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(BBC)   Argentina: "Give us the precious". England: "No". Argentina: "But we WANTSSS IT"   (bbc.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-01-03 05:22:00 PM  

Rwa2play: unyon: Hey Argentina, if you want the islands back, just go take them.  As you've pointed out, London is 14000 km away.  What are they possibly gonna do?

Yeah, it's not like the Prime Minister would threaten to nuke Buenos Aires right?


Sure they can. Just blame it on the bugs.

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2013-01-03 05:23:04 PM  
Las Islas Malvinas son Argentinas.


Argentina should really start a infiltration terrorist campaign against these pitiful little islands and the larger ones . Suicide bombing for the Argentine motherland will buy their rights back with british blood. DEATH TO ENGLAND!
 
2013-01-03 05:23:34 PM  

Captain Steroid: Is this some sort of Argentinian "right of passage"? Once a generation, they try and usurp the Falklands from the hands of the British?

South America is WEIRD. :/


I think that the word is "rite"...

And yes... we are WEIRD...
 
2013-01-03 05:23:38 PM  
FTFA:"They're holding a referendum this year and I hope the president of Argentina will listen to that referendum and recognise it is for the Falkland Islanders to choose their future, and as long as they choose to stay with the United Kingdom they have my 100% backing."

Okay, I know what he meant to say, but that's really amusing. "You're free to choose anyone you like, as long as it's us."
 
2013-01-03 05:23:45 PM  
Next up: Argentina floods the islands with Argentinian citizens.
 
2013-01-03 05:26:00 PM  
It is wag the dog time again. Kirchner is doing this to raise support fro her failing and corrupt government. If she goes to war she'll end up like the Junta did in the 1980's.
 
2013-01-03 05:26:08 PM  

BigNumber12: Next up: Argentina floods the islands with Argentinian citizens.


The Mariel boatlift didn't exactly turn Miami into loyal Castro territory.
 
2013-01-03 05:26:42 PM  
If Argentina is really complaining about colonialism, then fine. Move the Falkland Islanders to the UK.

Then move *all* Argentines to the Malvinas, and give the mainland to the Indians.
 
2013-01-03 05:28:20 PM  
Let's turn Buenos Aires into the world's largest glass parking lot and maybe these dagos will shut up about those stupid islands for once.
 
2013-01-03 05:30:35 PM  

YixilTesiphon: BigNumber12: Next up: Argentina floods the islands with Argentinian citizens.

The Mariel boatlift didn't exactly turn Miami into loyal Castro territory.


Miami, pop: 400,000
Falklands, pop: 3,140
 
2013-01-03 05:31:43 PM  
Fark Rye For Many Whores: Gecko Gingrich: Argentina says it inherited ownership of the islands from Spain, arguing that British colonists occupied the islands by force in 1833 and expelled settlers, violating Argentina's territorial integrity.

What's the Spanish word for "irony"?

These people were white.


As are most Argentinians.
 
2013-01-03 05:31:59 PM  
Good luck, Britain. Not that you'll need it.
 
2013-01-03 05:32:47 PM  
They should settle it like men, on the football pitch.
 
2013-01-03 05:33:14 PM  
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Smoking hot Argentine President is smoking hot.
 
2013-01-03 05:34:56 PM  

electronicmaji: Argentina should really start a infiltration terrorist campaign against these pitiful little islands


They already tried that and met an Iron Lady.
 
2013-01-03 05:35:41 PM  
What islands?

WTF, never heard of 'em, Guess there was a brouhaha over them back in the 1940's or some thing I guess. Whatever.

You guys care if you want. Fight, fight fight!

/Seriously, anybody else heard of the "British Isles" before this?
 
2013-01-03 05:37:25 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: LargeCanine: The Falklands is not even close to Argentina. Nor has Argentina actually ever owned them.

They're a helluva lot closer to Argentina than they are to Great Britain.


