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2013-01-04 08:51:16 AM  
I am your complete lack of surprise.
 
2013-01-04 09:02:33 AM  
Seems like they're trying to diminish the Tea Party's effectiveness, though.

/Freepers must be having a heart attack over this
//Classic example of "GOP-e corruption"
///Slashies come in threes
 
2013-01-04 09:11:35 AM  
Republicans just need to realize that they ARE the primary problem.
 
2013-01-04 09:20:02 AM  
Looks like the superpacs have joined the republican civil war. Bitter primary fights with outside money should do wonders for your cause. Please proceed.
 
2013-01-04 09:27:57 AM  

sammyk: Looks like the superpacs have joined the republican civil war. Bitter primary fights with outside money should do wonders for your cause. Please proceed.


www.simplyrecipes.com
 
2013-01-04 09:35:22 AM  
*sigh*

Looks like it's the Modern Whigs for me...
 
2013-01-04 09:35:27 AM  
It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves
 
2013-01-04 09:43:36 AM  

ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this


It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.
 
2013-01-04 09:47:00 AM  

sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.


either start quoting them or link that shiat. (or both, don't want workers knowing I travel to freeperville)

/but fark is okay
//this is my logic ^_^
 
2013-01-04 09:50:49 AM  

somedude210: It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves


Hence, why I reiterate joining the Modern Whigs...
 
2013-01-04 10:04:28 AM  
I'm glad I left the GOP. Constantly getting hit on for donations and gay butt sex. I would have joined the Catholic church if I wanted that.

/this is fark. i'm leaving anyways. window seat. kosher meal
 
2013-01-04 10:04:46 AM  
Steel-cage deathmatches?
Electrodes taped to genitals and activated by mandatory fact checking of every sentence?
Surgically implanted audio/visual equipment to catch and broadband even the slightest derp?
 
2013-01-04 10:06:38 AM  

sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.


I have also changed my registration from Republican to independent. I suspect, however, that I have done so for different reasons.

/Not a Fark Independent.
 
2013-01-04 10:06:57 AM  

somedude210: It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves


Pahahahahaha... oh, you.
 
2013-01-04 10:07:27 AM  

somedude210: It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves


I take it you haven't seen the initiation rite.

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-01-04 10:07:43 AM  

somedude210: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

either start quoting them or link that shiat. (or both, don't want workers knowing I travel to freeperville)

/but fark is okay
//this is my logic ^_^


Try Freep Impact
 
2013-01-04 10:08:04 AM  

hubiestubert: *sigh*

Looks like it's the Modern Whigs for me...


Yeah, because the old whigs turned out so well and there's always a big demand for new whigs. Young people are even shaving their heads just so they can join the whigs. Donald Trump, of course, will be the party leader.
 
2013-01-04 10:08:39 AM  

Dimensio: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

I have also changed my registration from Republican to independent. I suspect, however, that I have done so for different reasons.

/Not a Fark Independent.


That means nothing if you still vote straight R tickets no matter what.
 
2013-01-04 10:09:12 AM  
As I understand the article, the GOP is in full 'throw the derpers under the bus' mode. They're discussing changing rules and such about the primaries, thus eliminating the effectiveness of the far-right Derper crowd.

It would seem as if they've decided the Tea Derper monster that they've created...needs to die.

This can only be good for the political climate in this country. I say, bravo sane GOP. I realize your intentions are simply to try and hold onto power, but even the Devil can do a good deed when he has the proper motivation.
 
2013-01-04 10:09:28 AM  
I guess that means we can look forward to a Warren/Gillibrand ticket defeating West/Bachmann.
 
2013-01-04 10:09:28 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: hubiestubert: *sigh*

Looks like it's the Modern Whigs for me...

Yeah, because the old whigs turned out so well and there's always a big demand for new whigs. Young people are even shaving their heads just so they can join the whigs. Donald Trump, of course, will be the party leader.


[luke.jpg]
No! That's not true! That's impossible!
 
2013-01-04 10:09:30 AM  
When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-04 10:09:55 AM  
SuperPACs are the problem, not the answer.

No matter how far to the right they are, the Republican "brand" in general has idiocy behind it. Fix that first.
 
2013-01-04 10:10:59 AM  

hubiestubert: Hence, why I reiterate joining the Modern Whigs...


Also:
modernwhig.informe.com

Hmmmm. Where did they steal that from...
hypervocal.com
 
2013-01-04 10:11:34 AM  

vernonFL: When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.


Well, to be fair, middle-schoolers wouldn't be allowed to win by calling Suzie Cream Cheese a slut.
 
2013-01-04 10:11:50 AM  
The "primary" problem exists because people don't care about local politics. People don't get involved at the city/county/state level, so we get only those candidates who were voted in at the local and state level over the last 15 years. Those people were put there by the fringe that votes in local elections.

So each time you complain about how the slate of candidates is terrible, filled with moonbats and wingnuts, ask yourself when was the last time you participated in your county or state elections. Ask yourself when you last got involved in city council or town hall meetings. That's where they start. And if only the "crazies" participate there, that's all you get at the national level once those parasites are done eating each other and advance.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-04 10:12:28 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: hubiestubert: Hence, why I reiterate joining the Modern Whigs...

Also:
[modernwhig.informe.com image 600x121]

Hmmmm. Where did they steal that from...
[hypervocal.com image 450x300]


I think they should say "fark it" and call themselves the Modern Knownothing Party...
 
2013-01-04 10:12:37 AM  

somedude210: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

either start quoting them or link that shiat. (or both, don't want workers knowing I travel to freeperville)

/but fark is okay
//this is my logic ^_^


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2974838/posts

The Highlights:
4.bp.blogspot.com
1- Address white business envelope
1.bp.blogspot.com
2- Jot-down a brief, friendly note
4.bp.blogspot.com
3- Include now-useless Party card
2.bp.blogspot.com
4- Attach tea bag
4.bp.blogspot.com
5- Affix stamp and hand to mailman
 
2013-01-04 10:14:27 AM  

Jairzinho: Dimensio: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

I have also changed my registration from Republican to independent. I suspect, however, that I have done so for different reasons.

/Not a Fark Independent.

That means nothing if you still vote straight R tickets no matter what.


I do not, and I will not. Mr. Romney was a terrible Presidential candidate. Senator McCain would have been a viable Presidential candidate prior to his adoption of unreasonable positions in 2008, and Governor Palin was a terrible Vice-Presidential candidate. President Obama has proven himself to be a generally competent leader, though I do fundamentally disagree with him (and with the official Democratic national party platform) on some issues.
 
2013-01-04 10:15:38 AM  
Maybe it will turn into a shooting war.


/would be no great loss for either side.
 
2013-01-04 10:15:54 AM  

Khellendros: The "primary" problem exists because people don't care about local politics. People don't get involved at the city/county/state level, so we get only those candidates who were voted in at the local and state level over the last 15 years. Those people were put there by the fringe that votes in local elections.

