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(Berkshire Eagle)   Obama 2008: "I can make a firm pledge. No family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." Subby's first paycheck, 2013: WTF?   (berkshireeagle.com) divider line 519
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2013-01-04 08:03:53 AM
Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.
 
2013-01-04 08:07:53 AM

RexTalionis: Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.


$10-30 times 26 paychecks is not negligible. $780 is a month's mortgage/rent payment in a lot of the country.
 
2013-01-04 08:08:15 AM
The payroll taxes will go up to the level that they were when Obama took office.

Promise:  kept.
 
2013-01-04 08:11:03 AM
I too remember the halcyon days of early 2013, Subby.  Indeed, we lived in a simpler time then.

Do you think we will ever get those days back?


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2013-01-04 08:11:21 AM
Bullshiat, you didn't get a check today.
 
2013-01-04 08:15:57 AM
Wow.  That comment got jarked.
 
2013-01-04 08:16:29 AM
Payroll taxes are the same they were in 2008.  Not a penny more.  Just be thankful that you got a break between then and now.
 
2013-01-04 08:31:26 AM
Hey, Subby, is it your math or your memory that is failing you?
 
2013-01-04 08:33:09 AM
Any excuse to scream at the Black Man in the White House, those Teahadists will run with.
 
2013-01-04 08:34:18 AM
I checked my paystub yesterday - as someone who makes low (as in barely) six figs, the only thing that went up was my SS payroll tax which was a paltry 2%. But go right ahead and pee your pants more about high taxes...
 
2013-01-04 08:42:00 AM
I think FICA went up a bit, that's about it.  I don't mind paying higher taxes, as long as those with even more means also do.  My taxes are way too low, all of ours are.
 
2013-01-04 08:43:31 AM

Elzar: I checked my paystub yesterday - as someone who makes low (as in barely) six figs, the only thing that went up was my SS payroll tax which was a paltry 2%. But go right ahead and pee your pants more about high taxes...


I'm making a third of that, and if paying 2% more means that I have to scrape by for the first few years of my career so my parents can retire as they've planned, I'm perfectly okay with it.
 
2013-01-04 08:43:56 AM

GAT_00: Bullshiat, you didn't get a check today.


Who gets paid for that week anyway?
 
2013-01-04 08:44:30 AM
I remember when quotation marks meant something.
 
2013-01-04 08:49:22 AM

hillbillypharmacist: The payroll taxes will go up to the level that they were when Obama took office.

Promise:  kept.


This.  You got that payroll tax deduction in what, 2010?  After he made that promise.  So technically, Obama's correct, your taxes haven't gone up since 2008.  And technically is the best kind of correct.
 
2013-01-04 08:52:16 AM

GAT_00: Bullshiat, you didn't get a check today.


actually, I have direct deposit.
 
2013-01-04 08:54:28 AM

GAT_00: Bullshiat, you didn't get a check today.


Today is a payday if you get paid every two weeks.
 
2013-01-04 08:57:50 AM

SilentStrider: GAT_00: Bullshiat, you didn't get a check today.

actually, I have direct deposit.


Same here, mine was deposited yesterday.
 
2013-01-04 08:59:24 AM

Gulper Eel: RexTalionis: Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.

$10-30 times 26 paychecks is not negligible. $780 is a month's mortgage/rent payment in a lot of the country.


If you're making $100K and only paying $780 a month in rent, you can probably figure out how to squeeze $15/week out of your budget.
 
2013-01-04 09:00:44 AM
Congress happened, subby.  Congress happened.
 
2013-01-04 09:01:19 AM

JacksonBryan: SilentStrider: GAT_00: Bullshiat, you didn't get a check today.

actually, I have direct deposit.

Same here, mine was deposited yesterday.


Hmm.  I don't know, I get paid the last Friday of every month these days.  Well, last business Friday, which meant I got paid on 12/21 last month.  I don't have to keep track of the biweekly system for another 5 months.
 
2013-01-04 09:02:12 AM
If you didn't already know this was going to happen, subby, and understand why, you're probably entirely too stupid for whatever job you have, anyway. That would be my guess.
 
2013-01-04 09:04:26 AM
Two days ago, I looked at the IRS "notice 1036" which had just been released, and was supposed to be the new tax tables for 2013.

Not only did the FICA return to 6.2% (as expected), but the 10% and 25% tax brackets had been removed, and my own federal withholding tax was going to increase by several dollars per week, by my calculations. I didn't like it, but was resigned to it.

HOWEVER, today I looked at the *latest* version of that "notice 1036", which is revised since two days ago. The old tax brackets are back in place, and my own withholding tax is actually a couple dollars LESS than it was in 2012.

So after all that, I almost feel like I have gotten a bonus, despite the FICA returning to its old level.
 
