again that I've heard from so many people. Personally, I tasted food as well when I smoked a pack+ per day as I do now.

Same here.  I never noticed a difference in the taste of food.

Did anyone ever do a study on whether smokers really are better tippers or not? If it's an acquired habit, I still don't worry about percentages and give a nice amount to any server that does their job with a bit of effort


I don't know.  I didn't even know that was a thing.  I generally tip well, for not having a ton of money.
 
2013-01-05 04:50:52 AM  

PlatypusPuke: For anyone that might care, Bull Smoke e-cigs were finally my e-cig breakthrough to quitting actual smoking ( after trying three other weak-sauce e-cigs including Blues).


I tried Blus.  They looked neat.  They sucked ass.
 
2013-01-05 04:55:51 AM  

entitygm: ParagonComplex: I am a psychology major, and their comments about those with depression and psychiatric disorders is unequivocal proof that they are a bunch of nimrods. Why? Because nicotine helps tremendously with said disorders. It all has to do with brain chemistry. For whatever reason nicotine effects people with psychological disorders differently than other people. It is a common theme amongst disorders. As a matter of fact whether or not a person smokes and what it does for theme is a high indicator that something is knocking a little differently in their heads. Everything from schizophrenia to ADHD is affected by nicotine. Doesn't mean you're nuts. It just means that the benefits are more than people realize.

Is that so? I was diagnosed BPD (treated with a lithium variant ~5 years ago) Now I'm on nothing but the occasional nicotine, no symptoms of anything. Self-medicated I suppose?


Exactly. It is a form of self-medication. It really is that powerful of a drug for those with psychological disorders. Also, for those that want to be prescribed a drug to quit you can ask your doctor for Wellbutrin. It effects the same receptors that nicotine does. So much, in fact, that if you try smoking while on Wellbutrin you will get zero effect. The problem arises when you get off the drug, because there is nothing there to react with those receptors. Wellbutrin works well for those with psychological disorders because of how it effects the same receptors as nicotine does. It truly is a common theme in psychological disorders.

/Subby
 
2013-01-05 04:57:16 AM  

Relatively Obscure: PlatypusPuke: For anyone that might care, Bull Smoke e-cigs were finally my e-cig breakthrough to quitting actual smoking ( after trying three other weak-sauce e-cigs including Blues).

I tried Blus.  They looked neat.  They sucked ass.


I've been happy with GreenSmartLiving ecigarettes.  Three months and counting now.  I still have the occasional real cigarette, but I've gone from a pack a day to a pack a week (at most).
 
2013-01-05 05:01:04 AM  

OgreMagi: Relatively Obscure: PlatypusPuke: For anyone that might care, Bull Smoke e-cigs were finally my e-cig breakthrough to quitting actual smoking ( after trying three other weak-sauce e-cigs including Blues).

I tried Blus.  They looked neat.  They sucked ass.

I've been happy with GreenSmartLiving ecigarettes.  Three months and counting now.  I still have the occasional real cigarette, but I've gone from a pack a day to a pack a week (at most).


I have this big ol' eGo-T I keep around, about cigar sized, which puts out quite a potent amount of vapor.  Before that, a 510 or whatever.  Don't really need either, now, though I still enjoy nicotine from time to time.  Haven't smoked tobacco in over a year (well, one or two toward the beginning).
 
2013-01-05 05:03:44 AM  

Relatively Obscure: OgreMagi: Relatively Obscure: PlatypusPuke: For anyone that might care, Bull Smoke e-cigs were finally my e-cig breakthrough to quitting actual smoking ( after trying three other weak-sauce e-cigs including Blues).

I tried Blus.  They looked neat.  They sucked ass.

I've been happy with GreenSmartLiving ecigarettes.  Three months and counting now.  I still have the occasional real cigarette, but I've gone from a pack a day to a pack a week (at most).

I have this big ol' eGo-T I keep around, about cigar sized, which puts out quite a potent amount of vapor.  Before that, a 510 or whatever.  Don't really need either, now, though I still enjoy nicotine from time to time.  Haven't smoked tobacco in over a year (well, one or two toward the beginning).


