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(WFAA Fort Worth)   American Eagle pilot arrested after an alcohol test revealed he was over the Minnesota 0.04% legal limit for pilots. In related news, PILOTS CAN LEGALLY FLY AFTER DRINKING in Minnesota   (wfaa.com) divider line 138
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2013-01-04 05:20:52 PM  

dryknife: Foster Brooks pilot


A classic!
 
2013-01-04 05:21:29 PM  

WillyChase: Hebjamn: Simplified Regulation :

91.17 (a) No flying :
(1) within 8 hours of drinking
(2) while under the influence
(3) - drug related -
(4) with a BAC > .04

My understanding is that there's an implied 'Or' between 1, 2, 3 and 4.

It's hard to understand how you could have a BAC of .04 and not be under the influence.

It's hard to understand how you could have a BAC of .04 and be considered under the influence


Zero tolerance.
 
2013-01-04 05:21:33 PM  
Most airlines have more restrictive limits than .04. "Free from the effects of alcohol" is a common term used in operations manuals. This will allow you to be fired if you show up between .01 and .04.
 
2013-01-04 05:22:12 PM  
trailers.apple.com

That's how he rolls...
 
2013-01-04 05:22:46 PM  

filter: What are the limits for a CDL? I thought OTR drivers had .02 as a limit. How are pilots allowed more?


I refer you to my post above
 
2013-01-04 05:23:09 PM  

W. T. Fark: That's about 2 beers. Much more lenient than I would expect


It's hard to say how many beers it is. You have to consider metabolism, weight, time etc.
 
2013-01-04 05:25:06 PM  
bbsimg.ngfiles.com

/Wait a second...penguins can't fly...PENGUINS CAN'T FLY
 
2013-01-04 05:25:33 PM  
Amateurs. .04 is the minimum BAC for flying in Wisconsin.
 
2013-01-04 05:27:24 PM  
Did my pilot's training in Minnesota & getting a kick, etc.

/ though I was under 21 at the time anyway, so any drinking was illegal
 
2013-01-04 05:33:12 PM  
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-04 05:34:34 PM  
bike29.com
 
2013-01-04 05:36:32 PM  

macadamnut: How about an Old Fashioned?


/IAMMMMW FTW!
 
2013-01-04 05:37:45 PM  
Foster Brooks played a pilot in Jerry Lewis' CRACKING UP, but I can't find a picture. :(
 
2013-01-04 05:38:42 PM  
Airline Transport Pilot certificates are issued under FAR Part 61 which in 61.15(b) states:

"(b) Committing an act prohibited by §91.17(a) or §91.19(a) of this chapter is grounds for:

(1) Denial of an application for a certificate, rating, or authorization issued under this part for a period of up to 1 year after the date of that act; or

(2) Suspension or revocation of any certificate, rating, or authorization issued under this part."

Commercial Pilot
Airplane Single and Multi-Engine Land
Instrument Airplane
Lighter Than Air - Balloon

The state charges will likely be the least of his problems.
 
2013-01-04 05:38:51 PM  

mark12A: I REALLY needed a drink last week flying to Rochester. I was on one of those little CRJ's out of Philly. We lifted off, gear came up, we were climbing out, when suddenly, without warning, the plane rolls into a 45 degree bank to the right, dfoes like a 2g turn, then rolls 90 degrees to the left, into a left 45 degree 2g turn, then levels out and continues climbing. I ripped my headphones off (was listening to the Jonny Quest theme, as I usually do during takeoffs) and damm near pissed my pants. What was it? A controls failure, crazy pilot fight in the cockpit??

No. A flight of geese flew in front of the plane after liftoff and the pilot went all Top Gunny to avoid them. I was impressed at the roll rate the pilot was able to generate with the CRJ. Almost as quick as the Pitts Special I used to fly.


+1 for spelling it "Jonny"

/Great tune... one of my childhood favorites from the night it premiered
 
2013-01-04 05:39:07 PM  
As God as my witness, I thought after drinking Wild Turkey I could fly.
 
2013-01-04 05:42:13 PM  

Ed Finnerty: JerseyTim: Yes, but how was the Abercrombie and Fitch pilot?

Hard to tell. His cologne was overpowering.


The thundering music and dim cabin was like an opium den.
 
2013-01-04 05:43:12 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: Darn hipster airlines.

[www.outletnote.com image 324x327]


American Eagle is hipster now?
 
2013-01-04 05:44:37 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: .04 is the limit for any commercial license. Pilot trucker limo driver bus driver.


filter: What are the limits for a CDL? I thought OTR drivers had .02 as a limit. How are pilots allowed more?


My buddy has a small landscaping business.  Has to have a CDL (or something similar) to drive his truck.  He told me its 0.02.  Maybe its a state thing.
 
2013-01-04 05:47:01 PM  
I didn't know you could get a pilot's license to fly American Eagles...

Do you have to be a jockey or something?
 
2013-01-04 05:48:02 PM  

Hebjamn: Simplified Regulation :

91.17 (a) No flying :
(1) within 8 hours of drinking
(2) while under the influence
(3) - drug related -
(4) with a BAC > .04

My understanding is that there's an implied 'Or' between 1, 2, 3 and 4.

