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2013-01-03 04:11:57 PM

WhoopAssWayne: He always makes Obama look like such a limp-wristed pussy in any kind of negotiation. Obama is his biatch and knows it. Just like how Obama bent over for Boehner recently, and loved it. Hahaha.


And here I thought all the lame-ass trolls went back under the bridge after the epic ass-whooping Obama gave them.

"plonk"
 
2013-01-03 04:18:25 PM
He's not a whole lot better than old Newtie.

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Pelosi is terrible as well. What the frack is wrong with the House? Is there no one there who can lead themselves out of a wet paper bag?

Those two wastes of skin can't be the "best and brightest" that the House has to offer.
 
2013-01-03 04:26:02 PM

Max Awesome: [i42.photobucket.com image 750x562]

Uncle Arthur gave me hope as a scared little gay boy. He was so obviously flaming, and yet he was completely accepted by his family and beloved by his niece. I was convinced I would one day lose my family and be hated by them forever when I eventually came out, so it was reassuring to see an example of a gay man who still had his family's respect and love.

Plus, he was an uber-powerful Warlock who pushed-around the uptight anti-magic Darren and teased him mercilessly. Most of the humour of Bewtiched came from watching the conservative priggish Darren being befuddled by his more powerful and intelligent wife, and it was the same with Uncle Arthur - a witty gay man in a position of power above a weaker straight guy was just not something you saw on tv.

Actually, I'm not sure it's a dynamic you see on television today, come to think of it. Bewitched was rather subversive.

/I just watched a Bewitched marathon on New Year's Day. I hadn't seen it in decades - it was awesome. I'm going to buy the dvd sets now.


The ASSESSOR? Here? In COCO BEACH? (I know it's not the same show but still lol)
 
2013-01-03 04:27:08 PM

devalt: [thepoliticalcarnival.net image 300x300]

U Mad??


cincinnati.com

Sniff. Nooooo.
 
2013-01-03 04:28:43 PM

Homegrown: Which one of you beautiful people is this:

To: TexasCajun
Yep, I wonder if we have more than caving in going on.
No content with Nazies hunting adult Jews in France, the Vichy French insisted on hunting the kids for them, which the Nazies had no room for and did not want.


When I read that, I thought for a moment that I was having a stroke.
 
2013-01-03 04:28:52 PM

Fista-Phobia: devalt: [thepoliticalcarnival.net image 300x300]

U Mad??

[cincinnati.com image 370x400]

Sniff. Nooooo.


That pic is just a few frames away from becoming a Picasso painting.
 
2013-01-03 04:38:17 PM

Therion: Saddle up, boys!

img823.imageshack.us

It's a New American Century. Yee-haw!


Piney?!
 
2013-01-03 04:39:34 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: He's not a whole lot better than old Newtie.

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Pelosi is terrible as well. What the frack is wrong with the House? Is there no one there who can lead themselves out of a wet paper bag?

Those two wastes of skin can't be the "best and brightest" that the House has to offer.


Damn, I hate that supercilious motherfarker. I lived in Georgia during his shiatstorm, and was embarrased to be geographically connected to him. Such a living dildo.
 
2013-01-03 04:40:20 PM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I have such a major dumb when it comes to politics. WTF is wrong with these people that they have to be all crazy like? I go out of my way when voting to make sure I at least somewhat understand all of what's going on, but our congress, they apparently don't feel it's part of their job. They seem to vote on what their little line in the sand is based on and what others tell them to do. They need to start hanging out at Fark. I've learned a lot of stuff here. I think if congress members were required to pay Drew $5/mo., they'd be a lot smarter about things.

/Boehner really needs to lay off the tanning spray
//unless he's trying to be invisible when sitting in a leather chair
///kinda misses Michele "crazy eyes" Bachmann for the amusement value


Crazy isn't it.

I've always enjoyed the political discussions on Fark because it allows for honest dialog between people of various backgrounds all across (mostly) the United States. Everything from intelligent comments and well-thought-out responses to brain-drain level stupidity. I feel it helps give me a pretty fair pulse of the nation.