Oh, to add before I head home, I was at about a pack and a half per day before that.
 
2013-01-05 05:04:18 AM  

twistofsin: Nicotine is as many times more farking dangerous as caffeine.

Seriously, discover cocaine instead.

/No, don't do cocaine either. Jesus.
 
2013-01-05 05:11:21 AM  
Even though I'm in the process of quitting, I really hate the radical anti-smokers.  One lady said to me (as I stood on the street smoking), "Smoking is bad for you, and second hand smoke is bad for me." I gave her a dirty look and said, "Me not smoking is downright dangerous for you."

Another time some biatch sent her little girl up to me to tell say, "your smoking is bad for me!"  So I told her (loud enough for the biatch mom to hear), "annoying complete strangers is also bad for you, yet that didn't stop you, did it?"  The girl's mom gave me the stink eye for that.
 
2013-01-05 05:45:48 AM  

ParagonComplex: entitygm: ParagonComplex: I am a psychology major, and their comments about those with depression and psychiatric disorders is unequivocal proof that they are a bunch of nimrods. Why? Because nicotine helps tremendously with said disorders. It all has to do with brain chemistry. For whatever reason nicotine effects people with psychological disorders differently than other people. It is a common theme amongst disorders. As a matter of fact whether or not a person smokes and what it does for theme is a high indicator that something is knocking a little differently in their heads. Everything from schizophrenia to ADHD is affected by nicotine. Doesn't mean you're nuts. It just means that the benefits are more than people realize.

Is that so? I was diagnosed BPD (treated with a lithium variant ~5 years ago) Now I'm on nothing but the occasional nicotine, no symptoms of anything. Self-medicated I suppose?

Exactly. It is a form of self-medication. It really is that powerful of a drug for those with psychological disorders. Also, for those that want to be prescribed a drug to quit you can ask your doctor for Wellbutrin. It effects the same receptors that nicotine does. So much, in fact, that if you try smoking while on Wellbutrin you will get zero effect. The problem arises when you get off the drug, because there is nothing there to react with those receptors. Wellbutrin works well for those with psychological disorders because of how it effects the same receptors as nicotine does. It truly is a common theme in psychological disorders.

/Subby


Wellbutrin didn't work for shiat. Chantix works. My only problem is alcohol. Alcohol inevitably leads to smoking which leads to buying a pack which leads to smoking a cigarette the next morning.
 
2013-01-05 05:47:05 AM  

OgreMagi: Even though I'm in the process of quitting, I really hate the radical anti-smokers.  One lady said to me (as I stood on the street smoking), "Smoking is bad for you, and second hand smoke is bad for me." I gave her a dirty look and said, "Me not smoking is downright dangerous for you."

Another time some biatch sent her little girl up to me to tell say, "your smoking is bad for me!"  So I told her (loud enough for the biatch mom to hear), "annoying complete strangers is also bad for you, yet that didn't stop you, did it?"  The girl's mom gave me the stink eye for that.


I get that from time to time too. I cup my cigarette when in public fearing ninja cigarette extinguishers.
 
2013-01-05 05:51:20 AM  
Like I care about stress relief !
W\hat is important is I look cool
 
2013-01-05 06:01:12 AM  
DNRTFA, but if you've never smoked before, yeah, they don't relieve stress. But if you're already addicted, like me, they relieve the stress of not having nicotine in your system.
 
2013-01-05 06:09:27 AM  

James F. Campbell: Banacek: There is no better drug then nicotine.

10/10.


Someone told me that Nicotine is what heroin wants to be when it grows up.

Don't know if that's true, but seeing people (including me) fighting Nicotine withdrawal made me think that maybe it was.
 
2013-01-05 06:20:54 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Fano: Gulliver: Nicotine relieves the stress of nicotine withdrawal.

That is all.

...and done here.

/trying to quit
//knows it is do or do not

Good Luck to yo I be right there with you after I finish my last two packs.

