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(AZ Family)   You know your apartment has a bedbug problem when you can scoop up spoonfuls of them from your couch. "We've already thrown away 10 couches"   (azfamily.com) divider line 191
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2013-01-03 09:41:41 PM
I recommend fire, and lots of it. Hate those little bastards.
 
2013-01-03 09:49:00 PM
*HORK*
 
2013-01-03 10:20:42 PM
Well, that's f*cking disgusting.
 
Byn
2013-01-03 10:25:51 PM
*BARF*
 
2013-01-03 10:50:43 PM
DDT, accept no substitutes.
 
2013-01-03 11:34:23 PM
I don't even know what one looks like.  I've read they look like apple seeds, but nothing on that spoon looks like an apple seed.
 
2013-01-03 11:50:40 PM
Maricopa County

Get sheriff Joe on it!
 
2013-01-03 11:53:25 PM
*RALPH*
 
2013-01-03 11:54:14 PM
I seriously thought that said "crotch."
 
2013-01-03 11:55:55 PM
farking sanitation, how does it work?
 
2013-01-04 12:00:19 AM

cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?


That pretty much does nothing to stop bed bugs. They're like lice, but worse. They don't care if you're dirty or not. Short of throwing away all your clothes, sheets, curtains, towels, washer, dryer, furniture, and tearing up all the carpet....When it comes to bed bugs on that scale, you're reduced to scorched earth or nothing. And if anyone in the apartments around you still has them, it doesn't matter because they're coming back even if you get rid of them.
 
2013-01-04 12:01:38 AM
My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?
 
2013-01-04 12:11:01 AM

cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?


Not at all on bedbugs is how it works.  These people do not have infestations because they lack cleanliness.  These motherfarkers can be as thin as a sheet of paper and can hide anywhere.  In electrical outlets, folds of any kind of furniture, behind paintings or pictures, in drawers or wardrobes, in shoes, behind baseboards, in thermostats...practically anywhere.

Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

Took two years to get rid of them when we had them.  At least six visits from pest control, washing everything we owned.

That accomplished nothing. I too got rid of couches.  Three of them.  Got rid of box springs and mattresses.

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.
 
2013-01-04 12:45:07 AM

cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?


Bedbugs don't eat dirt, or skin flakes, or spilled cheetos. They only crave blood. And if you live in an apartment it doesn't matter how well you look after your own suite, because they will come through the walls (via electrical outlets or water pipes) and under your door from across the hallway.

Those bugs are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are itching like a motherfarker.
 
2013-01-04 12:45:50 AM
Gak! Those bastards are why I hate staying in hotels. I would rather sleep in my car than bring a load of those f*ckers home.
 
2013-01-04 01:07:47 AM
That is goddamn disgusting.
 
2013-01-04 01:13:50 AM
My oldest daughter dealt with them at one point. The apartment management paid to have her apt baked three time. She had to pay for it the fourth time, but the exterminator told her if she found another bedbug within a (short period of time) they would come back for free. She found live bedbugs within 36 hours of having her apt treated the next few times. She threw away so many mattresses, box springs, couches, chairs and items of clothing that I lost track.

We/she thought that the problem was mostly under control when she moved out. By the time we got her stuff out to the trucks, half of her furniture was obviously infested.
 
2013-01-04 01:15:23 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

Not at all on bedbugs is how it works.  These people do not have infestations because they lack cleanliness.  These motherfarkers can be as thin as a sheet of paper and can hide anywhere.  In electrical outlets, folds of any kind of furniture, behind paintings or pictures, in drawers or wardrobes, in shoes, behind baseboards, in thermostats...practically anywhere.

Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

Took two years to get rid of them when we had them.  At least six visits from pest control, washing everything we owned.

That accomplished nothing. I too got rid of couches.  Three of them.  Got rid of box springs and mattresses.

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.


DE is a good idea. Works on ants as well. It's a lot cheaper to buy it at a pool supply store than from anywhere else.
 
2013-01-04 01:26:21 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


winning question!
 
2013-01-04 01:45:16 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


Friends, family, thrift stores, Craigslist, curbside.
 
2013-01-04 01:53:57 AM

simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

Not at all on bedbugs is how it works.  These people do not have infestations because they lack cleanliness.  These motherfarkers can be as thin as a sheet of paper and can hide anywhere.  In electrical outlets, folds of any kind of furniture, behind paintings or pictures, in drawers or wardrobes, in shoes, behind baseboards, in thermostats...practically anywhere.

Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

Took two years to get rid of them when we had them.  At least six visits from pest control, washing everything we owned.

That accomplished nothing. I too got rid of couches.  Three of them.  Got rid of box springs and mattresses.

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.

DE is a good idea. Works on ants as well. It's a lot cheaper to buy it at a pool supply store than from anywhere else.


It's pretty under a microscope, too:

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2013-01-04 02:28:57 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


HOW can you be so stupid? You would figure after the first .... 2 or 3 couches that you would learn to sit on metal folding chairs UNTIL the damn bugs are GONE GONE GONE
 
2013-01-04 02:30:55 AM

Philbb: My oldest daughter dealt with them at one point. The apartment management paid to have her apt baked three time. She had to pay for it the fourth time, but the exterminator told her if she found another bedbug within a (short period of time) they would come back for free. She found live bedbugs within 36 hours of having her apt treated the next few times. She threw away so many mattresses, box springs, couches, chairs and items of clothing that I lost track.

We/she thought that the problem was mostly under control when she moved out. By the time we got her stuff out to the trucks, half of her furniture was obviously infested.


SHUDDER
so is there an actual solution
other than leaving EVERYTHING that you own and starting over?

/SO FARKING glad that I dont have this problem
/WILL farkING KILL whoever brings this problem to my house
/no seriously, if you have bedbugs, WHY would you come to my house?
/stay the fark away from me until you are no longer unclean
 
2013-01-04 02:32:53 AM

namatad: Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

HOW can you be so stupid? You would figure after the first .... 2 or 3 couches that you would learn to sit on metal folding chairs UNTIL the damn bugs are GONE GONE GONE


The thing about bedbugs - they'd just live inside the metal folding chairs.  They aren't particular to fabric - they're particular to blood.
 
2013-01-04 02:38:30 AM
The easiest way to get rid of bedbugs is to import some spiders. Oodles and oodles of farking spiders. Of course, that may present another problem when all is said and done.
 
2013-01-04 02:51:07 AM
When they get up to two hundred couches, these guys would like to have a word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2vr4Eh58I0
 
2013-01-04 02:56:02 AM
Farkin' frankenbugs. I'm moving to Australia, where the beasts kill you somewhat quickly ('cept those blue-ringed octopus, in which case it's not quick enough) rather than some bug that bleeds you white, won't get off the sofa, and can hide in the remote control.
 
2013-01-04 02:59:57 AM

namatad: Philbb: My oldest daughter dealt with them at one point. The apartment management paid to have her apt baked three time. She had to pay for it the fourth time, but the exterminator told her if she found another bedbug within a (short period of time) they would come back for free. She found live bedbugs within 36 hours of having her apt treated the next few times. She threw away so many mattresses, box springs, couches, chairs and items of clothing that I lost track.

We/she thought that the problem was mostly under control when she moved out. By the time we got her stuff out to the trucks, half of her furniture was obviously infested.

SHUDDER
so is there an actual solution
other than leaving EVERYTHING that you own and starting over?

/SO FARKING glad that I dont have this problem
/WILL farkING KILL whoever brings this problem to my house
/no seriously, if you have bedbugs, WHY would you come to my house?
/stay the fark away from me until you are no longer unclean


I really don't know if there is an effective solution. At one point it was believed that it was an occupational therapist that was showing up on a weekly basis to treat her middle child.
 
2013-01-04 03:15:41 AM

hammettman: The easiest way to get rid of bedbugs is to import some spiders. Oodles and oodles of farking spiders. Of course, that may present another problem when all is said and done.


We're talking about Arizona....do you really want black widows and tarantulas all over your apartment?  And then you have to bring in a bunch of gila monsters to get rid of the spiders, and then gorillas to get rid of the gila monsters.
 
2013-01-04 03:28:43 AM

Farxist Marxist: Farkin' frankenbugs. I'm moving to Australia, where the beasts kill you somewhat quickly ('cept those blue-ringed octopus, in which case it's not quick enough) rather than some bug that bleeds you white, won't get off the sofa, and can hide in the remote control.


