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2013-01-03 08:09:13 PM

FTFA: "I don't want to call Matt Damon a liar but he's a liar" McAleer said.


memecrunch.com
 
2013-01-03 08:11:10 PM
I heard he was a F.A.G., but this is the first I've heard of him being a liar.
 
2013-01-03 08:43:32 PM
Since I was told it was OK to put torture into a movie as a major plot point, despite no evidence that it played any part, since it's "just a movie," I'm sure that no one will have a problem with this.
 
2013-01-03 09:11:56 PM
The same Matt Damon who stars in countless films killing people and then stared in a commercial to end gun violence? Yeah, his opinion is totally worth listening to.


/People call NG cleaner, I guess dumping toxins into watersheds is cleaner.
 
2013-01-03 09:17:08 PM

duffblue: The same Matt Damon who stars in countless films killing people and then stared in a commercial to end gun violence? Yeah, his opinion is totally worth listening to.

/People call NG cleaner, I guess dumping toxins into watersheds is cleaner.


Yeah, because the companies engaged in fracking are telling the truth about the effects of fracking.
 
2013-01-03 09:22:55 PM
Corporations can do no wrong I don't know where you're getting your information from.
 
2013-01-03 09:34:30 PM
Ah, it's about his anti-fracking film that is funded by Gulf Arab petrodollars. Nothing to see here.
 
2013-01-03 09:34:44 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Since I was told it was OK to put torture into a movie as a major plot point, despite no evidence that it played any part, since it's "just a movie," I'm sure that no one will have a problem with this.


Oh the torture happened, the issue is that the movie somewhat alludes to it leading to actionable intelligence, something government officials strenuously deny.
 
2013-01-03 09:36:36 PM
This stuff can get into the water supply naturally," McAleer said. "In America hundreds of years ago, native Americans named three different locations 'Burning Springs.' Quite simply, this is because of the naturally occurring gases, like methane, that are found beneath the earth's surface and that can rise to the surface with water.

That's correct, however that isn't the point. The point is that fracking is increasing the occurrence of shiat getting in the water to new levels. As in from natural methane leeching into the water, to you can stick your garden hose in your lawn mower to top the gas tank off.
 
2013-01-03 09:42:28 PM

The Bestest: Lionel Mandrake: Since I was told it was OK to put torture into a movie as a major plot point, despite no evidence that it played any part, since it's "just a movie," I'm sure that no one will have a problem with this.

Oh the torture happened, the issue is that the movie somewhat alludes to it leading to actionable intelligence, something government officials strenuously deny.


So, the torture was just for the hell of it?
 
2013-01-03 09:43:20 PM

ParallelUniverseParking: FTFA: "I don't want to call Matt Damon a liar but he's a liar" McAleer said.

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Dammit, I was gonna do that.
 
2013-01-03 09:43:39 PM
He should have done it in his Matthew McConaughey impersonation. I trust Southern, syrupy sweetness.
 
2013-01-03 09:46:52 PM
Next I expect some liberal "expert" will claim that Hackers wasn't a farking documentary.
 
2013-01-03 09:46:56 PM
Here we go again, another environmental movie based on pseudo science trying to shut down a vital resource through public opinion and no real facts.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-01-03 09:47:13 PM
Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?

Though, that said, I kinda doubt this film is anything but a useless political hit piece, there are basically two kinds of documentaries and it doesn't really strike me as one in the well-researched and informative category.

duffblue: Corporations can do no wrong I don't know where you're getting your information from.


Eh, they've been mostly honest, though they've downplayed some quality control issues that do really call for some government oversight. Hydraulic fracturing isn't exactly rocket science after all, even explaining it to a layman isn't terribly difficult if said layman actually has some interest in learning.

The main problem is you've got the nutjob conspiracy theorists clogging up the avenues of information, because the media has discovered that having a discussion between an industry dude who thinks the current containment practices are sufficient and another dude that agrees but don't think the actual execution of the containment practices is consistent with theory (the actual debate) isn't half as much fun as a discussion between an industry rep who thinks their procedures are safe and a moron who thinks that contamination can magically teleport across several geological layers into the water table and that you can fuel your lawn mower form a garden hose if you're near a fracking operation (not the actual debate).

It's just a matter of what sells more commercial slots, like how you'll never hear a discussion between two politicians presenting competing tax amendments, it's always a discussion between one guy with a tax amendment and one guy who thinks old people should be put on ice floes and pushed off into the ocean because god told him so in his alphabet soup.
 
2013-01-03 09:52:10 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?

Promised Land is directed by Gus Van Sant based on a screenplay by Matt Damon and John Krasinski


Yep.
 