/I've done it before
//I started back because of high stress and yea it helped.
/I hope I never have to quit again after this time.


Best of luck, but if you do have to quit again most can tell you that it's something that actually takes a bit of practice. Eight weeks off myself.

/quitting's easy. I've done it hundreds of times.-twain
 
2013-01-05 06:58:22 AM  

Warrener: ordinarysteve: I'm on day 4 of not smoking and the best part of quitting is that if you are an asshole and tell people you are trying to quit, than they forgive you.

Nah, the best part is 5+years later when you can tell people "Yeah, been there. Best of luck to you..."

/I hope.
//Best of luck to you.
///These days the only time I want a cigarette is when I hear an anti-smoking ad. Seriously.


I'm almost 100 percent certain that they make those anti smoking ads for that purpose.

Anyways, nicotine is definitely an anti anxiety medicine. It helped me through a lot of stressful social situations in college. Of course, now that I'm addicted, it eases the stress of not smoking.
 
2013-01-05 07:11:22 AM  

Gulliver: Nicotine relieves the stress of nicotine withdrawal.

That is all.


I started smoking as a teenager (as most all smokers did). Am now 38 and seriously hooked on it. Every time I try to quit I want to punch someone, anyone, in the face. I would even break my "no beating women" rule. It's a nasty habit to break, and the only solution is to reintroduce it or just let the detox run it's course.

If I ever have a child, I will nearly maim him or her if I catch them smoking. It's a lifelong problem that can kill you and costs you more money than you think. To Fark smokers: tally up the years you've smoked, the spikes in prices, and tell me about the Porsche you might have had.
 
2013-01-05 07:14:06 AM  

entitygm: Relatively Obscure: Warrener: I've also never understood the sentiment of "tasting food" again that I've heard from so many people. Personally, I tasted food as well when I smoked a pack+ per day as I do now.

Same here.  I never noticed a difference in the taste of food.

Did anyone ever do a study on whether smokers really are better tippers or not? If it's an acquired habit, I still don't worry about percentages and give a nice amount to any server that does their job with a bit of effort


Smokers also tend to be drinkers. They're in a better mood when the check comes. That's the 'correlation,' and why servers prefer to work in the few places where smoking is allowed. Also, the check is higher than some blue-hair eating a dinner-sized salad and having iced tea.
 
2013-01-05 07:29:54 AM  
The self-deception in this thread is amazing.
 
2013-01-05 07:30:56 AM  
ITT: weak-willed people attempting to justify their disgusting habits.

Smokers are nasty. Knock it off, no body wants to be around your noxious odor or wants to deal with the second hand smoke. And,you don't look cool or whatever, you just look like a selfish douche who wants to inconvenience everyone around them. There are other ways to give yourself cancer that do not assault the olfactory senses of those around you.
 
2013-01-05 07:34:44 AM  

the_rhino: ITT: weak-willed people attempting to justify their disgusting habits.

Smokers are nasty. Knock it off, no body wants to be around your noxious odor or wants to deal with the second hand smoke. And,you don't look cool or whatever, you just look like a selfish douche who wants to inconvenience everyone around them. There are other ways to give yourself cancer that do not assault the olfactory senses of those around you.


How does it feel to be a whiny three year old?
 
2013-01-05 08:02:02 AM  

the_rhino: ITT: weak-willed people attempting to justify their disgusting habits.

Smokers are nasty. Knock it off, no body wants to be around your noxious odor or wants to deal with the second hand smoke. And,you don't look cool or whatever, you just look like a selfish douche who wants to inconvenience everyone around them. There are other ways to give yourself cancer that do not assault the olfactory senses of those around you.


Lemme guess - you have uncontrollable flatulence and hence are irrationally angry at other smelly people. Amirite?
 
2013-01-05 08:02:38 AM  

Shakin_Haitian: the_rhino: ITT: weak-willed people attempting to justify their disgusting habits.