So? Hawaii is closer to Mexico than the US. Cuba used to be a US possession (for far longer than the Falklands was Argentinian, errr, Spanish) and is less than 100 miles away, do we get Cuba because it's nearby? Puerto Rico is closer to the Dominican than Florida, should we cede it?

The citizens of the Falklands voted to remain British, let them.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:00 PM  
spiderpaz: Define Irony: The Argentinians claiming they need to take over land from a neighboring island against the will of the people that live there so that they can exploit the natural resources there. Why?... to STOP colonialism, that's why!

LOL - you can't explain that!

1) The Falklands have been British for longer than Argentina has existed.
2) The residents of the Falklands choose to stay British. Argentina subjugating them against their will ... THAT would be colonialism.
3) Argentina is only asking to negotiate NOW because they took a cheap shot and invaded the Falklands and then got beat down - kind of convenient that they don't want ownership decided by force ... after the fact.

Summary: Argentina has no earthly right to poses the Falklands and are complete hypocrites for even asking. Moreover their leaders are only doing so to distract their people from how miserably pathetic they have been running the country.


Argentina got it's independence in 1810, however the islands were not a part of that back then.
 
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2013-01-03 05:38:32 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: LargeCanine: The Falklands is not even close to Argentina. Nor has Argentina actually ever owned them.

They're a helluva lot closer to Argentina than they are to Great Britain.

Though they are closest of all to the Falkland Islands, which aren't part of either Argentina or Great Britain. Argentina wants to pretend there are two parties in this debate, but there are three. The Falklands are self-governing, and it's really up to them to choose their own destiny.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:52 PM  
Hmm... for some reason I got this song caught in my head while reading this... was thinking of the Falklands singing it...

Don't cry for me Argentina
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance
 
2013-01-03 05:38:56 PM  
So does the Monroe Doctrine or NATO membership take precedence here? Or do they cancel each other out?
 
2013-01-03 05:39:15 PM  
How come no one says "Argentine" anymore? WTF is an "Argentinian"?

Language is supposed to simplify over time, not get more complicated, people!
 
2013-01-03 05:40:06 PM  

BigNumber12: Next up: Argentina floods the islands with Argentinian citizens.



The movie F*ckland had a slightly different take:

The film takes place decades after the Falklands War between Argentina and the United Kingdom for the control of the Falkland Islands in the South Atlantic Ocean.

The film tells of Fabián Stratas, a magician and stand-up comedian from Buenos Aires, who saves his money from weddings, birthdays, and bar mitzvahs, and uses a hidden camera to document a week-long trip to the Falkland Islands, (or "farkland", as he calls them), where he has an ingenious Argentine patriotic plan: to impregnate a Falklander woman.

Stratas has a theory: if only 500 Argentines did the same each year, the islands would soon be overrun with half-Argentines, and he would be the head of a "sexual invasion." Brilliant idea, he thinks.

He spends his first couple of days on the island doing reconnaissance, and soon sets his eyes on Camila Heaney, whom he first saw in church.

He chats her up at an Internet café and then they go out for drinks, which is followed by dinner. They also take a field trip to see the King penguins and the 1982 battlefield.

Fabian has initial success, getting to have sex with Camila twice, first in his hotel room and then on the beach. He succeeds and manages to impregnate her before leaving for Buenos Aires, cocky and happy for having achieved his goal and duped his lover. However, Heaney gets the last word, making a videotape on Fabian's camera where she denounces him as the shallow, condescending and self-centered Argentine he is. After this, the camera shows Stratas, unfazed by Camila's anger, taking a shower while singing the Charly García cover of the Argentine National Anthem.
 
2013-01-03 05:40:47 PM  
They should put in a claim for Diaoyu/Senkaku while they're at it.
 
2013-01-03 05:40:56 PM  
I still think it was a pretty big loss for Argentina and the world at large when it turned out that Kirchener didn't have cancer. She's just going to keep bringing this shiat up over and over to maintain her support while the value of the Argentine peso continues to plummet and the economy goes to hell.
 