Don't worry, we've got them here too.  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-10/australia-facing-bedbug-invasio n /1938492

A friend of mine had them in her apartment in a well-to-do part of Sydney. In the end, she pretty much abandoned everything she owned, went slightly psycho and sat in a sauna for three hours (something about the heat killing the farkers as she thought they had got into her skin) and would only wear newly bought clothes. She then began to haunt non-bedbug-infested suburbs looking for a new place to stay, bug spray in hand. Poor girl is from London and last I heard she had returned, only to face the evil once more.

/And those bugs that bleed you white, won't get off the sofa and can hide in the remote control? They're known as men down here.
 
2013-01-04 03:42:00 AM
Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.
 
2013-01-04 03:46:02 AM
Why would you throw them out!? Donate them to goodwill for the tax writeoff!
 
2013-01-04 03:48:35 AM
Macy's is delivering my new couch in the morning, so I'm getting a kick...

/no lice
//just needed a new couch
/leather and goose down
 
2013-01-04 03:49:42 AM
i391.photobucket.com

And if that doesn't work

i391.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-04 03:53:38 AM

TommyymmoT: What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?


These farkers can go for a year without feeding. I suspect they can also survive a short period of oxygen deprivation.
 
2013-01-04 03:59:32 AM
People have been biatching about the snow. I say bring on the winter low temps. Freeze these farkers out (along with a host of other invasive bastards)
 
2013-01-04 04:01:18 AM
Itchy just reading about this. I get swarmed by misquotes, fleas, chiggers every summer out hiking (with bug repellant on) ... I would literally die from blood loss if bedbugs ever infested my house.


/tastes oh so good
 
2013-01-04 04:02:46 AM

TommyymmoT: Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.


Might work, but Jesus Christ would it be expensive.  Halon also doesn't remove all oxygen in a room, just enough to put a fire out.  I imagine you'd have to pump a boatload of the stuff in for a while to kill the bugs, and it would have to penetrate all the little nooks and crannies they hide in.  I don't have figures, but I imagine Halon doesn't penetrate the inside of a mattress all that fast.
 
2013-01-04 04:03:16 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


Probably found them on the street left for trash pickup. Because they were infested with bedbugs.
 
2013-01-04 04:04:49 AM
Stop living in Arizona. It's good for no one. Not you, not me, etc., etc, etc... I'm tired of you desert dwelling peoples biatching.
 
2013-01-04 04:09:23 AM

The_Sponge: hammettman: The easiest way to get rid of bedbugs is to import some spiders. Oodles and oodles of farking spiders. Of course, that may present another problem when all is said and done.

We're talking about Arizona....do you really want black widows and tarantulas all over your apartment?  And then you have to bring in a bunch of gila monsters to get rid of the spiders, and then gorillas to get rid of the gila monsters.


Unfortunately, Mesa doesn't have the cold winters to kill the gorillas.
 
2013-01-04 04:13:53 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

...

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.


They're not resistant to the pyrethrin derivatives used in most indoor pesticides... they're by and large completely immune to them. The diomataceous earth method has had some success, but the first and most effective thing to try is heat treatment, and that requires heating every internal volume in the building to in excess of 120 Fahrenheit uniformly, which is unfortunately flat-out impossible in many older buildings and even some newer ones.

The biggest problem is not even getting rid of them so much as the dormancy cycle of the eggs, if not heat-treated as above or sprayed directly with a dessicant (ethanol or methanol, usually, and I mean directly sprayed, you have to pull every baseboard and electric outlet cover in the house and any other crevice and spritz 'em) then they can stay dormant for as long as a year before hatching. Which means you sweep up your little circles of ethanol trench or sharp earth around the bedposts after sterilizing and a week later you're getting bitten again.

//Yeah, guess how I learned this one. Apartment management is a pain in the ass.
 
2013-01-04 04:16:35 AM

Mitch Mitchell: Stop living in Arizona. It's good for no one. Not you, not me, etc., etc, etc... I'm tired of you desert dwelling peoples biatching.


Just moved to California from Arizona. Had bedbugs while living there a few years ago, got to kill the nests around the house.
 
2013-01-04 04:18:08 AM

namatad:
SHUDDER
so is there an actual solution
other than leaving EVERYTHING that you own and starting over?


Again, 120 Fahrenheit+. Get an extermination company that actually specializes in bedbugs to give you a sealed bag with a heating unit in it, fry it for 4-8 hours. Generally you'll want the actual specialists involved to make sure it's heated uniformly, cold spots can harbor the eggs/bugs.

I know it's weird that the only really workable solution is almost literally "kill it with fire", but don't look at me, this is the actual result of industry research in the property and pest management industries.
 
2013-01-04 04:19:28 AM

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And if that doesn't work

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TY
made me LOL
 
2013-01-04 04:22:37 AM
Sleep tight, farkers.
 
2013-01-04 04:25:36 AM
t0.gstatic.com

We're gonna need a bigger couch.
 
2013-01-04 04:26:36 AM

namatad: Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

HOW can you be so stupid? You would figure after the first .... 2 or 3 couches that you would learn to sit on metal folding chairs UNTIL the damn bugs are GONE GONE GONE


So you'll have bedbugs in metal folding chair instead?

What would you accomplish other than sitting less comfortable. Well, maybe they'd be cheaper to replace constantly.
 
2013-01-04 04:26:54 AM

ladyfortuna: People have been biatching about the snow. I say bring on the winter low temps. Freeze these farkers out (along with a host of other invasive bastards)


Considering it's been -20C or lower here for most of the last two months and I have to have my apartment prevention treated for the second time on Monday because the apartment above mine has bedbugs, I suspect cold temperatures outdoors don't play much of a role in whether you have bedbugs indoors.
 
2013-01-04 04:31:11 AM

spawn73: namatad: Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

HOW can you be so stupid? You would figure after the first .... 2 or 3 couches that you would learn to sit on metal folding chairs UNTIL the damn bugs are GONE GONE GONE

So you'll have bedbugs in metal folding chair instead?

What would you accomplish other than sitting less comfortable. Well, maybe they'd be cheaper to replace constantly.


They are cheaper and easier to sterilize then a couch, so that could be one reason to go that route.
Aside from that, I imagine you could try to get used to sleeping on a cot that you can more easily clean daily and is cheaper and less of a pain to move in/out if it gets hopelessly infested.
 
2013-01-04 04:31:19 AM
I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.
 
2013-01-04 04:45:38 AM

camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.


Yet.
 
2013-01-04 04:53:48 AM
In the winter, if it gets below freezing outside where you live, wrap your mattresses, clothing, and furniture and put them outside for an hour or two. The cold kills em dead.

Fumigate the house in the mean time.

Or, as an alternative (if you don't mind draining the pipes so they don't burst) turn the heat off and open the windows, let the whole house get below freezing for a few hours.


Also they don't survive above 40°C (104°F) so you can buy an industrial heater and crank it up and leave it there for an hour or so. An acquaintance I knew did that for clients who wanted a pesticide-free fumigation.
 
2013-01-04 04:54:24 AM

TommyymmoT: Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.


Halon is a severe greenhouse gas.
 
2013-01-04 04:56:20 AM

inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.


-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...
 
2013-01-04 04:57:51 AM

TommyymmoT: Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.


Similar concepts are used to treat head lice (using a gel/shampoo that coats your head, and hardens and blocks oxygen) and takes about 4-6 hours of complete deprivation of oxygen to get the job done.  But halon is awfully darned expensive and actually doesn't remove oxygen (it actually is a heavy gas that BINDS with hydrogen which is a byproduct of flames/fire and therefore forms a barrier between the fuel (what's burning) and the oxygen in the air around it and therefore smothers the fire).  If you could truly seal the home and be sure that you have replaced all the air inside then I imagine any inert gas that doesn't have oxygen in it would do the trick.

/works with data centers
//been in a room that dumped halon more than once
 
2013-01-04 05:00:01 AM

apoptotic: ladyfortuna: People have been biatching about the snow. I say bring on the winter low temps. Freeze these farkers out (along with a host of other invasive bastards)

Considering it's been -20C or lower here for most of the last two months and I have to have my apartment prevention treated for the second time on Monday because the apartment above mine has bedbugs, I suspect cold temperatures outdoors don't play much of a role in whether you have bedbugs indoors.


Bedbugs don't mind cold weather. But temps over 120 or so will kill them. That's why one of the most effective treatments is to move everyone out, seal the building, and then heatblast it for several hours. Works better than pesticide.
 
2013-01-04 05:01:10 AM

camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...


Yeah, because it's every girl's dream to go live in Utah with some internet creeper who saw her in a news report about her bedbug issue.
 
