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(LA Times)   "The Avengers" voted most overrated movie of 2012   (latimes.com) divider line 97
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2013-01-03 01:33:31 PM
11 votes:
I only saw about three theatrical releases.  One was "The Avengers" and it exceeded my expectations.  It was a farking group superhero movie.  It had a lot of ways it could have sucked.  It was great.

Fark this thread.
2013-01-03 01:15:41 PM
9 votes:
Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.
2013-01-03 01:42:31 PM
7 votes:
I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.
2013-01-03 03:35:38 PM
5 votes:
A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.
2013-01-03 01:17:10 PM
5 votes:
The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen
2013-01-03 04:38:04 PM
3 votes:
Oh man. 2600 respondents in an online poll that had only 7 choices out of all the movies of 2012? Choices that didn't even include some of the biggest movies of the year like Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall? How very scientific.
2013-01-03 03:29:05 PM
3 votes:

unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.


This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html
2013-01-03 02:20:18 PM
3 votes:

Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


Agreed 110%.  I loved Avengers.  Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie.  It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck through.
2013-01-03 01:49:37 PM
3 votes:
I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin along!"
2013-01-03 01:40:16 PM
3 votes:
I was waiting for a good avengers movie since I was 5.  It was great.
2013-01-03 09:24:34 PM
2 votes:

Techhell: Mugato: Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.

I agree. This doesn't mean that the Avengers deserves the accolades that fanboys are giving it, nor does it mean that the movie doesn't deserve to be called overrated. It was a far better movie in nearly all aspects than any of the Transformers movies... but the defenses are similar. When the defenses are similar for crappy movies like the Transformers movies as for a supposedly "Great" movie like defenders claim the Avengers was, then that should be a red flag that the movie isn't as great as it could be.

/If someone is defending two actress with "She is a redhead with boobs!" where one is Kathy Griffin and the other is Christina Hendricks... they might want to rethink the "She is a redhead with boobs!" defense.


I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is. So given that it was a movie about a collection of mutants fighting robot/aliens, I think it was done about as well as it could have. And unlike Transformers, it managed to put in some likable characters  IMO.
2013-01-03 06:21:17 PM
2 votes:

proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?


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2013-01-03 04:54:41 PM
2 votes:
Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?
2013-01-03 04:53:38 PM
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.


See the movie it is based on. The Raid: Redemption. It's an Indonesian movie that takes place in modern day with no comic book heros. Very very good. And very very violent. A++ would watch again.
2013-01-03 04:48:04 PM
2 votes:
"The Avengers" voted most overrated movie of 2012

The Avengers was critically acclaimed and went on to become the third highest grossing movie of all time. So of course that guaranteed someone was going to vote it the most overrated.
2013-01-03 04:43:51 PM
2 votes:
StopLurkListen:

Remember that Loki's pokey-stick was influencing them all to violence at the time.  He may have had relative control over the Hulk at that point, unless it was incited like that.  You could also make the argument that his choosing to Hulk out allows him that measure of control whereas just getting angry/scared/almost dead would just be a pure primal reaction.
2013-01-03 03:22:28 PM
2 votes:

Sybarite: I guess it depends on your definitions. For disparity between critical praise and my enjoyment of a film, I'd have to vote for Life of Pi. It felt like when I wasn't being hit over the head with CGI effects, I was being hit over the head with THIS IS THE MESSAGE. To call Life of Pi ham-handed is an insult to both ham and hands.


I agree with this.  While it was a beautiful flim and the best and most convincing use of CGI I've seen it was a simplistic spiritual unification parable stretched over too much time.  I would still reccomend it for the visuals alone.
2013-01-03 02:38:06 PM
2 votes:

Errk: Award worthy....

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I, uh... Well, heck, I really hated that character. She and Hawkeye were utter bores and the actors didn't even seem to have an interest in being there. Nice to look at, but giving them so much dialogue and screen time compared to the big four was a huge mistake.
2013-01-03 02:05:52 PM
2 votes:
"The Avengers" is fun, but that's all. There is virtually no plot. The Avengers get together with relative ease, have a big fight, and all is well. Absolutely entertaining, but not the great movie that so many people have made it out to be. THAT said, not all movies have to be some epic, life-changing story and being just entertaining is more than enough.
2013-01-03 01:17:15 PM
2 votes:

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I like yours better than mine.

