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(Fox News)   A contest where amateurs hunt in a swamp for snakes that grow up to 18 feet long has just kicked off. In Florida. I don't see what could POSSIBLY go wrong   (foxnews.com) divider line 102
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2013-01-03 08:23:23 PM  
i.ytimg.com

is already en route.
 
2013-01-03 08:41:47 PM  
www.fritriac.de
 
2013-01-03 08:42:29 PM  
Just jump in the water, snakes can't swim!
 
2013-01-03 08:44:04 PM  
We need a running scoreboard on this
 
2013-01-03 08:44:45 PM  
I know some middle aged sorority gals that hunt snake such as these.
They are cougars.
They are proud members of the hose beast sorority and they will hunt them down and put them in a warm, moist place and smother them and call them George.
 
2013-01-03 08:46:34 PM  
The very definition of Win-win.
 
2013-01-03 08:46:54 PM  
As long as they mandate that contestants wear helmet cameras and broadcast the best outtakes I see absolutely nothing wrong with this
 
2013-01-03 08:46:56 PM  
Waste of time...
 
2013-01-03 08:48:24 PM  
Ross Allen if he were alive, could have rounded them up.
 
2013-01-03 08:52:54 PM  
Nearly 400 people have registered for the Python Challenge so far and entered a program that may seem inadequate to become a snake wrangler, but wildlife officials say that entrants will have the opportunity to participate in additional training later this week.

Liability Insurers love little advertised tidbits like this.
 
2013-01-03 08:56:28 PM  
As Kevin Bacon (Capt. Jack Ross) says in  A Few Good Men....

"It's gonna be entertaining"
 
2013-01-03 08:57:18 PM  

fluffy2097: [www.fritriac.de image 303x400]


You don't suppose this is a clever attempt to lose the FLORIDA tag by cleaning up their gene pool do you?
 
2013-01-03 09:02:50 PM  
Amateurs can hunt for my 18 foot snake in their swamps if they so choose.
 
2013-01-03 09:04:04 PM  
If you ever find yourself at a tattoo shop that has replaced any "s" with a "z" (i.e. tattooz, intenze) you deserve exactly what you get, asshat.
 
2013-01-03 09:05:15 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: If you ever find yourself at a tattoo shop that has replaced any "s" with a "z" (i.e. tattooz, intenze) you deserve exactly what you get, asshat.


Or znake

Since you are in the wiring thread
 
2013-01-03 09:05:53 PM  

amquelbettamin: The Angry Hand of God: If you ever find yourself at a tattoo shop that has replaced any "s" with a "z" (i.e. tattooz, intenze) you deserve exactly what you get, asshat.

Or znake

Since you are in the wiring thread


Wrong
 
2013-01-03 09:06:39 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: If you ever find yourself at a tattoo shop that has replaced any "s" with a "z" (i.e. tattooz, intenze) you deserve exactly what you get, asshat.


While I agree, I do believe that the thread you were looking for slithered down one post.....
 
2013-01-03 09:08:38 PM  

Pribar: The Angry Hand of God: If you ever find yourself at a tattoo shop that has replaced any "s" with a "z" (i.e. tattooz, intenze) you deserve exactly what you get, asshat.

While I agree, I do believe that the thread you were looking for slithered down one post.....


If anyone gets an 18 foot snake tattoo, this applies!
 
2013-01-03 09:08:47 PM  

amquelbettamin: amquelbettamin: The Angry Hand of God: If you ever find yourself at a tattoo shop that has replaced any "s" with a "z" (i.e. tattooz, intenze) you deserve exactly what you get, asshat.

Or znake

Since you are in the wiring thread

Wrong


snakez?
 
2013-01-03 09:09:00 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: Nearly 400 people have registered for the Python Challenge so far and entered a program that may seem inadequate to become a snake wrangler, but wildlife officials say that entrants will have the opportunity to participate in additional training later this week.

Liability Insurers love little advertised tidbits like this.


My guess is that most injuries or deaths will be from terrain-related accidents and close encounters with human litter and other animals, not the constrictors.
 
2013-01-03 09:13:02 PM  
I live in the Middle Keys, half between Key Largo and Key West. Our water utility company snagged one BEHIND PUBLIX, right behind it, around quarter mile from my house, 100 feet off U.S. 1. So, while I am not a fan of yahoos heading to the Everglades for this, I don't really have a problem, either (it was never determined if the Publix snake was a released pet or wild animal because the crew killed it and disposed of it without notifying wildlife officials, but still...)
 