2013-01-04 05:03:16 AM

Kingly Weevil: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

That pretty much does nothing to stop bed bugs. They're like lice, but worse. They don't care if you're dirty or not. Short of throwing away all your clothes, sheets, curtains, towels, washer, dryer, furniture, and tearing up all the carpet....When it comes to bed bugs on that scale, you're reduced to scorched earth or nothing. And if anyone in the apartments around you still has them, it doesn't matter because they're coming back even if you get rid of them.


Pretty much. You get bedbugs, plan to burn the house to the foundations.
 
Skr
2013-01-04 05:03:30 AM
I can't vouch for it killing bedbugs (have avoided that nastiness so far,) but Diatomaceous Earth killed the shiat out of a flea problem my dog rolled into. When rubbed into the coat it can dry out the animal's skin but coupled with a light powdering of the house it cleared the buggers out quick.

I've heard tell of DE being a great dietary supplement for people and it killing harmful stuff in the digestive track and a slewfull of other homeopathic 'miracles' but I get a snake oil vibe from that.

If you do go the DE route for fleas or bedbugs, make sure you get the right kind, the "Food Safe" stuff. The other stuff is bad.

The spoon looks rather creepy. Crystallized bedbug excretions ewww.
 
2013-01-04 05:09:04 AM
If ever there was an insect species deserving of extinction, it'd be those little bastards. Fleas are a close second.
 
2013-01-04 05:11:07 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


Guaranteed the bugs initially got there by stowing away on one of those couches.
 
2013-01-04 05:22:26 AM

camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.


Sure about that? Crawling all over Salt Lake

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...

OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Go down to a state with bayous and lots of humidity where it rarely gets down to freezing
 
2013-01-04 05:48:00 AM
Maybe if 007 came in to case the joint, you know make sure it's bug free.
 
2013-01-04 05:56:27 AM
Bedbugs are spread by mexicans!
 
2013-01-04 06:03:56 AM

Plant Rights Activist: Why would you throw them out!? Donate them to goodwill for the tax writeoff!


yeah - bed bugs for the poor!
 
2013-01-04 06:06:02 AM

Arumat: If ever there was an insect species deserving of extinction, it'd be those little bastards. Fleas are a close second.


all of the reasons you think they deserve to be extinct are pretty much the reasons why nature and biology thinks the exact opposite.
 
2013-01-04 06:07:06 AM
10 couches? what's the over under on one of those being the way they got infested in the first place?

otherwise how big is that apartment!?
 
2013-01-04 06:08:48 AM
my neighbors in the next door apt had an insane infestation of bedbugs that started spreading to my apt. at first i didnt realize what the huge red splotches all over my body were and thought it was a reaction to the antibiotics i was taking. it was only when i saw a huge ass bed bug crawling toward me in the middle of the day and googled "little brown bug" that i realized I was pretty farked.

I kept all my clothes in sealed bags, got a mattress and box spring cover, moved the bed away from the wall, threw out an old stuffed chair and put tons of diatomaceous earth everywhere. It definitely helped, as did keeping a vigilant eye out for anything crawling on the walls or especially on the bed.

Around the time I implemented as many antibug strategies as possible, the neighbors moved out. I checked out their apt after they had moved and before the land lord had it cleaned, and there were bloodstains all over the walls where the tenants had killed the bugs. It was NASTY. The tenants had no furniture and slept on the floor so it was like a feeding frenzy for the bugs. I put a bunch of DE near the doorway so the bugs couldn't leave the apt under the door and come into mine.

Luckily SOMEHOW after the apt was cleaned the bugs went away without any treatment from pest control or anything. I will NEVER sleep with my bed against a wall again though, and I check bed bug registries and whatnot when staying in hotels.

/itch
 
2013-01-04 06:09:13 AM
 
2013-01-04 06:10:28 AM

Pathman: 10 couches? what's the over under on one of those being the way they got infested in the first place?


It's called 1 wide 2 deep.
 
2013-01-04 06:12:09 AM

TheBystanderEffect: camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...

Yeah, because it's every girl's dream to go live in Utah with some internet creeper who saw her in a news report about her bedbug issue.


it might not have been her childhood dream - but after living through the bedbug nightmare maybe she's ready to reevaluate.
 
2013-01-04 06:21:31 AM

CheetahOlivetti: Bedbugs don't mind cold weather


Au Contraire, temps below about 25F will kill bed bugs, the downside is that it will take about 5 days of exposure to temps consistently below that point to kill all stages of them.

The "newest" treatment for them seems to be to use a specially designed "fogger" which shoots a "snow" of dry ice at temps about -100F which kills the little buggers on the spot regardless of their stage of development.
 
2013-01-04 06:23:57 AM

sloshed_again: Pathman: 10 couches? what's the over under on one of those being the way they got infested in the first place?

It's called 1 wide 2 deep.


i don't get that reference?
 
2013-01-04 06:42:54 AM
I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?
 
2013-01-04 06:46:04 AM

dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?


Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.
 
2013-01-04 06:46:56 AM

Matthew Keene: Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.


...and can use public transportation.
 
2013-01-04 06:47:44 AM

Pathman: Plant Rights Activist: Why would you throw them out!? Donate them to goodwill for the tax writeoff!

yeah - bed bugs for the poor!


Couches can be evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDjVHFHbcQ
 
2013-01-04 06:48:19 AM

Ivo Shandor: I recommend fire, and lots of it. Hate those little bastards.


My dad thought he had an infestation (the dog had brought in some fleas as it turns out). His first thought was burning his house down and starting all over again.
 
2013-01-04 07:07:43 AM
"I've got bites on my stomach. My dad's got bites all over his back. It's not healthy," Shannon Amy told 3TV.

Incest never is.

/substitute zombie joke if preferred.
 
2013-01-04 07:10:42 AM

Matthew Keene: Matthew Keene: Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.

...and can use public transportation.


I bet they're on the subways too.
 
2013-01-04 07:15:23 AM

Matthew Keene: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.


I read a story the other day that said 20 parsecs.
 
2013-01-04 07:16:32 AM

Uniquely Common: Itchy just reading about this. I get swarmed by misquotes, fleas, chiggers every summer out hiking (with bug repellant on) ... I would literally die from blood loss if bedbugs ever infested my house.


/tastes oh so good


Mosquitoes and flies and the like love me. I'll have a dozen mosquito bites when my GF hasn't even seen one. We had bed bugs in a hotel we stayed at in Ottawa (an expensive one), and our apartment briefly (not related). She was bitten all over, I didn't have a single bite. So you and I may be mosquito bait, but if that makes me bed bug bane, I can live with that.

/we killed them with raid on the bed and diowhatsit earth everywhere.
 
2013-01-04 07:22:30 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


When they put their couch out on the curb to be taken away, they just took the one next to it.
 
2013-01-04 07:26:06 AM
I've never had them, but I can imagine lots of ways to clean up:

Steam clean everything thoroughly, then encase mattresses in a nylon mattress cover that zips up the whole thing. It'd starve out any microbe in that matress unless they eat the matress itself.

The couch...I dunno. Buy leather, or else encase that in some vinyl or leather cover. Maybe soak it in lysol and leave it in the hot Arizona sun for a day.
 
2013-01-04 07:26:46 AM
cdn.blisstree.com
♫A spoonful of bedbugs helps the vomit go down, the vomit go down...♪
 
2013-01-04 07:32:03 AM
The landlord:
1.bp.blogspot.com

The residents think the bugs are bad now...wait until they are full grown and leaping at your head.
 
2013-01-04 07:40:12 AM

sithon: DDT, accept no substitutes.


Ding, ding, ding.
 
2013-01-04 07:41:42 AM

sno man: Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

winning question!


I assume these couch puchases were spread over several years masking the costs

A. There was a yelp review of this complex from almost 2 years ago bed bugs in this place. Figure its been going on for at least 3 years

B. you can get an apartment sized used couch for a couple hundred bucks

C. 7 * $200 = $1400 / 3 = $466/year. Manageable for apartment dwellers
 
2013-01-04 07:42:56 AM

ChubbyTiger: Matthew Keene: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

Actually I've heard they can jump up to 20 miles.

I read a story the other day that said 20 parsecs.


I heard they could do the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs
 
2013-01-04 07:44:37 AM

dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?


they aren't attracted to beds/sofas, they are attracted to the blood of the people who sit/sleep on them. Just dust everywhere, especially along the edges and corners
 
2013-01-04 07:45:31 AM
Kingly Weevil [TotalFark] 2013-01-04 12:01:38 AM

My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


Thrift store, Goodwill, Craigslist.

Just FYI it is possible to get rid of bed bugs in a home, but in an apartment building, you're pretty much screwed unless everyone is on the same page.

