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2013-01-04 04:06:11 PM  
My baby:
www.tylak.com

2011 Honda CR-Z
35mpg during regular commute.
40mpg on road trips.
Manual transmission w/electric motor assist.
 
2013-01-04 04:07:29 PM  
Smug alert.
 
2013-01-04 04:08:17 PM  

Tylak: My baby:
[www.tylak.com image 850x637]

2011 Honda CR-Z
35mpg during regular commute.
40mpg on road trips.
Manual transmission w/electric motor assist.


that... that may be my future car... I love me a stick shift. Do they make a 4dr version?
 
2013-01-04 04:12:25 PM  

SuperT: Tylak: My baby:
[www.tylak.com image 850x637]

2011 Honda CR-Z
35mpg during regular commute.
40mpg on road trips.
Manual transmission w/electric motor assist.

that... that may be my future car... I love me a stick shift. Do they make a 4dr version?


Two door only and the American version does not have a back seat.
 
2013-01-04 04:14:28 PM  

Lexx: Come on, tell me - what jurisdiction do you live in?


Sure thing, Barney Fife.

Unless it's the AUTOBAHN I have a $2 coin in my pocket that says the cops would LOVE to know you like to drive north of 100MPH.

Who doesn't?

Has it occurred to you yet that you have no idea how the 101 mph limit was verified, where it happened, or who did it? Or are you just content to ignorantly continue in your false assumption that someone you've never met is a reckless driver?

Let me spell it out for you, nimrod. I work with professional race drivers -- guys that are safer than you at twice your speed. I know how to drive a farking car. I know how to do it safely, at an appropriate speed, and I know exactly when and where to get my driving jollies, and trust me, there's no shortage of opportunities to do exactly that without driving on a public road or endangering anyone who didn't volunteer to go along for the ride.

Perhaps most importantly, I'm not answerable to you or any other panic-stricken asswipe who thinks it's his job to play traffic police, and what I do on a closed circuit is none of your goddamned business unless you're flagging the corners or driving along with me.

So, you can take your condescending lecture circuit somewhere else and go fark yourself with a rusty pitchfork. It was a comment about the car, not about my driving habits. Shut the fark up. You're out of your element here.
 
2013-01-04 04:15:07 PM  

Tylak: My baby:
[www.tylak.com image 850x637]

2011 Honda CR-Z
35mpg during regular commute.
40mpg on road trips.
Manual transmission w/electric motor assist.


I was looking at those before I bought my Prius. I had high hopes, but wasn't terribly impressed with it.
 
2013-01-04 04:16:11 PM  
Back to the topic: My retired mother traded in her Prius for the Volt and she loves the car. She was at some ridiculous number like 150/ mpg the last time I talked to her.
 
2013-01-04 04:16:40 PM  

Ed_Severson: Lexx: Come on, tell me - what jurisdiction do you live in?

Sure thing, Barney Fife.

Unless it's the AUTOBAHN I have a $2 coin in my pocket that says the cops would LOVE to know you like to drive north of 100MPH.

Who doesn't?

Has it occurred to you yet that you have no idea how the 101 mph limit was verified, where it happened, or who did it? Or are you just content to ignorantly continue in your false assumption that someone you've never met is a reckless driver?

Let me spell it out for you, nimrod. I work with professional race drivers -- guys that are safer than you at twice your speed. I know how to drive a farking car. I know how to do it safely, at an appropriate speed, and I know exactly when and where to get my driving jollies, and trust me, there's no shortage of opportunities to do exactly that without driving on a public road or endangering anyone who didn't volunteer to go along for the ride.

Perhaps most importantly, I'm not answerable to you or any other panic-stricken asswipe who thinks it's his job to play traffic police, and what I do on a closed circuit is none of your goddamned business unless you're flagging the corners or driving along with me.

So, you can take your condescending lecture circuit somewhere else and go fark yourself with a rusty pitchfork. It was a comment about the car, not about my driving habits. Shut the fark up. You're out of your element here.


why do you care that the top speed of a car designed for regular, public road use is "only" 101?
 
2013-01-04 04:16:54 PM  

mr pity: , for one, think a top speed of 101 is great for a car that doesn't need gasoline for the most common commuting usage cases.