Smokers are nasty. Knock it off, no body wants to be around your noxious odor or wants to deal with the second hand smoke. And,you don't look cool or whatever, you just look like a selfish douche who wants to inconvenience everyone around them. There are other ways to give yourself cancer that do not assault the olfactory senses of those around you.

How does it feel to be a whiny three year old?


No dude, you don't get it, smokers are terrible people worse than Hitler and Jews and rapists all rolled in to one. They're social paraiahs we get to moke and legislate against because of choice, how awesome is that!? And we can be prelitterate farkbags and have no valid opinions or content to spew, but still do it, because no one cares, these guys are EVIL!!
 
2013-01-05 08:46:26 AM  
never took up with cigs , thank god. twice a month cigar and some weed.

2 of my best buds are smokers, i have cut down on hanging out b/c of the stench and annoyance of the smoke. the thought of drinking and watching football and laughing is pleasant but in the last few years the thought of inhaling noxious fumes that are not mine supercedes all else.

smokers are stinky and annoying.

/i need new friends.
 
2013-01-05 09:04:13 AM  
i quit cigarettes like 3 months ago and i STILL have a cough
 
2013-01-05 09:05:50 AM  

BuckTurgidson: twistofsin: Nicotine is as many times more farking dangerous as caffeine. Seriously, discover cocaine instead.

/No, don't do cocaine either. Jesus.


why not drink coca tea
 
2013-01-05 09:40:51 AM  
I smoked a pack and a half daily of Marlboro Red for about five years (first four while in college). Woke up, smoked, ate breakfast, smoked, walked to class (while smoking), finished class (smoked), walked to apartment (while smoking), etc. etc.

I quit cold turkey, no patch,no inhaler. Instead, I just bought a crate of plums. Every time I needed a cigarette, I ate a plum. I chose plums because the tartness can be a bit jarring after you've had four already that day. The first week was awful, but after that you're done as long as you can avoid bumming a cigarette off someone else. In addition to the plums, I ate tons as the nicotine is a hunger suppressor. Be prepared to gain 20 pounds the month after you quit.

Since then, I have had the odd cigarette about twice a year at a party with friends who smoke, but I've never felt the urge to buy a pack.
 
2013-01-05 09:48:48 AM  

lordjupiter: The self-deception in this thread is amazing.


And pretty much cuts across the entire spectrum of opinion on the matter, too.
 
2013-01-05 09:50:22 AM  

free_waffles: I smoked a pack and a half daily of Marlboro Red for about five years (first four while in college). Woke up, smoked, ate breakfast, smoked, walked to class (while smoking), finished class (smoked), walked to apartment (while smoking), etc. etc.

I quit cold turkey, no patch,no inhaler. Instead, I just bought a crate of plums. Every time I needed a cigarette, I ate a plum. I chose plums because the tartness can be a bit jarring after you've had four already that day. The first week was awful, but after that you're done as long as you can avoid bumming a cigarette off someone else. In addition to the plums, I ate tons as the nicotine is a hunger suppressor. Be prepared to gain 20 pounds the month after you quit.

Since then, I have had the odd cigarette about twice a year at a party with friends who smoke, but I've never felt the urge to buy a pack.


I'm glad I wasn't your plumber or janitor that week.
 
2013-01-05 10:00:15 AM  

no shirt no shoes: I've been using an e-cig for just over a year now. Not going to hawk a particular brand but mine is great. A good place for info is e-cigarette forum dot com - it's not sponsored by any company and it is all user submitted info and reviews.


ECF FTW!

/Almost a year now
 
2013-01-05 10:39:49 AM  
Smoking relieves the stress of withdrawal that you volunteered for by smoking to begin with. The perfect Idiot Tax.
 
2013-01-05 10:58:39 AM  

Banacek: I smoked a pack a day for ten years. So very glad that I finally quit. That was years ago.

That said, this report is bullshiat. There is no better drug then nicotine. You want to feel relaxed? It will help you. You want to feel amped? It will help you. Amazing drug. People who deny it's power are liars.