/Dredd was surprisingly good.
2013-01-03 01:11:40 PM
2 votes:
Bad movie, but "most overrated" would have to go to Skyfall.
2013-01-05 05:16:03 AM
1 votes:

8 inches: Z-clipped: 8 inches: I'm not sure it gets any simpler than that. Now, if you STILL don't understand how racist that comment was, just imagine if a white person had said that about black people.

When are you knuckleheads going to get it through your skulls that this is not an appropriate blanket "test" for racism? Racism is a complex cultural issue, not a coin with two sides. I get that you have a vested interest in misunderstanding the subject; it allows you to oversimplify and try to pretend that racism doesn't exist. I get that you think it's unfair that "those people" have a "card they can play" whenever you do or say something that you think is fine, but everyone else with a brain in their head finds unacceptable. I get that you have serious limitations when it comes to empathy. But for fark's sake.... if you're smart enough to turn on your computer, navigate the web, and bang words out on a keyboard, you should be smart enough to understand that racism isn't a "game" you can "win" by painting yourself as a victim.

If you are white, male, and American, you are not, and never have been an oppressed minority. You were born into your culture with numerous overwhelming advantages. Quit your farking whining. You look like a fool.

And I didn't see Django, but if you're empathizing with white slave owners in the movie, or with the Nazis in Inglorious Basterds for that matter, there's something seriously wrong with you.

Like you said, you didn't see the movie.


Like he said, it sounds like there's something seriously wrong with you.
2013-01-04 01:17:15 PM
1 votes:

HighOnCraic:


I do t know what that is, but I would really like to know more.
2013-01-04 12:55:17 PM
1 votes:
TDKR was dull. Just... Dull. How can you take a great Batman story like Knightfall and turn it into a dull, plodding, self-absorbed movie like this? Bane is nothing like the source character (they might as well have given him a new name) and Catwoman, while not guilty of making groan-worthy puns as usually seen on film, was as much a sadsack as everyone else. Talia's appearance was less of a twist and more of a deus ex, and Bruce was just annoying as hell from start to finish.

Compare that to the animated The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and you'll see what I mean. Why is it that Warner Bros. animation can get DC characters so RIGHT while WB live-action always makes them sad, whiny, BORING and sanctimonious? Young Justice rocks. Pretty much every Batman animated feature rocks. Even the Superman animated features beat the shiat out of live-action stuff! If you haven't seen Superman vs. The Elite, you should check it out.

Meanwhile, The Avengers was fun! It was a dumb movie, sure, but it was a rollercoaster ride, not a long tunnel of self-introspection and deep psychological investigation. I enjoyed Avengers because it didn't try to be more than it is. Superheroes, by definition, are ridiculous. Why try to Nolanize them and make them 'serious' to the point of removing all the fun from it?

I have my gripes with Whedon, but he handled Avengers perfectly. Frankly, I think it's a shame he can't have a crack at a Marvel Studios version of Spider-Man, and from me (major Spidey fan) that's high praise for his directing talents.

Actually, if Marvel develops Starfox as a character (no, not the stupid Nintendo anthropomorphic fox, either) I'd like to see what Whedon does with him. He'd also be awesome at a She-Hulk movie, I think.

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As for Nolan, I like him. Some of his movies are among my favorites, but his Batman was dull as dried beans, and I would like to see him stay away from superheroes from now on.

I just really don't get why Timm and Dini can't have a crack at a live action Batman.
2013-01-04 12:06:29 PM
1 votes:
I loved it. So why am I supposed to care that people are upset that I did?
2013-01-04 11:24:49 AM
1 votes:

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).


He is one of those guys that is just good at whatever they ask him to do. Love or hate the movies you can't say he wasn't good in The Chronicles of Riddick, Doom, and Priest.
2013-01-04 09:58:51 AM
1 votes:
I liked Avengers but the problem is I'm like a 6 on the nerd scale and that movie was an 8 or 9. And Prometheus is pretty much universally regarded as "could and should have been much better than it turned out", so I don't know how that's overrated. Some people are confusing overrated and overhyped like they often do.
2013-01-04 09:57:00 AM
1 votes:

RaceBoatDriver: Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.

Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.


Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.
2013-01-04 09:52:36 AM
1 votes:

saintstryfe: Prometheus wins this one hands-down. It was built up to everything and was in every respect terrible.


Wait.

This is a perfect example of someone who is upset because a movie they like is being called overrated even though it's clear that most people agree that it is not overrated because of the amount of people that agree with him have shown that it isn't overrated except for people that were polled by the L.A. Times (takes a breath) -AND will go out of their way to say that a movie like Prometheus which definitely does NOT have a history of high ratings is somehow 'overrated.' But they WILL proceed to pick on the ugly kid anyways for being ugly because everyone already knows he is ugly and the person who is upset just got schooled out in the parking lot by a bunch of kids he doesn't like and has no idea how to react to it so naturally he attacks the easiest target.

If a movie is anticipated and turns out to be fare or less than fare it is acceptable that you might think that they film was 'over-hyped.'

Nobody is claiming that Prometheus is an overrated movie. (Except you and some other whiny biatches in this thread who have zero reading comprehension which may also be why you liked The Avengers so much) In fact people are pretty pissed off about it. Hence the LOW ratings.

EVERYBODY is saying that The Avengers is the BIBLE.

The fact that you are mixing 'over-hyped' with 'overrated' is similar to the thinking- 'You can't go into a movie expecting Shakespeare!' -but at the same time foam at the mouth and wish death upon those who do not agree with you that it IS the Bible.

It's spawned from the same logic.

The logic that suggests 'You knew what you were getting into.' It's the same as suggesting that there are really no such things as good action movies because of the fact that you have to handicap yourself as if you were playing a game of golf.

You're going around trying to tell people they are not watching movies properly and using it as a defense when people call your favorite movie 'overrated.'

There is NO WAY IN HELL that it is the 131st all time best movies ever, and is in NO WAY better than:

The Big Lebowski (1998)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Ran (1985)
The Deer Hunter (1978)
Cool Hand Luke (1967)
Sin City (2005)
The Gold Rush (1925)
Strangers on a Train (1951)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
It Happened One Night (1934)
Jaws (1975)
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Platoon (1986)
Hotel Rwanda (2004)
The Thing (1982)
High Noon (1952)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
Casino (1995)
Trainspotting (1996)
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
Warrior (2011)
Annie Hall (1977)
The Secret in Their Eyes (2009)
Notorious (1946)
Good Will Hunting (1997)
Gone with the Wind (1939)
The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
The King's Speech (2010)
Into the Wild (2007)
Life of Brian (1979)
My Neighbor Totoro (1988)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Finding Nemo (2003)
How to Train Your Dragon (2010)
Dial M for Murder (1954)
The Big Sleep (1946)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Terminator (1984)
Network (1976)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Stand by Me (1986)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Donnie Darko (2001)
Black Swan (2010)
Groundhog Day (1993)
Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
Twelve Monkeys (1995)
Amores Perros (2000)
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
Mary and Max (2009)
The 400 Blows (1959)
Life of Pi (2012)
Persona (1966)
The Graduate (1967)
Gandhi (1982)
The Killing (1956)
Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
The Princess Bride (1987)
8½ (1963)
The Artist (2011/I)
Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
Argo (2012)
The Hustler (1961)
A Beautiful Mind (2001)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
La strada (1954)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Rocky (1976)
The Wild Bunch (1969)
Anatomy of a Murder (1959)
Stalag 17 (1953)
The Exorcist (1973)
Sleuth (1972)
Rope (1948)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
District 9 (2009)
The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012)
Infernal Affairs (2002)
Stalker (1979)
Roman Holiday (1953)
The Truman Show (1998)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Ip Man (2008)
Ratatouille (2007)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (2011)
In the Name of the Father (1993)
Monsters, Inc. (2001)
A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
Star Trek (2009)
Incendies (2010)
Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Harvey (1950)
La Haine (1995)
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
The Wrestler (2008)
Rain Man (1988)
Shutter Island (2010)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (2003)
Nosferatu (1922)
Manhattan (1979)
Mystic River (2003)
3 Idiots (2009)
Battleship Potemkin (1925)
Big Fish (2003)
Papillon (1973)
Jurassic Park (1993)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943)
Castle in the Sky (1986)
The Untouchables (1987)
Bringing Up Baby (1938)
In the Heat of the Night


In fact it is probably the most highly overrated movie that has ever existed.

