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(Huffington Post)   Not news: Homeless man found dead under overpass. Not news: Heir to part of $300 million fortune dies. Fark: Same person   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 13
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2013-01-04 11:49:55 AM
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uberaverage: The homeless are often crazy, not poor. Our mental health system is what needs reforming.


I'm not in favor of warehousing people who have different wants and values or think differently. I 'wish' they would live indoors in this weather, but some of them really don't want to. It's unsafe and unhealthy, but they choose. I wish some of them found enough benefit in meds, but a lot don't. The power to choose poorly isn't much of a power. Some of them want to live indoors and can't find good housing, but that's a different issue.

Called crisis services for a friend once. They show up with cops to evaluate. They forced him into treatment & later he stopped complying. The treatment center closed his case. He's been living unmedicated & paranoid since then. He had been in an institution when young. He was there for 2 years and saw a doctor twice. 'Course, I can see that treating a person who will never believe you can be just about impossible. When he's not in a paranoid swing, he's a great guy. When he is paranoid, we just 'get though it.' It's easier to get through because I know he'll regret his actions later.

An agency I work with called crisis services because a mentally ill women was living in an abandoned house and getting raped repeatedly. Crisis services showed up with police and later said, we can't go back there 'cause it's unsafe. Uh, isn't that why you bring police? The best option was to get the mayor to condemn the house so that the woman would be forced to stay at her backup camp. Then get crises services to go to that camp.

I've sat with guys in psych ER and saw some pretty awful staff action. One guy and I both told the doc that he wanted to die. They sent him home with an outpatient referral. Been in other psych ER's that do 'in my opinion' a great job. Course the great hospital merged with the awful one.

/not a professional
2013-01-04 11:35:40 AM
2 votes:
Vaguely relevant CSB:

My father was a chief on a nuclear submarine. One day a new junior crewman shows up, a first-termer so he's about 19. He was an unremarkable sailor EXCEPT for the fact that he seemed to have a hell of a lot of friends outside the Navy. Not only did he have many friends, but they were obviously well-off because when the ship pulled in to a foreign port, his friends were there waiting to whisk him off to some private function. People grew suspicious.

He served out his contract without getting in trouble or winning distinction. He declined to reenlist. Shortly after he left the ship, his bunk was stripped for its new occupant, and beneath his mattress was found every paycheck he had been issued for his entire time on the ship.

The story that came out was that he was the son of a Very Wealthy Man. This Very Wealthy Man did not wish to pass his estate to a son who had never known hard work, so he demanded that his son serve in the military before he was eligible for his inheritance. Of course, not everyone among his family and friends was as stern as Dad, so they did everything they could to keep him as comfy as possible in his years of exile. Apparently, he got enough pocket money from them that it wasn't worth his time to cash his piddling Navy checks.

The checks were bundled and sent to his home of record.

/CSB
2013-01-04 10:54:02 AM
2 votes:
I want to punch HuffPo in the cock for autoplaying videos.
2013-01-04 10:44:04 AM
2 votes:

DerAppie: How does one become a half nephew? Isn't being a nephew one of those things you either are or aren't?

/"Half great nephew" sounds like "complete stranger"


Half-nephew would mean the son of your half-brother or half-sister. So half great nephew would be the grandson of her half-brother or half sister?

/Jesus, now my head hurts.
2013-01-04 10:32:54 AM
2 votes:
Will was contested anyways. He isnt missing much. That money will likely be tied in courtrooms for decades thanks to greedy lawyers.
2013-01-04 10:32:46 AM
2 votes:
How does one become a half nephew? Isn't being a nephew one of those things you either are or aren't?

/"Half great nephew" sounds like "complete stranger"
2013-01-04 01:49:17 PM
1 votes:

semiotix: Thunderpipes: People always forget how bad the death tax is for farmers and ranchers...


Was trying to get my roommate a job with a farmer who had 400 cows. "Yeah, he used to be a rancher." "Really? What does he know?" "We'll, he's been kicked in the nuts by a bull, what more does he have to know?"
2013-01-04 12:23:03 PM
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semiotix: ShannonKW: Not only did he have many friends, but they were obviously well-off because when the ship pulled in to a foreign port, his friends were there waiting to whisk him off to some private function. People grew suspicious.

It actually is a pretty cool story, bro, but I especially like the part where people knew some weird shiat was going down because a sailor had friends outside the Navy. Rings true!


I suppose it got to be a serious security concern. Dude was on ballistic missile sub and had to be in reactor controls in order to be my father's subordinate. That means "Secret" clearance at least, and weird shiat like that is bound to prompt an investigation. I can only imagine that investigation ended near the curb outside Daddy's mansion.
2013-01-04 12:00:16 PM
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semiotix: His share would actually have been $19M, not $300M.

However, the dreaded Deäth Täx would have reduced that to a mere $14M.*

Discuss.**

* Fun fact: if half-great-aunt Huguette had died a few months earlier than she did, in Dec. 2010 instead of May 2011, there'd have been no tax at all, thanks to a weird quirk in the law. Selfish to the end, that Huguette!
** Bonus points for using the phrase "family farm" or "small business."



People with assets like that typically have them tied up in trusts and llc's where they aren't death taxed as much when passed down. There's a whole industry that revolves around this.

That said, giving a homeless man $19 mil would've made him a target for every crook and scammer in the country.
2013-01-04 11:38:02 AM
1 votes:
"One stated her fortune would be given to relatives, while the other, signed six weeks after the first, said none of her money would go to family members."

Heh. Because, fark you family. Somebody really pissed somebody off.
2013-01-04 11:20:17 AM
1 votes:
If you've never earned a penny in your life yet live a rich lifestyle, and you're a potential heir to more money, and you notice weird ol' adopted great nephew veering off with the crazy train, what would you do?
I imagine those last few hours under that bridge at sub zero temperatures had at least one moment of clarity.
2013-01-04 11:13:47 AM
1 votes:
His share would actually have been $19M, not $300M.

However, the dreaded Deäth Täx would have reduced that to a mere $14M.*

Discuss.**

* Fun fact: if half-great-aunt Huguette had died a few months earlier than she did, in Dec. 2010 instead of May 2011, there'd have been no tax at all, thanks to a weird quirk in the law. Selfish to the end, that Huguette!
** Bonus points for using the phrase "family farm" or "small business."
2013-01-04 10:27:05 AM
1 votes:
What a Huguette disappointment.
 
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