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(Daily Mail)   The wheels on the house go round and round, round and round, round and round   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 26
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2013-01-03 10:06:43 PM  
3 votes:
Enough of these low hanging fruit like articles! I hereby propose a ban on all Daily Fail articles for the next seven days!
2013-01-03 10:21:14 PM  
2 votes:
Also I'd have to say, if you're going to live in it full time, I feel like a fifth wheel might be the way to go. As you can drop the vehicle and go do things with just the pickup at a higher MPG. My retired parents spend October through April bumming around the south and south west with a pickup and fifth wheel. They're down by Lake Meade right now, I just got Hoover Dam pictures emailed in. They also left the RV part of the rig at the camp ground and drove into Vegas for two days. Much easier to park a 4x4 super duty pickup at the Aria Hotel for a night than an entire RV or bus.
2013-01-03 10:10:47 PM  
2 votes:
I'm pretty sure that I could build something much like that, without the help of CAD, that would be a bit more livable, potentially run better, but maybe cost a tad bit more to operate. It'd have actual beds, a real toilet (one that flushes into a nasty water tank), and a useful kitchen. If you're really going to try this, maybe plan better?

Note - if they had a gym membership, they could work out every day and shower there. One of their problems - solved. Hell, they could even drop the deuce there. Even more problems solved.
2013-01-04 12:16:55 AM  
1 votes:
ha-ha-guy:

If some day you see some old geezer in a maize and blue converted into an RV tooling around, you'll know Ha-ha-guy's gone insane and done i.
farm7.staticflickr.com
Gone and done i.
2013-01-04 12:13:58 AM  
1 votes:

harlock: School busses turn out to be a very poor choice for RV conversions if you plan to travel at all. They are not designed for freeway use, they are designed for low speed suburb travel. They are terrible on gas mileage and are maintenance pigs, and when they do break their large engines are costly to fix.


One of my old teachers said he was on a consulting gigs for a city in southern California, The school buses they bought had cracks in the frame because the city had speed bumps and the buses they bought weren't spec'd for that. So they had to reinforce the frames. Which lead to his comment that buses are designed for specific service. If you try to operate them outside that, they break down. A school bus designed to carry kids a few miles on city streets, may over heat and die if you try to take it over the mountains on a hot day.

One Hippie read about starts with old county owned surplus water trucks. Old, low mileage, and designed to carry a lot more weight than you're ever going to put on it.
2013-01-04 12:11:07 AM  
1 votes:

jtown: Why do people keep putting so much effort into re-inventing things that already exist? This couple has built a motorhome...except it doesn't work as well. Same with the "tiny house" people and their travel trailers. Our recent, ongoing economic plunge has flooded the market with gently used RVs at a fraction of their original price. Units that originally sold for $100k can be found (in good shape) for $25k. And they've got all those luxuries like "plumbing" and "showers" built in. And slide-outs so you can stretch out your arms without hitting the sides. And ceilings high enough to stand up straight. Generators to provide more power when you need it. Air conditioning. Heat. Stove. Oven. Microwave. Drivetrain made within the last decade. Little things.

ha-ha-guy: Also I'd have to say, if you're going to live in it full time, I feel like a fifth wheel might be the way to go. As you can drop the vehicle and go do things with just the pickup at a higher MPG. My retired parents spend October through April bumming around the south and south west with a pickup and fifth wheel. They're down by Lake Meade right now, I just got Hoover Dam pictures emailed in. They also left the RV part of the rig at the camp ground and drove into Vegas for two days. Much easier to park a 4x4 super duty pickup at the Aria Hotel for a night than an entire RV or bus.

Actually, a truck powerful enough to pull a 35+ foot 5th wheel is going to get pretty crappy mileage even without the load. Like 12ish. And they're still pretty beastly to handle in a parking structure. Even without the trailer, the truck's still 20' long, 8' wide, and weighs thousands of pounds. I looked into it a couple years back and concluded that a big class A pulling a little car is a better combo for me. But that's what works for me and I couldn't find anything under 35' that I really liked. A smaller 5th wheel could be pulled by a 250/2500 series truck with a smaller engine and better mileage.


An F250 or 350 can pull a 35' easy. Get a stroker and unloaded you can see 20 MPG pretty easily if you dont drive like an idiot.