If the GPS speed lock thing ever goes through, people are going to lose their shiat. Basically the idea is that your car will have a top speed capped around 100 mph. That way if you're on the interstate and you suddenly need to accelerate for some safety reason (truck beside you blew a tire and you want to pull the hell away from it for example) you still have some room. However otherwise you'll have a limiter on your engine, unless you arrive at a racing track who has its GPS coords on file. That point the limiter will go from whatever limit the government set to whatever limit the engineers think you can do before your engine blows the fark up.

Also it won't be something you can just "flash off". People talk about that, but they fail to grasp that auto engineers have two ways of doing something. There is the half ass way (likely because I intend to flash this feature off my personal vehicle ASAP) and then there is the "We do this right or the NHTSA rapes us" way.

/as an example, on a modern car your odometer is all electric. Try to reflash it back to 0, we did that the right way because it would destroy the resale value if people were tampering with them left and right
//low resale can force a sticker price drop since it becomes less desirable to the people who flip cars every three years
 
2013-01-04 04:17:33 PM  

Ed_Severson: You're out of your element here.


You go Walter. World of pain.
 
2013-01-04 04:18:38 PM  

mr pity: I'm all for staying out of the left lane for you (drive however you want and above all let faster traffic through), but 100 mph is more than 40 percent over the interstate speed limit in Indiana. I'm sure you have some kind of justification for needing to drive that fast, but try to bear in mind that most people don't share your enthusiasm for high-speed hijinks.

If you really think you need to drive over 100 mph everywhere you go, good luck with your future endeavors and/or awesome insurance premiums. I, for one, think a top speed of 101 is great for a car that doesn't need gasoline for the most common commuting usage cases.


Once again ... It wasn't on a public road, and at no point have I ever claimed to have driven 100 mph on a public road, much less regularly. Go lecture somebody else about vehicle safety.
 
2013-01-04 04:21:18 PM  
My baby...gets 15MPG if im lucky and WILL do 160+

/never moans about gas prices
//glad I dont live in Europe

i10.photobucket.com/">
 
2013-01-04 04:21:38 PM  

Lexx:
Ontario, Canada:
50+km/hr over (Stunt Driving/Speed Racing) = 6 points + immediate 7 day licence suspension and car impoundment + up to 2 year additional licence suspension upon conviction. Fines can range from $2,000 to $10,000.

Tell me again how you have any business, whatsoever, doing 100MPH?


The law you quote is for public roads. Doesn't apply to private roads.

Mosport, here we come....
 
2013-01-04 04:23:19 PM  

Ed_Severson: Lexx: Come on, tell me - what jurisdiction do you live in?

Sure thing, Barney Fife.

Unless it's the AUTOBAHN I have a $2 coin in my pocket that says the cops would LOVE to know you like to drive north of 100MPH.

Who doesn't?

Has it occurred to you yet that you have no idea how the 101 mph limit was verified, where it happened, or who did it? Or are you just content to ignorantly continue in your false assumption that someone you've never met is a reckless driver?

Let me spell it out for you, nimrod. I work with professional race drivers -- guys that are safer than you at twice your speed. I know how to drive a farking car. I know how to do it safely, at an appropriate speed, and I know exactly when and where to get my driving jollies, and trust me, there's no shortage of opportunities to do exactly that without driving on a public road or endangering anyone who didn't volunteer to go along for the ride.

Perhaps most importantly, I'm not answerable to you or any other panic-stricken asswipe who thinks it's his job to play traffic police, and what I do on a closed circuit is none of your goddamned business unless you're flagging the corners or driving along with me.

So, you can take your condescending lecture circuit somewhere else and go fark yourself with a rusty pitchfork. It was a comment about the car, not about my driving habits. Shut the fark up. You're out of your element here.


And to think, if only GM had had the foresight to think of the needs of people safer than I am at twice my speed, this whole little tantrum could have been avoided...
 
2013-01-04 04:23:41 PM  

SuperT: why do you care that the top speed of a car designed for regular, public road use is "only" 101?


More than anything else, it seems like a needless design consideration. If you don't want it to be able to go faster than that, just give it less power. If it's for "safety" why 101? Why not 85?
 
2013-01-04 04:26:00 PM  
GM screwed up with the marketing of a really cool vehicle type.

Instead of building the volt as a warmed over Malibu styled Chevrolet - they should have built the Cadillac Volt.

Add some leather and Caddy cues to the interior - it looks pretty cool as is:
www.autoguide.com

Add some Edgy Cadillac "art and science" styling:
1.bp.blogspot.com
OK maybe not that sleek but you get the idea.