So each time you complain about how the slate of candidates is terrible, filled with moonbats and wingnuts, ask yourself when was the last time you participated in your county or state elections. Ask yourself when you last got involved in city council or town hall meetings. That's where they start. And if only the "crazies" participate there, that's all you get at the national level once those parasites are done eating each other and advance.


Yup. Some lady in the gym locker room today was ranting about how you should never vote because Obama isn't a real liberal. Lady, you're standing half a mile from Elizabeth Warren's house and you're biatching that liberals can't elected?
 
2013-01-04 10:16:45 AM  

Khellendros: The "primary" problem exists because people don't care about local politics. People don't get involved at the city/county/state level, so we get only those candidates who were voted in at the local and state level over the last 15 years. Those people were put there by the fringe that votes in local elections.

So each time you complain about how the slate of candidates is terrible, filled with moonbats and wingnuts, ask yourself when was the last time you participated in your county or state elections. Ask yourself when you last got involved in city council or town hall meetings. That's where they start. And if only the "crazies" participate there, that's all you get at the national level once those parasites are done eating each other and advance.


but but but town council meetings? You practically need a sub-room-temperature IQ just to stay awake.
 
2013-01-04 10:17:07 AM  
They should start trying to find candidates with human souls.
 
2013-01-04 10:18:12 AM  

Infernalist: As I understand the article, the GOP is in full 'throw the derpers under the bus' mode. They're discussing changing rules and such about the primaries, thus eliminating the effectiveness of the far-right Derper crowd.

It would seem as if they've decided the Tea Derper monster that they've created...needs to die.

This can only be good for the political climate in this country. I say, bravo sane GOP. I realize your intentions are simply to try and hold onto power, but even the Devil can do a good deed when he has the proper motivation.


THIS.
Reasonable people who disagree can come together and get things done. And then there are the teapartiers.
 
2013-01-04 10:18:15 AM  

Dimensio: President Obama has proven himself to be a generally competent leader, though I do fundamentally disagree with him (and with the official Democratic national party platform) on some issues.


That is a reasonable statement, but if a nationally elected Republican said this, he'd be pilloried in the press, and Fox would run a special on how he was "RINO".

Which is absurd, if you think about it.
 
2013-01-04 10:18:17 AM  
So they are not adopting the dem party platform? Wow they do want to go down in mediocracy.
 
2013-01-04 10:18:59 AM  

actualhuman: but but but town council meetings? You practically need a sub-room-temperature IQ just to stay awake.


Then run for office. What the hell is stopping you?
 
2013-01-04 10:19:42 AM  

somedude210: It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves


They know that they need to be more moderate. The problem is that they have gerrymandered too many districts that are solid red. This has meant that in order to win against people from their own party they often have to out-tea-tard the next guy. Thus pushing them farther from the middle and making them slowly loose ground in nearly all other contested areas because the extreme folks are tainting their national image.
 
2013-01-04 10:20:22 AM  
/looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.
 
2013-01-04 10:24:05 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


They promised Jobs, Jobs, Jobs.........yet did nothing but hamstring any economic recovery because they fell in line with the GOP's anti-obstructionism. They are only trusted among themselves now.
 
2013-01-04 10:24:16 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results current approval ratings for both Republicans and Congress in general

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans those of us who are not insane.

 
2013-01-04 10:24:55 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


they're the medicine America needs...the only problem is they're not being heard.
speak up!

Are you going to let the GOPe hush the patriots in the tea party? looks like that's what they're tying to do, right?

/make a sign and get out there, be visible, fight like it's America's last chance!
//call out the GOPe players by name, primary their asses!, say lots of tea party stuff everywhere you go! wear a GOP/tea party tshirt...maybe even a tricorn hat?...at least a ball cap that thanks FOX news.
 
2013-01-04 10:25:35 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


/Looks at 2012 results.

Yeah, the Tea Party is a huge problem for the Republicans.
 
2013-01-04 10:25:52 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


Considering it's destroying their carefully constructed club exclusively by and for the super rich and remaking it into the American Taliban, I'd say it's quite the problem.
 
2013-01-04 10:27:58 AM  
Its all fine and dandy till the teahadists start fighting back. THEN its gonna get good.
 
2013-01-04 10:29:32 AM  

actualhuman: Khellendros: The "primary" problem exists because people don't care about local politics. People don't get involved at the city/county/state level, so we get only those candidates who were voted in at the local and state level over the last 15 years. Those people were put there by the fringe that votes in local elections.

So each time you complain about how the slate of candidates is terrible, filled with moonbats and wingnuts, ask yourself when was the last time you participated in your county or state elections. Ask yourself when you last got involved in city council or town hall meetings. That's where they start. And if only the "crazies" participate there, that's all you get at the national level once those parasites are done eating each other and advance.

but but but town council meetings? You practically need a sub-room-temperature IQ just to stay awake.


Exactly my point - when only one or two people in the room can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time, you need to put a mass of reasonable people in the room. The way it is now, the inanity is overseen and directed by the lawyer in the room on a power trip who knows how to pull favors. THAT'S the one that makes it onto the national scene. Not the one with the best ideas, or the one who got popular support. Nope, you get the sociopath who knows how to win the local election where only 3% of the city/county votes.

And then a few hundred of them get elected to congress using the same tactics on a national scale. A few dozen get elected governor, and a handful of the really, really crazy ones run for president when they hit middle age. And you end up with the 2012 GOP primary.
 
2013-01-04 10:29:43 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


/Looks at the results of the election of George the First

yeah, the Germans are such a problem for the British.
 
2013-01-04 10:30:27 AM  
/Looks at the results of the 1860 election
Yeah, the slavery question is such a problem for the US
 
2013-01-04 10:31:00 AM  

sammyk: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2974838/posts


The Orange Menace

I lol'd
 
2013-01-04 10:31:52 AM  
/looks at Japanese amassing naval fleet

Yeah, the Imperial Japanese Navy is such a problem for Pearl Harbor.
 
2013-01-04 10:32:45 AM  

vernonFL: When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.


Well, based on the first page or so of that article, middle school elections go more smoothly mostly because Democrats aren't coming in with their dirty tricks to help get people like Todd Akins to win the Republican primaries.
 
2013-01-04 10:33:17 AM  
Don't farking care...

It'll be a cold day in hell before a Republican gets a vote from me again, so they can go pound salt up their asses for all I care.
 
2013-01-04 10:33:25 AM  

Loucifer: They should start trying to find candidates with human souls.


Knowing the Republicans, they'll fix it by sending out Dick Cheney with a shotgun and some black soul gems.
 
2013-01-04 10:34:14 AM  

keylock71: Don't farking care...

It'll be a cold day in hell before a Republican gets a vote from me again, so they can go pound salt up their asses for all I care.


Go on...
 
2013-01-04 10:36:05 AM  

snowshovel: vernonFL: When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.

Well, based on the first page or so of that article, middle school elections go more smoothly mostly because Democrats aren't coming in with their dirty tricks to help get people like Todd Akins to win the Republican primaries.


Also, the Liberal Main stream MSM isn't in middle school election repeating verbatim what the candidates say, in order to unfairly make them look bad.
 
