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2013-01-04 05:58:35 PM

Nem Wan: Let me guess.... Apple doesn't let the user "customize" the software enough to create an interface and workflow that makes no sense to anyone but that user and would be completely ugly and unusable to anyone else. Gee that's a shame.


Are we also supposed to furnish our homes with the same standard issued furniture and decor, lest we run the risk of someone who doesn't live in our house finding it ugly/clumsy?

I generally joke about the cloned mentallity of Apple Fanbois,but all jokes aside the hivemind mentality is fascinating (and scary) to watch.
 
2013-01-04 06:29:33 PM

OriginalGamer: Not according to any benchmark I've seen.


I'm going to have to alert the irony police here. For YEARS the mantra has been " benchmarks don't matter, it's about the whole user experience!!! "
 
2013-01-04 06:35:44 PM
My friend has a Nokia Lumia 920 running the mobile windows thingie. It's pretty farking amazing and blows away my cheapo android phone and any iPhone I've ever seen.
 
2013-01-04 06:43:02 PM

jigger: My friend has a Nokia Lumia 920 running the mobile windows thingie. It's pretty farking amazing and blows away my cheapo android phone and any iPhone I've ever seen.


We live in amazing times. After supporting some windows phones a few years ago I swore never again - but I'll admit the newest iteration is actually quite nice. From my perspective, the war is over and everybody won.
 
2013-01-04 06:45:25 PM
Yes, the basis for happiness lies in the choice of cell phone
 
2013-01-04 06:51:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-04 07:24:17 PM
I also switched to the Nexus 4 from an iPhone and love it. It took me about 3 days to get everything customized the way I like it and now I couldn't switch back.
 
2013-01-04 07:40:14 PM

InmanRoshi: Nem Wan: Let me guess.... Apple doesn't let the user "customize" the software enough to create an interface and workflow that makes no sense to anyone but that user and would be completely ugly and unusable to anyone else. Gee that's a shame.

Are we also supposed to furnish our homes with the same standard issued furniture and decor, lest we run the risk of someone who doesn't live in our house finding it ugly/clumsy?

I generally joke about the cloned mentallity of Apple Fanbois,but all jokes aside the hivemind mentality is fascinating (and scary) to watch.


What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.

/but mostly you're just tools
 
2013-01-04 07:56:59 PM

bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.


They even made me eat kimchi last night.
It was good, but still. I hate how they control my mind and make me think that iPhones aren't the greatest thing ever.
 
2013-01-04 08:58:27 PM
I love my Apple products, from the 27 inch iMac, to the new iPhone, to the Apple TV.

Apple is what I've chosen to go with.

I have no ill will to anyone who likes Android. You buy what you like.

/Windows Phone, on the other hand...
 
2013-01-04 08:58:52 PM
FWIT: I've had a Razr Android and a i4 and the Razr was a better piece of equipment.

It ran better, 'felt' better and was easier to use than the i4.
 
2013-01-04 09:55:52 PM
the only thing worth less than a fanboy is a fanboy who blogs about switching products
 
2013-01-04 10:02:47 PM

0Icky0: bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.

They even made me eat kimchi last night.
It was good, but still. I hate how they control my mind and make me think that iPhones aren't the greatest thing ever.


Apparently they also made you miss the point. I don't believe that iPhones are the greatest thing ever. I have never said that. I want people to think for themselves, instead of stumbling around like zombies moaning "Apple sucks! Maps bad! Walled garden!"
 
kab
2013-01-04 10:07:23 PM

bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.


Better than that must be the shiat-eating grins on the faces of service providers that saddle both camps with absurdly overpriced contracts.

Keep defending the honor of your gadgets, savvy consumers. It will all pay off someday.
 
2013-01-04 10:20:21 PM

bingethinker: 0Icky0: bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.

They even made me eat kimchi last night.
It was good, but still. I hate how they control my mind and make me think that iPhones aren't the greatest thing ever.

Apparently they also made you miss the point. I don't believe that iPhones are the greatest thing ever. I have never said that. I want people to think for themselves, instead of stumbling around like zombies moaning "Apple sucks! Maps bad! Walled garden!"


Ah.. Bingethinker, the Linux_Yes of Apple.

i478.photobucket.com
Can you ever do or say anything productive?
 
2013-01-04 10:38:31 PM
He's German. He also prefers videos of women eating feces.
 
2013-01-04 10:52:49 PM

kab: bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.


Better than that must be the shiat-eating grins on the faces of service providers that saddle both camps with absurdly overpriced contracts.

Keep defending the honor of your gadgets, savvy consumers. It will all pay off someday.


$30 a month for unlimited data/txt and 100 minutes voice isn't absurdly overpriced.
 
2013-01-04 11:12:53 PM
TFA is basically a list of features that were introduced in android 2.x and 3.x and how they make Android superior to iOS.