Everyone must live out of plastic bags or bins. Every apartment must be treated consistently on the same days. Everyone must have mattress covers for mattresses and box springs and plastic to to cover their furniture.

Everyone must be willing to do whatever it takes to get the buggers out and keep them out.

We had an infestation a few years ago and it wasn't easy, it took three months, but we got rid of them. The last hotel I stayed in, a bed bug came marching across the bed. I would not let anyone bring their bags in the house. We bagged everything in garbage bags, methodically put all clothes in the dryer and inspected all bags before they could be sprayed and inspected. It was a royal pain in the ass but we do not have bed bugs as a result of that hotel visit.

I inspected everyone before we left the hotel, lest we infest our relatives or their church. I know this sounds excessive, but bed bugs can be spotted; they are small but they are NOT microscopic and if you take care, you can keep from spreading the damned things simply by checking your purses and clothes before you leave the house.

I take a can of OFF with me to movie theaters. OFF and this stuff called Sterofab will keep them away from your bed so you can get a decent night's sleep while you're fighting them. They also don't like light much and sleeping with even a dim light on helps.

I hate these little bastards and I had scars for over a year from the bites and scratching. The itching alone will drive you mad. And while cleanliness helps, it's really keeping down clutter that is best of all, hard in a world where I love books, but it made the case for getting a Kindle better than anything else could do.

Sorry to go on so much, but the subject of bedbugs always gets me riled.
 
2013-01-04 07:49:40 AM
I'm very itchy now. Thanks subby.
 
2013-01-04 07:59:48 AM

Skr: I can't vouch for it killing bedbugs (have avoided that nastiness so far,) but Diatomaceous Earth killed the shiat out of a flea problem my dog rolled into. When rubbed into the coat it can dry out the animal's skin but coupled with a light powdering of the house it cleared the buggers out quick.

I've heard tell of DE being a great dietary supplement for people and it killing harmful stuff in the digestive track and a slewfull of other homeopathic 'miracles' but I get a snake oil vibe from that.

If you do go the DE route for fleas or bedbugs, make sure you get the right kind, the "Food Safe" stuff. The other stuff is bad.

The spoon looks rather creepy. Crystallized bedbug excretions ewww.


Yup. DE is a relatively safe product that murders ittsy bitsy bugs very well. And it's not a merical cure... People use it all the time for purposes of deworming. It's not bad for you but yeah there's prolly better cures for worms.

Our apartment building got them from our hooker loving neighbour and they got in through the holes where the heat pipes ran through so they were only in our clothes and closet.

Bagged everything and put it on the balcony. Pest guys sprayed the edges where they could get in and then after they were done me and the wife tossed the rest of our clothes onto the balcony and hung out in the buff for the day.

But we live in Edmonton and it was damned cold outside. They haven't come back so I'm happy bout that.

CSB I suppose...
 
2013-01-04 08:04:03 AM
The gentleman on the right approves, after he takes your thumb:

farm6.staticflickr.com
/CHARLIE!
 
2013-01-04 08:09:31 AM
Costco has a 10 pack on couches.
 
2013-01-04 08:16:09 AM
This is why am am loathed to stay in hotels anymore. Even the upscale ones aren't safe. Unfortunately, I have to stay in one this weekend. And, yes, I will be showering as my last action before checking out.
 
2013-01-04 08:18:27 AM
Diatomaceous earth works but it takes time... I had to outline the edges of every wall, doorway, and piece of furniture in my apartment... Plus coat the bed spring and mattress, under the sheet. I also kept a spray bottle of rubbing alcohol (the 91% variety) to spray any that I saw, it kills them instantly... Took awhile to work, but eventually they did die...
 
2013-01-04 08:19:33 AM
Ewww!!!!!!

Just ewwww!
 
2013-01-04 08:21:17 AM

dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?


They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...
 
2013-01-04 08:22:58 AM

havana_joe: Diatomaceous earth works but it takes time... I had to outline the edges of every wall, doorway, and piece of furniture in my apartment...


How much of a radius from the walls? One foot?

I'm trying to learn this stuff now because I live in the bedbug capital of the world.
 
2013-01-04 08:24:25 AM

sithon: DDT, accept no substitutes.


It hasn't worked on bedbugs since the 1940's dude.
 
2013-01-04 08:25:58 AM

Hermione_Granger: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

Thrift store, Goodwill, Craigslist.


There's your problem. Assume any previously owned furniture is crawling with them.
 
2013-01-04 08:26:51 AM
 
2013-01-04 08:27:13 AM

ole prophet: sithon: DDT, accept no substitutes.

Ding, ding, ding.


see above. I HATE this talking point. It's wrong on so many levels.
 
2013-01-04 08:27:16 AM
Gyaaaayyygggggghhhh!

I've dealt with the farkers before, when subletting an apartment/house for a summer. Turns out they were living on bats in the attic (which everyone, including the landlord, had sworn were not there). I double-bagged everything I could, ran all clothes through the laundry machine, went home to NC, and didn't take *anything* out of my car until it had been in the NC summer sun for several, several days in my car. (Left a thermometer in there to check the temperature). Even though I've heard the ones that live on/with bats aren't as likely to hitchike...

I was *still* waking up in the middle of the night and frantically checking everything for *years*. You know that weird little feelinng you sometimes get, where your body tricks you into thinking something's crawling on your arm/whatever? That would cause me to throw of the sheets and desperately check (and smell) for bedbugs (They have a really... distinct scent that they can leave behind. It's a sort of weird, buggy-sweet smell. Hard to describe.)

I absolutely understand how halucinatory parisitosis works now.

Also, to the guy that suggested smothering them with Halon: dunno if that would work. I recall a story about someone sealing a few in a plastic bag...

They BRED. And were still alive. Six months later.

/Even if we bring back DDT, may not work: I'd heard something along the lines of them having started to develop resistance?...
 
2013-01-04 08:29:52 AM

havana_joe: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...


horrornews.net
 
2013-01-04 08:32:25 AM

cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?


Some very clean people with gobs of money have bedbugs.
 
2013-01-04 08:32:35 AM

Ikahoshi: In the winter, if it gets below freezing outside where you live, wrap your mattresses, clothing, and furniture and put them outside for an hour or two. The cold kills em dead.

Fumigate the house in the mean time.

Or, as an alternative (if you don't mind draining the pipes so they don't burst) turn the heat off and open the windows, let the whole house get below freezing for a few hours.


Also they don't survive above 40°C (104°F) so you can buy an industrial heater and crank it up and leave it there for an hour or so. An acquaintance I knew did that for clients who wanted a pesticide-free fumigation.


.
Frezzing is an interesting concept. According to the EPA it takes at least a week of below 20f to kill the bastards. Link
 
2013-01-04 08:35:39 AM
I had bedbugs in the apartment building last year. I threw out a couch and only had a leather ottoman to sit on for a while in my living room (I didn't want to buy anything until I knew the issue was done)
I then also bough mattress covers specifically for bedbugs. I didn't have any box springs or I would have probably thrown those out with the couch.

My landlord came in and sprayed some junk about 3 times a week for at least a month, then about once a week for another 2 months until no one reported any more issues.  I had to wash every. single. farking thing.

I had to make sure book bags and kids stuff stayed off the floor and away from beds too.

I still have those mattress covers on the beds, and even though it's been over a year now, if I ever get to move out that shiatty apartment, I'll leave the mattresses behind... just in case
 
2013-01-04 08:38:57 AM
"We've already thrown away 10 couches"

Throwing away the wrong couch.
 
2013-01-04 08:39:12 AM

dervish16108: havana_joe: Diatomaceous earth works but it takes time... I had to outline the edges of every wall, doorway, and piece of furniture in my apartment...

How much of a radius from the walls? One foot?

I'm trying to learn this stuff now because I live in the bedbug capital of the world.


I used a spoon and put it right up against the edge of the wall and then smoothed it out with the back of the spoon. They tend to hide in cracks as opposed to out in the open. Basically, you need to make a barrier that they must cross to get to you. Once they cross the barrier the DE sticks to them and begins drying them out. Imagine if all your walls and furniture had chalk lines around them like you'd see at a crime scene- that is what I had to do. Outlines around the walls, the bed, the couch, the chairs, etc. And then I coated the bed spring and mattress thoroughly. Worked, but took a few weeks.
 