Where is Prometheus on this list?
2013-01-04 09:07:56 AM
1 votes:
Dredd was BY FAR the biggest surprise of the year for me.

I know nothing about the comic books and I never even saw the 95 flick that's supposedly a cinematic abortion, but holy shiat, Dredd 2012 pretty much kicks your teeth in with hardcore violence and a nasty attitude. It reminded me a lot of when I saw Robocop for the first time in 87.

I can't recommend it enough.
2013-01-04 08:30:39 AM
1 votes:

Decillion: Exactly. This is supposedly a plot hole even before the end. "How did he get back to Gotham without money/resources?" This is a case where the answer actually is, "He's Batman". Of course he's prepared. For me it's a memorized phone number + hidden accounts on each continent to reach the type of people who flew him out of China in TDK. I feel bad for people who don't even try to fill in the blanks during movies and need everything to happen on screen.


My personal opinion is it could have been a small moment of levity before the climax "Bruce, how did you get back to gotham?" "Frequent Flier Miles. Had a ton of them."

DKR is a good film, not amazing. Not as good as TDK.

Avengers was amazing. It was accessible, it was fun to watch, it was legitimately funny at points (I understood that!), and it had some heart. I'm eager to see more Marvel films despite being an avowed DC fanboy.

Prometheus wins this one hands-down. It was built up to everything and was in every respect terrible.
2013-01-04 04:27:43 AM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will?


The end of the last Hulk movie explained this. In fact, the last Hulk movie (the Ed Norton one) was almost entirely about this. He started gaining control of the creature by a combination of biofeedback control, just straight-up getting a handle on his emotions, and focusing on keeping his intellect in control while the beast rolls rather than trying to suppress it entirely. Sometimes he has a pretty good level of control and sometimes not so much, and he's closer to mentally stable when he lets it out himself than when someone else provokes his rage.

I know it wasn't the greatest movie or anything, but you could have at least watched it before biatching about it on the internet.
2013-01-04 02:04:17 AM
1 votes:

Suede head: Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.


Distasteful, no.  Boring, yes.  The big, climactic battle was superfluous, and the deus ex machina of a nuke stopping the entire bad guy army was weak.  Really, the bad guy army was pathetic - were they organic or droids robots isn't even the biggest problem.
2013-01-04 01:59:39 AM
1 votes:

way south: I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.


Jesus. What you're describing is "overhyped" NOT "overrated." I'll stop exercising proper reading comprehension on the internet now, since apparently it's useless.
2013-01-03 11:25:51 PM
1 votes:
Avengers sucked... -BU, BU, BU, BU, BUT PROMETHEUS!!!!!

Hold on. You have to slow down. You're losing it. You have to take a breath. Listen to yourself. You're connecting a movie I had with a movie you might have had and some religious hogwash. You want to find the Avengers in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. Avengers from a mere street corner to your front door. Avengers while you're riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with the Avengers, you will filter everything else out and find the Avengers everywhere.

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2013-01-03 11:25:05 PM
1 votes:

Techhell: Dingleberry Dickwad: Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.

Which is a totally valid criticism of Transformers while entirely missing the point I made. The main defenses of Avengers are the same defenses that are typically used to defend Transformers  - that the movies made lots ...


Uh no,

Transformers = The bots were the stars, not the humans.
Avengers = The heroes were the stars.

That looks very obvious to me.
2013-01-03 10:21:30 PM
1 votes:

sonnyboy11: Screw you both. I loved the Hobbit. Pacing was fine and acting good. Consider your geek cards revoked.


I'm with this guy. Hobbit was great. Just don't go in expecting it to be LOTR. It's the story of a bunch of guys gonna kill a dragon an' get rich. And Arthur Dent is a a really good Bilbo.
2013-01-03 10:12:35 PM
1 votes:

Wayne 985: Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is.

How do you define "executes"? In other words, do you mean how well they can take the material and make it great or how accurate they stay to the material? (I hope that makes sense.)

If it's the latter, I respectfully disagree. Some artistic license is often required to make something work on the big screen.