/if they make android superior to iOS then android has been superior to iOS for close to two years and the farktards at gizmodo were just too slow to notice.
//On the other hand if Android is not in fact superior to iOS than the farktards at gizmodo are morons.
///either way it's not looking good for gizmodo.
 
2013-01-04 11:54:50 PM
I'm an ihater, but the only thing that android really has over ios is the cross app integration. If i'm consuming content on my gs3, it's generally reddit on reddit synch(beautiful app) and I like to text non-redditing friends some images/gifs that I find funny or gross. Android makes this ridiculously easy. That same screen is also available everywhere, and also adds other appropriate apps like Pocket or Dropbox or Twitter to it. If ios7 doesn't get that going, apple is just being willfully assholish.

I've played with my wife's iphone 5 and there is a lot to like about it though, except the ui is definitely dated(I imagine this is first to change for ios7). It's faster(browser comparison is embarrassing), the camera is lightyears better(i'm told this is because I rooted and cyanogen'd my gs3), and the cool new games always come out for iphone first/only. Battery is kicking my ass too(again probably because of cm).

I customized my phone to my tastes but who really gives a shiat about that. But the cross app integration, the extra non-screen buttons, the task manager make it tough to give up my toy to the admittedly superior hardware of the iphone5.
 
2013-01-05 12:00:50 AM

bingethinker: InmanRoshi: Nem Wan: Let me guess.... Apple doesn't let the user "customize" the software enough to create an interface and workflow that makes no sense to anyone but that user and would be completely ugly and unusable to anyone else. Gee that's a shame.

Are we also supposed to furnish our homes with the same standard issued furniture and decor, lest we run the risk of someone who doesn't live in our house finding it ugly/clumsy?

I generally joke about the cloned mentallity of Apple Fanbois,but all jokes aside the hivemind mentality is fascinating (and scary) to watch.

What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.

/but mostly you're just tools


You can never avoid one of these threads can you?

/fandroid fandroid fandroid fandroid  fandroid  fandroid fandroid  fandroid fandroid fandroid  fandroid fandroid  fandroid
 
2013-01-05 12:35:01 AM

OriginalGamer: kingflower: Gizmodo anti-apple click bait...

As opposed to Fark anti-apple click bait?

Here I'll sum up how these threads always go:

"HA! Apple users are just retarded hipsters who buy shiny things!"

and

"HA! Android users are all Linux neckbeards who don't care about design!"


ie: Both Sides are Bad, so Vote Apple!
 
2013-01-05 02:47:55 AM

rthanu: I'm an ihater, but the only thing that android really has over ios is the cross app integration. If i'm consuming content on my gs3, it's generally reddit on reddit synch(beautiful app) and I like to text non-redditing friends some images/gifs that I find funny or gross. Android makes this ridiculously easy. That same screen is also available everywhere, and also adds other appropriate apps like Pocket or Dropbox or Twitter to it. If ios7 doesn't get that going, apple is just being willfully assholish.

I've played with my wife's iphone 5 and there is a lot to like about it though, except the ui is definitely dated(I imagine this is first to change for ios7). It's faster(browser comparison is embarrassing), the camera is lightyears better(i'm told this is because I rooted and cyanogen'd my gs3), and the cool new games always come out for iphone first/only. Battery is kicking my ass too(again probably because of cm).

I customized my phone to my tastes but who really gives a shiat about that. But the cross app integration, the extra non-screen buttons, the task manager make it tough to give up my toy to the admittedly superior hardware of the iphone5.


You realize that you're comparing a 8ish month old last-generation phone (the Cortex-A9) to a barely 3 month old (Cortex-A15) current gen device, yes? I'd imagine if you compared a like-for-like, Android would likely come out on top ( http://www.phonearena.com/news/Browser-Wars-Speed---Benchmark-comparis on_id33501 ). Yes, this suffers the same problem as your comparison, but that's almost double the benchmark speed despite probably a ~400MHz gap in CPU speed?.

Back when I had a Nexus One, the browser was faster despite being 6 months older than the next gen i device (see most benchmarks) -- even with Flash!
 
2013-01-05 02:53:26 AM
he probably just likes something different. tl;only read half
 
2013-01-05 09:44:49 AM

Carth: kab: bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.


Better than that must be the shiat-eating grins on the faces of service providers that saddle both camps with absurdly overpriced contracts.

Keep defending the honor of your gadgets, savvy consumers. It will all pay off someday.

$30 a month for unlimited data/txt and 100 minutes voice isn't absurdly overpriced.


I spend that amount and get 2000 cross network minutes, also 5000 minutes if I call someone on the same network (A lot of my calls) and unlimited data. 7000 minutes/txts a month, unlimited data...

basically I will never approach my limits so my plan is just "Use what you like, it doesn`t matter. really."

Yes, your plan is absurdly overpriced.
 