The fun part is taking the political discussions from Fark and replaying them in the real world. There have been many times I was able to counter a particular argument because it was already discussed in length on Fark.

Additionally, because the content is all fairly visible and concentrated it make it easy to see patterns and make better assumptions. It's that reason that I never believed President Obama would lose his position. Literally a year earlier I remember reading some Farkers who had laid out the entire situation and the facts and the numbers just weren't there for Romney.
 
2013-01-03 04:48:32 PM

Gonz: Look, I realize this is Fark, but the man's name is pronounced "Bay-nher". Let's not be a bunch of dicks, and go off half-cocked at every headline that makes some sort of juvenile reference to the man's name. He's third in line for the Presidency, which is hard to achieve. It's a great distance to rise, and they'll probably erect monuments to him in Ohio.

And while we're at it, sure, the man drinks. Who doesn't? But I don't want to spend the next 2 years talking about Boehner vomiting White Russians. Let's have a bit of respect.

//Colossal Phallus


You said "erect."
 
2013-01-03 04:51:31 PM

Homegrown: Which one of you beautiful people is this:

To: TexasCajun

Yep, I wonder if we have more than caving in going on.

No content with Nazies hunting adult Jews in France, the Vichy French insisted on hunting the kids for them, which the Nazies had no room for and did not want.


Um....

Wow.

I thought I had seen everything on Freep, but...

Wow.
 
2013-01-03 05:02:34 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Corvus: zetar: While over in Freeperland, they shake their tiny impotent fists.

Yes, I know schadenfreude is wrong. Nonetheless, the link is below if you need some larfs.

"Primary them all. Every last one. We will continue to get this crap until they fear us."

Wow heads are aspoliding.

To: TexasCajun

I was a Democrat until they became Socialist then I became a Republican until they became Democrats & now I'm heading for Independent. I'm still a Conservative but the parties keep going left & the United States is in a sorry state.

The hell?


In other words, he was fine until the "blah" man got in office.
 
2013-01-03 05:02:51 PM

Gonz: Look, I realize this is Fark, but the man's name is pronounced "Bay-nher".


Actually "Böhner" but that's pretty close. His family probably came from Nuremberg, and fled to America after the failed revolution of 1848. The name means they lived on a hill.
 
2013-01-03 05:34:58 PM

Homegrown: homosexualoid


That dude is definitely deranged but that's a great word.
 
2013-01-03 05:54:27 PM

Bladel: dumbobruni: Peter von Nostrand: Bachman

Bachmann voted for Boehner. Free Republic is in meltdown mode.

K Street working girl.

oh my.

Link

What's truly funny is that so many over there swore they weren't Republicans, but rather "Independents."  Now they are declaring their tenure as GOP shills as they jump ship....


That's what is so hilarious about the GOP citing the fact that Romney won with independents as some kind of indicator that unbiased people preferred the Republican platform. The actual fact was that huge numbers of their own members refused to self-identify as such. "Independent" became code for "can't bear to say I'm with the GOP anymore". But Fox still tries to hold up "independent" support for GOP positions as meaningful.
 
2013-01-03 06:15:52 PM

durbnpoisn: trappedspirit: durbnpoisn: That's just great! He can't get the House to vote to get relief funds released to help all those people that are still homeless after 67 days, but he can call a vote to save his job.

What. A. Dick!!

As Gov. Christie so elegantly put it yesterday, this is why the US hates Congress!

Uh, every new congress votes for speaker of the house. So I hope you are either trolling or never vote.


Yes I do know that. But here's the thing, they were done with that at 1:30 this afternoon. Clearly it doesn't take very long. So, why didn't he do the vote to free up the funds first? Why is he delaying that untl tomorrow? Why was it delayed this farking long to start with?


Governor Christie could care less how to govern his state. If Congress wants to make a statement on Sandy, they should deny funds. We're rebuilding just fine here in New Jersey - and if Christie actually went out and looked for himself he'd see that!
 
2013-01-03 06:27:27 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: I've always enjoyed the political discussions on Fark because it allows for honest dialog between people of various backgrounds all across (mostly) the United States. Everything from intelligent comments and well-thought-out responses to brain-drain level stupidity. I feel it helps give me a pretty fair pulse of the nation.

