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2013-01-04 02:55:58 AM  

Wayne 985: ArcadianRefugee: The All-Powerful Atheismo: sprawl15: proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?

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Nope, sorry. If people started liking that movie then everyone on this tab would start talking about how much it sucked and how many problems it had.

Uhm, because it wasn't good? Fun, sure -- who doesn't like a guy going nucking futs. But good? Meh.

I thought it was great. Very smart and stylish, though his autism-like behavior did sometimes get annoying.


My big thing is the characters -- if I don't like the characters, it's hard to like the movie. The guy was a douche. I mean, if the point of the movie were "watch all these jerks get what's coming to them", fine. "Watch this bad guy do bad things"? Fine. But when it's "this guy's supposed to be the hero; no, really" and he's a dick, you kind of hope to see him kill everyone, then fall into an active cement mixer filled with broken glass and Drano.

bonobo73: You have to understand that (excluding Blade) any live-action Marvel movie/TV show before 2000 sucked horribly.


See, now we know you're just trolling.

Not saying the others were good, but Blade? Really?
 
2013-01-04 04:18:22 AM  

GAT_00: It could have done with a whole lot less Whedon.


As someone who's never seen more than one episode of anything he's done other than Firefly, (which I loved like a fat kid loves cake), I must confess, I really like Whedon's dialogue. Maybe if you've slogged through Buffy, and Angel, and whatever else he's written (Dollhouse?) you'd have had more than you can stomach, I understand.

Not that it was a great film or anything, but I think the best lines in Avengers had Whedon written all over them.
 
2013-01-04 04:27:43 AM  

Dr Dreidel: That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will?


The end of the last Hulk movie explained this. In fact, the last Hulk movie (the Ed Norton one) was almost entirely about this. He started gaining control of the creature by a combination of biofeedback control, just straight-up getting a handle on his emotions, and focusing on keeping his intellect in control while the beast rolls rather than trying to suppress it entirely. Sometimes he has a pretty good level of control and sometimes not so much, and he's closer to mentally stable when he lets it out himself than when someone else provokes his rage.

I know it wasn't the greatest movie or anything, but you could have at least watched it before biatching about it on the internet.
 
2013-01-04 04:33:35 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Dr Dreidel: That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will?

The end of the last Hulk movie explained this. In fact, the last Hulk movie (the Ed Norton one) was almost entirely about this. He started gaining control of the creature by a combination of biofeedback control, just straight-up getting a handle on his emotions, and focusing on keeping his intellect in control while the beast rolls rather than trying to suppress it entirely. Sometimes he has a pretty good level of control and sometimes not so much, and he's closer to mentally stable when he lets it out himself than when someone else provokes his rage.

I know it wasn't the greatest movie or anything, but you could have at least watched it before biatching about it on the internet.


I watched that movie once, after the Avengers came out, and was very underwhelmed.
 
2013-01-04 04:47:05 AM  

Champion of the Sun: And it's overrated because all summer the Internet talked about how it was the greatest movie ever.


I don't usually fall back on the what-did-you-expect gambit, but c'mon... don't 13-year-old caucasian boys outnumber everyone else on the internet like, 5:1?

moothemagiccow: it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out?


There's a huge difference between intentionally leaving certain things up to the viewer to decide (Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Thing, Primer, Dark City), and being lazy because you want to generate dialogue among the dimwitted and aren't skilled enough to write a good story all the way through. (Prometheus, Donnie Darko, anything by David Lynch).
 
2013-01-04 04:52:29 AM  

Errk: Award worthy....

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What is this "The Avengers" movie people are talking about?  The only movie I saw was "Scarlett Johansson In Skin-Tight Leather", which was riveting every time she was in a scene.
 
2013-01-04 04:54:38 AM  

8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.


Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.
 
2013-01-04 05:00:08 AM  

Z-clipped: moothemagiccow: it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out?

There's a huge difference between intentionally leaving certain things up to the viewer to decide (Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Thing, Primer, Dark City), and being lazy because you want to generate dialogue among the dimwitted and aren't skilled enough to write a good story all the way through. (Prometheus, Donnie Darko, anything by David Lynch).


Seriously? That paragraph tells me that you are trying to fail at life. Don't fail at life.
 
2013-01-04 06:06:32 AM  
Wheadon needs a script editor. Someone to stand over his shoulder and say "you don't have to drag that aircraft rotor scene on quite that long. Seriously, stop it with the damn rotors.". It was meant to be a mindless popcorn movie and it was enjoyable, so it lived up to expectations. Prometheus promised to be a work of art of sorts and that went all kinds of wrong.
 