2013-01-04 08:42:43 AM
We live in the middle of three townhouses. Neighbor on one side is from a country where bedbugs are endemic and visits home occasionally. Last year we had an infestation and it took several months to get it under control. I've watched adult bugs scurry away after being sprayed with pyrethrin based sprays. The sprays might be more effective against eggs and nymphs, but not against adults. What killed them was a regimen of upending furniture twice a week to spray with 91% alcohol, Alpine Dust, which is a pesticide enhanced diatomaceous earth, and caulk. Lots of caulk. It was summer, so I took bedding and clothes, bagged them in plastic bags, and left them in a station wagon parked in full sun. I caulked all the trim around baseboards, doors, and windows, and filled in cracks on the backs of headboards and inside dressers. I removed the interfacing on the bottoms of the box springs and caulked all the cracks. I would spray liberally with the 91% alcohol, let it dry, and then dust with Alpine Dust. I used one of those hand bellows like you see in old cartoons. It took months for full eradication and I still have to be vigilant against new infestation.
 
2013-01-04 08:44:36 AM

camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.


Link

You were saying?
 
2013-01-04 08:45:17 AM

Hagbardr: We live in the middle of three townhouses. Neighbor on one side is from a country where bedbugs are endemic and visits home occasionally. Last year we had an infestation and it took several months to get it under control. I've watched adult bugs scurry away after being sprayed with pyrethrin based sprays. The sprays might be more effective against eggs and nymphs, but not against adults. What killed them was a regimen of upending furniture twice a week to spray with 91% alcohol, Alpine Dust, which is a pesticide enhanced diatomaceous earth, and caulk. Lots of caulk. It was summer, so I took bedding and clothes, bagged them in plastic bags, and left them in a station wagon parked in full sun. I caulked all the trim around baseboards, doors, and windows, and filled in cracks on the backs of headboards and inside dressers. I removed the interfacing on the bottoms of the box springs and caulked all the cracks. I would spray liberally with the 91% alcohol, let it dry, and then dust with Alpine Dust. I used one of those hand bellows like you see in old cartoons. It took months for full eradication and I still have to be vigilant against new infestation.


That is farking awful.
 
2013-01-04 08:45:48 AM

Hagbardr: caulk. It was summer, so I took bedding and clothes, bagged them in plastic bags, and left them in a station wagon parked in full sun. I caulked all the trim around baseboards, doors, and windows, and filled in cracks on the backs of headboards and inside dressers. I removed the interfacing on the bottoms of the box springs and caulked all the cracks. I would spray liberally with the 91% alcohol, let it dry, and then dust with Alpine Dust. I used one of those hand bellows like you see in old cartoons. It took months for full eradication and I still have to be vigilant against new infestation.


And your neighbor doesn't take basic precautions to keep from bringing them home? (Bagging his shoes, tossing everything in the drier once he gets home, etc?) That's kind assholish,a nd..

.. I..

OH GOD. I just realized, could he... could he have also infested the planes he was traveling on? Or the luggage of the other passengers?

... I'm going to go curl up in a ball now.
 
2013-01-04 08:45:56 AM

Hagbardr: We live in the middle of three townhouses. Neighbor on one side is from a country where bedbugs are endemic and visits home occasionally. Last year we had an infestation and it took several months to get it under control. I've watched adult bugs scurry away after being sprayed with pyrethrin based sprays. The sprays might be more effective against eggs and nymphs, but not against adults. What killed them was a regimen of upending furniture twice a week to spray with 91% alcohol, Alpine Dust, which is a pesticide enhanced diatomaceous earth, and caulk. Lots of caulk. It was summer, so I took bedding and clothes, bagged them in plastic bags, and left them in a station wagon parked in full sun. I caulked all the trim around baseboards, doors, and windows, and filled in cracks on the backs of headboards and inside dressers. I removed the interfacing on the bottoms of the box springs and caulked all the cracks. I would spray liberally with the 91% alcohol, let it dry, and then dust with Alpine Dust. I used one of those hand bellows like you see in old cartoons. It took months for full eradication and I still have to be vigilant against new infestation.


I also sprayed a few with pyrethrin and all they did was roll around like they were drunk but they didn't die... The 91% alcohol works beautifully, kills them damn near instantly...
 
2013-01-04 08:49:03 AM
sometimes the problem is the delivery guy who helps you get the old couch out.
he puts it in his truck to dispose of and then they are in the truck
ready for the next stop
i used to work for a furniture store that thought it was ok to mix old and new
and to help the customer
i got tired of telling them about this
 
2013-01-04 08:51:45 AM

Skr: I can't vouch for it killing bedbugs (have avoided that nastiness so far,) but Diatomaceous Earth killed the shiat out of a flea problem my dog rolled into. When rubbed into the coat it can dry out the animal's skin but coupled with a light powdering of the house it cleared the buggers out quick.

I've heard tell of DE being a great dietary supplement for people and it killing harmful stuff in the digestive track and a slewfull of other homeopathic 'miracles' but I get a snake oil vibe from that.

If you do go the DE route for fleas or bedbugs, make sure you get the right kind, the "Food Safe" stuff. The other stuff is bad.

The spoon looks rather creepy. Crystallized bedbug excretions ewww.


I'm one of the folks who catch grief here at fark over using Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth for the health benefits. Took a teaspoon a day for only two weeks back in June, 2012, mixed in orange juice. Saved my life, I kid you not. Funny, but I'd bought it in a ten pound box to kill bugs in my organic fig tree orchard, and boy did it work there too. Bed bug sufferers have no better tool than DE, dusted lightly on the furniture and in the carpets. Eliminates fleas, ticks, ants... all bugs.

I own an appliance repair company and carry in in the trucks. When we see roach infestations, we mix a teaspoon of DE with a teaspoon of sugar and toss the stuff behind the refrigerators. The roaches come for the sugar and walk thru it. Roaches are eliminated forever, and best of all, it's costing only about a nickel. Try it!
 
2013-01-04 08:52:17 AM

The_Sponge: We're talking about Arizona....do you really want black widows and tarantulas all over your apartment? And then you have to bring in a bunch of gila monsters to get rid of the spiders, and then gorillas to get rid of the gila monsters.


And then gojiras to get rid of the gorillas, and then tiny little asian women in a box to entreat a giant moth god to get rid of the gojiras. And then a humungous lightbulb to get rid of the moth god...

/ It never ends!
 
2013-01-04 08:52:35 AM

havana_joe: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...


That's good to know, I had been misinformed about jumping then.

havana_joe: dervish16108: havana_joe: Diatomaceous earth works but it takes time... I had to outline the edges of every wall, doorway, and piece of furniture in my apartment...

How much of a radius from the walls? One foot?

I'm trying to learn this stuff now because I live in the bedbug capital of the world.

I used a spoon and put it right up against the edge of the wall and then smoothed it out with the back of the spoon. They tend to hide in cracks as opposed to out in the open. Basically, you need to make a barrier that they must cross to get to you. Once they cross the barrier the DE sticks to them and begins drying them out. Imagine if all your walls and furniture had chalk lines around them like you'd see at a crime scene- that is what I had to do. Outlines around the walls, the bed, the couch, the chairs, etc. And then I coated the bed spring and mattress thoroughly. Worked, but took a few weeks.


Thanks very much!
 
2013-01-04 08:53:49 AM

Skr: I can't vouch for it killing bedbugs (have avoided that nastiness so far,) but Diatomaceous Earth killed the shiat out of a flea problem my dog rolled into. When rubbed into the coat it can dry out the animal's skin but coupled with a light powdering of the house it cleared the buggers out quick.

I've heard tell of DE being a great dietary supplement for people and it killing harmful stuff in the digestive track and a slewfull of other homeopathic 'miracles' but I get a snake oil vibe from that.

If you do go the DE route for fleas or bedbugs, make sure you get the right kind, the "Food Safe" stuff. The other stuff is bad.

The spoon looks rather creepy. Crystallized bedbug excretions ewww.


I got em too and killed them all with 3 exterminator visits. Had to wash everything. And within a month they were gone.
It's like a ritual taunt after the first exterminator visit for them to walk straight towards you to let you know that they're still alive and "fark you!"
So farking gross.
 
2013-01-04 08:54:10 AM

usernameguy: I seriously thought that said "crotch."


Me too and threw up in my mouth a little.
 
2013-01-04 08:54:40 AM
"can't afford to break your lease" I'm pretty sure the local housing authority will take care of that shiat with a single phone call.
 
2013-01-04 08:59:44 AM
I hate everyone in this thread. As far as I know, I've never seen a bedbug
 
2013-01-04 09:01:12 AM

HaywoodJablonski: I hate everyone in this thread. As far as I know, I've never seen a bedbug


Sounds like we all should be hating you.
 