The fun part is taking the political discussions from Fark and replaying them in the real world. There have been many times I was able to counter a particular argument because it was already discussed in length on Fark.


I know I practically know the full conversation I have with people I know just from the start. It gets a little frustrating because you know what they are going to say each step of the way.
 
2013-01-03 06:32:35 PM

Homegrown: Which one of you beautiful people is this:

To: TexasCajun

Yep, I wonder if we have more than caving in going on.

No content with Nazies hunting adult Jews in France, the Vichy French insisted on hunting the kids for them, which the Nazies had no room for and did not want.

The GOPe vs. Pelosie argument and treachery going on of conservatives is an interesting burning question.

What side are they on? Are they really promoting Obama more than liberals do?

A bully usually has a following of bullies. They usually attack what is not attackable because they are too cowardly to defend from what attacks them and chews their rectum up. So they attack the inattackable, the innocent or the righteous.

This self digging of the grave that politicians stuck on cowardice stupidity and corruption would be fun to watch if we were not getting splatters from this homosexualoid denial widening further their rectal acceptance of STDs.

Death by bunga bunga entertainment.

I mean, why have the purse strings at all? Give the biatch Obama the whole credit card and let him rob (ahem, control) the banks for his vacation management in Hawai.

All the past Genocides legitimize these vacations, it is so dignified.

And the Secret Service muting our freedom of speech and right to stand up straight to their faces during campaigns... yeah, whatever.

I just love to see an easily stuck on stupid government trying to attack and dig up further its own grave trying to make right by making more wrongs. It's great endebting behavior. It needs to continue.

Conservatives need to continue challenge their stuckness and doing more and more wrong until this sheiz flushes itself away completely, heads in their own arses. The whole deal gang of them, domestic and foreign homosexualoid bunch of them.

Go ahead, make my day, kill and rob the elderly instead of asking them how they raised money for their retirement. Nothing like a bunch of dumbass bureaucrates telling us how to do it instead of keeping to ju ...


What's sad is that his reality is dim purely from his own making. This person needs mental health help. He reminds me of the kind of person that kills his wife because his football team lost. UGH.
 
2013-01-03 06:56:00 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Go fark yourself!


lol U MAD BRO!
 
2013-01-03 07:01:27 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: He's not a whole lot better than old Newtie.


He's light years WORSE than Gingrich ever was. Gingrich at least governed. He controlled his people. He managed to push through and ultimately have signed a lot of legislation despite a President from the opposition party.

Christ, I'd farking kill to have Gingrich in place instead of Boehner.
 
2013-01-03 07:37:13 PM

TIKIMAN87: Uranus Is Huge!: Go fark yourself!

lol U MAD BRO!


Points and laughs at the guy who missed the joke.

Link
 
2013-01-03 07:44:53 PM
Pic request: Gadsden Ouroboros. Can't find it on google.
 
2013-01-03 07:54:53 PM
www.azovino.com
 
2013-01-03 07:58:47 PM
Deucednuisance:
(Me): ...but for which he should be impeached...
Okay, I'll bite. How is a little intra-party shenanigans relevant to the man's position? How is this a high crime or misdemeanor? What law was broken?

Go ahead make your case.

PS: I don't think any court would admit the cellphone vid of the purported teleprompter into evidence without just a wee bit of validation that it is what it is claimed to be and a solid chain of custody is established for it.

PPS: I think what was done was sleazy as all get out, but I'm not disputing that. I'm asking you to make your case that it's an impeachable offense.


You didn't read the followups like I asked, did you? Your questions were already answered in that long-closed thread.

abb3w:
(Me): Read this post and its followups for something very serious that Bœhner did (on video!) not long ago that IMHO renders him not only unsuited to be Speaker of the House, but for which he should be impeached.
Only members of the Executive and Judiciary can be impeached. Members of the Legislative branch are expelled, by a two-thirds vote of whichever House they are a member of.

Carry on....


Thanks for the correction (and again for the TotalFARK ― which reminds me: I still need to go to the TotalFARK Discussions and post that exegesis before it expires)!
 