2013-01-03 05:42:01 PM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: If Argentina is really complaining about colonialism, then fine. Move the Falkland Islanders to the UK.

Then move *all* Argentines to the Malvinas, and give the mainland to the Indians.


They sorta massacred them all.
 
2013-01-03 05:44:29 PM  

Scythed: I still think it was a pretty big loss for Argentina and the world at large when it turned out that Kirchener didn't have cancer. She's just going to keep bringing this shiat up over and over to maintain her support while the value of the Argentine peso continues to plummet and the economy goes to hell.


The single best indicator of the Argentine economy is the amount of biatching the government does about the Falklands---it's a perfect inverse relationship.
 
2013-01-03 05:44:34 PM  

Latinwolf: Fark Rye For Many Whores: Gecko Gingrich: Argentina says it inherited ownership of the islands from Spain, arguing that British colonists occupied the islands by force in 1833 and expelled settlers, violating Argentina's territorial integrity.

What's the Spanish word for "irony"?

These people were white.

As are most Argentinians.


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2013-01-03 05:46:58 PM  

Rwa2play: Yeah, it's not like the Prime Minister would threaten to nuke Buenos Aires right?


Nuke?  No, no no.  But if I lived there, I'd be thinking about catastrophic asteroid insurance right about now.
 
2013-01-03 05:47:30 PM  
So when is Canada coming for the Northwest Angle? One of these days I will search out why the US has a small slice of land connected to Canada but seperated from the US by Lake of the Woods. It never made sense.
 
2013-01-03 05:48:17 PM  
Britain still has atomic-powered attack submarines, Argentina:

rna-10-area.co.uk
 
2013-01-03 05:48:30 PM  

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2013-01-03 05:49:54 PM  

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Smoking hot Argentine President is smoking hot.


She's old and wrinkled. Eww.
 
2013-01-03 05:50:49 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: It's all about the oil, of course.


Ah. I was wondering why the Argentinians would want a rock with some sheep on it so bad.
 
2013-01-03 05:52:01 PM  

Saiga410: So when is Canada coming for the Northwest Angle? One of these days I will search out why the US has a small slice of land connected to Canada but seperated from the US by Lake of the Woods. It never made sense.


Wikipedia is your friend.
 
2013-01-03 05:52:44 PM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: How come no one says "Argentine" anymore? WTF is an "Argentinian"?

Language is supposed to simplify over time, not get more complicated, people!


The esteemed Mr. George Carlin would like a word with you.
 
2013-01-03 05:53:06 PM  

jamspoon: Here's a fun explanation of the history of the islands

http://www.fleetstreetfox.com/2013/01/dear-argentina.html


Bravo!
 
2013-01-03 05:56:13 PM  

Captain Steroid: Is this some sort of Argentinian "right of passage"? Once a generation, they try and usurp the Falklands from the hands of the British?

South America is WEIRD. :/


It's a socialist thing. Every new generation is fed a pack of propaganda about how great their dirt-poor country is, now that the shackles of oppression imposed by the evil corporations have been thrown off. The new generation quickly figures out that it's all bunk (otherwise why are they stuck tilling mud and working in sweatshops?) and decides that the last generation's heroes are really this generation's evil corporate overlords. Like all good socialists, eventually they form a political movement that siezes power, nationalizes all the industries for the greater good, crashes the economy as a direct result, and needs someone to blame for it other than themselves so they can cling to power long enough to make everything better (an effort doomed by the fact that the only actions their socialist moral code will let them take are the ones that keep making everything worse).

Argentina is lucky in this regard, as they have the Falklands as an excuse for why soaking the rich doesn't work, one that's actually within striking distance of their military. As long as the British value the Falklands, the Argentinans can continue to ignore the flaws inherent to socialism forever, at the cost of a humiliating military defeat every 20 to 30 years.
 