2013-01-04 09:05:36 AM
"The landlords just aren't taking care of the problem," Amy said.
"It doesn't seem relevant or important enough for them to do something about it," added Missi Finlay, who lives upstairs.

OK then; why don't you put those spoonfuls of bedbugs in envelopes and mail them to the landlords. That might make them realize that yes, there is a problem.

/...and then you get evicted?
 
2013-01-04 09:07:49 AM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Pathman: Plant Rights Activist: Why would you throw them out!? Donate them to goodwill for the tax writeoff!

yeah - bed bugs for the poor!

Couches can be evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDjVHFHbcQ


haha - so awesome
 
2013-01-04 09:13:36 AM

simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

Not at all on bedbugs is how it works.  These people do not have infestations because they lack cleanliness.  These motherfarkers can be as thin as a sheet of paper and can hide anywhere.  In electrical outlets, folds of any kind of furniture, behind paintings or pictures, in drawers or wardrobes, in shoes, behind baseboards, in thermostats...practically anywhere.

Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

Took two years to get rid of them when we had them.  At least six visits from pest control, washing everything we owned.

That accomplished nothing. I too got rid of couches.  Three of them.  Got rid of box springs and mattresses.

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.

DE is a good idea. Works on ants as well. It's a lot cheaper to buy it at a pool supply store than from anywhere else.


There are twi kinds of diatomaceous earth. You do not use the pool kind for pest control! Pool grade DE contains chrystalline silica and is hazardous to health.
 
2013-01-04 09:15:02 AM

dervish16108: HaywoodJablonski: I hate everyone in this thread. As far as I know, I've never seen a bedbug

Sounds like we all should be hating you.


Touché
 
2013-01-04 09:16:20 AM
Nuke that building from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 
2013-01-04 09:18:26 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


That was my 1st thought...
 
2013-01-04 09:19:50 AM
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NOT reading TFA...
/he's become my favorite 'ewww' face
 
2013-01-04 09:21:46 AM
Several of the residents say they simply cannot afford to break their leases and move.
"I don't get paid enough to up and quit my lease and get my own place," Finlay told 3TV.


Wouldn't a pest infestation that bad allow you to break your lease without penalty since obviously the landlord isn't keeping a clean building?
 
2013-01-04 09:25:10 AM
When my wife and I were in college and living in a crappy apartment building, we got bed bugs. It started like us getting a few bites on our legs and by the end of it, my wife who was somewhat allergic to the bites, covered in swollen welts. We got blamed by the land lord and he had to treat all the adjacent apartments as well. It was a nightmare, we had to throw away all of our furniture. Rip up all the carpet to have pest control come in for multiple days. It turned out, the guy below us had rent a center furniture and that is where they came from. I still get paranoid if I see a small bug in the house
 
2013-01-04 09:28:00 AM

dervish16108: havana_joe: dervish16108: I'm trying to figure out exactly how to use diatamaceous earth powder for bedbug extermination.

If the apartment is empty, do you cover every square inch of the floor, or do you leave a bed and/or sofa and cover a 20 feet floor radius with DE (considering bedbugs jump 20 feet or so)?

They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...

That's good to know, I had been misinformed about jumping then.

havana_joe: dervish16108: havana_joe: Diatomaceous earth works but it takes time... I had to outline the edges of every wall, doorway, and piece of furniture in my apartment...

How much of a radius from the walls? One foot?

I'm trying to learn this stuff now because I live in the bedbug capital of the world.

I used a spoon and put it right up against the edge of the wall and then smoothed it out with the back of the spoon. They tend to hide in cracks as opposed to out in the open. Basically, you need to make a barrier that they must cross to get to you. Once they cross the barrier the DE sticks to them and begins drying them out. Imagine if all your walls and furniture had chalk lines around them like you'd see at a crime scene- that is what I had to do. Outlines around the walls, the bed, the couch, the chairs, etc. And then I coated the bed spring and mattress thoroughly. Worked, but took a few weeks.

Thanks very much!


You're very welcome!!!
 
2013-01-04 09:33:43 AM

havana_joe:

They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...


You're thinking of koalas.
 
2013-01-04 09:47:48 AM
when we were being treated for a bed bug infestation, the exterminator told me how you are more likely to pick them up from nicer hotels because they have more international travelers. Think about that the next time you pay more to stay in that upscale hotel
 
2013-01-04 10:00:36 AM
mmmmmm SO cozy!
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-04 10:06:49 AM

Pathman: Arumat: If ever there was an insect species deserving of extinction, it'd be those little bastards. Fleas are a close second.

all of the reasons you think they deserve to be extinct are pretty much the reasons why nature and biology thinks the exact opposite.


Lol wut?

Do tell us what nature thinks.
 
2013-01-04 10:07:46 AM
Couldn't get more than about 20 comment in before I started feeling itchy and had to stop reading. I'm sure some of the remaining posts are comedic genius, but I can't handle the ick factor.

/seriously, is there something crawling on me?!?!?!?
 
2013-01-04 10:20:11 AM
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"Fark Yo' Couch!"
 
2013-01-04 10:30:39 AM

Mija: simplicimus: AdolfOliverPanties: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

Not at all on bedbugs is how it works.  These people do not have infestations because they lack cleanliness.  These motherfarkers can be as thin as a sheet of paper and can hide anywhere.  In electrical outlets, folds of any kind of furniture, behind paintings or pictures, in drawers or wardrobes, in shoes, behind baseboards, in thermostats...practically anywhere.

Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

Took two years to get rid of them when we had them.  At least six visits from pest control, washing everything we owned.

That accomplished nothing. I too got rid of couches.  Three of them.  Got rid of box springs and mattresses.

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.

DE is a good idea. Works on ants as well. It's a lot cheaper to buy it at a pool supply store than from anywhere else.

There are twi kinds of diatomaceous earth. You do not use the pool kind for pest control! Pool grade DE contains chrystalline silica and is hazardous to health.


No. ALL diatomaceous earth products are crystalline silica. That's the entire point. They're the crystal silica shells of diatoms. The fact that it's hazardous to health is ALSO the entire point; it's hazardous to the health of the bedbugs.

When handling DE, take simple precautions like wearing gloves and a respirator. Mostly, don't breathe it or you'll experience something akin to asbestosis.
 
2013-01-04 10:31:03 AM

Ikahoshi: In the winter, if it gets below freezing outside where you live, wrap your mattresses, clothing, and furniture and put them outside for an hour or two. The cold kills em dead.


This also works on those one-night stands that just will not leave.
 
2013-01-04 10:31:48 AM
After visiting hotels or anything I leave my luggage in my car with the windows rolled up for the day. Gets about 160 in there. Hot enough to kill a baby, hot enough to kill a bed bug.
 
2013-01-04 10:32:24 AM

Philbb: My oldest daughter dealt with them at one point. The apartment management paid to have her apt baked three time. She had to pay for it the fourth time, but the exterminator told her if she found another bedbug within a (short period of time) they would come back for free. She found live bedbugs within 36 hours of having her apt treated the next few times. She threw away so many mattresses, box springs, couches, chairs and items of clothing that I lost track.

We/she thought that the problem was mostly under control when she moved out. By the time we got her stuff out to the trucks, half of her furniture was obviously infested.


Solution: Leave bedbug-infested furniture in storage, with a whole shiatload of some kind of desiccant. Throw out clothes being worn, have someone deliver brand new clothes, which you only touch after a shower. Wait a month for bedbugs to die.
 
2013-01-04 10:33:14 AM

Happy Hours: OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.


Yeah, Alaska is pretty much mosquito free in the summer time.
 
2013-01-04 10:44:44 AM

sirgrim: After visiting hotels or anything I leave my luggage in my car with the windows rolled up for the day. Gets about 160 in there. Hot enough to kill a baby, hot enough to kill a bed bug.


You must be a Premiere Member at Econo-Hole.
 
2013-01-04 10:52:02 AM

hammettman: The easiest way to get rid of bedbugs is to import some spiders. Oodles and oodles of farking spiders. Of course, that may present another problem when all is said and done.


Well, the spiders should die off or move on when food runs out. The problem is having something there that uses you as food. Because the harvesting never stops.
 
2013-01-04 11:00:28 AM

Happy Hours: OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Go down to a state with bayous and lots of humidity where it rarely gets down to freezing


Not sure if trolling, but just in case, this is very wrong. Try spending a summer in Alaska.
 
2013-01-04 11:03:59 AM

Felgraf: OH GOD. I just realized, could he... could he have also infested the planes he was traveling on? Or the luggage of the other passengers?


Yes, it's possible.
 