2013-01-04 10:36:43 AM  
How is this a stupid move? The party realized it had a problem with the candidates it's primaries were producing. They had several choices and this was the least damaging to the largest wing of the party.
 
2013-01-04 10:36:48 AM  

Epoch_Zero: keylock71: Don't farking care...

It'll be a cold day in hell before a Republican gets a vote from me again, so they can go pound salt up their asses for all I care.

Go on...


I've often wondered if that phrase implies the salt is being pounded in a granular state or if it's compressed into a dildo shape first... : )
 
2013-01-04 10:38:40 AM  

keylock71: Epoch_Zero: keylock71: Don't farking care...

It'll be a cold day in hell before a Republican gets a vote from me again, so they can go pound salt up their asses for all I care.

Go on...

I've often wondered if that phrase implies the salt is being pounded in a granular state or if it's compressed into a dildo shape first... : )


Either way, I'm pretty sure that's how salmiak is made.

/Utterly gross
 
2013-01-04 10:38:40 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


Dude, really? 2010 was a midterm election for the party in the White House in a bad economy after two straight elections where the Dems picked up lots of seats (which meant they were holding lots of marginal seats). The tea partiers had nothing to do with it despite all the noise and simpleton analysis by the media. The tea party COST the Repubs seats in 2010, especially in the Senate. Nevada, Delaware, and Colorado should have elected Republican senators in 2010. Several more should have been elected this year. Republicans should have a majority in the Senate right now but they don't because of stupid primary choices driven by the tea party. Election results eventually force parties to self-correct. The Republicans are just now starting the conversation but, eventually you'll see a dramatic repackaging of the party. That's still a ways off. Thus, for example, the Reps are about to throw away the governor's seat in Virginia.
 
2013-01-04 10:39:00 AM  

what_now: actualhuman: but but but town council meetings? You practically need a sub-room-temperature IQ just to stay awake.

Then run for office. What the hell is stopping you?


Well, I was going for the cheap laugh (and anyone with the courage to stand up and debate deserves better than that), but I can't afford the time. Why don't you? ;)
 
2013-01-04 10:41:15 AM  

somedude210: It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves


You said that with a straight face, how'd you do that?
 
2013-01-04 10:42:23 AM  

sammyk: somedude210: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

either start quoting them or link that shiat. (or both, don't want workers knowing I travel to freeperville)

/but fark is okay
//this is my logic ^_^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2974838/posts

The Highlights:
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x225]
1- Address white business envelope
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x222]
2- Jot-down a brief, friendly note
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 287x184]
3- Include now-useless Party card
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 320x239]
4- Attach tea bag
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 214x320]
5- Affix stamp and hand to mailman


For anyone thinking this is sammyk's joke...it is, indeed, an actual clipping from Freeperland.
 
2013-01-04 10:42:25 AM  

Glenford:

Try Freep Impact


Oh. My. God.
 
2013-01-04 10:42:55 AM  
Republican leaders are planning to intervene in selected 2014 races to ensure preferred candidates win the nomination.

Why do Republicans hate democracy?
 
2013-01-04 10:44:29 AM  

WTF Indeed: How is this a stupid move? The party realized it had a problem with the candidates it's primaries were producing. They had several choices and this was the least damaging to the largest wing of the party.


more like too little too late. The stupid move was creating and propping up this group of morans in the first place.

the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

I'd liken the GOPs strategy here to setting the couch on fire to heat your house...yeah it's warm for a bit, but pretty soon you'll regret it and eventually you're gonna be farked.

they're apparently now realizing they need to get that flaming couch out of the house, but the fire is already out of control. They'll be building a new house for many years to come if the TP leaves the GOP.
 
2013-01-04 10:44:29 AM  

hubiestubert: somedude210: It'd be nice if the GOP actually did some soul searching and either concluded that they don't have one or that they need to be more moderate in their positions to sustain themselves

Hence, why I reiterate joining the Modern Whigs...


Well, it would be kind of cool to see a 21st-century party whose historical standard-bearers were William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor, and Millard Fillmore. Maybe you should consider a different name. . . .
 
2013-01-04 10:44:44 AM  
Though, now that I think about it, the average Maine state congressman represents a little less than 9000 people it would be pretty easy to run for state house if I knew a few of the right sort of people.

/Actually a friend's dad ran for state house in a heavily Republican rural district, mostly just to get his name out there for another year, and barely got 15% of the vote but that was in 2010.
 
2013-01-04 10:45:23 AM  
images.businessweek.com

What a primary Republican problem might look like
 
2013-01-04 10:46:09 AM  

yequalsy: Dude, really? 2010 was a midterm election for the party in the White House in a bad economy after two straight elections where the Dems picked up lots of seats (which meant they were holding lots of marginal seats).


Their success in state legislatures was significant, especially since 2010 was a census year.
 
2013-01-04 10:47:49 AM  

lilbjorn: Republican leaders are planning to intervene in selected 2014 races to ensure preferred candidates win the nomination.

Why do Republicans hate democracy?


They've devolved into fascists. They are utterly antithetical to their own name.
 
2013-01-04 10:47:49 AM  
Further, expect Senate Republicans to insert themselves in those 2014 primaries when Democrats attempt to influence the GOP nominating process as they did in the 2012 Missouri Republican contest that produced Akin


Libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs.
 
2013-01-04 10:48:04 AM  

unexplained bacon: the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.


Who are they going to vote for? The TP people are above average politically active people. It is hard for this type of person to not vote.
 
2013-01-04 10:50:08 AM  

unexplained bacon: more like too little too late. The stupid move was creating and propping up this group of morans in the first place.

the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.


It's not too little too late. Too late would be if they did this after 2016 since it would be three presidential election cycles. Besides this isn't new, the Democratic party has been doing this for years since they realized after the 1970's that allowing the super liberal section of the party to control it's agenda hurt it nationally.
 
2013-01-04 10:52:31 AM  

lilbjorn: Republican leaders are planning to intervene in selected 2014 races to ensure preferred candidates win the nomination.

Why do Republicans hate democracy?


Because it generally does not work out well for Republicans.
 
2013-01-04 10:53:02 AM  

unexplained bacon: WTF Indeed: How is this a stupid move? The party realized it had a problem with the candidates it's primaries were producing. They had several choices and this was the least damaging to the largest wing of the party.

more like too little too late. The stupid move was creating and propping up this group of morans in the first place.

the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.


If the freeper post liked earlier in this thread is any indication, many TPers are changing their registrations to Independent. I don't know what the rules are in all the states, but here in Pa. the primaries are closed... you can only vote for your party in the primaries. It would seem that large defections from GOP to Independent would make it even more difficult for them to get a conservative candidate through the primaries. I know lots of states have open primaries, but I'm sure others are like Pa., so I don't think they've thought their cunning plan all the way through.

Or else they're all just blowing hot air.
 
