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(Washington Post)   "So while the 112th Congress was surely one of the most broken and incompetent in our history, the worst is probably yet to come"   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 121
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2013-01-04 01:04:45 PM  
I almost kinda/sorta expect this session of congress to try and mount an armed revolution against Obama.  the tea party folks are nutballs.  nutballs who lost badly and appear to be losing ground with the rest of the country.  crazy people who feel trapped tend to do crazy things.
 
2013-01-04 01:13:06 PM  
We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this

/a vote of you-must-be-joking, as it were
 
2013-01-04 01:16:35 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this

/a vote of you-must-be-joking, as it were


I think we're stuck with 'em.  I very much expect the GOP to be even MORE difficult to work with in this next session of congress than they were in the last one.
 
2013-01-04 01:22:01 PM  
of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.
 
2013-01-04 01:22:44 PM  

Weaver95: MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this

/a vote of you-must-be-joking, as it were

I think we're stuck with 'em.  I very much expect the GOP to be even MORE difficult to work with in this next session of congress than they were in the last one.


It will be interesting to watch.
WHAT will it take for moderate republicans to flee their caucus and vote with the democrats?
They would only need 34 votes to wrest control from boner.
Or have all the moderate republicans already left the building?
 
2013-01-04 01:22:47 PM  
I just want to know how Michelle Bachman kept her job.

Are they THAT stupid up in Minnesota?
 
2013-01-04 01:26:59 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.


I know...that whole 'democracy' thing really gets in the way of the GOP's theocracy don't it?  don't worry though - if current trends continue, the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by a large enough majority to simply bypass the religious nutballs and get some stuff done for a change.
 
2013-01-04 01:33:58 PM  

Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.

I know...that whole 'democracy' thing really gets in the way of the GOP's theocracy don't it?  don't worry though - if current trends continue, the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by a large enough majority to simply bypass the religious nutballs and get some stuff done for a change.


So how are the nutballs stopping the senate from forming a budget?
 
2013-01-04 01:37:09 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.


I know!  The Republicanians have been bending over backwards to get things done, but them mean ol' democraticians just refuse to cooperate!
 
2013-01-04 01:45:27 PM  
I fully expect another credit rating downgrade within the next two years. Thanks in advance, Tea Party.
 
2013-01-04 01:45:50 PM  

themindiswatching: I fully expect another credit rating downgrade within the next two years. Thanks in advance, Tea Party.


I expect it within the next 2 months
 
2013-01-04 01:55:47 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this

/a vote of you-must-be-joking, as it were


No kidding. How does a no-confidence vote work for parliaments? That should've been written into our Constitution.

"All right, every single one of you -- get your things and get out. The Capitol Guards start shooting in exactly 3 minutes! Don't bother wiping your hard drives, we have backups."
 
2013-01-04 01:56:00 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.

I know...that whole 'democracy' thing really gets in the way of the GOP's theocracy don't it?  don't worry though - if current trends continue, the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by a large enough majority to simply bypass the religious nutballs and get some stuff done for a change.

So how are the nutballs stopping the senate from forming a budget?


Would you provide me with your interpretation of the budgeting process?  With special attention to the part where the Senate can simply "form a budget"?
Thanks.
 
2013-01-04 01:56:13 PM  
i48.tinypic.com

jesus, these people are becoming nuttier by the minute.
 
2013-01-04 02:01:39 PM  
I really think the Republicans should consider nominating Pelosi for Speaker. That woman breaks arms and makes grown men cry. If you want something done in the House, Nancy needs to be in charge again.
 
2013-01-04 02:01:45 PM  
Yeah, but this is the year we finally get that Obama guy.
 
2013-01-04 02:01:55 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.

I know...that whole 'democracy' thing really gets in the way of the GOP's theocracy don't it?  don't worry though - if current trends continue, the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by a large enough majority to simply bypass the religious nutballs and get some stuff done for a change.