2013-01-04 09:06:15 AM

Tell Me How My Blog Tastes: Today is a payday if you get paid every two weeks.


Not for me, it isn't.  Next Thursday will be our first pay of 2013.
 
2013-01-04 09:06:57 AM
And I want to page mrs.sharpier to this thread to read my boobies, because I led her wrong two days ago, when I was looking at that original N1036.

So go ahead, hon. Look at my boobies.
 
2013-01-04 09:13:38 AM

RexTalionis: Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.


an extra 2% is about $70 a paycheck less for us. It really freaking blows as there was no raise last year.
 
2013-01-04 09:17:34 AM

Gwendolyn: RexTalionis: Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.

an extra 2% is about $70 a paycheck less for us. It really freaking blows as there was no raise last year.


Okay, but at that point, we're talking about making, what, $3500 per paycheck?
 
2013-01-04 09:28:16 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Gulper Eel: RexTalionis: Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.

$10-30 times 26 paychecks is not negligible. $780 is a month's mortgage/rent payment in a lot of the country.

If you're making $100K and only paying $780 a month in rent, you can probably figure out how to squeeze $15/week out of your budget.


True enough, but cut those numbers in half for something closer to the national median salary...and it's still a decent chunk of change. Yeah, it's something people should have been prepping for, but in a recession that can be a biatch. I would have liked to see the payroll tax rate stay at 4.2 while applying to more income, maybe coupled with a small cut in income tax rates on the low end.
 
2013-01-04 09:31:07 AM

hillbillypharmacist: The payroll taxes will go up to the level that they were when Obama took office.

Promise:  kept.


THIS.
 
2013-01-04 09:33:00 AM

Gulper Eel: I would have liked to see the payroll tax rate stay at 4.2 while applying to more income, maybe coupled with a small cut in income tax rates on the low end.


I'm on board with Robert Reich's idea:

We need to put more money into the pockets of average workers, not less. The first $25,000 of income should be exempt from Social Security taxes altogether, and we should make up the difference by eliminating the ceiling on income subject to Social Security taxes.  Link
 
2013-01-04 09:35:04 AM
2013: WTF?! My Social Security taxes are too high!

2043: Hey! How come Social Security has no money?
 
2013-01-04 09:35:29 AM
Because I am the guy here who prepares the W-2's for everyone, I have the numbers available to do my tax returns as soon as the year ends.

I always use H&R Block online, and e-file my stuff as soon as the IRS starts accepting returns. So I already filled out my return and am ready to file that biatch. But for some reason, H&R Block says I can't complete my return until January 18, because the fcucking "schedule D" form won't be available until then.

WTF? I can see the 2012 schedule D on the IRS site. What's holding H&R Block up?
 
2013-01-04 09:35:37 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: I'm on board with Robert Reich's idea:

We need to put more money into the pockets of average workers, not less. The first $25,000 of income should be exempt from Social Security taxes altogether, and we should make up the difference by eliminating the ceiling on income subject to Social Security taxes. Link


That is a reasonable, logical approach.  So this Congress will never consider it.
 
2013-01-04 09:36:38 AM

the_rev: Because I am the guy here who prepares the W-2's for everyone, I have the numbers available to do my tax returns as soon as the year ends.

I always use H&R Block online, and e-file my stuff as soon as the IRS starts accepting returns. So I already filled out my return and am ready to file that biatch. But for some reason, H&R Block says I can't complete my return until January 18, because the fcucking "schedule D" form won't be available until then.

WTF? I can see the 2012 schedule D on the IRS site. What's holding H&R Block up?


They haven't hired enough hobos to process your return.
 
2013-01-04 09:37:27 AM

vernonFL: 2043: Hey! How come Social Security has no money?


Link
 
2013-01-04 09:40:08 AM

hillbillypharmacist: the_rev: Because I am the guy here who prepares the W-2's for everyone, I have the numbers available to do my tax returns as soon as the year ends.

I always use H&R Block online, and e-file my stuff as soon as the IRS starts accepting returns. So I already filled out my return and am ready to file that biatch. But for some reason, H&R Block says I can't complete my return until January 18, because the fcucking "schedule D" form won't be available until then.

WTF? I can see the 2012 schedule D on the IRS site. What's holding H&R Block up?

They haven't hired enough hobos to process your return.


I know hobos are scarce now, because of the Federal Fartbongo Hobo Mandate. Maybe that's it.
 
2013-01-04 09:41:17 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Payroll taxes are the same they were in 2008.  Not a penny more.


Yeah but this complaint, though not surprising is morbidly amusing.  I remember when this tax kicked in the Tea Party was just starting to ramp up their levels of stupid to Biblical proportions.
 
2013-01-04 09:43:13 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: vernonFL: 2043: Hey! How come Social Security has no money?