2013-01-04 10:53:51 AM  

Saiga410: unexplained bacon: the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

Who are they going to vote for? The TP people are above average politically active people. It is hard for this type of person to not vote.


you think they'll vote GOP after they've deemed them traitorous?
they're known for their petty grudge style of politics, maybe some will vote GOP to stick it to libs, but many will write in, abstain, or perhaps look to create their own party...all of which would hurt the GOP IMO.
 
2013-01-04 10:54:20 AM  

wingnut396: Further, expect Senate Republicans to insert themselves in those 2014 primaries when Democrats attempt to influence the GOP nominating process as they did in the 2012 Missouri Republican contest that produced Akin


Libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs, libs.


The evil power has destroyed his mind. He doesn't even know what he's doing anymore. What an almighty idiot!
 
2013-01-04 10:56:40 AM  

WTF Indeed: unexplained bacon: more like too little too late. The stupid move was creating and propping up this group of morans in the first place.

the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

It's not too little too late. Too late would be if they did this after 2016 since it would be three presidential election cycles. Besides this isn't new, the Democratic party has been doing this for years since they realized after the 1970's that allowing the super liberal section of the party to control it's agenda hurt it nationally.


it's my opinion that the GOP was already in trouble, this will lose them more votes than it will gain them I think. It's going to hurt an already struggling party.

I don't think the Dem comparison works well...the TP is petty and vengeful, they're well known for zero compromise even if it hurts them so...

/all speculation
//guess we'll see
 
2013-01-04 10:57:20 AM  

Bloody William: keylock71: Epoch_Zero: keylock71: Don't farking care...

It'll be a cold day in hell before a Republican gets a vote from me again, so they can go pound salt up their asses for all I care.

Go on...

I've often wondered if that phrase implies the salt is being pounded in a granular state or if it's compressed into a dildo shape first... : )

Either way, I'm pretty sure that's how salmiak is made.

/Utterly gross


Lol... I love salted liquorice. The wife's Finnish relatives bring me boxes of the stuff when they come over for visits.

I have not pounded it up my ass, though... I prefer the more traditional method.
 
2013-01-04 10:57:56 AM  

Saiga410: unexplained bacon: the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

Who are they going to vote for? The TP people are above average politically active people. It is hard for this type of person to not vote.


Oh, they'll still vote Republican, they just like to make noise, and sound important.
 
2013-01-04 10:59:10 AM  

unexplained bacon: Saiga410: unexplained bacon: the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

Who are they going to vote for? The TP people are above average politically active people. It is hard for this type of person to not vote.

you think they'll vote GOP after they've deemed them traitorous?
they're known for their petty grudge style of politics, maybe some will vote GOP to stick it to libs, but many will write in, abstain, or perhaps look to create their own party...all of which would hurt the GOP IMO.


Yeah, I saw a poll linked the other day (I'm not sure which) showing roughly 10% of reg. voters ID as Tea Partiers. Presumably in the deep red states it's higher. If even half of those break off and form a separate Tea Party it's probably enough to gain a ballot line in most states, and that would be more than enough to seriously ham-string the GOP candidates.
 
Ant
2013-01-04 10:59:49 AM  
Dump the religious right, you morons!
 
2013-01-04 11:00:46 AM  

theknuckler_33: unexplained bacon: WTF Indeed: How is this a stupid move? The party realized it had a problem with the candidates it's primaries were producing. They had several choices and this was the least damaging to the largest wing of the party.

more like too little too late. The stupid move was creating and propping up this group of morans in the first place.

the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

If the freeper post liked earlier in this thread is any indication, many TPers are changing their registrations to Independent. I don't know what the rules are in all the states, but here in Pa. the primaries are closed... you can only vote for your party in the primaries. It would seem that large defections from GOP to Independent would make it even more difficult for them to get a conservative candidate through the primaries. I know lots of states have open primaries, but I'm sure others are like Pa., so I don't think they've thought their cunning plan all the way through.

Or else they're all just blowing hot air.


These guys will certainly cut their nose off to spite their face...that's pretty much a defining characteristic of these clowns.
I think this is a net loss for the GOP in any case. I also think this might end up resulting in an actual Tea Party national party...or at least they'll start putting up candidates under the Independent label and cast votes for them, which is a loss to the GOP.

I think the GOP wont be getting a lot of moderates back out of this either. Too little too late.

/just IMO
 
2013-01-04 11:03:04 AM  

keylock71: Lol... I love salted liquorice. The wife's Finnish relatives bring me boxes of the stuff when they come over for visits.

I have not pounded it up my ass, though... I prefer the more traditional method.


Pounding it up HER ass?
 
2013-01-04 11:03:06 AM  

actualhuman: unexplained bacon: Saiga410: unexplained bacon: the TP will not take this well don't you agree? This could result in a split that would leave the GOP minus a lot of votes they really really need.

Who are they going to vote for? The TP people are above average politically active people. It is hard for this type of person to not vote.

you think they'll vote GOP after they've deemed them traitorous?
they're known for their petty grudge style of politics, maybe some will vote GOP to stick it to libs, but many will write in, abstain, or perhaps look to create their own party...all of which would hurt the GOP IMO.

Yeah, I saw a poll linked the other day (I'm not sure which) showing roughly 10% of reg. voters ID as Tea Partiers. Presumably in the deep red states it's higher. If even half of those break off and form a separate Tea Party it's probably enough to gain a ballot line in most states, and that would be more than enough to seriously ham-string the GOP candidates.


exactly...if the GOP makes the TPers conclude that they are an enemy, which is exactly what I see happening, then it's a problem.
 
2013-01-04 11:03:18 AM  

Khellendros: The "primary" problem exists because people don't care about local politics. People don't get involved at the city/county/state level, so we get only those candidates who were voted in at the local and state level over the last 15 years. Those people were put there by the fringe that votes in local elections.

So each time you complain about how the slate of candidates is terrible, filled with moonbats and wingnuts, ask yourself when was the last time you participated in your county or state elections. Ask yourself when you last got involved in city council or town hall meetings. That's where they start. And if only the "crazies" participate there, that's all you get at the national level once those parasites are done eating each other and advance.


Screw that.  I'd have to be nice to wingnuts and moonbats.
 
2013-01-04 11:05:33 AM  
They aren't addressing the core problem with their primary system.

www.csmonitor.com

No amount of tweaking is going to help when this is the quality of candidate available to choose from.
 
2013-01-04 11:06:08 AM  

theknuckler_33: keylock71: Lol... I love salted liquorice. The wife's Finnish relatives bring me boxes of the stuff when they come over for visits.

I have not pounded it up my ass, though... I prefer the more traditional method.

Pounding it up HER ass?


Exactly.
 
2013-01-04 11:06:57 AM  

what_now: Yup. Some lady in the gym locker room today was ranting about how you should never vote because Obama isn't a real liberal. Lady, you're standing half a mile from Elizabeth Warren's house and you're biatching that liberals can't elected?


So her solution is to make it so far right candidates get elected to office... Yeah, that will sure help the nation and insure more liberals in office.
 
2013-01-04 11:07:52 AM  
Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.
 