2013-01-03 08:11:46 PM
Is...is it supposed to be that orange?


/Nevermind...was just the Cheetos.
 
2013-01-03 08:13:31 PM

wjmorris3: We're rebuilding just fine here in New Jersey


Just because things are going well on your block, and I hope they are, doesn't mean they are going so well on the next block over. Have you paid for all your repairs already, in full?
 
2013-01-03 08:19:30 PM

Gonz: Look, I realize this is Fark, but the man's name is pronounced "Bay-nher". Let's not be a bunch of dicks, and go off half-cocked at every headline that makes some sort of juvenile reference to the man's name. He's third in line for the Presidency, which is hard to achieve. It's a great distance to rise, and they'll probably erect monuments to him in Ohio.

And while we're at it, sure, the man drinks. Who doesn't? But I don't want to spend the next 2 years talking about Boehner vomiting White Russians. Let's have a bit of respect.

//Colossal Phallus


I now have you farkied as "Bohner lover" :D
 
2013-01-03 08:33:11 PM
House sustains its FAIL.
/pox on both houses
 
2013-01-03 08:37:49 PM

cretinbob: wjmorris3: We're rebuilding just fine here in New Jersey

Just because things are going well on your block, and I hope they are, doesn't mean they are going so well on the next block over. Have you paid for all your repairs already, in full?

i
No repairs were needed here. I still think that the government has more pressing matters to deal with than helping people in blue states.
 
2013-01-03 08:44:19 PM

wjmorris3: cretinbob: wjmorris3: We're rebuilding just fine here in New Jersey

Just because things are going well on your block, and I hope they are, doesn't mean they are going so well on the next block over. Have you paid for all your repairs already, in full?
i
No repairs were needed here. I still think that the government has more pressing matters to deal with than helping people in blue states.


Duly noted. Anything else on your mind you feel like sharing?
 
2013-01-03 10:07:27 PM
I think we should call a doctor, a Boehner shouldn't cry like that.
 
2013-01-03 10:20:34 PM
I wonder if Mr W J Morris 3 of Toadfart, Alaska, comprehends that there are Reds living in blue states.
 
2013-01-03 10:23:00 PM

Kittypie070: I wonder if Mr W J Morris 3 of Toadfart, Alaska, comprehends that there are Reds living in blue states.


Have you considered how much of a leech New Jersey is on the United States of America? They get a ridiculous amount back of their tax dollars, why give them any more?
 
2013-01-03 10:23:03 PM
But still as impotent as ever!
 
2013-01-03 11:57:29 PM
The Republicans are happy that they got their huge prick once again
 
2013-01-04 12:15:14 AM
John Boehner looks like Hulk Hogan's penis.
 
2013-01-04 01:55:18 AM

SkittleBrau: Shaggy_C: Meh. Speaker of the House is a largely ceremonial position these days. Senate Minority leader, now there's the real power in the US Federal government. No bill can even get a vote without getting the green light from the minority party first.

I'm thinking that second in the succession line to POTUS (right behind VP) is just a bit more important than a "ceremonial" position. Being Speaker is more than just a title.



Not to mention, you know, his actual job. John Boehner can single-handedly bring a bill to the floor or not- the only way of getting around the leadership is a discharge petition, which is a massively difficult thing to get done. Not to mention the behind the scenes wrangling, setting out what bills get floor time, which don't, which get cursory votes where members of the party might choose to split, which are the focus of a full court press where arms get broken behind the scenes to make sure wavering votes stay right where they are.

Boehner has been a very weak speaker in many ways, partially due to his style and where his strengths lie, but also due to the nutjobs in his caucus that he has to deal with.

It's an incredibly powerful job, and hardly just ceremonial.
 
2013-01-04 08:24:10 AM

ilambiquated: Gonz: Look, I realize this is Fark, but the man's name is pronounced "Bay-nher".

Actually "Böhner" but that's pretty close. His family probably came from Nuremberg, and fled to America after the failed revolution of 1848. The name means they lived on a hill.


Hills are just places where the Earth has pitched a tent.
 