Link


Well that is an accounting trick. I agree with your above idea

We need to put more money into the pockets of average workers, not less. The first $25,000 of income should be exempt from Social Security taxes altogether, and we should make up the difference by eliminating the ceiling on income subject to Social Security taxes.

Rather than keeping the SS payroll tax low and replacing that money with money from the general fund.
 
2013-01-04 09:45:49 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: vernonFL: 2043: Hey! How come Social Security has no money?

Link


Doesn't mean SS won't be broke by then because we won't fund it properly.
 
2013-01-04 09:48:59 AM
I just checked mine, I get paid on the 1st and 15th of every month... It's $0.42 less than normal.

If that's what it continues to be, cool. But if I were to lose even $10-30 a month, I'm kinda screwed. shiat is TIGHT for me, complete paycheck to paycheck and I don't have a CC.
 
2013-01-04 09:50:57 AM

GAT_00: Doesn't mean SS won't be broke by then because we won't fund it properly.


Doesn't mean it will be either. Something may happen, or something may not happen. Okay good talk.
 
2013-01-04 10:00:07 AM

RexTalionis: Gwendolyn: RexTalionis: Dude, it's like 10-30 bucks, depending on what your paycheck is. If that causes you vexation, you need to manage your money better.

an extra 2% is about $70 a paycheck less for us. It really freaking blows as there was no raise last year.

Okay, but at that point, we're talking about making, what, $3500 per paycheck?


Before all the crap comes out, yeah. I'm just extra bummed because I think state withholding got screwed up and I'm going to owe about $1800. My tuition payment is due. I need to buy books...Oh and my car broke down yesterday. $70 is a week of my METRO fees.  mydown yesterday.
 
2013-01-04 10:03:30 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: GAT_00: Doesn't mean SS won't be broke by then because we won't fund it properly.

Doesn't mean it will be either. Something may happen, or something may not happen. Okay good talk.


At predicted funding and expenditure levels, it will be broke before I get a cent from it.  Because I'm not a POS Baby Boomer, I think we should address that deficit now and not later, because a small tax over a longer period of time is better than a larger tax over a short period of time, both of which would draw the same amount of funding.
 
2013-01-04 10:09:00 AM

GAT_00: At predicted funding and expenditure levels, it will be broke before I get a cent from it.


Solvent until 2037, so that goes for me too. The easiest way to push that date out, and fix many of our other fiscal problems, is to get back to full employment. Something Robert Reich has been screaming for years.
 
2013-01-04 10:09:42 AM

CapeFearCadaver: I just checked mine, I get paid on the 1st and 15th of every month... It's $0.42 less than normal.

If that's what it continues to be, cool. But if I were to lose even $10-30 a month, I'm kinda screwed. shiat is TIGHT for me, complete paycheck to paycheck and I don't have a CC.


Maybe you should consider cutting totalfark. Boom! $5/month in your pocket. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices when your figuring the budget at the kitchen table. It's what responsible people do.
 
2013-01-04 10:10:14 AM

the_rev: And I want to page mrs.sharpier to this thread to read my boobies, because I led her wrong two days ago, when I was looking at that original N1036.

So go ahead, hon. Look at my boobies.


I saw 'em/ Good lookin' moobs bro.
 
2013-01-04 10:13:33 AM
Anyways, also, I feel obliged to say my usual speech about taxes being the price we pay for civilization and we shouldn't complain too much, especially if you're a democrat. Look at our rates globally, we don't pay that much in taxes.

I heard a frightening story on NPR yesterday about the condition a lot of our bridges are in. Tax me mother farkers, and then fix those damn bridges, roadways, hire more engineers etc. bla bla blabbity bla.
 
2013-01-04 10:15:19 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: GAT_00: At predicted funding and expenditure levels, it will be broke before I get a cent from it.

Solvent until 2037, so that goes for me too. The easiest way to push that date out, and fix many of our other fiscal problems, is to get back to full employment. Something Robert Reich has been screaming for years.


If full employment is the only way SS is sustainably funded, then we cannot consider SS to be sustainable.  Any time we have another recession, and we will, then the fund drops further.  SS needs increased funding.

And we'll never get back to full employment as long as businesses hoard money and give millions to their CEOs instead of creating jobs with their record profits.
 
2013-01-04 10:15:35 AM

djkutch: Maybe you should consider cutting totalfark


OH SNAP!
 
2013-01-04 10:16:32 AM

djkutch: CapeFearCadaver: I just checked mine, I get paid on the 1st and 15th of every month... It's $0.42 less than normal.

If that's what it continues to be, cool. But if I were to lose even $10-30 a month, I'm kinda screwed. shiat is TIGHT for me, complete paycheck to paycheck and I don't have a CC.

Maybe you should consider cutting totalfark. Boom! $5/month in your pocket. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices when your figuring the budget at the kitchen table. It's what responsible people do.


I was sponsored.
 
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