2013-01-03 09:13:07 PM  
I used to do catch and release of rattle snakes in Eastern Washington. They're poisonous, but fairly easy to catch if you know what you are doing.
they don't sit up in trees and drop on you when you walk by
they don't latch onto you to crush your bones

really WAY less scary than a 18 foot long several hundred pound python.
 
2013-01-03 09:16:57 PM  
Pfffffft. They shoulda called it "A Weekend in Bonanza Jellybean's Jockstrap."
 
2013-01-03 09:19:02 PM  
What time will this be on the History Channel?
 
2013-01-03 09:19:10 PM  

UsikFark: Zeb Hesselgresser: Nearly 400 people have registered for the Python Challenge so far and entered a program that may seem inadequate to become a snake wrangler, but wildlife officials say that entrants will have the opportunity to participate in additional training later this week.

Liability Insurers love little advertised tidbits like this.

My guess is that most injuries or deaths will be from terrain-related accidents and close encounters with human litter and other animals, not the constrictors.


no doubt, the possibilities abound; accidental shootings, stabbings, drowning, cardiac events, and the not-too-rare propeller maulings.
 
2013-01-03 09:21:36 PM  
Please televise this. But not just that. Please open up a betting pool and let us all get a good look at all the contestants.
 
2013-01-03 09:22:57 PM  
Question: What's the actual problem with the snakes being in the Everglades?

I get it, a lot of them were born from snakes released into the wild by former owners. So they were introduced by humanity. Got it. Are they killing people or something? I know, they are probably edging out some other species. Nature tends to get upset by outside factors and takes some time to regain balance, if it was ever balanced at all. All I'm saying is that some species thrive, some go extinct. The planet changes and ecosystems change to keep up. It's always happened and won't stop now.

Is there something else going on here other than a feeling of "we humans liked the Everglades as it was before these snakes were here, and since we put them here, we're going to try to remove them"? Is there an actual problem that's harming people or ruining business or commerce? Or is it just people not liking that the ecosystem changed and they want to change it back.
 
2013-01-03 09:23:59 PM  
My guess is that most injuries or deaths will be from terrain-related accidents and close encounters with human litter and other animals, not the constrictors.

Agreed. I don't think people realize just how well camouflaged these things can be, and just how hard they are to find. Their natural instinct when confronted by a threat is basically to freeze- if they do that when coiled up in the middle of a big grass tussock or brush pile, you'll never even know they are there. This is a feel-good measure that won't do anything to "control" python populations.
 
2013-01-03 09:26:02 PM  
Question: What's the actual problem with the snakes being in the Everglades?

I get it, a lot of them were born from snakes released into the wild by former owners. So they were introduced by humanity. Got it. Are they killing people or something? I know, they are probably edging out some other species. Nature tends to get upset by outside factors and takes some time to regain balance, if it was ever balanced at all. All I'm saying is that some species thrive, some go extinct. The planet changes and ecosystems change to keep up. It's always happened and won't stop now.

Is there something else going on here other than a feeling of "we humans liked the Everglades as it was before these snakes were here, and since we put them here, we're going to try to remove them"? Is there an actual problem that's harming people or ruining business or commerce? Or is it just people not liking that the ecosystem changed and they want to change it back.


It's largely hysteria plus a little bit of ecological impact. However, south FL is so overridden with exotic plants and animals its arguable that the environment there hasn't been "natural" for decades. As you say, natural selection will result in some sort of equilibrium state at some point. These animals are here to stay, short of nuking/napalming the entire region.
 
2013-01-03 09:27:00 PM  
Amateurs? They paid $25 each. That makes them professionals in my eyes.
 
2013-01-03 09:29:43 PM  
Recommended methods for dispatching the animals include hacking off their heads with a machete
Umm, no? If your training course doesn't include at least a five minute warning to take something a little bit more Predator-ish than large knife, then you're gonna get a suing.
 
2013-01-03 09:32:10 PM  

taurusowner: Question: What's the actual problem with the snakes being in the Everglades?

I get it, a lot of them were born from snakes released into the wild by former owners. So they were introduced by humanity. Got it. Are they killing people or something? I know, they are probably edging out some other species. Nature tends to get upset by outside factors and takes some time to regain balance, if it was ever balanced at all. All I'm saying is that some species thrive, some go extinct. The planet changes and ecosystems change to keep up. It's always happened and won't stop now.