I've smoked cigars for the last 15 years, but recently tried American Spirit cigarettes (without addictive additives). Then found a couple of places where machines roll a carton for you while you wait for $28 out the door. Also additive-free. Lots cheaper than the $2 cigars I smoke.

My wife was on Serequel for almost a year (Doc since switched her to Welbutrin) and gained 80 farking pounds. (Part of that, of course, is we sit on our asses in the camper a lot.) She recently started smoking cigarettes, and is losing wait and is calmer. Yes, the nicotine helps, but she thinks that the "shared ritual" also has a lot to do with it. I agree. Ritual is a very powerful thing.
 
2013-01-05 11:14:25 AM  

free_waffles: I smoked a pack and a half daily of Marlboro Red for about five years (first four while in college). Woke up, smoked, ate breakfast, smoked, walked to class (while smoking), finished class (smoked), walked to apartment (while smoking), etc. etc.

I quit cold turkey, no patch,no inhaler. Instead, I just bought a crate of plums. Every time I needed a cigarette, I ate a plum. I chose plums because the tartness can be a bit jarring after you've had four already that day. The first week was awful, but after that you're done as long as you can avoid bumming a cigarette off someone else. In addition to the plums, I ate tons as the nicotine is a hunger suppressor. Be prepared to gain 20 pounds the month after you quit.

Since then, I have had the odd cigarette about twice a year at a party with friends who smoke, but I've never felt the urge to buy a pack.


Ymmv but bumming smokes while drinking eventually got me hooked again. Took about 5 years.
 
2013-01-05 11:36:35 AM  
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Not mine, but I want one.
 
2013-01-05 11:40:01 AM  
When I started smoking, cigarettes cost $0.40 a pack. I have quit several times over the course of 36 years. I have also tried just about every drug you could possibly become addicted to, and by tried, I mean used. Never a junkie, but only because I could see where continued use would take me; I just walked away from them. But those damn cigarettes are a tough habit to break. Even after having quit for months, the urge to smoke never went away. However, when I am "off" smokes for a while, the cravings become less and less frequent (although still just as intense), and I have experienced better breathing and generally a better attitude. But I'll be damned if smoking doesn't show up in my dreams...I can taste it and so far, I have always found an excuse to start again. One of these days...

/Almost never get sick. Used to joke that I killed all pathogens with alcohol and nicotine
//One of these days I'll stop for good
///Kudos to those who have quit
 
2013-01-05 11:53:03 AM  
Hummm.......I do have a dog in this fight, so I'll be sitting over here.
 
2013-01-05 12:53:05 PM  
I wonder how much of the stress is due to the fact that so many people treat smokers like something you'd scrape off the bottom of your shoe.

Also, smoking has a rather strong correlation with some types of mental illness--schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in particular, IIRC. Any study on "stress" that doesn't exclude, or otherwise account for, people with diagnosable levels and types of mental illness is going to be flawed.

/nonsmoker, glad I never started
 
2013-01-05 12:53:32 PM  
May as well add my CSB:

I started smoking when I was ten. Back then, local friendly convenience store clerks had no qualms about selling a pack to a kid ("It's for my mom!") and at 25c a pack, the 1/2 mile walk to the store would usually yield the three discarded pop bottles needed to cover the cost.

By the time I was forty I'd been smoking for thirty years, and was smoking four packs a day, every day. Smoking eighty cigs a day means I ALWAYS had one lit. I smoked during meals. I smoked in the shower. I woke up in the middle of the night to have a few cigs before going back to sleep. Smoked DURING sex.I ALWAYS had at least one, sometimes two, cigs lit... and EVERYTHING was a trigger.

In '96 cig prices were just beginning to really get outrageous; cartons were almost up to $20. I could not walk up a flight of stairs without stopping to rest, but what bothered me more than that was that I could no longer hold in a hit of weed. I was going to have to quit smoking something I really enjoyed because of smoking something that I had come to resent and detest. I tried everything to quit: The patch, gum, hypnosis, cinnamon sticks, accupuncture... finally Welbutrin, and it worked like magic for me. The morning of my quit date (my 40th birthday) I woke up sarcastically thinking 'Yeah, right; SURE I'm not going to smoke a cig today.' - but it worked like turning off a switch in my brain.