2013-01-04 06:49:25 AM  
This thread is full of jerkoffs personifying the Louis CK "Everything is Amazing and Nobody's Happy" bit.
 
2013-01-04 07:44:23 AM  

FoxKelfonne: Oh man. 2600 respondents in an online poll that had only 7 choices out of all the movies of 2012? Choices that didn't even include some of the biggest movies of the year like Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall? How very scientific.


Glad to see I wasn't the only one paying attention to that part.

/Except the actual movies named part.
 
2013-01-04 08:30:39 AM  

Decillion: Exactly. This is supposedly a plot hole even before the end. "How did he get back to Gotham without money/resources?" This is a case where the answer actually is, "He's Batman". Of course he's prepared. For me it's a memorized phone number + hidden accounts on each continent to reach the type of people who flew him out of China in TDK. I feel bad for people who don't even try to fill in the blanks during movies and need everything to happen on screen.


My personal opinion is it could have been a small moment of levity before the climax "Bruce, how did you get back to gotham?" "Frequent Flier Miles. Had a ton of them."

DKR is a good film, not amazing. Not as good as TDK.

Avengers was amazing. It was accessible, it was fun to watch, it was legitimately funny at points (I understood that!), and it had some heart. I'm eager to see more Marvel films despite being an avowed DC fanboy.

Prometheus wins this one hands-down. It was built up to everything and was in every respect terrible.
 
2013-01-04 08:41:08 AM  
Most disappointing: Prometheus.
Most overrated: The Master.
 
2013-01-04 08:47:11 AM  

Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.


Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.
 
2013-01-04 08:47:58 AM  

Z-clipped: There's a huge difference between intentionally leaving certain things up to the viewer to decide (Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Thing, Primer, Dark City), and being lazy because you want to generate dialogue among the dimwitted and aren't skilled enough to write a good story all the way through. (Prometheus, Donnie Darko, anything by David Lynch).


Funny enough, I'm just starting to try and understand David Lynch but otherwise I completely agree with you. Science ficition is supposed to be smart. It's the perfect genre to question society and religion and morality. Not taking that opportunity but instead using the genre as an excuse for a crappy story is sad. You can technobabble to get to your point, but you have to have a point to get to.

/"What does God need with a starship?" is one of the greatest lines in any movie ever.
 
2013-01-04 09:07:54 AM  
When someone says "This is overrated," they might as well be saying "I don't like this thing that's popular and I don't understand why it's popular" When someone says "This is underrated," they might as well be saying "I like this thing that's not popular and I don't understand why it's not popular"
 
2013-01-04 09:07:56 AM  
Dredd was BY FAR the biggest surprise of the year for me.

I know nothing about the comic books and I never even saw the 95 flick that's supposedly a cinematic abortion, but holy shiat, Dredd 2012 pretty much kicks your teeth in with hardcore violence and a nasty attitude. It reminded me a lot of when I saw Robocop for the first time in 87.

I can't recommend it enough.
 
2013-01-04 09:40:07 AM  

moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.


That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.
 
2013-01-04 09:52:36 AM  

saintstryfe: Prometheus wins this one hands-down. It was built up to everything and was in every respect terrible.


Wait.

This is a perfect example of someone who is upset because a movie they like is being called overrated even though it's clear that most people agree that it is not overrated because of the amount of people that agree with him have shown that it isn't overrated except for people that were polled by the L.A. Times (takes a breath) -AND will go out of their way to say that a movie like Prometheus which definitely does NOT have a history of high ratings is somehow 'overrated.' But they WILL proceed to pick on the ugly kid anyways for being ugly because everyone already knows he is ugly and the person who is upset just got schooled out in the parking lot by a bunch of kids he doesn't like and has no idea how to react to it so naturally he attacks the easiest target.

If a movie is anticipated and turns out to be fare or less than fare it is acceptable that you might think that they film was 'over-hyped.'

Nobody is claiming that Prometheus is an overrated movie. (Except you and some other whiny biatches in this thread who have zero reading comprehension which may also be why you liked The Avengers so much) In fact people are pretty pissed off about it. Hence the LOW ratings.

EVERYBODY is saying that The Avengers is the BIBLE.

The fact that you are mixing 'over-hyped' with 'overrated' is similar to the thinking- 'You can't go into a movie expecting Shakespeare!' -but at the same time foam at the mouth and wish death upon those who do not agree with you that it IS the Bible.

It's spawned from the same logic.

