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(AZ Family)   You know your apartment has a bedbug problem when you can scoop up spoonfuls of them from your couch. "We've already thrown away 10 couches"   (azfamily.com) divider line 191
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2013-01-04 04:31:19 AM
I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.
 
2013-01-04 04:45:38 AM

camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.


Yet.
 
2013-01-04 04:53:48 AM
In the winter, if it gets below freezing outside where you live, wrap your mattresses, clothing, and furniture and put them outside for an hour or two. The cold kills em dead.

Fumigate the house in the mean time.

Or, as an alternative (if you don't mind draining the pipes so they don't burst) turn the heat off and open the windows, let the whole house get below freezing for a few hours.


Also they don't survive above 40°C (104°F) so you can buy an industrial heater and crank it up and leave it there for an hour or so. An acquaintance I knew did that for clients who wanted a pesticide-free fumigation.
 
2013-01-04 04:54:24 AM

TommyymmoT: Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.


Halon is a severe greenhouse gas.
 
2013-01-04 04:56:20 AM

inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.


-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...
 
2013-01-04 04:57:51 AM

TommyymmoT: Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.


Similar concepts are used to treat head lice (using a gel/shampoo that coats your head, and hardens and blocks oxygen) and takes about 4-6 hours of complete deprivation of oxygen to get the job done.  But halon is awfully darned expensive and actually doesn't remove oxygen (it actually is a heavy gas that BINDS with hydrogen which is a byproduct of flames/fire and therefore forms a barrier between the fuel (what's burning) and the oxygen in the air around it and therefore smothers the fire).  If you could truly seal the home and be sure that you have replaced all the air inside then I imagine any inert gas that doesn't have oxygen in it would do the trick.

/works with data centers
//been in a room that dumped halon more than once
 
2013-01-04 05:00:01 AM

apoptotic: ladyfortuna: People have been biatching about the snow. I say bring on the winter low temps. Freeze these farkers out (along with a host of other invasive bastards)

Considering it's been -20C or lower here for most of the last two months and I have to have my apartment prevention treated for the second time on Monday because the apartment above mine has bedbugs, I suspect cold temperatures outdoors don't play much of a role in whether you have bedbugs indoors.


Bedbugs don't mind cold weather. But temps over 120 or so will kill them. That's why one of the most effective treatments is to move everyone out, seal the building, and then heatblast it for several hours. Works better than pesticide.
 
2013-01-04 05:01:10 AM

camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...


Yeah, because it's every girl's dream to go live in Utah with some internet creeper who saw her in a news report about her bedbug issue.
 
2013-01-04 05:03:16 AM

Kingly Weevil: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

That pretty much does nothing to stop bed bugs. They're like lice, but worse. They don't care if you're dirty or not. Short of throwing away all your clothes, sheets, curtains, towels, washer, dryer, furniture, and tearing up all the carpet....When it comes to bed bugs on that scale, you're reduced to scorched earth or nothing. And if anyone in the apartments around you still has them, it doesn't matter because they're coming back even if you get rid of them.


Pretty much. You get bedbugs, plan to burn the house to the foundations.
 
Skr
2013-01-04 05:03:30 AM
I can't vouch for it killing bedbugs (have avoided that nastiness so far,) but Diatomaceous Earth killed the shiat out of a flea problem my dog rolled into. When rubbed into the coat it can dry out the animal's skin but coupled with a light powdering of the house it cleared the buggers out quick.

I've heard tell of DE being a great dietary supplement for people and it killing harmful stuff in the digestive track and a slewfull of other homeopathic 'miracles' but I get a snake oil vibe from that.

If you do go the DE route for fleas or bedbugs, make sure you get the right kind, the "Food Safe" stuff. The other stuff is bad.

The spoon looks rather creepy. Crystallized bedbug excretions ewww.
 
2013-01-04 05:09:04 AM
If ever there was an insect species deserving of extinction, it'd be those little bastards. Fleas are a close second.
 
2013-01-04 05:11:07 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


Guaranteed the bugs initially got there by stowing away on one of those couches.
 
2013-01-04 05:22:26 AM

camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.


Sure about that? Crawling all over Salt Lake

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...

OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Go down to a state with bayous and lots of humidity where it rarely gets down to freezing
 
2013-01-04 05:48:00 AM
Maybe if 007 came in to case the joint, you know make sure it's bug free.
 
2013-01-04 05:56:27 AM
Bedbugs are spread by mexicans!
 
2013-01-04 06:03:56 AM

Plant Rights Activist: Why would you throw them out!? Donate them to goodwill for the tax writeoff!


yeah - bed bugs for the poor!
 
2013-01-04 06:06:02 AM

Arumat: If ever there was an insect species deserving of extinction, it'd be those little bastards. Fleas are a close second.


all of the reasons you think they deserve to be extinct are pretty much the reasons why nature and biology thinks the exact opposite.
 
2013-01-04 06:07:06 AM
10 couches? what's the over under on one of those being the way they got infested in the first place?

otherwise how big is that apartment!?
 