It's hard to understand how you could have a BAC of .04 and not be under the influence.


spoken like a true puritan.

how frisky do you feel after 2 light beers, francis?
 
2013-01-04 05:51:31 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: WillyChase: Hebjamn: Simplified Regulation :

91.17 (a) No flying :
(1) within 8 hours of drinking
(2) while under the influence
(3) - drug related -
(4) with a BAC > .04

My understanding is that there's an implied 'Or' between 1, 2, 3 and 4.

It's hard to understand how you could have a BAC of .04 and not be under the influence.

It's hard to understand how you could have a BAC of .04 and be considered under the influence

Zero tolerance.


^^^^^
 
2013-01-04 05:52:39 PM  

W. T. Fark: That's about 2 beers. Much more lenient than I would expect


What do you weigh? 30 lbs?
 
2013-01-04 05:54:11 PM  

SSpiffy: Airline Transport Pilot certificates are issued under FAR Part 61 which in 61.15(b) states:

"(b) Committing an act prohibited by §91.17(a) or §91.19(a) of this chapter is grounds for:

(1) Denial of an application for a certificate, rating, or authorization issued under this part for a period of up to 1 year after the date of that act; or

(2) Suspension or revocation of any certificate, rating, or authorization issued under this part."

Commercial Pilot
Airplane Single and Multi-Engine Land
Instrument Airplane
Lighter Than Air - Balloon

The state charges will likely be the least of his problems.


I have all of those, except Lighter than air balloon.

Still got grounded for black olives, really.  Followed the alcohol rules however.

Remember, the pilots usually arrive at the crash scene first.  Passengers forget that.
 
2013-01-04 05:55:54 PM  
.04 that is like had a beer at some point since you turned 21
 
2013-01-04 05:56:22 PM  

W. T. Fark: That's about 2 beers. Much more lenient than I would expect


2 weak shiatty american light beers over a 2 hour period maybe.
 
2013-01-04 05:58:44 PM  
If I have to turn off my electronics due to the tiny chance of interference then the pilots should have a zero BAC.

/about to board a plane
 
2013-01-04 06:04:55 PM  

Baryogenesis: If I have to turn off my electronics due to the tiny chance of interference then the pilots should have a zero BAC.

/about to board a plane


Using alcohol-based mouthwash is enough to blow something greater than zero. While I'm not okay with my pilot knocking back a few before the flight, I am okay with him having fresh breath.
 
2013-01-04 06:05:15 PM  

Baryogenesis: If I have to turn off my electronics due to the tiny chance of interference then the pilots should have a zero BAC.

/about to board a plane


Lol airlines are now putting iPads in the cockpit, it is all a crock.
 
2013-01-04 06:05:43 PM  

W. T. Fark: That's about 2 beers. Much more lenient than I would expect


Ehhh... if you were a decent-sized guy and you drank them slow. Neglecting metabolism (which is to say, neglecting time), BAC is basically just a question of alcohol divided by mass, which is why Stacy Stakowski totally got a DUI even though she only had like one and a half Zimas at Todd's party and left after half an hour because Todd was practically farking Denise Fetzer in the hallway to his parents' bedroom and he knew she was there and so now she like can't even get her license back until she's 19 and that's only because her dad is a tax lawyer and called in a favor with the district magistrate to get her charged with vehicular reckless endangerment instead.
 
2013-01-04 06:10:53 PM  

happyleper: Baryogenesis: If I have to turn off my electronics due to the tiny chance of interference then the pilots should have a zero BAC.

/about to board a plane

Using alcohol-based mouthwash is enough to blow something greater than zero. While I'm not okay with my pilot knocking back a few before the flight, I am okay with him having fresh breath.


In flight school, they gave us a list of foods not to eat, so we wouldn't get false positives on drug tests.
 
2013-01-04 06:12:14 PM  
"Officer, I cleaned my face with hand sanitizer. Should I not have done that?"
 
2013-01-04 06:23:32 PM  
a beer? burn em at the stake.

17 hour duty day? good job see you tomorrow.

/roughly the same level of impairment
 
2013-01-04 06:24:54 PM  

semiotix: W. T. Fark: That's about 2 beers. Much more lenient than I would expect

Ehhh... if you were a decent-sized guy and you drank them slow. Neglecting metabolism (which is to say, neglecting time), BAC is basically just a question of alcohol divided by mass, which is why Stacy Stakowski totally got a DUI even though she only had like one and a half Zimas at Todd's party and left after half an hour because Todd was practically farking Denise Fetzer in the hallway to his parents' bedroom and he knew she was there and so now she like can't even get her license back until she's 19 and that's only because her dad is a tax lawyer and called in a favor with the district magistrate to get her charged with vehicular reckless endangerment instead.


Nice!
 
2013-01-04 06:25:15 PM  

WillyChase: It's hard to understand how you could have a BAC of .04 and be considered under the influence


I actually have a breathalyzer I go out with. I can drink a bit a still be only at .03 or .04. There are times I won't drive at those. You can be pretty buzzed at 03 or 04. I wouldn't say "drunk" but you are still impaired.
 