...then advertise it as "the standard of the world". Sell it for about what it goes for now.

Nobody would complain about spending $40k on a Caddy, and the 0-60 and handling deficiencies don't apply to something that gets infinite MPG for short trips.

Instead, a boring ass beige Chebby that people buy in spite of its plebeian looks.
 
2013-01-04 04:26:17 PM  

Deucednuisance: lennavan: So we both know you're completely and fundamentally wrong.

Boy, should you have refreshed before you posted or what?

It's not like the solution to that problem hasn't posted at least three times above you, already....

But you got to lecture somebody (again) so you got that going for ya....


I know you're really mad at me and stuff. But you and I can agree in this thread. You see my post was agreeing with another post about how gas goes stale. Your post was about how the Volt engineers knew gas goes stale, completely agreeing with what I said, so they came up with a solution.

But you got to lecture me, and somebody else, so you got that going for ya....
 
2013-01-04 04:28:10 PM  

Loaf's Tray: And to think, if only GM had had the foresight to think of the needs of people safer than I am at twice my speed, this whole little tantrum could have been avoided...


Alternate course of avoidance: don't lecture people about topics you don't understand, and especially don't treat people you don't know like you have authority over them and they need to explain themselves to you.
 
2013-01-04 04:28:41 PM  

Ed_Severson: SuperT: why do you care that the top speed of a car designed for regular, public road use is "only" 101?

More than anything else, it seems like a needless design consideration. If you don't want it to be able to go faster than that, just give it less power. If it's for "safety" why 101? Why not 85?


same argument could be applied to gun ownership. 'oh you don't NEED a gun like that' they say. nobody says anything about the jackwagons out here in Vegas tooling around in their Lambos and Ferraris that easily do triple the speed limit. Nobody NEEDS to go that fast.
 
2013-01-04 04:28:54 PM  

fo_sho!: GM screwed up with the marketing of a really cool vehicle type.

Instead of building the volt as a warmed over Malibu styled Chevrolet - they should have built the Cadillac Volt.

Add some leather and Caddy cues to the interior - it looks pretty cool as is:
[www.autoguide.com image 640x427]

Add some Edgy Cadillac "art and science" styling:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]
OK maybe not that sleek but you get the idea.

...then advertise it as "the standard of the world". Sell it for about what it goes for now.

Nobody would complain about spending $40k on a Caddy, and the 0-60 and handling deficiencies don't apply to something that gets infinite MPG for short trips.

Instead, a boring ass beige Chebby that people buy in spite of its plebeian looks.


There is a Cadillac version in the works for 2014, but I agree with your point.

Link
 
2013-01-04 04:30:19 PM  

sunderland56: The law you quote is for public roads. Doesn't apply to private roads.

Mosport, here we come....


Mosport would be a fine choice.
 
2013-01-04 04:35:09 PM  

Big_Thumb: fo_sho!: GM screwed up with the marketing of a really cool vehicle type.

Instead of building the volt as a warmed over Malibu styled Chevrolet - they should have built the Cadillac Volt.

Add some leather and Caddy cues to the interior - it looks pretty cool as is:
[www.autoguide.com image 640x427]

Add some Edgy Cadillac "art and science" styling:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]
OK maybe not that sleek but you get the idea.

...then advertise it as "the standard of the world". Sell it for about what it goes for now.

Nobody would complain about spending $40k on a Caddy, and the 0-60 and handling deficiencies don't apply to something that gets infinite MPG for short trips.

Instead, a boring ass beige Chebby that people buy in spite of its plebeian looks.

There is a Cadillac version in the works for 2014, but I agree with your point.

Link


Kewl. Didn't know about that, and I hit Jalopnik from time to time and have a C & D subscription.

The problem now is the Caddy will be perceived as a souped up Chevy, whereas if they had just listened to me it would be perceived as an example of high end technology making it's way into affordable cars.
 
2013-01-04 04:40:59 PM  
Ed_Severson:
Once again ... It wasn't on a public road, and at no point have I ever claimed to have driven 100 mph on a public road, much less regularly. Go lecture somebody else about vehicle safety.

So you're arguing that an electric commuter car should be better suited for use on a race track? Do you think that's the usage case envisioned by the manufacturer?
 