As for parking, just expect to back into the spot furthest from the door.
2013-01-03 11:52:39 PM  
1 votes:
Why do people keep putting so much effort into re-inventing things that already exist? This couple has built a motorhome...except it doesn't work as well. Same with the "tiny house" people and their travel trailers. Our recent, ongoing economic plunge has flooded the market with gently used RVs at a fraction of their original price. Units that originally sold for $100k can be found (in good shape) for $25k. And they've got all those luxuries like "plumbing" and "showers" built in. And slide-outs so you can stretch out your arms without hitting the sides. And ceilings high enough to stand up straight. Generators to provide more power when you need it. Air conditioning. Heat. Stove. Oven. Microwave. Drivetrain made within the last decade. Little things.

ha-ha-guy: Also I'd have to say, if you're going to live in it full time, I feel like a fifth wheel might be the way to go. As you can drop the vehicle and go do things with just the pickup at a higher MPG. My retired parents spend October through April bumming around the south and south west with a pickup and fifth wheel. They're down by Lake Meade right now, I just got Hoover Dam pictures emailed in. They also left the RV part of the rig at the camp ground and drove into Vegas for two days. Much easier to park a 4x4 super duty pickup at the Aria Hotel for a night than an entire RV or bus.


Actually, a truck powerful enough to pull a 35+ foot 5th wheel is going to get pretty crappy mileage even without the load. Like 12ish. And they're still pretty beastly to handle in a parking structure. Even without the trailer, the truck's still 20' long, 8' wide, and weighs thousands of pounds. I looked into it a couple years back and concluded that a big class A pulling a little car is a better combo for me. But that's what works for me and I couldn't find anything under 35' that I really liked. A smaller 5th wheel could be pulled by a 250/2500 series truck with a smaller engine and better mileage.
2013-01-03 11:43:03 PM  
1 votes:
My takeaways:

1. Giga-hipster alert
2. I can't blame them for living to want rent-free in San Fran.
3. Reiterate thread's points about school buses being low speed urban cruisers with costly maintenance
4.

UsikFark: They presumably have the money and I wish them luck. I will admit I wish I had joined the 4-foot high club back in my day...


They're young, intelligent, giga-hipsters who decided it makes sense to live in a bus and shower every couple of days. I'd venture that no, they don't have money; quite the opposite. I don't think I'd be crazy to assume that between them they've got an easy 6 figures of education debt staring them in the face. They know drafting though- hopefully they're engineers and not interior designers.
5. Duel/dualx2
6. I get that they bought the sbus for the steel frame and not fiberboard/styrofoam that an RV would be in their price range, but I'd actually be impressed if this were an article about how they started out by converting the bus to run electric on the solar panels, then realized they had juice to spare, so why not live in it? This, as it is, really smells more like a "because I can, fark you mom!" plan. All of their supposed well thought out gains are being negated by some other stupid bullshiat they're doing/have done.
7. Some chicks do well with short hair. This one does not.

That's all I can think of for now.
2013-01-03 11:04:40 PM  
1 votes:
I have lived in a 5th wheel for about 6 months now...I am parked on the banks of the Colorado river.

My dog thinks it's the best thing since beef coated doggy cookies.

Their bus is a piece of shiat...autocad? really?

Looks like they cut up free furniture from Sal's.
2013-01-03 10:53:01 PM  
1 votes:

KrispyKritter: washing dishes with vinegar = confusion. water is cheaper and there is waste to contend with either way. and all plates will taste like vinegar, affecting the meal. the bus must smell like me. a douche.


I am guessing they dilute the vinegar with water and then rinse the dishes off with just water. And vinegar is much less of an issue to dispose of  than soapy water would be.

Still doesnt sound like fun.
2013-01-03 10:51:28 PM  
1 votes:
School busses turn out to be a very poor choice for RV conversions if you plan to travel at all. They are not designed for freeway use, they are designed for low speed suburb travel. They are terrible on gas mileage and are maintenance pigs, and when they do break their large engines are costly to fix.

For all their work towards making themselves energy efficient, it all goes out the window the moment they start that thing up. Once a year I see the hippie busses full of dreadlocks come through town on the way to Burning Guy and I have to chuckle. They are slowly becoming a caricature of themselves. But to each his own.

A better bet, as another commenter said, is a 5th wheel or travel trailer pulled by a modern turbodiesel. And that setup can cost a lot less than you'd imagine - I got into my setup for about $23K which includes a great F250 TD and the trailer, both used but in great shape.
2013-01-03 10:50:48 PM  
1 votes:
What the view from a school bus with duel purpose may look like...

farm9.staticflickr.com
2013-01-03 10:50:19 PM  
1 votes:
For $12000, you could pick up a decent used RV that's much better designed.
2013-01-03 10:50:13 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: UsikFark: Before: The couple bought a used school bus for $3000, painted it blue and white, gutted the inside and drafted autoCAD plans to design every detail of their new home.