2013-01-03 09:52:34 PM
FTFA: "This stuff can get into the water supply naturally," McAleer said. "In America hundreds of years ago, native Americans named three different locations 'Burning Springs.

How many are near current fracking sites?

/ lol conservative logic lol
 
2013-01-03 09:53:26 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?


He wrote it...
 
2013-01-03 09:53:46 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?


Damon co-wrote the script, so he's got a little input over its overall message.
 
2013-01-03 09:54:25 PM
Don't know about this particular case, but in other instances (can't find the cite offhand), even in areas where burning water has been a problem, researchers have been able to analyze the flammable gases and determine that they were released by fracking (originating much deeper underground and with different composition) than naturally occurring seepage.

Hell, we know that fracking can cause small, localized earthquakes, too. We may need the gas, but let's not kid ourselves about potential adverse effects.
 
2013-01-03 09:55:35 PM

Jim_Callahan: the nutjob conspiracy theorists clogging up the avenues of information, because the media has discovered that having a discussion between an industry dude who thinks the current containment practices are sufficient and another dude that agrees but don't think the actual execution of the containment practices is consistent with theory (the actual debate)


Ummm, yeah, "the actual debate" is between people who support fracking and others who support fracking.

Both sides are bad, so drill, baby, drill!
 
2013-01-03 09:55:53 PM
I trust the fracking companies about as much as I trust cigarette companies
 
2013-01-03 09:56:25 PM
Pennsylvania had to tell them to stop dumping fracking fluid in the water supplies. I can't stand Matt Damon on most days but the other side are your stereotypical evil corporations.
 
2013-01-03 09:57:12 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?

Though, that said, I kinda doubt this film is anything but a useless political hit piece, there are basically two kinds of documentaries and it doesn't really strike me as one in the well-researched and informative category.

duffblue: Corporations can do no wrong I don't know where you're getting your information from.

Eh, they've been mostly honest, though they've downplayed some quality control issues that do really call for some government oversight. Hydraulic fracturing isn't exactly rocket science after all, even explaining it to a layman isn't terribly difficult if said layman actually has some interest in learning.

The main problem is you've got the nutjob conspiracy theorists clogging up the avenues of information, because the media has discovered that having a discussion between an industry dude who thinks the current containment practices are sufficient and another dude that agrees but don't think the actual execution of the containment practices is consistent with theory (the actual debate) isn't half as much fun as a discussion between an industry rep who thinks their procedures are safe and a moron who thinks that contamination can magically teleport across several geological layers into the water table and that you can fuel your lawn mower form a garden hose if you're near a fracking operation (not the actual debate).

It's just a matter of what sells more commercial slots, like how you'll never hear a discussion between two politicians presenting competing tax amendments, it's always a discussion between one guy with a tax amendment and one guy who thinks old people should be put on ice floes and pushed off into the ocean because god told him so in his alphabet soup.


I'm really interesting in learning do you have any links to peer reviewed journals about the health implications 5-10 years (or longer) after fraking occurs?
 
2013-01-03 09:57:16 PM

ha-ha-guy: This stuff can get into the water supply naturally," McAleer said. "In America hundreds of years ago, native Americans named three different locations 'Burning Springs.' Quite simply, this is because of the naturally occurring gases, like methane, that are found beneath the earth's surface and that can rise to the surface with water.

That's correct, however that isn't the point. The point is that fracking is increasing the occurrence of shiat getting in the water to new levels. As in from natural methane leeching into the water, to you can stick your garden hose in your lawn mower to top the gas tank off.


Yeah. It would be just as rediculous as to say, "well all animals are going to die anyway so it shouldn't be illegal for me to bash a puppy's head with a ball peen hammer."

Just because distruction happens naturally doesn't
mean we should always help it along.
 
2013-01-03 09:57:59 PM

Joelogon: Don't know about this particular case, but in other instances (can't find the cite offhand), even in areas where burning water has been a problem, researchers have been able to analyze the flammable gases and determine that they were released by fracking (originating much deeper underground and with different composition) than naturally occurring seepage.

Hell, we know that fracking can cause small, localized earthquakes, too. We may need the gas, but let's not kid ourselves about potential adverse effects.


But since most fracking is going on in Pennsylvania, I'm somewhat OK with it.
 
2013-01-03 09:58:14 PM

Joelogon: Don't know about this particular case, but in other instances (can't find the cite offhand), even in areas where burning water has been a problem, researchers have been able to analyze the flammable gases and determine that they were released by fracking (originating much deeper underground and with different composition) than naturally occurring seepage.