2013-01-04 04:41:01 PM  

ManOfTeal: YodaBlues: The Fifth Dentist: YodaBlues: ringersol: BadReligion: "Gas only stays good for about 6 months, so she should use up her tank soon or it will be filled with bad gas."

The Volt will actually run the engine from time to time to mitigate the problems that stem from having a modern ICE sitting idle for months.

Look at that, you're right. From wiki:
"Also the engine management system monitors the time between engine running and it is programmed to prompt the driver to run past the 40-mile (64 km) before recharging in order to consume some gasoline. If the driver does not run on gasoline, the system will automatically run the maintenance mode which starts the engine to consume some of the aging fuel and circulate the fluids within the engine."

That's pretty neat. Shame it's so expensive though.

Pretty neat until it fires itself up in your enclosed garage...yeah , no thanks

The engine only goes in maintenance mode while your driving it numbnuts.

Then it drives to Sarah Connor's house.


So it knows I'm bi-sexual. Awesome!
 
2013-01-04 04:41:11 PM  

Ed_Severson: Let me spell it out for you, nimrod. I work with professional race drivers -- guys that are safer than you at twice your speed.


THIS has nothing to do with a Volt, but wow am I impressed.
 
2013-01-04 04:48:06 PM  

mr pity: So you're arguing that an electric commuter car should be better suited for use on a race track?


Not at all. I'm simply saying the limiter is unnecessary, and in my opinion, not very logical in its implementation. Will that be an issue for 99.9% of the suckers people who buy one? Of course not. But it was an annoyance to me, so I listed it as one.
 
2013-01-04 04:51:42 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: THIS has nothing to do with a Volt, but wow am I impressed.


You shouldn't be. There are lots of people who work in motorsports. Despite the reputation, most of us can keep it in our pants when we're on the road with other people so the constant finger wagging from the Internet traffic cops who don't know anything we don't gets tiresome.
 
2013-01-04 04:54:57 PM  

Ed_Severson: mr pity: So you're arguing that an electric commuter car should be better suited for use on a race track?

Not at all. I'm simply saying the limiter is unnecessary, and in my opinion, not very logical in its implementation. Will that be an issue for 99.9% of the suckers people who buy one? Of course not. But it was an annoyance to me, so I listed it as one.


By a used one and flash the limited. Limits come OEM as part of the reason we are able to offer a warranty. In fact you are welcome to remove it from your new purchase, so long as you don't mind us voiding the warranty as part of the deal. After market tunes can remove them (Trifecta on a Camaro as an example). Just be sure to upgrade the other parts of your car needed to allow you to safely travel at that speed.

As for our refusal to sell you factory stock without a limiter, go talk to the guys who do liability. I'm sure they need a laugh for the day.

/also we limit based on the stock tire, that way we don't get sued when someone does 130 and blows out his tires that weren't intended to go past 118
 
2013-01-04 04:56:37 PM  
I looked at the Volt when the first came out, and ended up buying a Prius.
My commute is 60 miles one way (and no, I can't live closer to work because I'm not eligible to live on Base, and I don't feel like camping out with the scorpions). Even with the 30 mile electric range, I still would end up using a couple of gallons of gas every day in the Volt. The Prius on the other hand uses about 2.5 gallons per day to make the same commute. So the extra $10k price tag on the Volt wasn't worth the extra 0.5 gallons per day, so I drive a Prius.

//and I am going to drive it into the ground....
 
2013-01-04 04:58:05 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: OK, so riddle me this: why doesn't anyone market an electric-only car to the little old lady crowd? My mom recalls an old lady that drove a 1910 electric around town into the late 1960s.


You can achieve the functionality of a 1910 electric car using a golf cart. They're fairly popular in Florida amongst the Geezervolk.
 
2013-01-04 05:05:39 PM  

ha-ha-guy: By a used one and flash the limited.


No offense, but I'm not gonna buy one at all.

As for our refusal to sell you factory stock without a limiter, go talk to the guys who do liability. I'm sure they need a laugh for the day.

I understand there are liability issues, but again, why 101? If a component fails at 100 and somebody gets killed, don't think for a minute there's not an attorney out there who would sue GM for not limiting at 99.
 
2013-01-04 05:06:02 PM  

Ed_Severson: Soup4Bonnie: THIS has nothing to do with a Volt, but wow am I impressed.