2013-01-04 11:10:22 AM  

Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


what do you think about the GOPe's move here?

do you think maybe libs and progs have infiltrated the party?
 
2013-01-04 11:11:04 AM  

Buffalo77: Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


Then please, by all means, next time run the most Conservative person you can find.

See what happens.
 
2013-01-04 11:11:17 AM  
Remember when republicans used to tell us the Tea Party was diverse and bi-partisan?

Good times!
 
2013-01-04 11:12:11 AM  

Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


Unless you were actually paying attention and noticed they were still trying to secure their base in the general election with hard right rhetoric and could not move to the center like the Dems did. The article from this thread actually mentions that point.
 
2013-01-04 11:13:10 AM  

Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


Sounds like you are saying the GOP needs to go further to right in order to win elections.

Please proceed.
 
2013-01-04 11:15:04 AM  

Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


Where, exactly, are liberals telling Republicans how to win primaries?
 
2013-01-04 11:17:01 AM  

theknuckler_33: Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.

Where, exactly, are liberals telling Republicans how to win primaries?


Outside of this thread?
 
2013-01-04 11:17:06 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: They aren't addressing the core problem with their primary system.

[www.csmonitor.com image 600x400]

No amount of tweaking is going to help when this is the quality of candidate available to choose from.


Now be fair. There's one entirely sane, qualified candidate in that picture.

/So what if he finished 7th in the Iowa caucus?
 
2013-01-04 11:19:15 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: what_now: Yup. Some lady in the gym locker room today was ranting about how you should never vote because Obama isn't a real liberal. Lady, you're standing half a mile from Elizabeth Warren's house and you're biatching that liberals can't elected?

So her solution is to make it so far right candidates get elected to office... Yeah, that will sure help the nation and insure more liberals in office.


Maybe the lady in question isn't a liberal but is actually somewhere on the political left and doesn't feel like a choice between "the Republican agenda" and "the Republican agenda from eight years ago" is all that legit? Ah well. I hope you guys actually do something real in addition to voting.

As far as the Republicans go, I think Buffalo's got the right idea, they're clearly not far right enough. I hope that works out for them.
 
2013-01-04 11:20:59 AM  

Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


And if they had run on their typical moderate platform they had been advocating for years, they would have likely won. Instead, they went completely batshiat crazy during their primary, then pulled to just paint-drinking crazy during the general election. McCain baffled the country by losing his farking mind during his campaign. Everyone was asking where he went - where was his consistent moderate temperament? Why was he playing to the crazies? Literally the SAME HOUR he lost the election, he returned to form during his concession, and there were millions of people saying "I would have voted for THAT guy.... where was he the last 12 months?" Romney spent the last four years going crazy, so at least he had a track record of leaving his moderate republican ideas behind.

Running a moderate doesn't matter if, when the spotlight is on them, they go Bachmann on everyone.
 
2013-01-04 11:22:10 AM  

Infernalist: As I understand the article, the GOP is in full 'throw the derpers under the bus' mode. They're discussing changing rules and such about the primaries, thus eliminating the effectiveness of the far-right Derper crowd.

It would seem as if they've decided the Tea Derper monster that they've created...needs to die.

This can only be good for the political climate in this country. I say, bravo sane GOP. I realize your intentions are simply to try and hold onto power, but even the Devil can do a good deed when he has the proper motivation.



Might be difficult to do since they spent the last two election cycles voting the crazies into 6-year terms.
 
2013-01-04 11:22:40 AM  

Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.


so are you saying that the GOP running McCain and Mitt and losing is the fault of the liberals?

who would you have liked to see get the nom? you know if it wasn't for all those libs.
 
2013-01-04 11:23:30 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


Given the teabaggers cost the Republicans the Senate in 2010, and lost them what should have been easy seats in 2012, yes. And Republicans only hold the House due to gerrymandering, not because most people want them running things.
 
2013-01-04 11:24:16 AM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Maybe the lady in question isn't a liberal but is actually somewhere on the political left and doesn't feel like a choice between "the Republican agenda" and "the Republican agenda from eight years ago" is all that legit? Ah well. I hope you guys actually do something real in addition to voting.

As far as the Republicans go, I think Buffalo's got the right idea, they're clearly not far right enough. I hope that works out for them.


That or someone who didn't pay attention to 2010. A lot of the left and center stayed home then; I know a few who did so because they were disappointed in the Democrats not playing hardball with the Republicans.

Some times you have to choose between getting punched in the arm or getting kicked in the balls. Sure it stings a little to get punched in the arm, but it's better then having a bunch of Tea Party jackasses kicking you in the balls for years at a time.
 
2013-01-04 11:27:13 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: They aren't addressing the core problem with their primary system.

[www.csmonitor.com image 600x400]

No amount of tweaking is going to help when this is the quality of candidate available to choose from.


It's not the Primary process itself.

The leadership had very little hope of taking Obama in this election. They knew this going in. Bachmann knew that she had no hope in 10,000 Hells or Seven Heavens of getting the nod this year. Nor in 2016 for that matter. What all of those folks did realize is that there was a LOT of money to be made this election season. With books, with PACs, with fundraisers, with rallies, and it was about fleecing the rubes for as much as they could bear, and in order to keep up their spirits--and their wallets and pocketbooks open. For all the Sturm und Drang, and all the frenzied rhetoric, the leadership was more than fairly certain that whoever got the nod would lose. But, that didn't stop the opportunists and folks from moving cash around to the right folks after begging the rubes for MOAR cash.

Johnson and Huntsman were the only credible candidates on the field, and by credible, I mean relatively sane. Romney was a sacrificial lamb, but he has been a veteran campaigner. Not necessarily a successful one, but he knew how to pay folks back, to get something on the back end, after the election. He moved a lot of cash around to the right folks. On advisers. On staff. On ads. On books. His entire career has been being a poster child, who slides cash to the right folks, with himself as a target. From before the Olympics even. He knows how to grease the right palms once he gets into a position, and he is really good at making sure that folks get taken care of. As a candidate he made sure that a LOT of cash went to the right folks. He kept up ad revenue for Fox. He kept the wheels greased for dozens of websites. He hired a lot of folks and made sure that they got paid. He served a purpose. Not to win. Cripes, I don't think that anyone in the GOP really wanted the Presidency with as much crap to clean up from their last go around, but when you have founded your base on mouth breathers, you have to give them something to hope for. You have to give them a target for ire, because if you don't, then they might begin asking questions, and the wrong kind.

The field this last go around wasn't about winning. Not in the least. It was about fleecing the rubes for as much as possible, because at this point, that is really all the TEA Party is good for. They are good for rage cash, and in order to stoke that, you need folks who will stand as symbols. Bachmann. Paul. Newt. All fairly impossible tickets, but then again, folks play the lotto with similar odds, and that is really what it was about: cashing in on folks who want to believe.