Derp, found one: Citing the Duke study (yes, yes, I know):

"To determine where the methane in the wells they tested came from, the researchers ran it through a molecular fingerprinting process called an isotopic analysis. Water samples furthest from gas drilling showed traces of biogenic methane-a type of methane that can naturally appear in water from biological decay. But samples taken closer to drilling had high concentrations of thermogenic methane, which comes from the same hydrocarbon layers where gas drilling is targeted. That-plus the proximity to the gas wells-told the researchers that the contamination was linked to the drilling processes. "
 
2013-01-03 09:58:43 PM
I kind of dig this phenomenon. Oil and gas companies are used to fussing with, relatively, tiny budgets. Now they have to deal with Hollywood heavyweights.
 
2013-01-03 09:58:55 PM

Brick-House: Here we go again, another environmental movie based on pseudo science trying to shut down a vital resource through public opinion and no real facts.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x500]


And, then Nixon came along and created the EPA. Complete socialism, if you ask me.
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2013-01-03 09:59:16 PM

GAT_00: duffblue: The same Matt Damon who stars in countless films killing people and then stared in a commercial to end gun violence? Yeah, his opinion is totally worth listening to.

/People call NG cleaner, I guess dumping toxins into watersheds is cleaner.

Yeah, because the companies engaged in fracking are telling the truth about the effects of fracking.


3.bp.blogspot.com
Trust me: I'm a fracker
 
2013-01-03 09:59:48 PM

duffblue: Pennsylvania had to tell them to stop dumping fracking fluid in the water supplies. I can't stand Matt Damon on most days but the other side are your stereotypical evil corporations.


That's always been illegal in PA both at a state level and a federal level. What you had were some not so on the up and up trucking companies, not the natural gas companies, dumping their loads because they didn't want to drive to the processing facilities because they were paid by the load.

They got caught and are getting prosecuted.
 
2013-01-03 10:03:10 PM

Brick-House: Here we go again, another environmental movie based on pseudo science trying to shut down a vital resource through public opinion and no real facts.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x500]


Exactly. Nuclear power is completely safe.

news.discovery.com

news.discovery.com

www.asianews.it
 
2013-01-03 10:04:39 PM

Joelogon: Hell, we know that fracking can cause small, localized earthquakes, too. We may need the gas, but let's not kid ourselves about potential adverse effects.


Fracing doesn't cause earthquakes, but it has been shown that using injection wells to pump wastewater back deep underground can cause those earthquakes.
 
2013-01-03 10:04:53 PM
We should get rid of energy altogether. It sucks.
 
2013-01-03 10:05:19 PM

djkutch: Brick-House: Here we go again, another environmental movie based on pseudo science trying to shut down a vital resource through public opinion and no real facts.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x500]

And, then Nixon came along and created the EPA. Complete socialism, if you ask me.


There's a red moon rising on the Cuyahoga River rolling into Cleveland to the lake.
 
2013-01-03 10:12:18 PM

The Muthaship: We should get rid of energy altogether. It sucks.


I'm going to have to repossess the electrons you used to post that, buddy.
 
2013-01-03 10:15:42 PM
"This stuff can get into the water supply naturally," McAleer said. "In America hundreds of years ago, native Americans named three different locations 'Burning Springs.' Quite simply, this is because of the naturally occurring gases, like methane, that are found beneath the earth's surface and that can rise to the surface with water. This pre-dates fracking and, in fact, there is no evidence that suggests that fracking has led to an increase in this phenomenon."

And methane concentrations of 17x higher than normal within 1km of gas wells is just coincidence? I mean, I know Duke sucks, but surely they didn't make up the peer-reviewed data.
 
2013-01-03 10:15:43 PM

Troy McClure: Fracing doesn't cause earthquakes, but it has been shown that using injection wells to pump wastewater back deep underground can cause those earthquakes.


Interesting, though a quick search suggests that while wastewater injection is the vast majority of the earthquake problem (and thanks for that), it's not quite so clear cut:

A year ago, I would have told you that fracking never caused earthquakes. However, in the last year there have three well-documented earthquakes that occurred during the frack job and were probably related to fracking. They were all small earthquakes - of a magnitude of 2 or 3 - and, considering, that there are millions of frack jobs, fracking-related earthquakes are so rare.

When it comes to injection, I probably only know of tens of (injection wells) them that have caused earthquakes. So from one point of view they're not a problem because they're rare. But injection causes earthquakes more often than does fracking. Fracking earthquakes are extraordinarily rare.
 
2013-01-03 10:17:31 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?


I believe he was one of the writers wasn't he?
 
2013-01-03 10:19:40 PM

max_pooper: djkutch: Brick-House: Here we go again, another environmental movie based on pseudo science trying to shut down a vital resource through public opinion and no real facts.