You shouldn't be. There are lots of people who work in motorsports. Despite the reputation, most of us can keep it in our pants when we're on the road with other people so the constant finger wagging from the Internet traffic cops who don't know anything we don't gets tiresome.


Except you're missing the point- the Volt isn't designed for motorsports. Nobody's being an "internet traffic cop" here. You just wanted to tell everyone what a bad-ass racecar driver you are. We're all duly impressed.
 
2013-01-04 05:07:57 PM  

Ed_Severson: Soup4Bonnie: THIS has nothing to do with a Volt, but wow am I impressed.

You shouldn't be. There are lots of people who work in motorsports. Despite the reputation, most of us can keep it in our pants when we're on the road with other people so the constant finger wagging from the Internet traffic cops who don't know anything we don't gets tiresome.


Hey, I said I'd get out of your way on the interstate. I just don't grok your need for a 100mph commuter.

/Don't worry, I'm not listening to you anymore.
 
2013-01-04 05:08:51 PM  

Ed_Severson: ha-ha-guy: By a used one and flash the limited.

No offense, but I'm not gonna buy one at all.

As for our refusal to sell you factory stock without a limiter, go talk to the guys who do liability. I'm sure they need a laugh for the day.

I understand there are liability issues, but again, why 101? If a component fails at 100 and somebody gets killed, don't think for a minute there's not an attorney out there who would sue GM for not limiting at 99.


Because some drone over in legal thinks they can defend 101 in court, but not 102. The same reason a Grand Prix's GXP will show your max G forces but not do a live update, but later on the Corvette HUD would show live Gs. Some lawyer thought that live updates of Gs on the center stack was liability, but live on the HUD was fine for showing it as "safety related performance information". We just program in whatever changes legal orders.

/or in some cases if you go X mph we thing something will break and we'll have to pay money to fix it due to the warranty, but normally it is the ceiling legal set and they're a little dark box of mysteries and dumb decisions
 
2013-01-04 05:09:22 PM  

Ed_Severson: Despite the reputation, most of us can keep it in our pants when we're on the road with other people so the constant finger wagging from the Internet traffic cops who don't know anything we don't gets tiresome.


As opposed to say, an internet gear head coming into a Volt thread and smashing on the hybrid consumer model for not going over 100. Doesn't it sound silly to you when you read it that way now?
 
2013-01-04 05:10:28 PM  

ha-ha-guy: /also we limit based on the stock tire, that way we don't get sued when someone does 130 and blows out his tires that weren't intended to go past 118


Total aside here, but tire maintenance is one of those things that drives me nuts with the general public. It's the only part of your car that touches the road; it's kind of important. I hate seeing people throw on a 50-mile donut when they get a flat and then tool around on it for 6 months. That shiat should be punishable by public stoning. And driving around with flat tires or a wheel that's way out of balance ... how the hell do you not notice that?
 
2013-01-04 05:13:43 PM  

Ed_Severson: I understand there are liability issues, but again, why 101?


As for why weird numbers, legal works on: "Figure out the speed where each component has a Y% chance of failure, max speed is X% the lowest of those speeds." Bunch of different groups submit numbers for their parts and where the tests show failure, a decree from legal is given.
 
2013-01-04 05:13:50 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Know what happens when the battery goes dead in a Volt?

/you can't unlock the doors
//how annoying
///especially if your phone is locked inside


That's true of my ICE MINI as well. The car has no manual door locks.
 
2013-01-04 05:15:38 PM  

oh_please: Except you're missing the point- the Volt isn't designed for motorsports.


Never claimed it was.

Nobody's being an "internet traffic cop" here.

Except the people chiming in to lecture other people about what speeds are appropriate for a public road, as if that was a topic that needed to be discussed or anybody here wasn't already aware.

You just wanted to tell everyone what a bad-ass racecar driver you are.

Nope. Never claimed to be a driver, and I am in fact not one. I just work with them.

Anything else?
 
2013-01-04 05:20:21 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: As opposed to say, an internet gear head coming into a Volt thread and smashing on the hybrid consumer model for not going over 100. Doesn't it sound silly to you when you read it that way now?


It sounds totally ridiculous, because that's not what happened.
I didn't "smash" the Volt because it only goes 101 mph. I said that was kind of annoying. Primarily, though, it's just kind of a boring drive and way overpriced at $40k.

Does it offend your sensibilities that somebody thinks a car is boring?
 