The logic that suggests 'You knew what you were getting into.' It's the same as suggesting that there are really no such things as good action movies because of the fact that you have to handicap yourself as if you were playing a game of golf.

You're going around trying to tell people they are not watching movies properly and using it as a defense when people call your favorite movie 'overrated.'

There is NO WAY IN HELL that it is the 131st all time best movies ever, and is in NO WAY better than:

The Big Lebowski (1998)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Ran (1985)
The Deer Hunter (1978)
Cool Hand Luke (1967)
Sin City (2005)
The Gold Rush (1925)
Strangers on a Train (1951)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
It Happened One Night (1934)
Jaws (1975)
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Platoon (1986)
Hotel Rwanda (2004)
The Thing (1982)
High Noon (1952)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
Casino (1995)
Trainspotting (1996)
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
Warrior (2011)
Annie Hall (1977)
The Secret in Their Eyes (2009)
Notorious (1946)
Good Will Hunting (1997)
Gone with the Wind (1939)
The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
The King's Speech (2010)
Into the Wild (2007)
Life of Brian (1979)
My Neighbor Totoro (1988)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Finding Nemo (2003)
How to Train Your Dragon (2010)
Dial M for Murder (1954)
The Big Sleep (1946)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Terminator (1984)
Network (1976)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Stand by Me (1986)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Donnie Darko (2001)
Black Swan (2010)
Groundhog Day (1993)
Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
Twelve Monkeys (1995)
Amores Perros (2000)
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
Mary and Max (2009)
The 400 Blows (1959)
Life of Pi (2012)
Persona (1966)
The Graduate (1967)
Gandhi (1982)
The Killing (1956)
Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
The Princess Bride (1987)
8½ (1963)
The Artist (2011/I)
Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
Argo (2012)
The Hustler (1961)
A Beautiful Mind (2001)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
La strada (1954)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Rocky (1976)
The Wild Bunch (1969)
Anatomy of a Murder (1959)
Stalag 17 (1953)
The Exorcist (1973)
Sleuth (1972)
Rope (1948)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
District 9 (2009)
The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012)
Infernal Affairs (2002)
Stalker (1979)
Roman Holiday (1953)
The Truman Show (1998)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Ip Man (2008)
Ratatouille (2007)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (2011)
In the Name of the Father (1993)
Monsters, Inc. (2001)
A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
Star Trek (2009)
Incendies (2010)
Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Harvey (1950)
La Haine (1995)
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
The Wrestler (2008)
Rain Man (1988)
Shutter Island (2010)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (2003)
Nosferatu (1922)
Manhattan (1979)
Mystic River (2003)
3 Idiots (2009)
Battleship Potemkin (1925)
Big Fish (2003)
Papillon (1973)
Jurassic Park (1993)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943)
Castle in the Sky (1986)
The Untouchables (1987)
Bringing Up Baby (1938)
In the Heat of the Night


In fact it is probably the most highly overrated movie that has ever existed.

Where is Prometheus on this list?
 
2013-01-04 09:57:00 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.

Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.


Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.
 
2013-01-04 09:58:51 AM  
I liked Avengers but the problem is I'm like a 6 on the nerd scale and that movie was an 8 or 9. And Prometheus is pretty much universally regarded as "could and should have been much better than it turned out", so I don't know how that's overrated. Some people are confusing overrated and overhyped like they often do.
 
2013-01-04 10:14:08 AM  

Craptastic: moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.

That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.


Most superhero's investigative technique is either punch someone or hold them over the edge of a building until they spill the beans.
 
2013-01-04 10:38:50 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Craptastic: moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.

That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.

Most superhero's investigative technique is either punch someone or hold them over the edge of a building until they spill the beans.


I know, right? They're superheroes! They use their super powers to punch bad guys. It ain't rocket surgery.

On another note: Am I the only person in the world who didn't hate Prometheus? I'd like to see a sequel where the woman and the robot-head find the home planet of the Engineers and find out why they're such assholes.
 
2013-01-04 10:49:56 AM  

Craptastic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Craptastic: moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.

That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.

Most superhero's investigative technique is either punch someone or hold them over the edge of a building until they spill the beans.

I know, right? They're superheroes! They use their super powers to punch bad guys. It ain't rocket surgery.

On another note: Am I the only person in the world who didn't hate Prometheus? I'd like to see a sequel where the woman and the robot-head find the home planet of the Engineers and find out why they're such assholes.


Even after they have the info they usually give a few more or drop them. It's awesome.