2013-01-05 10:53:18 AM
If you come by my house, you'd find four of the latest Apple TVs, two iMacs, the latest MacBook Air, a MacBook Pro, more than five AirPort Express stations and Apple's Time Capsule. You could touch every single iPhone, from the first up to the iPhone 5, iPads ranging from first generation to fourth and we recently added two iPad minis.

Call yourself an Apple fanboy without a single Apple II computer? Stupid newbie.
 
2013-01-05 11:29:21 AM

bingethinker: I want people to think for themselves, instead of stumbling around like zombies moaning "Apple sucks! Maps bad! Walled garden!"


So the Maps are good, are they?
 
2013-01-05 01:44:46 PM
Apple threads are always 80% retards anyway.

/Apple user
//FU
 
2013-01-05 01:54:19 PM
For years, what you could do with Android, simply yielded awful looking home screens.

What kind of "pro user" IS this guy? I've tried plenty of launchers, and had plenty of home screen configurations. Apple has ONE option, only changed by the number of apps on it. That's "superior" to Android? The guy obviously has no idea what he's talking about. iPhones can be "customized" by changing the wallpaper and the number of apps on the home screen. With an Android, you can change the launcher, the email app, the messaging app, add live wallpapers, and even change the keyboard, just to name a few.

I'm sorry, this guy doesn't know shiat about Android, despite his professed experience as a "professional".
 
2013-01-05 03:01:27 PM

dready zim: Carth: kab: bingethinker: What I find amusing is iHaters who think they're individuals, when all they're doing is parroting the lame propaganda pumped into their empty little heads. You're all just tools of Samsung's marketing department.


Better than that must be the shiat-eating grins on the faces of service providers that saddle both camps with absurdly overpriced contracts.

Keep defending the honor of your gadgets, savvy consumers. It will all pay off someday.

$30 a month for unlimited data/txt and 100 minutes voice isn't absurdly overpriced.

I spend that amount and get 2000 cross network minutes, also 5000 minutes if I call someone on the same network (A lot of my calls) and unlimited data. 7000 minutes/txts a month, unlimited data...

basically I will never approach my limits so my plan is just "Use what you like, it doesn`t matter. really."

Yes, your plan is absurdly overpriced.


Considering last month I used 0 minutes and a little over 100 gigs of data I am ok with the price. I had better plans living in Japan and South Korea but considering how much larger America is to cover with 4G i don't mind the premium.
 
2013-01-05 03:42:07 PM
I went with the S3 over the iPhone 5 and I'm glad I did. It's just better in every way, I think the 5 has more PPI but on something this small I don't think it really matters. It's blazingly fast and has double the storage and RAM of the iPhone. Also more customizable. At the end of the day though I would give an iPhone to somebody who just wants a telephone and an S3 to somebody who is capable of using a smartphone. I guess it's whatever you're comfortable with. Also, having a back button is a lot more intuitive.
 
2013-01-07 11:56:59 AM
Real question regarding his main drawback and one that I would have:

Is there an Android answer to iMessenger?

I have group conversations on iMessenger with my family all the time. We share photos, joke around, whatever. It's a great thing to have.

I also send pictures and stuff to my fiance's family all the time (they all have Android phones). It sends out as a group MMS and when one of them replies they don't reply to all. I don't know if they CAN reply to all, but they don't either way. It works for passing out a media file to everyone, but it loses the group conversation.

Does Android have a messenger solution that isn't SMS or MMS based (besides Google Talk), especially one that uses the phone number so the participants only have to have a phone instead of sign up for some service? Does Google Talk allow for group conversations the same way (I've never had one on Google Talk)?
 
2013-01-07 12:05:27 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: I'll argue (strongly) the uglier part. Post 4.0 Android can look better- much better. My old DroidX running 2.3 is clunky looking compared to my iPad, but after using my Nexus 7 for a while going back to the iPad is bad. There are some beautiful live widgets for Android, and with a bit of tweaking you can get a system that's far more elegant looking than the boring old "grid of squares".


One thing I do love on my Nexus 7 was putting HD widgets and simple calendar on the home screen. I'm not exactly a power user on the thing, but I don't have to open a single app to see (or access) the time (and clock app), date (and calendar app), current and upcoming weather (and weather app). Thus I could also take those icons off the screen as they are no longer necessary.

Also, I put basically the same HD widget on my lock screen, so I have the same time/date/weather display without even unlocking it.

Making the time display on the home screen bigger is just nice. Putting the weather on the home screen is nice... not entirely necessary but why not make it viewable at a glance?

Putting my calendar on the home screen was a coup. Even though I obviously can access my calendar any time on my iPhone, my Nexus actually visibly reminds me when I have an event coming up without me having to think to look (or remember to set up a notification).

These are little things, but I have always wished I could at least make the clock on my iPhone lock screen more prominent.
 
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