Stupidly, I flirted with smoking on and off for the next coupla years. I never went back to smoking regularly, but once or twice a month I'd bum one off a friend... finally quit that altogether. As my sense of smell slowly returned, I discovered that the world does NOT smell pretty. That was a huge disappointment, as I had been looking forward to finding out what food actually tastes like - remember, I started at ten years old. I'd never even had a beer or barely a burger or slice of pizza without a cig to go along with it.

I put on forty pounds, finally decided that being fat sucked and got my ass to a gym. Lost the weight, got healthy through weights and walking many many miles. towards the end of my forties I was in the best shape of my life. It's been fifteen years now; age is slowly deteriorating my body but I'm still in much better shape than I'd have been if I hadn't quit. I've saved a shiat-ton of money and on most days, the lungs function pretty darned well. Right now I'm fighting the flu (and it feels like I'm losing), but for the most part, quitting was the best thing that ever happened to me.

Here's hoping that anyone who wants to quit can do so as successfully as I did... best of luck to y'all.
 
2013-01-05 01:19:16 PM  

steerforth: aagrajag: manitobamadman: steerforth: johne3819: Great method to quit (if you can do it).

Step 1:

Quit, duh.

Step 2:

If you have the craving that makes you cave and buy a pack, as soon as you light up, toss the rest of the pack. It will cost you $6+ dollars (almost $10 here in Chi) for each cig.

Step 3:

Profit?

My last pack of Peter Stuyvesant 25s cost $17.50 here in Australia.

$15.35 for a pack here in Canada

Yipes. I quit when they were $7.

17.50 AUD = 18.12 CAD and 18.38 USD.

Taxation works! Plus this:

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After and before plain packaging legislation.

/While it didn't put me off smoking, I think it will put off some kids from starting up in the first place.


I have a sinking feeling that will get more kids to say AWESOME I HAVE TO TRY THAT STUFF! I guess marketers forget who the primary market of gory summer movies is.
 
2013-01-05 01:26:48 PM  
This thread is probably dead, but
6 weeks no smoking for me.

I went cold-turkey, but if I hadn't, one of the ways to get a cig to taste bad (as in, what the hell is wrong with my mouth, not the normal flavor) is to suck on a zinc losenge (like cold-eaze or zycam). It makes all food taste bad, but it REALLY makes cigs taste strange.  Like your mouth is coated with something and the smoke can't get in.  It's jarring.

I don't miss it unless I see people smoking on television.  Being around cigarette smokers actually helps, because now that I'm out of the smell, the smell makes me crazy.  I just think it's gross.  So that reduces cravings.  But seeing it on TV, when I can't smell it... I'm not sure what I'm going to do when Mad Men comes back on TV.  Stock up on carrot sticks, I guess.

One thing that I'm going to start doing is put the money I would have spent on cigs into a jar to see how much money I'm saving.  My partner and I did the math (he quit the same time I did) and it should be $1500 by the end of the year.  That's a decent vacation.
 
2013-01-05 01:33:06 PM  
Oh, and also, I was a heinous biatch for the first week. I haven' really gained weight, but I have absolutely stopped losing weight.  However, I was also drinking a lot to compensate.  No drinking is next on the list, and honestly I would rather drink than smoke.  So I'm not looking forward to the next few days / weeks
 
2013-01-05 01:43:29 PM  
This might be hard to believe but it really happened. I was a smoker for over 30 yrs. I LOVED smoking and had absolutely no desire to quit. I had heard about the variety of flavors of e-cig liquid (joose). Everything from fruits to coffees to desserts and more. I thought it would be fun to play with some of the flavors so I did a little research on ECF- Elecrtonic Cigarette Forum Link. I got my first e-cig and a variety of jooses online. That was Feb 18 2012. I haven't had a cigarette since. I wasn't trying to quit. I just kinda happened. You can adjust the amount of nicotine you want as well as the strength of flavor. After playing around with different hardware and different flavors and a couple of hundred bucks, I have found my favorites. I use Smokeless Image Link for my hardware and Kick Bass Vapor Link for my liquids. I would highly recommend these two for anyone interested in trying e-cigs out.