2013-01-04 11:05:15 AM
Here's my advice, you dumb Arizonians:

MOVE OUT!

Also, burn everything.
 
2013-01-04 11:06:45 AM

Lando Lincoln: Happy Hours: OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Yeah, Alaska is pretty much mosquito free still cold as dead balls in the summer time.

 
2013-01-04 11:11:25 AM
Those of you recommending food-grade diatomaceous earth, is that safe to use with pets (cats) and a baby in the house?
 
2013-01-04 11:17:05 AM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


You don't buy ten couches.  You just pick up the bedbug-infested couches that other people have left at the curb.
 
2013-01-04 11:20:09 AM
www.greatdreams.com
 
2013-01-04 11:50:12 AM

ZeroCorpse: Here's my advice, you dumb Arizonians:

MOVE OUT!

Also, burn everything.


Here's the problem with just moving out: who wants to take the risk of a new tenant who just moved out of a bedbug infested apartment? I considered moving when I had to have my apartment "preventative" treated in September (since I had to pack anyway) and when I found out on Wed that I have to have it done again (ie have to pack again). Every landlord/management company I talked to said they wouldn't rent to anyone coming from a building with bedbugs, even though my apartment doesn't have them.
 
2013-01-04 11:52:00 AM

patentguy: havana_joe:

They cannot jump, you're thinking of fleas... However, bedbugs have been known to crawl up walls and onto the ceiling and then drop onto the bed...

You're thinking of koalas.


You're thinking of spider monkeys.
 
2013-01-04 11:58:16 AM
Why the hell did I read this thread during my lunch break?

Used the bedbugregistry website someone linked. My hotel for next week has a report from four months ago. :/
 
2013-01-04 12:08:22 PM

Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?


I'm assuming the quality of the couches probably had something to do with the bedbugs.
 
2013-01-04 12:10:16 PM
Burn your possessions and run away to start a new life. It's the only way.
 
2013-01-04 12:20:20 PM

hammettman: The easiest way to get rid of bedbugs is to import some spiders. Oodles and oodles of farking spiders. Of course, that may present another problem when all is said and done.


but you could then get lizards to eat the spiders, and then cats to eat the lizards...
 
2013-01-04 12:23:59 PM
My daughter, the teenage sleepover queen of NJ, brought some home from a friend's house. Or at least I think they were bedbugs. She was getting tracks of bug bites along her legs and arms and they were getting inflamed. We threw out her mattress and box spring and sprayed every crevice in her bedroom and furniture with permethrin spray. And bagged everythng and ran it through the drier. By sheer coincidence we were scheduled to get the carpet in her bedroom replaced with hardwood a week or so later. So, once that was down I sprayed everything again. And one or two more times after that. This was 1 1/2 years ago and it seems to have worked (crosses fingers).

By the way, if you tell the mattress saleman you're buying a new bed because of bedbugs they probably won't dispose of the old mattress for you. And their delivery men might not bring the new mattress in.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-01-04 12:29:05 PM

sithon: DDT, accept no substitutes.


Or Chlordane. That will get the job done.
 
2013-01-04 12:32:01 PM
Some are fine with cold and some are fine with heat but I don't think any are fine with both high and low temps.
I put a bed bug in a jar and it was alive a month later.  I put two in a jar and one ate the other and lived for months.
 
2013-01-04 12:35:43 PM
A single female will eat once every few days.  A single bug will bite in rows since people move when they get bit and the bug stops and moves a bit and starts again. I think the males don't bite humans.

web.abnormal.com
 
2013-01-04 12:35:47 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: cretinbob: farking sanitation, how does it work?

Not at all on bedbugs is how it works.  These people do not have infestations because they lack cleanliness.  These motherfarkers can be as thin as a sheet of paper and can hide anywhere.  In electrical outlets, folds of any kind of furniture, behind paintings or pictures, in drawers or wardrobes, in shoes, behind baseboards, in thermostats...practically anywhere.

Pest control is near farking useless as they have become more and more resistant to sprays.  About the only thing you can do is drown them, burn them or dry them out.  They are FAR worse than lice or any other pest I can think of.

Took two years to get rid of them when we had them.  At least six visits from pest control, washing everything we owned.

That accomplished nothing. I too got rid of couches.  Three of them.  Got rid of box springs and mattresses.

Finally dried the bastards out by putting diatamaceous earth powder on practically everything.  That shiat is like tiny little razorblades to them.  Cuts them up and dries them out.


Same here. We had/have a very clean place but brought those little bastards back from the Westin in Chicago. In the end we had to throw out a mattress box and spring, a couch, a love seat and multiple other pieces of furniture. Had to wash every single piece of clothing, bedding, towels and related items on hot. The furniture we did save was rescued by placing them in super large contractor trash bags and parking my SUV on the top level of the parking garage at my work in the summer sun. We had to sit on folding camping chairs and sleep on an air mattress for almost 3 months until we were sure the little bastards are gone.

Cost us a couple thousand dollars and tons of hassles.

Since then my first move when checking into a hotel is to roll all my luggage into the bathroom and do a complete check of the room for telltale signs of bed bugs. Actually walked out of a nice, new Hampton Inn in Orlando about a year ago when I found bedbug signs along the piping of the mattress.
 
2013-01-04 12:38:26 PM

bigev007: Uniquely Common: Itchy just reading about this. I get swarmed by misquotes, fleas, chiggers every summer out hiking (with bug repellant on) ... I would literally die from blood loss if bedbugs ever infested my house.


/tastes oh so good

Mosquitoes and flies and the like love me. I'll have a dozen mosquito bites when my GF hasn't even seen one. We had bed bugs in a hotel we stayed at in Ottawa (an expensive one), and our apartment briefly (not related). She was bitten all over, I didn't have a single bite. So you and I may be mosquito bait, but if that makes me bed bug bane, I can live with that.

/we killed them with raid on the bed and diowhatsit earth everywhere.


Oh I hope that's true, it would be so nice not to want to be devoured by at least one thing in nature. Few months back we had a family gathering, everyone was standing outside commenting on how nice it was and no bug meanwhile I already had 10 bites. Family has now dubbed mosquitoes my "groupies," they all want a piece of me!
 
2013-01-04 12:43:29 PM

frizzantik: bed bug registries


I didn't know such a thing existed. Thanks!
 
2013-01-04 12:54:30 PM

Farxist Marxist: Farkin' frankenbugs. I'm moving to Australia, where the beasts kill you somewhat quickly ('cept those blue-ringed octopus, in which case it's not quick enough) rather than some bug that bleeds you white, won't get off the sofa, and can hide in the remote control.


Sounds like my ex husband.
 
2013-01-04 12:57:50 PM

sirgrim: After visiting hotels or anything I leave my luggage in my car with the windows rolled up for the day. Gets about 160 in there. Hot enough to kill a baby, hot enough to kill a bed bug.


I too am worried about babies getting into my luggage.
 
2013-01-04 01:01:26 PM

martid4: sirgrim: After visiting hotels or anything I leave my luggage in my car with the windows rolled up for the day. Gets about 160 in there. Hot enough to kill a baby, hot enough to kill a bed bug.

You must be a Premiere Member at Econo-Hole.


That popular conception is wrong. Some best hotels in New York City and Washington DC have also been the biggest bed bug spreaders. Like I said before, I'm 99.9% we brought our bedbugs home from the Westin in Chicago: not exactly the Econo-Hole.
 
2013-01-04 01:13:47 PM

steve_wmn: By the way, if you tell the mattress saleman you're buying a new bed because of bedbugs they probably won't dispose of the old mattress for you. And their delivery men might not bring the new mattress in.


And if you don't don't tell the mattress salesperson you're buying a new bed because of bedbugs, the delivery guy will put the bedbug infested mattress in the truck along with his other deliveries, risking contamination.

Or, you could just leave the old mattress by your curb. Some places like NYC will require you to seal it in a bag, but that's the price we pay for civilization.
 
2013-01-04 01:19:09 PM
This reminds me of the old house we bought many years ago. The attic had hardwood floors and its own heating system. In the process of remodeling the house, I refinished the hardwood, to help it dry, I turned the heat up to 85 F. This caused every fly egg up there to hatch, As the flies hatched, the noxious fumes from the floor finish killed them. I counted 85 flies stuck to the floor when I cleaned up. It was like a scene from Amityville Horror. Have not seen a single fly up there since. It was awesome.
Allow me to add, CSB.
 
2013-01-04 01:24:21 PM

The_Sponge: hammettman: The easiest way to get rid of bedbugs is to import some spiders. Oodles and oodles of farking spiders. Of course, that may present another problem when all is said and done.