So how are the nutballs stopping the senate from forming a budget?


um...the House puts the budget together, not the senate.  you know that, right?  PLEASE tell me you know that!
 
2013-01-04 02:03:52 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: themindiswatching: I fully expect another credit rating downgrade within the next two years. Thanks in advance, Tea Party.

I expect it within the next 2 months


yup.  the tea party seem hell bent on destroying this country, then blaming the Democrats for the inevitable collapse of western society.
 
2013-01-04 02:05:09 PM  

FlashHarry: [i48.tinypic.com image 296x248]

jesus, these people are becoming nuttier by the minute.


I love it. "Theatre of the Unhinged."

It's like every nightmare they ever had in the 50s came true, except for mummies and Godzilla. A neeegro is president? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
 
2013-01-04 02:09:43 PM  
One of the most brokent?   It's not like they've impeached a president or shut down the governement.  Once they do that, then you can call them one of the most broken.
 
2013-01-04 02:11:30 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I really think the Republicans should consider nominating Pelosi for Speaker. That woman breaks arms and makes grown men cry. If you want something done in the House, Nancy needs to be in charge again.


if they did secret ballots and had open nominations, this would be SO FARKING EPIC
but they wont
not while they can do what they did the last 2 years ....
 
2013-01-04 02:18:59 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this


God I wish there were term limits on Congress too. The few that do good would be worth eliminating for all the crap we put up with, like voting records based on what can be campaigned with. I voted for no incumbents this past election and it didn't do a bit of good.
 
2013-01-04 02:24:26 PM  

namatad: ecmoRandomNumbers: I really think the Republicans should consider nominating Pelosi for Speaker. That woman breaks arms and makes grown men cry. If you want something done in the House, Nancy needs to be in charge again.

if they did secret ballots and had open nominations, this would be SO FARKING EPIC
but they wont
not while they can do what they did the last 2 years ....


One can dream. :(
 
2013-01-04 02:33:28 PM  

Gig103: MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this

God I wish there were term limits on Congress too. The few that do good would be worth eliminating for all the crap we put up with, like voting records based on what can be campaigned with. I voted for no incumbents this past election and it didn't do a bit of good.


Look how long it took god to wrestle Strom Thurmond off this mortal coil. Jesus H. Christ, he was in office before my mother was even born. And then I think of guys like Daniel Inouye. He was around forever, too. Those are the guys you don't want to get rid of. There's the Elder Statesman, and then there's the WISE Elder Statesman. We're really lacking in the latter, I'm afraid.
 
2013-01-04 02:49:45 PM  

Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.

I know...that whole 'democracy' thing really gets in the way of the GOP's theocracy don't it?  don't worry though - if current trends continue, the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by a large enough majority to simply bypass the religious nutballs and get some stuff done for a change.

So how are the nutballs stopping the senate from forming a budget?

um...the House puts the budget together, not the senate.  you know that, right?  PLEASE tell me you know that!


yes i know that. Pre lunch blood sugar crash

Mock me. I deserve it on that one

/still dont think the democrats do anything productive.
 
2013-01-04 02:54:56 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: The Stealth Hippopotamus: of course it is going to be worse. It's got more democratics in it.

I know...that whole 'democracy' thing really gets in the way of the GOP's theocracy don't it?  don't worry though - if current trends continue, the Democrats will outnumber the Republicans by a large enough majority to simply bypass the religious nutballs and get some stuff done for a change.

So how are the nutballs stopping the senate from forming a budget?

um...the House puts the budget together, not the senate.  you know that, right?  PLEASE tell me you know that!

yes i know that. Pre lunch blood sugar crash

Mock me. I deserve it on that one

/still dont think the democrats do anything productive.


...so vote Republican, because...because they do...?
 
2013-01-04 02:56:55 PM  
I am demoralized.  2013 is already a disaster.