Well I'm not really a comic book guy so I have the advantage of not giving a shiat how faithful a comic book movie is to the source material. I do know enough about comics to know that none of the villains in the Nolan movies were anything like their comic book counter parts but they were still good films.

As for The Avengers, I just meant they were given a premise of 7 or so goofy characters with an even goofier villain and they managed to make it work. Every character got enough screen time, there was pretty amusing dialog and the action scenes were executed well. It could have been a lot worse.
2013-01-03 09:39:30 PM
1 votes:

Eunuch Provocateur: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.

The next time you have a few hours to spare you should check out The Assassination of Jesse James.


Word. This is a seriously good movie, and Renner nailed his part.

/I don't usually care for westerns, but this one was great.
2013-01-03 09:11:07 PM
1 votes:

Yotto: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.
....
Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.


Banner has a split personality, and anger management issues. He cannot control the Hulk, but by this movie he has at least learned to control the transformation for the most part. Ironically, not by trying to control his anger, but by learning to maintain his aggressive feelings to a level that will not trigger the reaction out of turn. Which gels nicely between the last scene of the Incredible Hulk with Norton, and Ruffalo's performance in the Avengers.
2013-01-03 09:07:40 PM
1 votes:

Mugato: Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.


I agree. This doesn't mean that the Avengers deserves the accolades that fanboys are giving it, nor does it mean that the movie doesn't deserve to be called overrated. It was a far better movie in nearly all aspects than any of the Transformers movies... but the defenses are similar. When the defenses are similar for crappy movies like the Transformers movies as for a supposedly "Great" movie like defenders claim the Avengers was, then that should be a red flag that the movie isn't as great as it could be.

/If someone is defending two actress with "She is a redhead with boobs!" where one is Kathy Griffin and the other is Christina Hendricks... they might want to rethink the "She is a redhead with boobs!" defense.
2013-01-03 08:53:04 PM
1 votes:

Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers


I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.
2013-01-03 08:52:30 PM
1 votes:

Dingleberry Dickwad: Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.


Which is a totally valid criticism of Transformers while entirely missing the point I made. The main defenses of Avengers are the same defenses that are typically used to defend Transformers  - that the movies made lots of money and that they were supposed to be popcorn movies.

/Hipsters gonna hipster isn't a defense of the movie, it's an attack on the critics of the movie, hence why it's not listed as a defense of the movie even while it's employed quite often in this thread.
2013-01-03 08:21:30 PM
1 votes:
The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers
2013-01-03 08:06:57 PM
1 votes:

Eunuch Provocateur: CSM101: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.

Except for the end, when it stands around and takes orders?


The Hulk always had a persona of it's own, and depending on what particular persona it is, it has access to banner's intellect. He was only goes mindlessly smashy when something triggers it, like say, a sudden transformation.
2013-01-03 07:51:21 PM
1 votes:

ArminiusTheGreat: Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.


More likely the fanboys who were terrified that the movie was going to be a complete failure and it actually worked as a decent movie. (though maybe there's a bit of fanboy nostalgia in there too, though the Avengers comics weren't all that popular compared to X-Men and Spiderman and Wolverine.)

NOT a great movie. Not even one of the top 10 movies of 2012. But it worked, it was decent, and can be a pretty decent basis for future movies.
2013-01-03 07:43:39 PM
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: It was so...uninteresting...I don't even care if they do try to fix or resolve it with a sequel.


So when the sequel DOES come out, and you DON'T watch it, and it DOES explain everything, can we count on this being the reason why you suck at life so much?
2013-01-03 07:39:45 PM
1 votes:
Gwynth Paltrow should get punched in the face.
2013-01-03 07:30:27 PM
1 votes:
MIB 3 was better
2013-01-03 07:19:01 PM
1 votes:
I'm fairly certain I watched it. But I don't remember anything about it.
2013-01-03 07:07:57 PM
1 votes:

PanicMan: What's wrong with you people? Avengers was fantastic. To have that many major characters fit together in a story that well is an art. And be funny. And have good action. And oh by the way ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD HULK! Man, and I thought I was a bitter asshole. You guys take the cake. And no I've never been a comic book fan.

Dark Knight Rises? That was merely not as great as it could have been. A good edit could fix that.