Is there something else going on here other than a feeling of "we humans liked the Everglades as it was before these snakes were here, and since we put them here, we're going to try to remove them"? Is there an actual problem that's harming people or ruining business or commerce? Or is it just people not liking that the ecosystem changed and they want to change it back.


FTA....(And this is referring to Burmese pythons, an invasive species) The voracious predators have devastated the native species like deer, bobcats and raccoons.

Invasive species are also responsible for the disappearance of certain native birds & animals in Hawaii.
 
2013-01-03 09:32:55 PM  

Manfred J. Hattan: What time will this be on the History Channel?


Idiot. The history channel is for history. What kind of moron would put such a stupid show on the HISTORY channel?!

/really told him
 
2013-01-03 09:36:19 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: taurusowner: Question: What's the actual problem with the snakes being in the Everglades?

I get it, a lot of them were born from snakes released into the wild by former owners. So they were introduced by humanity. Got it. Are they killing people or something? I know, they are probably edging out some other species. Nature tends to get upset by outside factors and takes some time to regain balance, if it was ever balanced at all. All I'm saying is that some species thrive, some go extinct. The planet changes and ecosystems change to keep up. It's always happened and won't stop now.

Is there something else going on here other than a feeling of "we humans liked the Everglades as it was before these snakes were here, and since we put them here, we're going to try to remove them"? Is there an actual problem that's harming people or ruining business or commerce? Or is it just people not liking that the ecosystem changed and they want to change it back.

FTA....(And this is referring to Burmese pythons, an invasive species) The voracious predators have devastated the native species like deer, bobcats and raccoons.

Invasive species are also responsible for the disappearance of certain native birds & animals in Hawaii.



This is really it, in a nutshell. There are a couple native species that this snake is going eat off the face of the earth. The few native species left in the everglades have enough problems as it is, with all kind of invasive reptiles moving in.
 
2013-01-03 09:37:35 PM  
I'll start the popcorn
horrornews.net
I grew up in the swamps, where the scariest thing I ever saw was an 18 foot female 'gator. Lost my first puppy (I was six at the time) to a 'gator. Also lost my first pair of real shoes. Snakes? Nothing we could not deal with.
 
2013-01-03 09:39:11 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: taurusowner: Question: What's the actual problem with the snakes being in the Everglades?

I get it, a lot of them were born from snakes released into the wild by former owners. So they were introduced by humanity. Got it. Are they killing people or something? I know, they are probably edging out some other species. Nature tends to get upset by outside factors and takes some time to regain balance, if it was ever balanced at all. All I'm saying is that some species thrive, some go extinct. The planet changes and ecosystems change to keep up. It's always happened and won't stop now.

Is there something else going on here other than a feeling of "we humans liked the Everglades as it was before these snakes were here, and since we put them here, we're going to try to remove them"? Is there an actual problem that's harming people or ruining business or commerce? Or is it just people not liking that the ecosystem changed and they want to change it back.

FTA....(And this is referring to Burmese pythons, an invasive species) The voracious predators have devastated the native species like deer, bobcats and raccoons.

Invasive species are also responsible for the disappearance of certain native birds & animals in Hawaii.


Ok, understandable. But I gotta then ask...so what? New species shows up, some old species go away. Nature continues. Is there an actual problem other than "I like Species X but Species Y is killing them, so let's get rid of Species Y"?

Consider Zebra Muscles. Other than the "they're not native so it's our fault" argument, they ARE actually causing problems. Clogging up pipes, damaging boats and other property, edging out other species that are used as game fish or for commercial fishing, etc. Actual problems beyond "I don't like them here". Is there something comparable going on with the snakes?
 
2013-01-03 09:45:04 PM  
What could possibly go wrong?

Duplicates.
 
2013-01-03 09:45:58 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: taurusowner: Question: What's the actual problem with the snakes being in the Everglades?

I get it, a lot of them were born from snakes released into the wild by former owners. So they were introduced by humanity. Got it. Are they killing people or something? I know, they are probably edging out some other species. Nature tends to get upset by outside factors and takes some time to regain balance, if it was ever balanced at all. All I'm saying is that some species thrive, some go extinct. The planet changes and ecosystems change to keep up. It's always happened and won't stop now.

Is there something else going on here other than a feeling of "we humans liked the Everglades as it was before these snakes were here, and since we put them here, we're going to try to remove them"? Is there an actual problem that's harming people or ruining business or commerce? Or is it just people not liking that the ecosystem changed and they want to change it back.

FTA....(And this is referring to Burmese pythons, an invasive species) The voracious predators have devastated the native species like deer, bobcats and raccoons.