Romney himself, I doubt really wanted to win. Not after his tenure as Governor. Not with all the eyes looking straight at him, and actually listening to what he would say. That is far more scrutiny than he is comfortable with. He did want to be a good soldier and slide cash to the folks who will pad out his retirement though. He did want the accolades for a while, and then when he failed, he could point to the "underhanded tactics" that cost his election, and slide back into a boardroom, surfeit and complete with the knowledge that he would make his cash back, and pride assuaged. Winning would be a catastrophe for the GOP right now. It would mean actually tackling the problems that their policies had caused, and with a full light upon them on how to accomplish the vocal goals that they've announced. And no one in the party wants that. Right now, they are reactionaries and radicals, and that requires something to rage against. In order to look like they're doing something, as opposed to doing something useful--because folks have a fairly good idea of what is necessary, but no one wants to be the ones to tell the American public that they're going to take the tough steps to do that. Instead, they are banking on being dragged to the table, and eventually they will capitulate in order to keep the nation afloat--they just don't want to do it too willingly, because they've bet the farm on being the ones to stand up against the very strategies needed.
 
2013-01-04 11:28:43 AM  

Jairzinho: Dimensio: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

I have also changed my registration from Republican to independent. I suspect, however, that I have done so for different reasons.

/Not a Fark Independent.

That means nothing if you still vote straight R tickets no matter what.


In most states registering "independent" means that you can't vote in the primary. Freepers doing this is arguably a Good Thingtm, since it should reduce the number of totally batshiat R nominees.
 
2013-01-04 11:28:46 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: A Dark Evil Omen: Maybe the lady in question isn't a liberal but is actually somewhere on the political left and doesn't feel like a choice between "the Republican agenda" and "the Republican agenda from eight years ago" is all that legit? Ah well. I hope you guys actually do something real in addition to voting.

As far as the Republicans go, I think Buffalo's got the right idea, they're clearly not far right enough. I hope that works out for them.

That or someone who didn't pay attention to 2010. A lot of the left and center stayed home then; I know a few who did so because they were disappointed in the Democrats not playing hardball with the Republicans.

Some times you have to choose between getting punched in the arm or getting kicked in the balls. Sure it stings a little to get punched in the arm, but it's better then having a bunch of Tea Party jackasses kicking you in the balls for years at a time.


So how exactly do you propose to get the Dems to shift left? What about rewarding them over and over for moving to the right seems like a good way to do that?

Like I said, I hope you actually do something yourself in addition to voting, because guess what? Those kicks in the balls? The Democrats are "triangulating" on exactly how much hard their shoe has to be to do the same thing while still getting you to vote for them.
 
2013-01-04 11:30:05 AM  

Saiga410: theknuckler_33: Buffalo77: Once again liberals and progressives who have no clue trying to the the Republicans how to win primaries.

"you need to be more moderate to win elections" (in a whiny voice)

Just ran the two most moderate republican out there the last 2 elections and both McCain and Romney got smoked so yeah your advice looks solid.

Where, exactly, are liberals telling Republicans how to win primaries?

Outside of this thread?


Well, it certainly isn't in this thread or in TFA... I was just wondering where that came from.
 
2013-01-04 11:38:21 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


That's Senators Donnelly, McCaskill, Tester, and Heitkamp to you. And Tea Party stink got on Scott Brown and several other non-Tea Party Republican candidates.
 
2013-01-04 11:40:19 AM  

beerrun: Glenford:

Try Freep Impact

Oh. My. God.


Yeah... i felt the same... I mean we have nutty people in my country but sheesh...
 
2013-01-04 11:41:37 AM  
/looks at the formation of the Catholic Church.
Yeah, the Spanish Inquisition is such a problem for Christians.
 
2013-01-04 11:44:14 AM  
So there solution is to rig the primary system in order to ge thet "establishment" candidate nominated and without having to go "full teatard" to get said nomination. That way they can run a more moderate candidate in the general one. So basically want to nominate someone who will not draw attention to the messed up policies they promote rather than actually change the messed up policies to more sensible ones.
 
2013-01-04 11:46:33 AM  

snowshovel: vernonFL: When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.

Well, based on the first page or so of that article, middle school elections go more smoothly mostly because Democrats aren't coming in with their dirty tricks to help get people like Todd Akins to win the Republican primaries.


I love the way that it's the Democrats fault that the Republicans are nominating such shiatty candidates.
 
2013-01-04 11:52:05 AM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


/looks at 2012 results

Yes, yes they are. XD

/sees you running back into your hole
//the groundhog has a problem with you
 
2013-01-04 11:53:49 AM  

beerrun: Glenford:

Try Freep Impact

Oh. My. God.


Bookmarked the first time I saw it. XD
 
2013-01-04 11:55:12 AM  

Lord_Baull: /looks at the formation of the Catholic Church.
Yeah, the Spanish Inquisition is such a problem for Christians.


That because no one expects it.
 
2013-01-04 11:58:50 AM  

hubiestubert: Romney himself, I doubt really wanted to win.


Bullshiat. You don't run for President as GOPer for like 12 years without wanting to be President. If he just wanted to run without any hope of winning, he could have been a Constitution or Libertarian candidate.
 
2013-01-04 12:01:09 PM  

wingnut396: hubiestubert: Romney himself, I doubt really wanted to win.

Bullshiat. You don't run for President as GOPer for like 12 years without wanting to be President. If he just wanted to run without any hope of winning, he could have been a Constitution or Libertarian candidate.


Nowhere near as much cash within arms reach on either of those tickets.
 
2013-01-04 12:02:08 PM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


Well it did cost them the Senate twice.
 
2013-01-04 12:02:56 PM  

Glenford: Try Freep Impact

*

"far-right extremist"


I really don't understand this term. I define 'right' as conservative, capitalist. I define 'left' as big government socialist.

Hitler, Stalin are far left. Skinheads who support Hitler's goals are far left, but called far right.

*


i512.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-04 12:07:19 PM  

macadamnut: Glenford: Try Freep Impact

*

"far-right extremist"


I really don't understand this term. I define 'right' as conservative, capitalist. I define 'left' as big government socialist.

Hitler, Stalin are far left. Skinheads who support Hitler's goals are far left, but called far right.

*

[i512.photobucket.com image 500x314]


It's common for delusional right-wing clowns to say fascists and other racist, xenophobic hate groups are really left wing groups.

Yeah, I don't get it either...
 
2013-01-04 12:12:46 PM  

wingnut396: hubiestubert: Romney himself, I doubt really wanted to win.

Bullshiat. You don't run for President as GOPer for like 12 years without wanting to be President. If he just wanted to run without any hope of winning, he could have been a Constitution or Libertarian candidate.


There is no money to be made for other folks running for those parties. None. They lose money, and not in a way that benefits anyone useful.

Elections nowadays are business. Big business. Between campaign consultants, ad revenue, books, and the rest, there is a huge amount of cash to be made. Even for small timers like Christine O'Donnel. For folks like Palin or Bachmann, they are gold mines. For Romney and Newt, they are ways to pay back favors, and get onto boards that will keep them in the style that they are accustomed to. Mind you, at some point, there may have been a glimmer of hope of taking the office that his father failed to achieve, but in the end, you don't mount the sort of shaky campaign as he did with dreams of competence. Same can be said for McCain.