2013-01-04 05:24:44 PM  

ha-ha-guy: /or in some cases if you go X mph we thing something will break and we'll have to pay money to fix it due to the warranty, but normally it is the ceiling legal set and they're a little dark box of mysteries and dumb decisions


I suspect that is the explanation for a great many things in life which don't make much sense. :)
 
2013-01-04 05:29:06 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Know what happens when the battery goes dead in a Volt?

/you can't unlock the doors
//how annoying
///especially if your phone is locked inside

Which

battery? There's more than one. Not that it really matters, because the Volt has a regular key lock on the Driver's door like nearly every other car on the market...
=Smidge=
 
2013-01-04 05:33:28 PM  
I actually rather like the Volt, and despite subby's insinuation, I actually see them on the road pretty regularly.
The number of Volts they sell I think has to do with the price as opposed to how good the car is. As the article said, it is selling better than the similarly-priced Corvette and nobody accuses the 'vette of being a poorly conceived idea. In fact it is one of the first and only Chevy cars for a very long time that I think is interesting, and that I might actually buy were I in the market. If they make a smaller, downscale version I think it would sell very well.
 
2013-01-04 05:36:44 PM  

Ed_Severson: Does it offend your sensibilities that somebody thinks a car is boring?


No, not at all. I just think you're a ridiculous and silly person. Have a nice day, Guy Who Thinks A Volt Should Go Faster Than 100 MPH.

Ed_Severson: I know how to drive a farking car. I know how to do it safely, at an appropriate speed, and I know exactly when and where to get my driving jollies, and trust me, there's no shortage of opportunities to do exactly that without driving on a public road or endangering anyone who didn't volunteer to go along for the ride.


Ed_Severson: Nope. Never claimed to be a driver, and I am in fact not one.

 
2013-01-04 05:37:38 PM  

Smidge204: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Know what happens when the battery goes dead in a Volt?

/you can't unlock the doors
//how annoying
///especially if your phone is locked inside

Which battery? There's more than one. Not that it really matters, because the Volt has a regular key lock on the Driver's door like nearly every other car on the market...
=Smidge=


I admit I heard the story secondhand, but apparently the blue-tooth didn't shut down and drained the battery that runs the lights, etc. The way the story was told, the guy couldn't get into the car.
Exaggeration is definite possibility

/would be kind of dismaying to press the fob button and have nothing happen, though
 
2013-01-04 05:40:03 PM  
I'd be curious to see the geographic distribution of the purchases.

Like most people (I imagine) once I've bought or driven a specific make and model of car I tend to notice them more frequently when I'm on the road. Other than the other Volts in the fleet over the summer, I can't remember having seen even one here in Indy, where the Prius is not at all uncommon.
 
2013-01-04 05:41:38 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Smidge204: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Know what happens when the battery goes dead in a Volt?

/you can't unlock the doors
//how annoying
///especially if your phone is locked inside

Which battery? There's more than one. Not that it really matters, because the Volt has a regular key lock on the Driver's door like nearly every other car on the market...
=Smidge=

I admit I heard the story secondhand, but apparently the blue-tooth didn't shut down and drained the battery that runs the lights, etc. The way the story was told, the guy couldn't get into the car.
Exaggeration is definite possibility

/would be kind of dismaying to press the fob button and have nothing happen, though


was this the same guy who locked his keys outside his car?
 
2013-01-04 05:44:57 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: No, not at all. I just think you're a ridiculous and silly person.


Congratulations to you, Lady Who Thinks Her Impressions Of Other People Matter.
 
2013-01-04 06:00:11 PM  

Ed_Severson: Nope. Never claimed to be a driver, and I am in fact not one. I just work with them.

Anything else?


How about this statement earlier in the thread?

Ed_Severson: I know how to drive a farking car. I know how to do it safely, at an appropriate speed, and I know exactly when and where to get my driving jollies, and trust me, there's no shortage of opportunities to do exactly that without driving on a public road or endangering anyone who didn't volunteer to go along for the ride.


So, you're not a driver, but you play one on TV? The only thing worse than someone bragging is when that person has to back down from it...that's just sad.
 
2013-01-04 06:05:08 PM  

Ed_Severson: Congratulations to you, Lady Who Thinks Her Impressions Of Other People Matter.


Well, thank you, Guy Who Incorrectly Assumes Gender In Other Posters.

Do you need to carry around extra luggage to hold all of that Fail or does it all fit in your pockets?
 
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