They presumably have the money and I wish them luck. I will admit I wish I had joined the 4-foot high club back in my day...

AutoCAD is meh. It's better than MicroStation but nowhere near as good as Revit. Revit gives me happy boners


`I am guessing when they said "autocad" they just meant "generic computer drafting program." I use a combination of a weird program called Chief Architect and AutoCAD. So you like Revit? Has it gotten any easier to learn? I know Im probably going to have to learn it eventually.....
2013-01-03 10:46:13 PM  
1 votes:
teeny: "mr. teeny likes AutoCAD and SolidWorks. He only has a little experience with Revit, though."

I like DraftSight because it's free... But I mostly use my PCB package for all my 2D drafting needs. No boners though.
2013-01-03 10:44:17 PM  
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: Also I'd have to say, if you're going to live in it full time, I feel like a fifth wheel might be the way to go. As you can drop the vehicle and go do things with just the pickup at a higher MPG. My retired parents spend October through April bumming around the south and south west with a pickup and fifth wheel. They're down by Lake Meade right now, I just got Hoover Dam pictures emailed in. They also left the RV part of the rig at the camp ground and drove into Vegas for two days. Much easier to park a 4x4 super duty pickup at the Aria Hotel for a night than an entire RV or bus.


Or tow the car - just make sure you attach it properly every time. I know someone that happened to. Actually, I think something broke, but either way it ended up being a driverless car going down the road all by itself.

Or if you can afford it:

www.lifesure.co.uk
2013-01-03 10:38:14 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: AutoCAD is meh. It's better than MicroStation but nowhere near as good as Revit. Revit gives me happy boners


mr. teeny likes AutoCAD and SolidWorks. He only has a little experience with Revit, though.
2013-01-03 10:37:54 PM  
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: UsikFark: Before: The couple bought a used school bus for $3000, painted it blue and white, gutted the inside and drafted autoCAD plans to design every detail of their new home.

They presumably have the money and I wish them luck. I will admit I wish I had joined the 4-foot high club back in my day...

AutoCAD is meh. It's better than MicroStation but nowhere near as good as Revit. Revit gives me happy boners


I said money, not taste.
2013-01-03 10:31:51 PM  
1 votes:
Nadie_AZ: "where do they park the damn thing when they have to sleep?"

In the parking lot of the hospital you work at?

pernellroberts.net
2013-01-03 10:27:12 PM  
1 votes:

UsikFark: Before: The couple bought a used school bus for $3000, painted it blue and white, gutted the inside and drafted autoCAD plans to design every detail of their new home.

They presumably have the money and I wish them luck. I will admit I wish I had joined the 4-foot high club back in my day...


AutoCAD is meh. It's better than MicroStation but nowhere near as good as Revit. Revit gives me happy boners
2013-01-03 10:26:02 PM  
1 votes:
www.carpictures.com

/built Ford tough
2013-01-03 10:13:15 PM  
1 votes:

p4p3rm4t3: [img171.imageshack.us image 599x449]


If one of these get retired, I could live in it.

www.globemaster.de
2013-01-03 10:11:35 PM  
1 votes:

quickdraw: Nadie_AZ: So .. where do they park the damn thing when they have to sleep?

Also, if I remember correctly, these things take a lot of gas to run.

They do and they have an alarming tendency to break down. I had a friend who lived in a school bus and he spent more money getting the damn thing fixed then he would have on rent.


They're easy to work on if you know what you're doing. One of my desires has always been to get an old 4x4 school bus (International Chasis likely) and make an awesome go anywhere RV out of it. Go West and visit all the national parks while fearing no dirt road. Something to do when I'm old and retired. Of course one of my first goals would be figuring out how to not make it look redneck fab by welding shiat onto it.

If some day you see some old geezer in a maize and blue converted into an RV tooling around, you'll know Ha-ha-guy's gone insane and done i.
2013-01-03 09:59:00 PM  
1 votes:
Is Fark even trying anymore?
2013-01-03 09:50:17 PM  
1 votes:
they currently wash dishes with vinegar and shower in other locations every two to three days

Um yeah no.
2013-01-03 08:56:49 PM  
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: So .. where do they park the damn thing when they have to sleep?

Also, if I remember correctly, these things take a lot of gas to run.


They do and they have an alarming tendency to break down. I had a friend who lived in a school bus and he spent more money getting the damn thing fixed then he would have on rent.
 
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