2013-01-04 09:36:17 AM

wjmorris3: Kittypie070: I wonder if Mr W J Morris 3 of Toadfart, Alaska, comprehends that there are Reds living in blue states.

Have you considered how much of a leech New Jersey is on the United States of America? They get a ridiculous amount back of their tax dollars, why give them any more?


As a fellow resident of New Jersey, I assume you're aware that our taxes provide more federal aid than any other state in the union?
 
2013-01-04 10:42:46 AM

Shaggy_C: Senate Minority leader, now there's the real power in the US Federal government.


The Senate Minority Leader does indeed wield tremendous power, but less than the center-most member of the minority party. (Outgoing incumbent Olympia Snowe handed off the reins of power to her fellow Mainer Susan Collins in a touching, bland ceremony yesterday.)

She, in turn, can pretty much suck Anthony Kennedy's dick along with all the rest of us. 'Cause that's the farker in charge.
 
2013-01-04 01:28:15 PM

COMALite J: You didn't read the followups like I asked, did you? Your questions were already answered in that long-closed thread.


Yes, I did, and no, they weren't.

That why I asked.

You've made no case, whatsoever.
 
2013-01-04 01:57:14 PM

Deucednuisance: COMALite J: You didn't read the followups like I asked, did you? Your questions were already answered in that long-closed thread.

Yes, I did, and no, they weren't.

That why I asked.

You've made no case, whatsoever.


Last bullet point in this post in that thread:
• And that leads us to the really big difference in seriousness between the two: You just watched the Speaker of the United States Congress House of Representatives, arguably the most powerful directly elected person in the nation, completely ignore the very basis of democracy in a key vote for his own Party, involving his own delegates! This brings up a vital question: has he done this before, in Congress!? Has he sent bills on to the Senate or even the President that did not actually pass a majority vote of the House? Has he declared bills as not passing that did pass? We just watched him demonstrate how willing he is, without a hint of shame, to flagrantly perjure the results of a floor vote! This, mind you, for his own Party! These happen in the House as well!
Have I made an actual case? Not yet. But I think that Ben Swann's video and my analysis thereof have established sufficient probable cause to warrant further investigation.

If he corrupted even one House floor vote as we saw and heard him do without a hint of shame nor twinge of conscience for the RNC rules change vote, that would at the very least justify removing him as Speaker, if not from the House entirely, and criminal charges of malfeasance in office may well be in order.
 
2013-01-04 02:34:49 PM

COMALite J: If he corrupted even one House floor vote as we saw and heard him do without a hint of shame nor twinge of conscience for the RNC rules change vote,


And what reason do you have to suppose such a thing occurred? Rank speculation.

COMALite J: that would at the very least justify removing him as Speaker,


I wonder what you think the job of "Whip" entails. Votes get leveraged every day.

COMALite J: criminal charges of malfeasance in office may well be in order.


I trust you can cite a relevant statute?

Look, I'm not saying it wasn't sleazy, it was. And that's discounting the teleprompter vid (unsubstantiated) or the bus-jacking (mere allegation, driver could have been circling looking for a legal place to allow passengers to disembark safely, we don't know).

But if the guy can't get sanctioned for passing out lobbyist checks on the floor of the House , this ain't a hill of beans.

You're pissing up a rope, dude.

And you still haven't made a case. You've expressed your outrage, but that's not "a case".
 
2013-01-04 02:49:37 PM
Oh, one more thing:

You're discounting one very important phrase, which is a "get out of jail free" card:

"IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR"

I'm trying to find an example of the thing your claim to seek: Back in the Air America days, Al Franken and Randy Rhodes both repeatedly played a clip of a GOP Member of Congress presiding over a voice vote, which was blatantly called wrong, not even close. Nothing happened to him. If I find it, I'll post it.

You can tilt at windmills as long as you like, but nothing's going to come of this.

Nor should it.
 
2013-01-04 03:39:55 PM

Deucednuisance:

(Me): If he corrupted even one House floor vote as we saw and heard him do without a hint of shame nor twinge of conscience for the RNC rules change vote,
And what reason do you have to suppose such a thing occurred? Rank speculation.