2013-01-04 06:08:48 AM
my neighbors in the next door apt had an insane infestation of bedbugs that started spreading to my apt. at first i didnt realize what the huge red splotches all over my body were and thought it was a reaction to the antibiotics i was taking. it was only when i saw a huge ass bed bug crawling toward me in the middle of the day and googled "little brown bug" that i realized I was pretty farked.

I kept all my clothes in sealed bags, got a mattress and box spring cover, moved the bed away from the wall, threw out an old stuffed chair and put tons of diatomaceous earth everywhere. It definitely helped, as did keeping a vigilant eye out for anything crawling on the walls or especially on the bed.

Around the time I implemented as many antibug strategies as possible, the neighbors moved out. I checked out their apt after they had moved and before the land lord had it cleaned, and there were bloodstains all over the walls where the tenants had killed the bugs. It was NASTY. The tenants had no furniture and slept on the floor so it was like a feeding frenzy for the bugs. I put a bunch of DE near the doorway so the bugs couldn't leave the apt under the door and come into mine.

Luckily SOMEHOW after the apt was cleaned the bugs went away without any treatment from pest control or anything. I will NEVER sleep with my bed against a wall again though, and I check bed bug registries and whatnot when staying in hotels.

/itch
 
2013-01-04 06:09:13 AM
 
2013-01-04 06:10:28 AM

Pathman: 10 couches? what's the over under on one of those being the way they got infested in the first place?


It's called 1 wide 2 deep.
 
2013-01-04 06:12:09 AM

TheBystanderEffect: camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...

Yeah, because it's every girl's dream to go live in Utah with some internet creeper who saw her in a news report about her bedbug issue.


it might not have been her childhood dream - but after living through the bedbug nightmare maybe she's ready to reevaluate.
 
2013-01-04 06:21:31 AM

CheetahOlivetti: Bedbugs don't mind cold weather


Au Contraire, temps below about 25F will kill bed bugs, the downside is that it will take about 5 days of exposure to temps consistently below that point to kill all stages of them.

The "newest" treatment for them seems to be to use a specially designed "fogger" which shoots a "snow" of dry ice at temps about -100F which kills the little buggers on the spot regardless of their stage of development.
 
2013-01-04 06:23:57 AM

sloshed_again: Pathman: 10 couches? what's the over under on one of those being the way they got infested in the first place?

It's called 1 wide 2 deep.


i don't get that reference?
 
2013-01-04 06:42:54 AM
I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?
 
2013-01-04 06:46:04 AM

dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?


Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.
 
2013-01-04 06:46:56 AM

Matthew Keene: Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.


...and can use public transportation.
 
2013-01-04 06:47:44 AM

Pathman: Plant Rights Activist: Why would you throw them out!? Donate them to goodwill for the tax writeoff!

yeah - bed bugs for the poor!


Couches can be evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDjVHFHbcQ
 
2013-01-04 06:48:19 AM

Ivo Shandor: I recommend fire, and lots of it. Hate those little bastards.


My dad thought he had an infestation (the dog had brought in some fleas as it turns out). His first thought was burning his house down and starting all over again.
 
2013-01-04 07:07:43 AM
"I've got bites on my stomach. My dad's got bites all over his back. It's not healthy," Shannon Amy told 3TV.

Incest never is.

/substitute zombie joke if preferred.
 
2013-01-04 07:10:42 AM

Matthew Keene: Matthew Keene: Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.

...and can use public transportation.


I bet they're on the subways too.
 
2013-01-04 07:15:23 AM

Matthew Keene: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.


I read a story the other day that said 20 parsecs.
 
2013-01-04 07:16:32 AM

Uniquely Common: Itchy just reading about this. I get swarmed by misquotes, fleas, chiggers every summer out hiking (with bug repellant on) ... I would literally die from blood loss if bedbugs ever infested my house.


/tastes oh so good


Mosquitoes and flies and the like love me. I'll have a dozen mosquito bites when my GF hasn't even seen one. We had bed bugs in a hotel we stayed at in Ottawa (an expensive one), and our apartment briefly (not related). She was bitten all over, I didn't have a single bite. So you and I may be mosquito bait, but if that makes me bed bug bane, I can live with that.

/we killed them with raid on the bed and diowhatsit earth everywhere.
 
2013-01-04 07:22:30 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


When they put their couch out on the curb to be taken away, they just took the one next to it.
 
2013-01-04 07:26:06 AM
I've never had them, but I can imagine lots of ways to clean up:

Steam clean everything thoroughly, then encase mattresses in a nylon mattress cover that zips up the whole thing. It'd starve out any microbe in that matress unless they eat the matress itself.

The couch...I dunno. Buy leather, or else encase that in some vinyl or leather cover. Maybe soak it in lysol and leave it in the hot Arizona sun for a day.
 
2013-01-04 07:26:46 AM
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♫A spoonful of bedbugs helps the vomit go down, the vomit go down...♪
 
2013-01-04 07:32:03 AM
The landlord:
1.bp.blogspot.com

The residents think the bugs are bad now...wait until they are full grown and leaping at your head.
 