I didn't hate Prometheus. Visually it was stunning, Noomi is just fantastic to watch and listen to, it's just that it made no damn sense at all. It's tough to make a intellectual action sci-fi and pull it off well (hat's off to John Carpenter's The Thing)
 
2013-01-04 10:52:12 AM  

vrax: Seriously? That paragraph tells me that you are trying to fail at life.


Got nothin' huh?

PanicMan: Funny enough, I'm just starting to try and understand David Lynch


The guy has some amazing skill at cinematography, but when it comes to symbolism and deeper meaning, he's a monkey throwing paint at a canvas. Have fun with it, but I wouldn't bother trying to "figure him out". He's an onion.

Teufelaffe: Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.


Uhh... you don't see the fact that the protagonist is present at his own death to be strikingly similar? Or the ethical struggle the character goes through as a result of traveling into his own past? The role of memory, and how perspective affects our perceptions?

Don't get me wrong, Looper wasn't nearly as good a film as 12 Monkeys, but there's quite a lot of 12 Monkeys in Looper. A fair bit of Blade Runner too.
 
2013-01-04 10:58:05 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Visually it was stunning, Noomi is just fantastic to watch and listen to, it's just that it made no damn sense at all.


This. Nothing that looks that epic should have a plot that stupid and juvenile. I wanted to kick Ridley Scott in the balls after it was over, and then I went and read an interview about his "creative process" and wanted to kick him in the balls twice.
 
2013-01-04 11:00:14 AM  
I love it when people make statements telling people to watch Shakespeare for smart entertainment, when all the while, Shakespeare was the master of the Elizabethan era fart joke.
 
2013-01-04 11:00:54 AM  

tgambitg: Electromax: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."

Karl Urban doesn't get enough credit for his acting roles... Yeah, he does a lot of crappy movies, but he takes on roles and does well in them, even if everything else around him is a piece of shiat... (*cough* Chronicles of Riddick *cough*)


Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).
 
2013-01-04 11:19:25 AM  

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).


Wait! That's the same guy? (googles)

Well, I'll be damned. I did not know that.
 
2013-01-04 11:24:49 AM  

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).


He is one of those guys that is just good at whatever they ask him to do. Love or hate the movies you can't say he wasn't good in The Chronicles of Riddick, Doom, and Priest.
 
2013-01-04 11:58:39 AM  

vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.


If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.
 
2013-01-04 12:02:32 PM  

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I w ...


Red was my favorite action movie of 2011 (I know it came out in 2010, but I didn't see it til 2011). Everything about it was great. Even old Bruce Willis kicking ass fit, because he was supposed to be old. And Urban did a great job too. The fight in the CIA headquarters is one of my favorite fight scenes

"Kordeski trained you?"
"Yea"
"I trained Kordeski" *SNAP*
 
2013-01-04 12:06:29 PM  
I loved it. So why am I supposed to care that people are upset that I did?
 
2013-01-04 12:06:50 PM  

8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.


You must have absolutely despised Chappelle's "Haters In Time" sketch then

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2013-01-04 12:55:17 PM  
TDKR was dull. Just... Dull. How can you take a great Batman story like Knightfall and turn it into a dull, plodding, self-absorbed movie like this? Bane is nothing like the source character (they might as well have given him a new name) and Catwoman, while not guilty of making groan-worthy puns as usually seen on film, was as much a sadsack as everyone else. Talia's appearance was less of a twist and more of a deus ex, and Bruce was just annoying as hell from start to finish.

Compare that to the animated The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and you'll see what I mean. Why is it that Warner Bros. animation can get DC characters so RIGHT while WB live-action always makes them sad, whiny, BORING and sanctimonious? Young Justice rocks. Pretty much every Batman animated feature rocks. Even the Superman animated features beat the shiat out of live-action stuff! If you haven't seen Superman vs. The Elite, you should check it out.

Meanwhile, The Avengers was fun! It was a dumb movie, sure, but it was a rollercoaster ride, not a long tunnel of self-introspection and deep psychological investigation. I enjoyed Avengers because it didn't try to be more than it is. Superheroes, by definition, are ridiculous. Why try to Nolanize them and make them 'serious' to the point of removing all the fun from it?

I have my gripes with Whedon, but he handled Avengers perfectly. Frankly, I think it's a shame he can't have a crack at a Marvel Studios version of Spider-Man, and from me (major Spidey fan) that's high praise for his directing talents.

Actually, if Marvel develops Starfox as a character (no, not the stupid Nintendo anthropomorphic fox, either) I'd like to see what Whedon does with him. He'd also be awesome at a She-Hulk movie, I think.