In McCain's case, I think he started off strong, and with real hopes of office, and then realizing exactly how boned things were, he scuttled his own campaign in such a way that it looked more like simple incompetence. Romney? I've had to deal with him with the UMaine system, and while he is anything like a warm or even principled human being, he is NOT incompetent. He is ever calculating. He sees percentages and advantages  always. I think that in 2008, he wanted the office. He was outmaneuvered by the party machine, and was sidelined, and in that time, I do think that he was convinced to run again, but not as an actual candidate, but as a fund raiser and faux celebrity, and as a poster boy and symbol.

Because folks made a fair chunk of change on this election. They took a lot of cash from this election, and socked it away. Yes, the Koch brothers spent a good deal on this election. And they will receive good value on what they spent, and it had to go to the right people, right under regulatory folks' noses. Romney is a prince at steering other peoples' cash to the right folks, and that has been his MO pretty much...forever. From corporate money, from university cash, to State cash, and campaign cash. He is not so much a man of ideas, but a man who knows how to get the right folks cash, and get his on the back end. This was less about him getting an office, than him securing a better retirement, and keeping his club standings.
 
2013-01-04 12:13:53 PM  

Infernalist: It would seem as if they've decided the Tea Derper monster that they've created...needs to die.


And they'll enact new rules to ensure that the problems with their party never actually get fixed.
 
2013-01-04 12:14:03 PM  

randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


/looks at 2012 election results

You're either an idiot or delusional.
 
2013-01-04 12:18:59 PM  

Mrtraveler01: randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.

Well it did cost them the Senate twice.


Still spanking it over 2010, eh?

Funny thing...all during the lead up to the 2012 election, I heard over and over again from Republicans how the GOP Surge of 2010 was going to be dwarfed by what was going to happen in 2012; Obama led away in handcuffs, complete domination of both Congressional sides and the White House, the SCOTUS stacked with Conservative handmadiens, the big wave was comin'..WOO HOO!

Didn't happen that way, did it?

Republicans Inc. are still clueless as to what the hell happened to them this past year. Most of them still blame voter fraud, the media and brown people wanting free stuff.

Please proceed, Republicans. Until you flush the fetid jetsam from your wretched party, the trend of 2012 will continue and 2010 will be seen as your last gasp before oblivion.
 
2013-01-04 12:22:53 PM  

cptrios: sammyk: somedude210: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

either start quoting them or link that shiat. (or both, don't want workers knowing I travel to freeperville)

/but fark is okay
//this is my logic ^_^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2974838/posts

The Highlights:
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x225]
1- Address white business envelope
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x222]
2- Jot-down a brief, friendly note
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 287x184]
3- Include now-useless Party card
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 320x239]
4- Attach tea bag
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 214x320]
5- Affix stamp and hand to mailman

For anyone thinking this is sammyk's joke...it is, indeed, an actual clipping from Freeperland.


I like that they used a stock photo of a pretty girl writing the note. Probably couldn't find a real teabagger who doesn't look batshiat insane.

/I like her shirt. It makes my pants feel funny.
 
2013-01-04 12:28:22 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: snowshovel: vernonFL: When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.

Well, based on the first page or so of that article, middle school elections go more smoothly mostly because Democrats aren't coming in with their dirty tricks to help get people like Todd Akins to win the Republican primaries.

I love the way that it's the Democrats fault that the Republicans are nominating such shiatty candidates.



Party of Personal ResponsibilityTM!
 
2013-01-04 12:28:48 PM  

Citrate1007: randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.

/looks at 2012 election results

You're either an idiot or delusional.


Why just one?
 
2013-01-04 12:29:45 PM  
ws;sr - which is "writing sucks; stopped reading.

can I get bullet points?
 
2013-01-04 12:31:23 PM  

heavymetal: So there their solution is to rig the primary system in order to ge the "establishment" candidate nominated and without having to go "full teatard" to get said nomination. That way they can run a more moderate candidate in the general one. So basically want to nominate someone who will not draw attention to the messed up policies they promote rather than actually change the messed up policies to more sensible ones.


FTFM
 
2013-01-04 12:40:40 PM  

namatad: can I get bullet points?


Why, you heading out to demonstrate your patriotism?
 
2013-01-04 12:53:22 PM  
They should be more like the Democrats and let the politicians choose their nominee.
 
2013-01-04 12:56:57 PM  

Nome de Plume: They should be more like the Democrats and let the politicians choose their nominee.



The way they chose Obama over Hillary in 2008?
 
2013-01-04 01:05:57 PM  

Lord_Baull: Nome de Plume: They should be more like the Democrats and let the politicians choose their nominee.


The way they chose Obama over Hillary in 2008?


Yes. Teddy and the clan brought it home for him.
 
2013-01-04 01:07:07 PM  

Nome de Plume: They should be more like the Democrats and let the politicians choose their nominee.


Lordamercy, farkin' weaksauce. WHO DO WE HAVE TO BLOW TO GET A BETTER CLASS OF TROLLS AROUND HERE?
 
2013-01-04 01:09:55 PM  

Lord_Baull: namatad: can I get bullet points?

Why, you heading out to demonstrate your patriotism?


It would help if we knew who would have the biggest impact.
 
2013-01-04 01:37:50 PM  
Part of me wants to soberly think "this could all happen to Democrats one day, too." But then I remember that the GOP has built most of its positions on the notion that ignorance is a higher form of wisdom and that rational, critical thinking is for socialist queers, so maybe it isn't as likely to happen to anyone else but was inevitable for the GOP.
 
2013-01-04 01:51:27 PM  
Funny. Based on the article's comments, it sounds like the GOP are in desperate need of a...
.
.
....Community Organizer.
 
2013-01-04 02:14:27 PM  

hubiestubert: There is no money to be made for other folks running for those parties. None. They lose money, and not in a way that benefits anyone useful.

Elections nowadays are business. Big business. Between campaign consultants, ad revenue, books, and the rest, there is a huge amount of cash to be made. Even for small timers like Christine O'Donnel. For folks like Palin or Bachmann, they are gold mines. For Romney and Newt, they are ways to pay back favors, and get onto boards that will keep them in the style that they are accustomed to. Mind you, at some point, there may have been a glimmer of hope of taking the office that his father failed to achieve, but in the end, you don't mount the sort of shaky campaign as he did with dreams of competence. Same can be said for McCa


You mount it by being in a echo chamber. I'm sure Romney is a calculating business person to a large degree. He also comes across as an arrogant rich kid who always got what he wanted. The stories of the campaign living in the echo chamber of Republican/Fox News propaganda would have easily given him enough false positive feedback to think he had it in the bag. It easy to hear yes we will win when you surround yourself with desperate yes men.

I would imagine for Romney winning the Presidency would be a much better way to pay back favors and develop new ones for his future than losing a campaign would be. Unless there is some crazy revelation, I've no doubt he came out the RNC convention expecting to win. Perhaps a couple weeks before the general election he saw the writing and gave up hope of himself winning, but had to save face and 'help' the rest of the Republicans on the ticket.