You may be pissed that they didn't vote for the Hurricane Sandy Relief bill, but keep in mind it was a $60B bill.  $51B was unrelated pork.  $9B was Sandy Relief.  Why can't they make a Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill that is only Hurricane Sandy Relief and not mostly unrelated pork?
 
2013-01-04 03:02:56 PM  
Yes, yes, yes, we can all biatch about how much we hate Congress. The problem is that Congress isn't one person, so saying you hate Congress really doesn't mean much.
 
2013-01-04 03:03:15 PM  
My Congress person isn't the problem, It's the other guy so I'll continue to vote for my Congresswoman until they die in office and just hope your district is smart enough to vote yours out.
 
2013-01-04 03:04:26 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I just want to know how Michelle Bachman kept her job.

Are they THAT stupid up in Minnesota?


Gerrymandering

www.thepoliticalguide.com
 
2013-01-04 03:05:12 PM  
At least Obama got a bunch of appointment approved yesterday. Reid pushed them through the Senate while no one was looking.
 
2013-01-04 03:06:36 PM  

SlothB77: I am demoralized.  2013 is already a disaster.

You may be pissed that they didn't vote for the Hurricane Sandy Relief bill, but keep in mind it was a $60B bill.  $51B was unrelated pork.  $9B was Sandy Relief.  Why can't they make a Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill that is only Hurricane Sandy Relief and not mostly unrelated pork?


a discussion on appropriate levels of aid would have been more than acceptable. the problem was that the GOP didn't...even...bother...to discuss the issue.  they dropped it completely.  simply abandoned storm victims in New York and New Jersey.  just casually brush 'em off, as if the storm damage in those areas wasn't of any real concern.

there is something seriously and deeply flawed at the core of the Republican party.  i'm not talking about ideology (although the Republican ideology is a fractured, insane mess of paradox and douchebaggery), i'm talking about the ability to develop operational goals and plan for contingencies.  the Republicans seem to have lost the ability - institutionally mind you - to follow even their own plan of action and make progress to achieving their own goals.  they dropped the ball on aid to hurricane victims, and now they seem surprised that people are pissed off about it.  that's nuts.  I don't know what's the cause of their incompetence, but there is something flawed and very, very wrong with the GOP leadership.
 
2013-01-04 03:07:12 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Yeah, but this is the year we finally get that Obama guy.


Well, *I'm* convinced. I'll certainly never vote Obama in for a third term.
 
2013-01-04 03:07:18 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I just want to know how Michelle Bachman kept her job.

Are they THAT stupid up in Minnesota?


Gerrymandering. FARKers that live in her district have explained that it is a vortex of pure, unadulterated derp. Her constituents are just as batshiat crazy, ignorant and deranged as she is, so they will continuously reward her ridiculous posturing because that's exactly what they want from her.

She has passed no bills. She is a continuous embarrassment with her compulsive inability to tell the truth, and is currently clogging up Congress with yet another bill to repeal Obamacare.

And sadly, she ain't going anywhere. She just came off a disastrous presidential run, and still she retained her seat. It's the closest she's ever come to losing it, but I just don't see it getting any better.
 
2013-01-04 03:07:43 PM  

Pick13: DjangoStonereaver: I just want to know how Michelle Bachman kept her job.

Are they THAT stupid up in Minnesota?

Gerrymandering

[www.thepoliticalguide.com image 635x379]


I've seen much worse. It follows the county lines for the most part.
 
2013-01-04 03:08:19 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: ...so vote Republican, because...because they do...?




Democrats say the answer is government. And then try to fix things. And just mess things up more

Republicans (should) say that government is the problem, lets us get out of the way. And they do nothing.

So, for one party doing nothing is doing something.

I think Congress should only be allowed to meet for one month a year, how much damage could they cause in a month?
 
2013-01-04 03:11:13 PM  
"So while the 112th Congress was surely one of the most broken and incompetent in our history, the worst is probably yet to come"

113th Congress: Challege accepted!
 