But Prometheus was so bad it hurt.


You know how when you touch a woman's boobies and the feel like a bag of sand?
2013-01-03 07:04:15 PM
1 votes:

gingerjet: Wayne 985: The first Thor was godawful

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/what movie did you watch?


as i've said elsewhere, i am painfully straight, but godDAMN that is a fine fine hunk of man-flesh...
2013-01-03 07:02:47 PM
1 votes:
What's wrong with you people? Avengers was fantastic. To have that many major characters fit together in a story that well is an art. And be funny. And have good action. And oh by the way ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD HULK! Man, and I thought I was a bitter asshole. You guys take the cake. And no I've never been a comic book fan.

Dark Knight Rises? That was merely not as great as it could have been. A good edit could fix that.

But Prometheus was so bad it hurt.
2013-01-03 07:00:30 PM
1 votes:

vrax: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

Maybe it's because I haven't read The Hobbit since I was a kid, but I found the movie to be completely enjoyable. I wished they'd just show all 9 hours in one sitting. I would have stayed. I have lots of patience though.


I must be the only person in the universe that meets the following criteria:

1. Read the hobbit and LOTR, completely
B. wasn't bored by them
Ɣ. Loved the hobbit movie and all three LOTR movies
2013-01-03 06:45:54 PM
1 votes:

browneye: "The Avengers" voted most overrated movie of 2012

The Avengers was critically acclaimed and went on to become the third highest grossing movie of all time. So of course that guaranteed someone was going to vote it the most overrated.


The Avengers was fun which is what I want in a movie
Prometheus was crap and after the first 10 to 15 mins I was rooting for everyone in it to die since they were too stupid to live
2013-01-03 06:36:24 PM
1 votes:

Snark Shark II: Champion of the Sun: Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.

I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.

yeah, don't get me wrong, movie needed more explanation. I'm thinking he was planning on doing more in the next movie but yeah there was a lot of context missing and what looked awesome in a trailer was a mess of a script onscreen.

/ running from a rolling spaceship
// don't even think to run left or right to get out of the way
/// stupid, stupid, stupid.


it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out? Now I understand why avengers was so popular. Hold on Bruce, let's put this in terms Hulk can understand
2013-01-03 06:27:11 PM
1 votes:
Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.
2013-01-03 06:16:27 PM
1 votes:
are there any good movies any more?

and,

are there any movies any more that aren't comics? seriously, what's with all the comics?
2013-01-03 06:15:50 PM
1 votes:

Wayne 985: The first Thor was godawful


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/what movie did you watch?
2013-01-03 06:00:32 PM
1 votes:
Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.
2013-01-03 05:57:27 PM
1 votes:

buttery_shame_cave: i want to know if there was a cut bit where thor picks himself out of some rubble, walks over, claps hulk on the back hard enough to stagger him and says 'first round's on me.'


You're thinking of this movie.

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also a super classic
2013-01-03 05:37:49 PM
1 votes:

moothemagiccow: Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it


If they ran perpendicular instead of parallel, I may have liked it.
2013-01-03 05:34:18 PM
1 votes:
Everyone is forgetting the second best part.


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Hulk made that movie
2013-01-03 05:32:01 PM
1 votes:
Isn't the concept of overrated a just failure to manage expectations on your part?
2013-01-03 05:22:59 PM
1 votes:
Avengers was a ton of fun. I enjoyed it both times I watched it.

Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

Skyfall was the most overrated however. Javier Bardem's 'evil plot' was undewhelming which he fails to complete but then somehow accidentally succeeds in the end. I do not see what people saw in this movie.
2013-01-03 05:21:18 PM
1 votes:

way south: I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.


So when you go see the Avengers you expect crap, get crap, enjoy crap.

Therefore, everyone wants crap.
2013-01-03 05:20:06 PM
1 votes:
Skyfall was EASILY the most overhyped. People were raving about this 10/10 film that was really a 7/10 film with a horrible third act.
2013-01-03 05:18:34 PM
1 votes:

sidcart42: At what point do we get to vote on the term "overrated" and the people who use it?

I think we can start approaching it as the physiological condition that generates the reaction.


It's called, "Being an insecure asshole." And "Deriving self-worth from literally any opportunity to distinguish yourself from the people you know."