Best thing I ever did!

/vaping KBV's Circus Freak (cotton candy)

//yum
 
2013-01-05 05:06:42 PM  

cindyincocoa: This might be hard to believe but it really happened. I was a smoker for over 30 yrs. I LOVED smoking and had absolutely no desire to quit. I had heard about the variety of flavors of e-cig liquid (joose). Everything from fruits to coffees to desserts and more. I thought it would be fun to play with some of the flavors so I did a little research on ECF- Elecrtonic Cigarette Forum Link. I got my first e-cig and a variety of jooses online. That was Feb 18 2012. I haven't had a cigarette since. I wasn't trying to quit. I just kinda happened. You can adjust the amount of nicotine you want as well as the strength of flavor. After playing around with different hardware and different flavors and a couple of hundred bucks, I have found my favorites. I use Smokeless Image Link for my hardware and Kick Bass Vapor Link for my liquids. I would highly recommend these two for anyone interested in trying e-cigs out.

Best thing I ever did!

/vaping KBV's Circus Freak (cotton candy)

//yum


How long do those cartridges last in terms of a pack of cigs?

I guess it might be person dependent, but at least in your experience.
 
2013-01-05 05:10:43 PM  

sprgrss: ParagonComplex: entitygm: ParagonComplex: I am a psychology major, and their comments about those with depression and psychiatric disorders is unequivocal proof that they are a bunch of nimrods. Why? Because nicotine helps tremendously with said disorders. It all has to do with brain chemistry. For whatever reason nicotine effects people with psychological disorders differently than other people. It is a common theme amongst disorders. As a matter of fact whether or not a person smokes and what it does for theme is a high indicator that something is knocking a little differently in their heads. Everything from schizophrenia to ADHD is affected by nicotine. Doesn't mean you're nuts. It just means that the benefits are more than people realize.

Is that so? I was diagnosed BPD (treated with a lithium variant ~5 years ago) Now I'm on nothing but the occasional nicotine, no symptoms of anything. Self-medicated I suppose?

Exactly. It is a form of self-medication. It really is that powerful of a drug for those with psychological disorders. Also, for those that want to be prescribed a drug to quit you can ask your doctor for Wellbutrin. It effects the same receptors that nicotine does. So much, in fact, that if you try smoking while on Wellbutrin you will get zero effect. The problem arises when you get off the drug, because there is nothing there to react with those receptors. Wellbutrin works well for those with psychological disorders because of how it effects the same receptors as nicotine does. It truly is a common theme in psychological disorders.

/Subby

Wellbutrin didn't work for shiat. Chantix works. My only problem is alcohol. Alcohol inevitably leads to smoking which leads to buying a pack which leads to smoking a cigarette the next morning.


It probably depends on how heavily you smoked. I was relatively light (half a pack or less a day) so it worked better for me. Granted I didn't take it to stop smoking. It was just a by-product. You probably just needed a higher dosage. That other stuff you listed seems way too dangerous to me.
 
2013-01-05 05:13:53 PM  
I am on the ecig bandwagon as well. Started in June of 2011, and have a had a normal cig now and again. But always feel sick after the fact. Nothing compares to the ecig flavor I use. Bavarian cream.

I always smell like vanilla, and I do not crave sweets.

Ego-T with the ego-c upgrade pass through battery. Probably spend around $15 bucks every month for a new atomizer, and $44 every 2.5 months for a huge ass bottle of liquid.

Was spending upwards of $250 a month on normal cigs.
 