2013-01-04 03:12:25 PM  

minoridiot: One of the most brokent?   It's not like they've impeached a president or shut down the governement.  Once they do that, then you can call them one of the most broken.


Give 'em time. A week or two oughta do it.
 
2013-01-04 03:13:10 PM  
The Stealth Hippopotamus:
/still dont think the democrats do anything productive.

it's gotta be difficult to be any kind of productive when the GOP literally believes that your party is an agent of supernatural evil.
 
2013-01-04 03:16:29 PM  
Look like progress to me.

www.washingtonpost.com

When, O, when will we have enough laws?

Oh, and the IRS has a 40% favorability reason? WUT?
 
2013-01-04 03:16:29 PM  

Weaver95: it's gotta be difficult to be any kind of productive when the GOP Democratic Party literally believes that your party is an agent of supernatural evil.


/FTFY
 
2013-01-04 03:17:46 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: We need a mechanism to recall the entire House under circumstances like this

/a vote of you-must-be-joking, as it were


We already have that. It's called an election. Every single one of those retards in the House was up for election in November, and we sent the vast majority of them right back to Washington. Want to make it better? Stop re-electing these farktards. We the people have spoken, and what we said was "Please sir, may I have another?". We have both the government that we deserve and the one that we voted for. We have chosen, by and large, to be led by a group of greedy, corrupt, morally bankrupt sociopaths who are far more concerned about their own wealth and power than they are about our nation, and then we act surprised when they screw us over to gain favor from the power brokers who helped get them elected. It's like sticking a rabid weasel down your pants and then being all shocked and indignant when it bites your junk.
 
2013-01-04 03:19:34 PM  

Phoenix_M: Weaver95: it's gotta be difficult to be any kind of productive when the GOP Democratic Party literally believes that your party is an agent of supernatural evil.

/FTFY


this is what some Republicans actually believe.
 
2013-01-04 03:20:36 PM  

minoridiot: One of the most brokent?   It's not like they've impeached a president or shut down the governement.  Once they do that, then you can call them one of the most broken.


I was kind of thinking the same thing. It's probably not the "most broken".
 
2013-01-04 03:21:45 PM  

jigger: Look like progress to me.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 586x385]

When, O, when will we have enough laws?

Oh, and the IRS has a 40% favorability reason? WUT?


I think level-headed people know that the IRS doesn't create tax law, they just carry it out. Also, this isn't the IRS of 20 years ago. I delt with an issue a few years ago and the experience was fine, the people were friendly and helpful.
 
2013-01-04 03:22:32 PM  
Someone needs to deliver a ton of prunes to congress, the only thing which can explain all this is constipation.
 
2013-01-04 03:22:37 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Are they THAT stupid up in Minnesota?


They're that gerrymandered. But yes, stupid has a lot to do with it as well.
 
2013-01-04 03:24:41 PM  

Phony_Soldier: minoridiot: One of the most brokent?   It's not like they've impeached a president or shut down the governement.  Once they do that, then you can call them one of the most broken.

I was kind of thinking the same thing. It's probably not the "most broken".


Yet
 
2013-01-04 03:25:00 PM  

Pick13: DjangoStonereaver: I just want to know how Michelle Bachman kept her job.

Are they THAT stupid up in Minnesota?

Gerrymandering

[www.thepoliticalguide.com image 635x379]


The fact that she almost lost this this district after out spending almost 12 to 1 speaks volumes about how disliked she is.
 
2013-01-04 03:26:15 PM  

Poison Appleseeds: I think level-headed people know that the IRS doesn't create tax law, they just carry it out. Also, this isn't the IRS of 20 years ago. I delt with an issue a few years ago and the experience was fine, the people were friendly and helpful.


The IRS is made up of mostly competent workers who are trying to do their jobs. It's a necessary job, but a job I don't love.

Congress, on the other hand, is made up of people who belong on an elementary school short bus.
 
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