Oh, look how cool and edgy you are.
2013-01-03 05:16:58 PM
1 votes:
What a piss poor poll. The following were the options:

The Avengers
Prometheus
Brave
Ted
Project X
The Master
Cloud Atlas

Three of these movies I've never even heard of and The Avengers is the only one I've actually seen. Why ignore all the bigger name movies that came out this year like The Hunger Games, Batman, Twilight BD Part 2 and Skyfall?
2013-01-03 05:16:03 PM
1 votes:

brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


Just stop. You're a farking idiot.
2013-01-03 05:05:37 PM
1 votes:

T.rex: People frequently point to that scene when talking about that movie, though really, because its pretty much the only thing that stands out as a palatable occurence... Everything, just sorta blends together in a mish-mash.


Action-wise, sure. But it's not really an action scene. It's a sight-gag.

There were a whole buttload of memorable dialog scenes in the movie.

Most actions movies are like that. The part you remember is not the action but something else.
2013-01-03 05:04:32 PM
1 votes:
www.troll.me
2013-01-03 05:01:47 PM
1 votes:
Lots of mewling quims in this thread.

/got nuttin'
//except the boring observation that the biggest box office success of the year will invariably be regarded as the most over-rated
2013-01-03 04:57:34 PM
1 votes:
Yeah Avengers is NOWHERE NEAR "most overrated" of 2012.

Then again, "overrated" is a stupid term anyway. Highly rated means that people like it, but overrated means that some people like it more than other people and the other people disagree with the people who like it?

If what we really mean is "overhyped" then it's still not even close

There were a shiatton of major movies in 2012:
- Dark Knight Rises (now THAT is easily the most "overrated")
- Amazing Spiderman
- Avengers
- Prometheus
- Dredd
- MIB 3
- The Hobbit
- Whatever the Pixar movie of the year was (Brave)
- Total Recall (can we call that one most "overhyped"?)
- I still feel like I'm forgetting about 12 movies that would have been considered "major blockbusters" if they weren't lost in the fray
2013-01-03 04:55:38 PM
1 votes:

sidcart42: At what point do we get to vote on the term "overrated" and the people who use it?

I think we can start approaching it as the physiological condition that generates the reaction.


It's called, "Being an insecure asshole." And "Deriving self-worth from literally any opportunity to distinguish yourself from the people you know."


So anyone who didn't enjoy a popular movie is mentally ill?
2013-01-03 04:48:18 PM
1 votes:

labman: Shadowknight: Agreed 110%. I loved Avengers. Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie. It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck tumbler through.


Just a boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. What the hell, I'll laugh anyway....bhooohahahahahahohohohaha
2013-01-03 04:47:59 PM
1 votes:

ObeliskToucher: /Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"


Don't get me started there.  I always read the abridged version of Moby Dick, and thought it was a great book.  Then one time a couple years back, I made it my mission to read the unabridged version.  Dear lord, Herman needed an editor.  There were so many parts that were completely unnecessary to the story.  Entire chapters that read like a how-to manual for whaling, discussing diameters for harpoons and various weaves for the ropes.
2013-01-03 04:47:44 PM
1 votes:

ObeliskToucher: Shadowknight: But having never made it past the first book, despite multiple times throughout my life to do so, I just didn't have the reference to really care about the characters I think.

One last experiment for you to try -- read until they meet Tom Bombadil, then skip ahead until Tom and Goldberry disappear. Worked for me...

/Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"


I read LOTR 3 or 4 times when i was a teenager. I went back to read them last year and the Two Towers is just a farking slog. Too much goddamned scenery. Paragraphs about paths they pass and don't take. I don't know how I got through it before.
2013-01-03 04:44:25 PM
1 votes:

unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.


Overrated != movie you didn't like. Nobody had anything good to say about Prometheus.

I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.
2013-01-03 04:42:34 PM
1 votes:

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


The thought behind it is he can control it up to a point, but if it's a fear or adrenaline-induced tranformation (like the fact that he didn't trust anyone on the ship, the scepter was affecting the heroes, and then the sudden explosion)  he has very little control over it. The Hulk enters self-preservation mode instead of kick-all-the-bad-guy's-asses mode that he does later.
2013-01-03 04:26:52 PM
1 votes:

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


I agree. Saw it with the wife earlier this week.