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 500x500]

And, then Nixon came along and created the EPA. Complete socialism, if you ask me.

There's a red moon rising on the Cuyahoga River rolling into Cleveland to the lake.


How is that Randy brings a tear to the eye after all these years?

Magic.
 
2013-01-03 10:22:00 PM

CujoQuarrel: Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?


I believe he was one of the writers wasn't he?


Yes. I'm guessing someone here is unaware that Matt Damon once won an Oscar for... Wait for it... WRITING (co-writing) an original screenplay.
 
2013-01-03 10:23:25 PM
He's a lib. Of course he's a fracking liar.
 
2013-01-03 10:23:52 PM
Lighting your tap water on fire is a cool party trick.
 
2013-01-03 10:29:31 PM

Nabb1: CujoQuarrel: Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?


I believe he was one of the writers wasn't he?

Yes. I'm guessing someone here is unaware that Matt Damon once won an Oscar for... Wait for it... WRITING (co-writing) an original screenplay.


After seeing Gone Baby Gone, The Town, and Argo, I'm suspicious as to how much actual writing Damon did to win that Oscar.

And to think, during the promotion for that movie, everyone thought Affleck was the stupid one.
 
2013-01-03 10:42:22 PM
www.naderlibrary.com
 
2013-01-03 10:50:57 PM
Well the pro-fracking guy is obviously not biased or anything.
 
2013-01-03 10:59:38 PM
Phelim McAleer is launching a one-man campaign to call Damon out about the film.

Aaaaaand gladly give Damon free publicity too, evidently.
 
2013-01-03 11:05:03 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?

Though, that said, I kinda doubt this film is anything but a useless political hit piece, there are basically two kinds of documentaries and it doesn't really strike me as one in the well-researched and informative category.

duffblue: Corporations can do no wrong I don't know where you're getting your information from.

Eh, they've been mostly honest, though they've downplayed some quality control issues that do really call for some government oversight. Hydraulic fracturing isn't exactly rocket science after all, even explaining it to a layman isn't terribly difficult if said layman actually has some interest in learning.

The main problem is you've got the nutjob conspiracy theorists clogging up the avenues of information, because the media has discovered that having a discussion between an industry dude who thinks the current containment practices are sufficient and another dude that agrees but don't think the actual execution of the containment practices is consistent with theory (the actual debate) isn't half as much fun as a discussion between an industry rep who thinks their procedures are safe and a moron who thinks that contamination can magically teleport across several geological layers into the water table and that you can fuel your lawn mower form a garden hose if you're near a fracking operation (not the actual debate).

It's just a matter of what sells more commercial slots, like how you'll never hear a discussion between two politicians presenting competing tax amendments, it's always a discussion between one guy with a tax amendment and one guy who thinks old people should be put on ice floes and pushed off into the ocean because god told him so in his alphabet soup.


Well the main problem is non disclosure of fracking fluids and effluents.
 
2013-01-03 11:05:09 PM

Jim_Callahan: Wait, we're blaming the actor for the content of a film now?

Though, that said, I kinda doubt this film is anything but a useless political hit piece, there are basically two kinds of documentaries and it doesn't really strike me as one in the well-researched and informative category.

duffblue: Corporations can do no wrong I don't know where you're getting your information from.

Eh, they've been mostly honest, though they've downplayed some quality control issues that do really call for some government oversight. Hydraulic fracturing isn't exactly rocket science after all, even explaining it to a layman isn't terribly difficult if said layman actually has some interest in learning.

The main problem is you've got the nutjob conspiracy theorists clogging up the avenues of information, because the media has discovered that having a discussion between an industry dude who thinks the current containment practices are sufficient and another dude that agrees but don't think the actual execution of the containment practices is consistent with theory (the actual debate) isn't half as much fun as a discussion between an industry rep who thinks their procedures are safe and a moron who thinks that contamination can magically teleport across several geological layers into the water table and that you can fuel your lawn mower form a garden hose if you're near a fracking operation (not the actual debate).

It's just a matter of what sells more commercial slots, like how you'll never hear a discussion between two politicians presenting competing tax amendments, it's always a discussion between one guy with a tax amendment and one guy who thinks old people should be put on ice floes and pushed off into the ocean because god told him so in his alphabet soup.


Wow.  That's a whole lot of paragraphs of crap.  The base issue is the water that we are consuming.  What exactly don't you understand about that?
You're three tangents away hunting down conspirators.  Is your water farking safe?  You're so farked in your own political agenda you can't see your ass save the trees.
 
2013-01-03 11:06:22 PM
Light Your Water

/subby is a fracking idiot
 
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