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As for Nolan, I like him. Some of his movies are among my favorites, but his Batman was dull as dried beans, and I would like to see him stay away from superheroes from now on.

I just really don't get why Timm and Dini can't have a crack at a live action Batman.
 
2013-01-04 12:57:20 PM  

8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.


Let me guess, you're known as the uncomfortable weird guy where you work.
 
2013-01-04 01:14:05 PM  
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2013-01-04 01:17:15 PM  

HighOnCraic:


I do t know what that is, but I would really like to know more.
 
2013-01-04 01:27:09 PM  
Of the movies I saw, Django, Prometheus, and Skyfall were all pretty disappointing.

Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers were great. Batman was just okay.
 
2013-01-04 01:33:45 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: MIB 3 was better


4/10. I almost bit.
 
2013-01-04 01:38:21 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Of the movies I saw, Django, Prometheus, and Skyfall were all pretty disappointing.

Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers were great. Batman was just okay.


Cabin in the Woods was a great surprise. I live in Spain per the Navy, and our exposure to American pop culture and specifically to movie advertisements is fairly limited. I keep track online where I can, but s lot slips by. Imagine my surprise when I saw a BluRay at the movie rental place on base saying "From the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Writer Director of The Avengers Joss Whedon" on the front cover. The wife and I rented it and watched it Halloween night, and really enjoyed the hell out of it.

All the Whedon universe cameos were a great touch too.

/shoulda been mermen...
 
2013-01-04 01:40:24 PM  

HighOnCraic: [cdn.uproxx.com image 650x974]


One of the hottest Alison Bree pics ever...and that's saying something.
 
2013-01-04 01:40:59 PM  

Teufelaffe: HighOnCraic: [cdn.uproxx.com image 650x974]

One of the hottest Alison Brie pics ever...and that's saying something.


FTFM
 
2013-01-04 01:44:55 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: God Is My Co-Pirate: Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.

But some of the best eye candy assembled on the big screen in ages.

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I couldn't agree more...

OH... effects, you meant effects didn't you?


Well no, I meant the guys, but carry on.  :)
 
2013-01-04 01:46:55 PM  

Teufelaffe: Teufelaffe: HighOnCraic: [cdn.uproxx.com image 650x974]

One of the hottest Alison Brie pics ever...and that's saying something.

FTFM


Holy crap...did not even know that was her...wow
 
2013-01-04 02:48:04 PM  

8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.


You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.
 
2013-01-04 03:01:49 PM  

vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.



Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.
 
2013-01-04 03:38:37 PM  

Shadowknight: Kangaroo_Ralph: Of the movies I saw, Django, Prometheus, and Skyfall were all pretty disappointing.

Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers were great. Batman was just okay.

Cabin in the Woods was a great surprise. I live in Spain per the Navy, and our exposure to American pop culture and specifically to movie advertisements is fairly limited. I keep track online where I can, but s lot slips by. Imagine my surprise when I saw a BluRay at the movie rental place on base saying "From the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Writer Director of The Avengers Joss Whedon" on the front cover. The wife and I rented it and watched it Halloween night, and really enjoyed the hell out of it.

All the Whedon universe cameos were a great touch too.

/shoulda been mermen...



Okay, weird point in the greater context of the film, but it was bugging me trying to figure how, if merman was chosen, it manages to get all of them. I mean, do you have to herd them all into the lake? Because it didn't seem to be getting around all that well on land. Yeah, I've watched it a couple of times.
 
2013-01-04 03:53:56 PM  

Teufelaffe: RaceBoatDriver: Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.

Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.

Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.


Pffffft.

Here's a quote Bruce Willis gave comparing Looper to 12 Monkeys.
They're very similar.

Here's Bruce Willis in another interview.
I commented that this is the second heartbroken time travel movie he's done, and they stand apart from most of the genre in the way they thematically use the time travel to give us a sort of x-ray of a character. There's something similar in the way they show these men struggling to change fate. "Well, both scripts were really, really well-written, and really had their own time-travel math down. '12 Monkeys' in the first part of the film had this proposition that my character may be completely nuts, and then I found out about halfway through that I'm not nuts, and I'm going to have to work through this future. In this film, in the script, Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character says, 'Time travel is invented in the future, but nobody really made a big deal about it, and it was mainly just used by the gangsters in this very violent way in both futures." He concluded by observing, "There's a lot of similarity."
 
2013-01-04 03:55:22 PM  

Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*


i don't care if i'm late to this

but goddamit that was about the best scene ever ever evar

reminded me of Bam Bam from the Flintstones & just as silly

/liked avengers very very much
 
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