Or maybe the whole failure of the Republican party is the Democrats fault as the author suggests early in the article. They are part of personal responsibility and as such they have no problem finding other people personally responsible for the failing of the GOP.
 
2013-01-04 02:40:53 PM  

Citrate1007: randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.

/looks at 2012 election results

You're either an idiot or delusional.


Why not both?
 
2013-01-04 03:17:06 PM  
The TP has at least another election cycle in their present incarnation.

2014 can expect a few more Akins to get the primary nomination.

But, can expect those to be met by more moderate "R-Independent" candidates, with Democrats either agreeing to help the Independent candidate, or, if strong enough, take advantage of the split vote.

The greater-GOP probably figures it is strong enough in most of the gerrymandered electorates to absorb the loss of TP votes, and write off any losses as collateral damage.
 
2013-01-04 04:02:12 PM  

Glenford: somedude210: sammyk: ariseatex: /Freepers must be having a heart attack over this

It's glorious! They are busy dropping their republican registrations for independent.

either start quoting them or link that shiat. (or both, don't want workers knowing I travel to freeperville)

/but fark is okay
//this is my logic ^_^

Try Freep Impact


This is great! All the derp of Freeperland without actually having to go to Freeperland!

/ Genius!
 
2013-01-04 04:17:43 PM  
randomjsa: /looks at 2010 results

Yeah, the Tea Party is such a huge problem for the Republicans.


bow bow bow chicka wow wow wow chicka bow bow bow chicka bow wow wow chika bow bow wow

keep KYing and whumping that table all around the room there, pal ;p

kitty likes to watch

/mercy me, what is this GOO all over the caaaarpet!?
 
2013-01-04 04:43:03 PM  

vernonFL: When did the Republican Party become so inept? I've seen middle school elections go more smoothly than their primaries.


Because they are the ones who pushed so hard to allow unlimited corporate money in elections - so corporations are going around buying candidates all they want, with no concern for whether or not that candidate is in the best interest of the Party. The Party itself has very little control over who gets money and money is everything in primaries.
 
2013-01-04 04:43:03 PM  

cptrios: For anyone thinking this is sammyk's joke...it is, indeed, an actual clipping from Freeperland.


My favorite:
************
Trouble is, radical socialist Barack Obama has jerked this country's political 'norm' so far to the left that any 'compromise in the middle' with the GOP's middlin' talents ends up being something Fidel Castro would have little problem with.
************
(emphasis in original)

Yeah, I noticed that the country has moved so far to the left that the healthcare reform proposals of the Heritage Foundation are now commie-lib-socialist pipe dreams. This country has moved so far to the left that a Democrat offered to cut Medicare and Social Security. This country has moved so far to the left that taxes (up until this week) were the lowest they'd been (as a percentage of income) in the last 60 years. This country is so far left that a Democratic president expanded gun rights.

God, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I hear these people talk. Unless this guy is basing his left/right analysis solely on social issues (yay, gays can marry and people can smoke pot) then how the hell can he realistically believe that the country is some socialist utopia?
 
2013-01-04 05:12:12 PM  
God damn, but it's funny listening to the mice talk about tying the bell on the cat.
 
2013-01-04 05:17:41 PM  
When Clinton triangulation beat the GOP, the GOP gave up the middle and began to campaign from the far-right inward. Combine this with gerrymandering, and you get their current state. Now you have extremists dominating local elections in districts that are safe from the other party. They won't lose the general election, so you have primaries where the candidates try to out-rightwing each other. Of course, a local right-wing hero is usually seen nationally as a kook.
Until the GOP falls apart, they will win the House and lose the White House most of the time.
 
2013-01-04 05:26:44 PM  

keylock71: Bloody William: keylock71: Epoch_Zero: keylock71: Don't farking care...

It'll be a cold day in hell before a Republican gets a vote from me again, so they can go pound salt up their asses for all I care.

Go on...

I've often wondered if that phrase implies the salt is being pounded in a granular state or if it's compressed into a dildo shape first... : )

Either way, I'm pretty sure that's how salmiak is made.

/Utterly gross

Lol... I love salted liquorice. The wife's Finnish relatives bring me boxes of the stuff when they come over for visits.

I have not pounded it up my ass, though... I prefer the more traditional method.


img2.timeinc.net

"Exsqueeze me?"
/hot
//link is too
 
2013-01-04 06:28:23 PM  

ArkPanda: Loucifer: They should start trying to find candidates with human souls.

Knowing the Republicans, they'll fix it by sending out Dick Cheney with a shotgun and some black soul gems.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-04 09:52:47 PM  

Pichu0102: ArkPanda: Loucifer: They should start trying to find candidates with human souls.

Knowing the Republicans, they'll fix it by sending out Dick Cheney with a shotgun and some black soul gems.

[i.imgur.com image 400x225]


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm black soul gems
 
2013-01-04 10:49:05 PM  

what_now: actualhuman: but but but town council meetings? You practically need a sub-room-temperature IQ just to stay awake.

Then run for office. What the hell is stopping you?


I would love to, but at the moment my platform consists of "I can not possibly fark this up worse than you already have."
 
2013-01-04 10:49:41 PM  

keylock71: macadamnut: Glenford: Try Freep Impact

*

"far-right extremist"


I really don't understand this term. I define 'right' as conservative, capitalist. I define 'left' as big government socialist.

Hitler, Stalin are far left. Skinheads who support Hitler's goals are far left, but called far right.

*

[i512.photobucket.com image 500x314]

It's common for delusional right-wing clowns to say fascists and other racist, xenophobic hate groups are really left wing groups.

Yeah, I don't get it either...


I think they're thrown of by the "socialist" in "national-socialist".
 
2013-01-05 02:03:37 AM  

RINO: I think they're thrown of by the "socialist" in "national-socialist".


I think that they are uneducated mouth-breathing cretins. When presented with rational thoughts, they react as if you are trying to make them eat lima beans and brussels sprouts
 
2013-01-05 10:00:33 AM  

actualhuman: Though, now that I think about it, the average Maine state congressman represents a little less than 9000 people it would be pretty easy to run for state house if I knew a few of the right sort of people.

/Actually a friend's dad ran for state house in a heavily Republican rural district, mostly just to get his name out there for another year, and barely got 15% of the vote but that was in 2010.


If you have the time and inclination (and correct party affiliation) it's not super hard to get elected at the local level. My state rep district is small enough that a candidate can go around knocking on doors.
 
2013-01-05 10:41:37 AM  

macadamnut: Glenford: Try Freep Impact

*

"far-right extremist"


I really don't understand this term. I define 'right' as conservative, capitalist. I define 'left' as big government socialist.

Hitler, Stalin are far left. Skinheads who support Hitler's goals are far left, but called far right.

*


See, I think this is crazier:

It is cold, it is unthinkable to contemplate as a mother of three, but in fifteen years what Breivik did may allow Norwegians to cast off the shackles of leftism when there are not enough elite leftist youth moving into leadership.
 
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