Speculation? Yes, which is why I specified "If" above and "IMHO" in the original post.
(Me): that would at the very least justify removing him as Speaker,
I wonder what you think the job of "Whip" entails. Votes get leveraged every day.

Does it involve chairing the entire House and presiding over and tabulating the results of floor voice votes on bills? I thought that only the Speaker did that, but am open to correction. I'm not talking about leveraging. I'm talking about willfully misrepresenting the results of voice votes on bills intended to become the law of the land.
(Me): criminal charges of malfeasance in office may well be in order.
I trust you can cite a relevant statute?

No, which is why I said those underlined words.

Look, I'm not saying it wasn't sleazy, it was. And that's discounting the teleprompter vid (unsubstantiated)...

You think that someone faked that teleprompter video that convincingly and that quickly (complete with visible background of the known portion of the venue where the teleprompter monitor was), and nobody spoke out about that when the teleprompter monitor was apparently within clear view of a section of delegates?

or the bus-jacking (mere allegation, driver could have been circling looking for a legal place to allow passengers to disembark safely, we don't know).

That might explain circling around the venue (but I doubt it for reasons I'll mention in a bit). It would not explain circling it, then driving somewhere else entirely a substantial distance away, then driving back and letting them off practically at the door right after the vote was done.

It was a shuttle bus, not a car. It didn't have to find a parking place. Shuttles had a designated loading / unloading spot, and that spot was only to be used by shuttles (and maybe taxis).

But if the guy can't get sanctioned for passing out lobbyist checks on the floor of the House , this ain't a hill of beans.

You're pissing up a rope, dude.


That's pretty bad alright, and I didn't know about it before. Thanks. I still, however, disagree on which "ain't a hill of beans." Willfully misrepresenting the results of floor voice votes on bills intended to become law would be far and away more serious, again IMHO. It'd undermine the whole point of even having a House of Representatives in the first place.

And you still haven't made a case. You've expressed your outrage, but that's not "a case".

I never said I had a case, not in the sense of a prosecutor or D.A.

Deucednuisance: Oh, one more thing:

You're discounting one very important phrase, which is a "get out of jail free" card:

"IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR"


Thus the "U.S.A.!! U.S.A.!!" shouts which, according to testimony from people who were there, were pre-arranged and timed to drown out the shouts of "Objection!" and "Point of Order!" (which he would've been obligated to address had he heard them) to give him the plausible deniability that constitutes your GOoJF card.

I'm trying to find an example of the thing your claim to seek: Back in the Air America days, Al Franken and Randy Rhodes both repeatedly played a clip of a GOP Member of Congress presiding over a voice vote, which was blatantly called wrong, not even close. Nothing happened to him. If I find it, I'll post it.

Please do. Please do so if you can find an example of a Democrat doing this, too. Evil is evil, no matter who does it.

You can tilt at windmills as long as you like, but nothing's going to come of this.

I don't expect it to. I just won't sit back and acquiesce in silence as our representative republic is undermined. I may not be able to do anything, but at least I can make it more well known.

Nor should it.

WAT!? Why not? Why on Earth, if my speculations turn out to be true, should nothing come of this? I really wanna hear this!
 
2013-01-04 04:05:38 PM

COMALite J: Why on Earth, if my speculations turn out to be true, should nothing come of this?


Precisely because it's based on nothing more than "speculation".

Period.
 
2013-01-04 06:01:13 PM
Deucednuisance:
COMALite J: Why on Earth, if my speculations turn out to be true, should nothing come of this?
Precisely because it's based on nothing more than "speculation"

Period.


You really need to start reading all the words in my posts. Speculations that turn out to be true are no longer mere speculations, practically by definition.
 
2013-01-05 01:59:42 PM

COMALite J: Please do so if you can find an example of a Democrat doing this, too.


I think Tip O'Neill did a stunt somewhat like that once, back in the day; called for a voice vote, and declared that the Ayes had it -- when the actual balance was anything but clear. I think it was this incident that I'm thinking of, but I'm not sure.

Was sketchy back then, too.
 
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