It's good, but they could have easily left about an hour of it on the cutting room floor and the movie wouldn't have suffered one bit.

That was the real strength of the LOTR films. Jackson took a rambling, incoherent mess of a story and pared it down into a (relatively) tight narrative that moves from beginning to end with a purpose. In this case, Jackson took a fairly straight-forward story and added pointless sequences that don't move the story forward.

/yay money!
2013-01-03 03:52:52 PM
1 votes:
I thought The Avengers was pretty good, actually. I think they handled a lot of goofy ass characters at the same time pretty well. The villain was a little weak but overall it was a decent film.
2013-01-03 03:51:04 PM
1 votes:

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


LOTR is horribly written.  The Hobbit gets a pass because it's YA Fiction.  Otherwise, it's really just a travelogue with a dragon thrown in.  For me, it's still kind of a fun book because it doesn't have the gravitas that Tolkein gave everything else he ever wrote.  His universe is incredible--it's just a damn shame he's so bad at writing about it.  He spends as much time describing a blade of grass as he does Eowyn defeating the Witch King.  It's just awful to slog through so I don't blame anyone for not enjoying the books.

The movies, though--your response surprises me.  Unless you're just not a fantasy fan (and there's obviously nothing wrong with that), the LOTR movies were pretty damn good.  Yeah, it dragged in parts (usually during anything involving Arwen) but overall they were done well.  Even RT.com gives all three movies an average of 94%.  Maybe your LOTR geek friends have just hyped up Tolkein to the point where you're just tired of it?

In either event, don't see Hobbit.  If you didn't like the three LOTR movies, you'll positively hate The Hobbit.
2013-01-03 03:42:14 PM
1 votes:

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


I'm right there with you, well except I loved the books and LOTR movies. But I have no desire to see The Hobbit. I think it's the blatant cash grab of splitting the single book into another trilogy that just turned me off of it.
2013-01-03 03:39:38 PM
1 votes:

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.
2013-01-03 03:02:18 PM
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin along!"


I seem to remember a few lines in the movie where Hawkeye and Black Widow admit they are out of their class and wonder why they were even going in. But even before the fight, they got to show some of their potential, Black Widow at intelligence/data gathering and Hawkeye shows some ability for planning and organization, since it is quietly implied that he does a lot of the planning of getting manpower, resources for building the gateway and planning the attack on the Helicarrier.
2013-01-03 02:50:51 PM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen


Loved when Iron Man was going to take the archer to the top of the skyscraper and he said "Clinch up, Legolas".

Just watched it last night, loved it.
2013-01-03 02:44:40 PM
1 votes:

Wayne 985: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*

No. No one saw the previews for that and thought it looked remotely good.



I went in with very low expectations-and it was even more atrocious than I'd imagined. It's time-nay, long overdue-for Depp, Burton and Bonham Carter to part ways professionally.
2013-01-03 02:29:30 PM
1 votes:
Award worthy....

images.wikia.com
2013-01-03 02:21:02 PM
1 votes:

serpent_sky: Absolutely entertaining, but not the great movie that so many people have made it out to be.


It could have done with a whole lot less Whedon.
2013-01-03 01:54:19 PM
1 votes:

Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


TDKR was a bit overhyped, but it mostly lived up to its promise. There was good substance to it, which is why I still prefer it.
2013-01-03 01:52:43 PM
1 votes:
I guess it depends on your definitions. For disparity between critical praise and my enjoyment of a film, I'd have to vote for Life of Pi. It felt like when I wasn't being hit over the head with CGI effects, I was being hit over the head with THIS IS THE MESSAGE. To call Life of Pi ham-handed is an insult to both ham and hands.
2013-01-03 01:45:41 PM
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


And Guardians of the Galaxy.
2013-01-03 01:42:13 PM
1 votes:
Prometheus.
Not even a question.
2013-01-03 01:30:40 PM
1 votes:

Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.


But some of the best eye candy assembled on the big screen in ages.
2013-01-03 01:16:50 PM
1 votes:
Sounds right.
2013-01-03 01:12:15 PM
1 votes:
That must mean that Les Miserables wasn't rated well, because it was way worse than Avengers.
 
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