2013-01-04 07:40:12 AM

sithon: DDT, accept no substitutes.


Ding, ding, ding.
 
2013-01-04 07:41:42 AM

sno man: Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

winning question!


I assume these couch puchases were spread over several years masking the costs

A. There was a yelp review of this complex from almost 2 years ago bed bugs in this place. Figure its been going on for at least 3 years

B. you can get an apartment sized used couch for a couple hundred bucks

C. 7 * $200 = $1400 / 3 = $466/year. Manageable for apartment dwellers
 
2013-01-04 07:42:56 AM

ChubbyTiger: Matthew Keene: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.

I read a story the other day that said 20 parsecs.


I heard they could do the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs
 
2013-01-04 07:44:37 AM

dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?


they aren't attracted to beds/sofas, they are attracted to the blood of the people who sit/sleep on them. Just dust everywhere, especially along the edges and corners
 
2013-01-04 07:45:31 AM
Kingly Weevil [TotalFark] 2013-01-04 12:01:38 AM

My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


Thrift store, Goodwill, Craigslist.

Just FYI it is possible to get rid of bed bugs in a home, but in an apartment building, you're pretty much screwed unless everyone is on the same page.

Everyone must live out of plastic bags or bins. Every apartment must be treated consistently on the same days. Everyone must have mattress covers for mattresses and box springs and plastic to to cover their furniture.

Everyone must be willing to do whatever it takes to get the buggers out and keep them out.

We had an infestation a few years ago and it wasn't easy, it took three months, but we got rid of them. The last hotel I stayed in, a bed bug came marching across the bed. I would not let anyone bring their bags in the house. We bagged everything in garbage bags, methodically put all clothes in the dryer and inspected all bags before they could be sprayed and inspected. It was a royal pain in the ass but we do not have bed bugs as a result of that hotel visit.

I inspected everyone before we left the hotel, lest we infest our relatives or their church. I know this sounds excessive, but bed bugs can be spotted; they are small but they are NOT microscopic and if you take care, you can keep from spreading the damned things simply by checking your purses and clothes before you leave the house.

I take a can of OFF with me to movie theaters. OFF and this stuff called Sterofab will keep them away from your bed so you can get a decent night's sleep while you're fighting them. They also don't like light much and sleeping with even a dim light on helps.

I hate these little bastards and I had scars for over a year from the bites and scratching. The itching alone will drive you mad. And while cleanliness helps, it's really keeping down clutter that is best of all, hard in a world where I love books, but it made the case for getting a Kindle better than anything else could do.

Sorry to go on so much, but the subject of bedbugs always gets me riled.
 
2013-01-04 07:49:40 AM
I'm very itchy now. Thanks subby.
 
2013-01-04 07:59:48 AM

Skr: I can't vouch for it killing bedbugs (have avoided that nastiness so far,) but Diatomaceous Earth killed the shiat out of a flea problem my dog rolled into. When rubbed into the coat it can dry out the animal's skin but coupled with a light powdering of the house it cleared the buggers out quick.

I've heard tell of DE being a great dietary supplement for people and it killing harmful stuff in the digestive track and a slewfull of other homeopathic 'miracles' but I get a snake oil vibe from that.

If you do go the DE route for fleas or bedbugs, make sure you get the right kind, the "Food Safe" stuff. The other stuff is bad.

The spoon looks rather creepy. Crystallized bedbug excretions ewww.


Yup. DE is a relatively safe product that murders ittsy bitsy bugs very well. And it's not a merical cure... People use it all the time for purposes of deworming. It's not bad for you but yeah there's prolly better cures for worms.

Our apartment building got them from our hooker loving neighbour and they got in through the holes where the heat pipes ran through so they were only in our clothes and closet.

Bagged everything and put it on the balcony. Pest guys sprayed the edges where they could get in and then after they were done me and the wife tossed the rest of our clothes onto the balcony and hung out in the buff for the day.

But we live in Edmonton and it was damned cold outside. They haven't come back so I'm happy bout that.

CSB I suppose...
 
2013-01-04 08:04:03 AM
The gentleman on the right approves, after he takes your thumb:

farm6.staticflickr.com
/CHARLIE!
 
2013-01-04 08:09:31 AM
Costco has a 10 pack on couches.
 
2013-01-04 08:16:09 AM
This is why am am loathed to stay in hotels anymore. Even the upscale ones aren't safe. Unfortunately, I have to stay in one this weekend. And, yes, I will be showering as my last action before checking out.
 
2013-01-04 08:18:27 AM
Diatomaceous earth works but it takes time... I had to outline the edges of every wall, doorway, and piece of furniture in my apartment... Plus coat the bed spring and mattress, under the sheet. I also kept a spray bottle of rubbing alcohol (the 91% variety) to spray any that I saw, it kills them instantly... Took awhile to work, but eventually they did die...
 
2013-01-04 08:19:33 AM
Ewww!!!!!!

Just ewwww!
 
2013-01-04 08:21:17 AM

dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?


They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...
 
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