2013-01-04 06:25:25 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: Baryogenesis: If I have to turn off my electronics due to the tiny chance of interference then the pilots should have a zero BAC.

/about to board a plane

Lol airlines are now putting iPads in the cockpit, it is all a crock.


If you knew the process behind it, you'd see what a bigger crock it is. Each version of the iPad has to be approved by the FAA for each airline. THEN each airline has to run tests for the manuals. The total time to go from 'we want to do this' to actually being allowed to, runs over a year. Nevermind that they (the FAA) knows the first 3 models and the software all work fine. Still gotta jump through those hoops.

They trust the pilots to have the wireless function turned off. They don't trust the general public to do the same and can't expect the 90 year old flight attendants to know the difference between an iPod and an iPhone or any other wifi device, so they make everybody turn them off.
 
2013-01-04 06:27:10 PM  

Fear_and_Loathing: Baryogenesis: If I have to turn off my electronics due to the tiny chance of interference then the pilots should have a zero BAC.

/about to board a plane

Lol airlines are now putting iPads in the cockpit, it is all a crock.


Because one device not interfering means they all can't. Great logic there.
 
2013-01-04 06:33:20 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Fear_and_Loathing: It used to be 8 hours bottle to throttle.

That's a good rule for driving as well as flying.


Actually no it's not. If you're on a bender and pass out at say 0.20% 8 hours before your flight (or drive) you can still be hammered 8 hours later.
 
2013-01-04 06:41:19 PM  
I want to point out that .08 is higher than .04 as well as a .14

The article doesn't mention what his actually was, only that the law was .04 and he was arrested for possibly being somewhere above that. So he could have had a .20 for as much as the article tells us.
 
2013-01-04 06:50:08 PM  

Hoblit: I want to point out that .08 is higher than .04 as well as a .14

The article doesn't mention what his actually was, only that the law was .04 and he was arrested for possibly being somewhere above that. So he could have had a .20 for as much as the article tells us.


To decimal
 
2013-01-04 06:50:49 PM  

filter: Nice!


I don't always drink... but when I do it's with gossipy teenage girls who give me money to buy booze for them.

/stay thirsty, my BFFs
 
2013-01-04 06:53:17 PM  

Freezingprocess: I've woke up after 7-8 hours of sleep with a BAC of 3 times that.


your family must be so proud
 
2013-01-04 06:53:38 PM  

semiotix: filter: Nice!

I don't always drink... but when I do it's with gossipy teenage girls who give me money to buy booze for them.

/stay thirsty, my BFFs


/ewww. *busted*
 
2013-01-04 06:54:39 PM  
Hoblit: I want to point out that .08 is higher than .04 as well as a .14

The article doesn't mention what his actually was, only that the law was .04 and he was arrested for possibly being somewhere above that. So he could have had a .20 for as much as the article tells us.


Indubitably
To decimal

I'm not sure what you are saying. .14 & .08 is higher than .04

My only point is that this guy could have been .20 or for the sake of argument, 2.04... this would still be above .04

The article simply doesn't say what he came in at, only that it was higher than .04

This guy could have been crazy drunk. Though the wording of the headline and the discussion seems to lean that he was right at .04 or just somehow above.

*shrugs
 
2013-01-04 07:05:46 PM  

CavalierEternal: /Wait a second...penguins can't fly...PENGUINS CAN'T FLY


I don't care how many stewardesses you've banged, you're still a lousy pilot
 
2013-01-04 07:17:46 PM  

Polish Hussar: CavalierEternal: /Wait a second...penguins can't fly...PENGUINS CAN'T FLY

I don't care how many stewardesses you've banged, you're still a lousy pilot


QUAAACK QUACK QUACK
 
2013-01-04 07:17:47 PM  

Hoblit: Hoblit: I want to point out that .08 is higher than .04 as well as a .14

The article doesn't mention what his actually was, only that the law was .04 and he was arrested for possibly being somewhere above that. So he could have had a .20 for as much as the article tells us.

Indubitably
To decimal

I'm not sure what you are saying. .14 & .08 is higher than .04

My only point is that this guy could have been .20 or for the sake of argument, 2.04... this would still be above .04

The article simply doesn't say what he came in at, only that it was higher than .04

This guy could have been crazy drunk. Though the wording of the headline and the discussion seems to lean that he was right at .04 or just somehow above.

*shrugs


P.S. What I find most interesting is how many people on the internet don't nuance well. *)
 
2013-01-04 07:20:50 PM  

PunGent: Fear_and_Loathing: It used to be 8 hours bottle to throttle.  Now the FAA has some pretty stiff regs.

And American Eagle has some pretty stiff pilots...

/rimshot
//tip your waitress


I tried to, but when I pulled her onto my lap she slapped me and then called the cops.
 
2013-01-04 07:28:20 PM  
0.04%? Sure he was not under the influence of mouthwash?
 
2013-01-04 07:31:58 PM  
So what, if a pilot ever has a drink, they can no longer fly, ever again?
 
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