2013-01-03 05:56:49 PM  

jso2897: BarkingUnicorn: It's all about the oil, of course.

Ah. I was wondering why the Argentinians would want a rock with some sheep on it so bad.


Now anyway.

The first invasion was because South Americans believe losing face might as well be chopping your dick off. Colonizing might as well equal sleeping with your girlfriend.
 
2013-01-03 05:56:54 PM  

uttertosh: doyner: simplicimus: Anything of value on these islands?

Yes.  British citizenship.

100% A British passport is worth fighting over. The Argentinian one isn't worth the rfid chip embedded in it in comparison.


This. :-) GSTQ
 
2013-01-03 05:57:53 PM  
It's so cute that some of the Brits think they should actually keep the Falklands. Cute like British Dentistry.
 
2013-01-03 05:57:56 PM  

Saiga410: So when is Canada coming for the Northwest Angle? One of these days I will search out why the US has a small slice of land connected to Canada but seperated from the US by Lake of the Woods. It never made sense.


And there's Point Roberts too, but that one sorta makes a bit more sense than the Northwest Angle...
 
2013-01-03 05:58:33 PM  

Latinwolf: Argentina got it's independence in 1810, however the islands were not a part of that back then.



The UK first laid claim to them in 1690, when they were entirely uninhabited.
Like many other places the UK did this with, the Dutch had actually found and mapped them first (1600), said 'meh' and just sailed on.

Either way, there's no real history to support there ever having been much of an Argentine claim to the islands, and if they try to take them again they'll get another smackdown.
 
2013-01-03 05:59:12 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: So does the Monroe Doctrine or NATO membership take precedence here? Or do they cancel each other out?


Last time we sat it out other than providing the Brits with some munitions IIRC.
 
2013-01-03 05:59:17 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Saiga410: So when is Canada coming for the Northwest Angle? One of these days I will search out why the US has a small slice of land connected to Canada but seperated from the US by Lake of the Woods. It never made sense.

Wikipedia is your friend.


Ah so politicos and geographers drawing maps before we ever knew what was there.
 
2013-01-03 06:00:39 PM  
It also bases its claim on the islands' proximity to the South American mainland. The islands' capital, Port Stanley, lies about 1,180 miles (1,898km) from the Argentine capital Buenos Aires.

Well, shiat, you could almost jump to it!
 
2013-01-03 06:01:10 PM  

Saiga410: So when is Canada coming for the Northwest Angle? One of these days I will search out why the US has a small slice of land connected to Canada but seperated from the US by Lake of the Woods. It never made sense.


A better question is, why does Canada get to have a Canada attached to our America? [glares menacingly to the north]

/hee hee! flame on, hosers!
//honh honh! commencez la flamme, opérateurs de tuyaux!
 
2013-01-03 06:01:31 PM  

Medic Zero: DoBeDoBeDo: So does the Monroe Doctrine or NATO membership take precedence here? Or do they cancel each other out?

Last time we sat it out other than providing the Brits with some munitions IIRC.


That's because last time we had the Soviets to knock us down if the thing escalated. I don't think we'll have the same problem if it happened again.
 
2013-01-03 06:01:48 PM  

Lunchlady: Philip Francis Queeg: LargeCanine: The Falklands is not even close to Argentina. Nor has Argentina actually ever owned them.

They're a helluva lot closer to Argentina than they are to Great Britain.

So? Hawaii is closer to Mexico than the US. Cuba used to be a US possession (for far longer than the Falklands was Argentinian, errr, Spanish) and is less than 100 miles away, do we get Cuba because it's nearby? Puerto Rico is closer to the Dominican than Florida, should we cede it?

The citizens of the Falklands voted to remain British, let them.


Cuba was never a US possession. Google "Teller Amendment"
 
2013-01-03 06:01:49 PM  
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