Invasive species are also responsible for the disappearance of certain native birds & animals in Hawaii.


Plus, you can also look at it like this: the current makeup of species in the everglades works. You introduce a new top-level predator and who knows what it'll do. Maybe it outhunts other predators leading to their local extinction, causing a population explosion of some animal that that predator ate but the snake doesn't. Maybe it eats all the deer and drives down tourism revenue. You just don't know what the effect is going to be, so why take the chance that it'll be bad?

Especially when so many other invasive species: African bees, snakeheads, kudzu, boll weevils - have been so bad for the local economy or ecosystems.

Besides, this current solution is to get rednecks to go grab their guns and try to shoot up something. It's not like it's going to require a lot of effort by the local government.
 
2013-01-03 09:47:37 PM  
I'm so glad there's at least a few states easier to make fun of than my own California.

Florida never fails to disappoint.
 
2013-01-03 09:49:06 PM  

Karac: Besides, this current solution is to get rednecks to go grab their guns and try to shoot up something. It's not like it's going to require a lot of effort by the local government.


Oh don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with people hunting the snakes. Humans are a local species too, and we play a part in the ecosystem just like anything else. Human eats deer, snake threatens deer, human kills snake. We're part of the game too. We just happen to use tools because our natural teeth and claws suck.
 
2013-01-03 09:50:24 PM  

teeny: I'm so glad there's at least a few states easier to make fun of than my own California.

Florida never fails to disappoint.


Yeah, but California is another country altogether
 
2013-01-03 09:50:52 PM  
fark snakes. I'm 1,000,000% behind this.
 
2013-01-03 09:53:03 PM  

Karac: Bathia_Mapes: taurusowner: Question

Besides, this current solution is to get rednecks to go grab their guns and try to shoot up something. It's not lik ...


What do you mean "try"? You obviously never saw my redneck grandmother hunt down a copperhead with a garden hoe.
 
2013-01-03 09:53:11 PM  

Plus, you can also look at it like this: the current makeup of species in the everglades works. You introduce a new top-level predator and who knows what it'll do. Maybe it outhunts other predators leading to their local extinction, causing a population explosion of some animal that that predator ate but the snake doesn't. Maybe it eats all the deer and drives down tourism revenue. You just don't know what the effect is going to be, so why take the chance that it'll be bad?

Especially when so many other invasive species: African bees, snakeheads, kudzu, boll weevils - have been so bad for the local economy or ecosystems.

Besides, this current solution is to get rednecks to go grab their guns and try to shoot up something. It's not like it's going to require a lot of effort by the local government.


The current species makeup of the everglades includes pacus, armored catfish, burmese pythons, exotic rats and mice, european starlings, humans, dogs, cats, japanese beetles, water hyacinth, australian pine, australian paperbark, curly-tailed lizards, at least 5 species of caribbean anoles, at least 4 species of old-world geckoes, cuban treefrogs, brazilian pepper, feral hogs, peacock bass

-this is not an exhaustive list by any means, but it highlights the fact that the Everglades ecosystem is NOT a natural system. The pythons, while likely having an affect on some mammalian predators, are only one of very many invasive species, each of which are depredating or outcompeting native species. Nothing we can do is going to change any of that, and pythons themselves are so cryptic that to think we can control them using these types of measures is exceptionally naive.
 
2013-01-03 09:55:12 PM  
Lets see, a fox news article about people in florida trying to get themselves eaten by a snake. I'm saying we go ahead and jump the shark. Lets have a reality TV show about a reality TV show. I'm guessing that whatever idiots involved in filming this would make as good a freak show as the object here.
/DNRTFA
//Fox should not have rights to public spectrum, any more than axis sally
/// florida should be a client state, like puerto rico, at best
 
2013-01-03 09:56:35 PM  
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sxacho: Manfred J. Hattan: What time will this be on the History Channel?

Idiot. The history channel is for history. What kind of moron would put such a stupid show on the HISTORY channel?!

/really told him


Wrong channel.
 
2013-01-03 09:57:17 PM  
Is this not a repeat? Give us the final count, human and snakes already...
 
2013-01-03 09:58:09 PM  
If they want to get rid of them, start having celebrities wear Gucci designed 'Florida python' clothing. Create a market and humans have proven to be very good at driving animals to extinction.
 
2013-01-03 09:59:14 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-03 09:59:15 PM  

Sloppy Wreck: Is this not a repeat? Give us the final count, human and snakes already...


Followup I'm told.
 
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