2013-01-05 06:48:16 PM  

ElWampa: Ego-T with the ego-c upgrade pass through battery. Probably spend around $15 bucks every month for a new atomizer, and $44 every 2.5 months for a huge ass bottle of liquid.


If you don't already, get the larger 900mAh batteries or pass-through batteries and the low resistance atomizers.  Sooooo much better.
 
2013-01-05 09:46:45 PM  

abominare: cindyincocoa: This might be hard to believe but it really happened. I was a smoker for over 30 yrs. I LOVED smoking and had absolutely no desire to quit. I had heard about the variety of flavors of e-cig liquid (joose). Everything from fruits to coffees to desserts and more. I thought it would be fun to play with some of the flavors so I did a little research on ECF- Elecrtonic Cigarette Forum Link. I got my first e-cig and a variety of jooses online. That was Feb 18 2012. I haven't had a cigarette since. I wasn't trying to quit. I just kinda happened. You can adjust the amount of nicotine you want as well as the strength of flavor. After playing around with different hardware and different flavors and a couple of hundred bucks, I have found my favorites. I use Smokeless Image Link for my hardware and Kick Bass Vapor Link for my liquids. I would highly recommend these two for anyone interested in trying e-cigs out.

Best thing I ever did!

/vaping KBV's Circus Freak (cotton candy)

//yum

How long do those cartridges last in terms of a pack of cigs?

I guess it might be person dependent, but at least in your experience.


Personally I go through @ 2 ml a day using a tank. I'm not really sure how much the pre-filled carts hold. I also find that I vape differently than I smoked. I can take just a hit or 2 and forget about it or vape right through an entire movie. YMMV.
 
2013-01-06 12:59:51 AM  
First fact to look for when trying to determine whether or not any article written for The Daily Mail is asinine and not dependable: it was written for The Daily Mail.
 
2013-01-06 02:46:42 AM  

cindyincocoa: This might be hard to believe but it really happened. I was a smoker for over 30 yrs. I LOVED smoking and had absolutely no desire to quit. I had heard about the variety of flavors of e-cig liquid (joose). Everything from fruits to coffees to desserts and more. I thought it would be fun to play with some of the flavors so I did a little research on ECF- Elecrtonic Cigarette Forum Link. I got my first e-cig and a variety of jooses online. That was Feb 18 2012. I haven't had a cigarette since. I wasn't trying to quit. I just kinda happened. You can adjust the amount of nicotine you want as well as the strength of flavor. After playing around with different hardware and different flavors and a couple of hundred bucks, I have found my favorites. I use Smokeless Image Link for my hardware and Kick Bass Vapor Link for my liquids. I would highly recommend these two for anyone interested in trying e-cigs out.

Best thing I ever did!

/vaping KBV's Circus Freak (cotton candy)

//yum


My story is very similar. Smoked heavy for 30+ years, and didn't think I could quit. A friend started vaping and was getting good results, so I figured "what the hell, I'll give it a shot". I didn't really expect it to work, but it did. Now I haven't had a cig for about 15 months, and I'm not at all tempted. I vape quite a bit - but I've gradually cut my nicotine level down. Most places, they sell juice is multiples of 6 mg, or you can get the juice with no nic at all. I started at 30mg. Now I'm buying juice in 6mg level, and more juice with no nic, and mixing it half and half, so I'm at roughly 3mg. Barely any nic at all. I've been doing that for a couple of months now, and before long, I'm going to try moving to 0 nicotine. If I can do that, I'll try putting the whole thing aside.

Even if I vape the rest of my life, I'm still ahead. No cig smell, much healthier, much cheaper, and I can vape many places where I would not be allowed to smoke,.

Like several here, I learned about vaping at ECF.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum
 
2013-01-06 10:45:15 AM  
I was under the impression that nicotine was an easy way to reduce stress immediately. But the price of using it was that you would have more stress in general unless, of course, you smoked some more.

So in general a smoker probably had less stress than most during and shorty after smoking, but otherwise had a bit more than general and a lot more if they went x time without a puff.

/And of course if you die early, your life will really have had less stress overall.
 
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