We're talking about Arizona....do you really want black widows and tarantulas all over your apartment?  And then you have to bring in a bunch of gila monsters to get rid of the spiders, and then gorillas to get rid of the gila monsters.


Send the gorillas to Flagstaff in the winter. They'll freeze to death.
 
2013-01-04 01:32:05 PM

doofusgumby: TommyymmoT: Just a thought.
 What if you sealed the house the same way they do when it's bug bombed, or fumigated, and used Halon (which removes all the oxygen in the room, and is often used for fire suppression in sensitive areas like computer rooms, and archives) instead?
There would be no residue, and no poisons. You wouldn't even have to remove the food.

Halon is a severe greenhouse gas.


Good. Crank up the halon factories and make the little farkers extinct. Only problem is some asshat would whine about them becoming extinct and sue to get them protected under the endangered species act. Then it would be illegal to do anything to kill them.
 
2013-01-04 01:35:24 PM

CheetahOlivetti: apoptotic: ladyfortuna: People have been biatching about the snow. I say bring on the winter low temps. Freeze these farkers out (along with a host of other invasive bastards)

Considering it's been -20C or lower here for most of the last two months and I have to have my apartment prevention treated for the second time on Monday because the apartment above mine has bedbugs, I suspect cold temperatures outdoors don't play much of a role in whether you have bedbugs indoors.

Bedbugs don't mind cold weather. But temps over 120 or so will kill them. That's why one of the most effective treatments is to move everyone out, seal the building, and then heatblast it for several hours. Works better than pesticide.


That solves it then. Next summer let all the people in that complex move out and turn off the air conditioners in the apartments and fire up the heaters just to be sure.
 
2013-01-04 01:40:22 PM
insidiousclothing.com
 
2013-01-04 01:48:34 PM
These stories are going to give me nightmares. Makes the crap I had to go through with my roomates flea ridden cat seem tame.
 
2013-01-04 01:49:08 PM

ZeroCorpse: Lando Lincoln: Happy Hours: OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Yeah, Alaska is pretty much mosquito free still cold as dead balls in the summer time.


I'm not sure what part of Alaska you're referring to, but almost every summer for the past ten years the interior has been (literally) on fire because it's that farking hot. Anecdote from 2009. I know that's not Arizona hot, but it's certainly not cold as dead balls. Especially since no houses here are built with air conditioning.

Winters on the other hand...
 
2013-01-04 01:59:11 PM

TheBystanderEffect: camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...

Yeah, because it's every girl's dream to go live in Utah with some internet creeper who saw her in a news report about her bedbug issue.


Well that escalated quickly.

*insert Pulp Fiction reference about sarcasm fluency as opposed to English fluency here*
 
2013-01-04 02:08:56 PM

Happy Hours: camaroash: inclemency: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Yet.

-9F right now and just getting started with the cold months.
Scorching summers.
Incredibly dry year-round.
It's not a hospitable environment. They can't establish themselves.

Sure about that? Crawling all over Salt Lake

Mosquitoes, on the other hand...

OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Go down to a state with bayous and lots of humidity where it rarely gets down to freezing


Down but not out. There are, to put it mildly, a lot of wetlands areas on the Wasatch Front, especially at the bird refuge, and in Cache Valley. All you need is stagnant water. Droughts are really the only thing that nips the season in the bud. Well, that and the Starlings.

I'm sure it's way worse in the type of places you mentioned. What we deal with here is mostly due to a lack of constant natural predators.

Brine flies are a whole other deal. We do have an army (no joke) of natural predators for those:
Link (ksl.com report and video)
 
2013-01-04 02:15:13 PM

IKillBugs: camaroash: I'd give the daughter a place to live.

No bedbugs in Utah.

Link

You were saying?


Yes. Inn, Hotel, Motel, Youth Hostel. See a pattern here? Travelers bring them in with them. They are not endemic to the area. I strongly doubt any of those are persistent infestations.
 
2013-01-04 02:15:45 PM

screwzloos: I'm not sure what part of Alaska you're referring to, but almost every summer for the past ten years the interior has been (literally) on fire because it's that farking hot.


I haven't visited Alaska but I have been to Yellowknife in the summer. It does indeed get hot up there, thanks to having the sun shining for up to 20 hours each day.
 
2013-01-04 02:34:15 PM

lackadaisicalfreakshow: Those of you recommending food-grade diatomaceous earth, is that safe to use with pets (cats) and a baby in the house?



Food grade DE is safe to use with pets, but I would suggest caution with a baby. It causes severe resparatory and eye irritation if you don't use a mask and goggles while applying it due to how fine the powder is. When dosing pets the best method is to dump some into a sock and pat down the pet with it, being sure to work it down into the fur and avoiding the eyes and nose.
Had a nasty flea problem a couple years ago, and covering everything in DE was the only way I could beat them (this included having to coat the inside of my shoes, as well as coating any pair of socks I wore, which leads to a high level of skin irritation.) DO NOT use pool grade DE, as it's harmful to pets and humans.

/vomited a little while RTFA
 
2013-01-04 04:01:21 PM
I brought four of them into my apartment in a nice piece of used furniture. They made my life a living Hell for half a year.

Some mistakes were made, but lessons were learned.

* Bedbugs are not known to carry any diseases, although Chagas might be an exception.
* Bedbugs drink blood. They eat nothing else. Filth and dirt do not attract bedbugs, unlike cockroaches, which eat pretty much anything that people or animals eat.
* Bedbugs can hide in tiny cracks, thinner than you can cram a dime or a piece of cardboard into.
* People often panic when they find bedbug bites and realize they have an infestation. You should avoid giving away, selling, or disposing of furniture, clothing, etc. Instead you should work to contain and destry the infestation.
* Break up furniture or clearly mark items that you do put out for the garbage man.
* Clothing which can be washed in very hot water can be kept. You should wash it in hot water, possibly with bleach, vinegar or borax added. Dry it in a hot drier if possible, or hang it out on a clothes line. Put it in air-tight sealed plastic bags.
* Bedbugs can survive for as much as year, maybe two, without food. They will actually live longer if they don't bite. Items such as electronics, which can not be cleaning can be vacuumed. Dispose of the bags. If you can, seal them hermetically in bags or boxes and put the boxes away for two years. You do not have to lose all your precious belongings.
* Mostly you should concentrate on the area that is likely to be infected. Try to close it off so the bedbugs do not wander. Do not move items into or out of the area around an infested piece of furniture or an infested room. Try to contain and destroy section by section, like a government fighting a guerilla insurgency.
* If an infestation is very small (you will know by the number of bites and the number of bedbugs which you will see--which is probably none, since they normally only come out when they detect a sleeping victim--you might be able to eliminate them slowly through various techniques including careful use of bedbug-ready pesticides, diatomacious earth, dessicants, etc. Otherwise you or your landlord may need to pay for professionals to do your home, posssibly repeatedly.
* Bedbugs can be killed by extreme heat or cold but so can you. You can use your oven or freezer to treat some articles that are oven or freezer safe. It may take several days in a very cold freezer or several hours of heat to kill them. Be careful what you treat and how.
 
2013-01-04 06:07:17 PM

Dinjiin: Kingly Weevil: My real question here is, How the f*ck do you afford ten couches before you can afford to leave your f*cking apartment?

Friends, family, thrift stores, Craigslist, curbside.


All of which are great ways to *get* bedbugs. Especially curbside -- why did the previous owner throw it out?
 
2013-01-05 10:16:16 AM
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but nicotine kills bed bugs real nicely. Take up smoking....or just buy some liquid nicotine and spray that shiat everywhere.
 
2013-01-05 01:46:42 PM
Isn't diversity wonderful?
 
2013-01-06 09:25:46 AM

kim jong-un: Pathman: Arumat: If ever there was an insect species deserving of extinction, it'd be those little bastards. Fleas are a close second.

all of the reasons you think they deserve to be extinct are pretty much the reasons why nature and biology thinks the exact opposite.

Lol wut?

Do tell us what nature thinks.


that a species which can adapt and evolve will generally be more successful than one that can not.
Hopefully it was the anthropomorphization and not the science that confused you.
;-p
 
2013-01-06 09:28:40 AM

Lando Lincoln: Happy Hours: OTOH, I've only visited Utah in winter, but I can't imagine you have a mosquito problem. After all, you just mentioned it was -9F and there's nothing like a few good freezes to help keep the mosquito population down.

Yeah, Alaska is pretty much mosquito free in the summer time.


haha seriously. i'm pretty sure the mosquito is Alaska's state bird
 
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