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2013-01-03 07:37:57 PM  

carmody: "Prometheus." Seriously.


Has to be this. First, the rumors surrounding an Alien prequel had been swirling for years. Second, Scott comes back to direct it after stating he'd not do such a thing. You have a very, very rich universe already established, and a method to tell a story that leads up to the spaceship first being discovered in Alien. Could have easily told that story and directly or indirectly linked it to Alien however much you wanted.

Instead we get a convoluted hot mess aimed at telling a story about the origins of humanity that never gets close to being explained. It has no real link to Alien and while Scott said it wasn't his intention, why wasn't it?? That movie could have been made with no connection whatsoever to the Alien universe and probably been better off for it to boot. Setting a movie as a 'sort of but not really prequel' in the Alien universe just seems like a way to drum up interest rather than the movie actually be the result of an interesting story to tell in the same universe.

Visually I thought the movie was fantastic. I had to see it in 3D and even thought the use of it was really well done and I typically hate 3D. I thought the actors largely did a great job with what they were given. But the story? Fark that. It was so...uninteresting...I don't even care if they do try to fix or resolve it with a sequel.
 
2013-01-03 07:39:45 PM  
Gwynth Paltrow should get punched in the face.
 
2013-01-03 07:40:33 PM  

Suede head: Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.


Must. Not. Bite.
 
2013-01-03 07:43:39 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: It was so...uninteresting...I don't even care if they do try to fix or resolve it with a sequel.


So when the sequel DOES come out, and you DON'T watch it, and it DOES explain everything, can we count on this being the reason why you suck at life so much?
 
2013-01-03 07:43:40 PM  

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.
 
2013-01-03 07:46:05 PM  
The Hobbit was fantastic. No it didn't match up with my imagination, but I thought it was a great interpretation of the book.

If you didn't like it, feel free not to watch the other two, I guess?
 
2013-01-03 07:46:07 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Suede head: Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.

Must. Not. Bite.


I will. FARK 9/11!
 
2013-01-03 07:47:38 PM  

CSM101: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.


Except for the end, when it stands around and takes orders?
 
2013-01-03 07:48:39 PM  

Zombie DJ: I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.


awwww, you're SO cute! That 'I'M A BIG BAD TOUGH GUY ON THE WEBZ' thing is so adorable. You must feel so protected with your fan base of 1,000 people who saw this movie 15 times in the theater.
 
2013-01-03 07:51:12 PM  

texdent: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

And Guardians of the Galaxy.


God, I want to see a Guardians movie SO BAD. I also hope it gets released before Justice League, just so we can say that Rocket Raccoon got a major movie release before Flash, Aquaman, and co.
 
2013-01-03 07:51:21 PM  

ArminiusTheGreat: Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.


More likely the fanboys who were terrified that the movie was going to be a complete failure and it actually worked as a decent movie. (though maybe there's a bit of fanboy nostalgia in there too, though the Avengers comics weren't all that popular compared to X-Men and Spiderman and Wolverine.)

NOT a great movie. Not even one of the top 10 movies of 2012. But it worked, it was decent, and can be a pretty decent basis for future movies.
 
2013-01-03 07:55:11 PM  

dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...


Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?

Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?

The movie was just stupid. The script was stupid.

But at least they all died in the end.
 
2013-01-03 07:56:09 PM  

Wholesale Ass: Zombie DJ: I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.

awwww, you're SO cute! That 'I'M A BIG BAD TOUGH GUY ON THE WEBZ' thing is so adorable. You must feel so protected with your fan base of 1,000 people who saw this movie 15 times in the theater.



Zombie DJ didn't care for the opinions of Steven Zeitchik or more than 2,600 respondents to a Times online survey, what the fark makes you think he cares about your opinion?
 
2013-01-03 07:57:47 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: vrax: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

Maybe it's because I haven't read The Hobbit since I was a kid, but I found the movie to be completely enjoyable. I wished they'd just show all 9 hours in one sitting. I would have stayed. I have lots of patience though.

I must be the only person in the universe that meets the following criteria:

1. Read the hobbit and LOTR, completely
B. wasn't bored by them
Ɣ. Loved the hobbit movie and all three LOTR movies


Nope, you're not the only one. Anyone who didn't like the movie The Hobbit is obviously a Hobbit molester and just felt uncomfortable watching that hobbity hawtness surrounded by all those dwarves.
 
2013-01-03 07:59:51 PM  

Wholesale Ass: So when the sequel DOES come out, and you DON'T watch it, and it DOES explain everything, can we count on this being the reason why you suck at life so much?


Ridley's Fark user name revealed! While I have your attention, your Robin Hood film was vastly worse than Prometheus and made me hope you'd live long enough so that wasn't your last film. The Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut was excellent though. The studio really boned you on the theatrical release, but you already know that. As for the Prometheus sequel, I'll pass despite whatever impact it has on my life.
 
2013-01-03 08:01:40 PM  

CujoQuarrel: dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...

Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?

Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?

The movie was just stupid. The script was stupid.

But at least they all died in the end.


Those are your complaints? They all died in the end? Did you see the movie?
 
2013-01-03 08:06:57 PM  

Eunuch Provocateur: CSM101: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.

Except for the end, when it stands around and takes orders?


The Hulk always had a persona of it's own, and depending on what particular persona it is, it has access to banner's intellect. He was only goes mindlessly smashy when something triggers it, like say, a sudden transformation.
 
2013-01-03 08:08:56 PM  

CujoQuarrel: Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?


You've just encountered something that you would probably assume to be a hallucination. Is your immediate reaction to go to the doctor?


CujoQuarrel: Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?


Complaining about the physiology of an imaginary alien species, especially when you don't know what else is in the "room with no food supplies" aside from the med-unit, is almost as dumb as running directly away from a large wheel rolling toward you.

I'm not defending the movie, mind you, I was terribly disappointed by it, but when finding things to biatch about, you could at least pick things that don't make you sound like a dufus.

/At least you're not one of the "Shaw didn't have gloves on inside the ship, but in the next scene outside of the ship she's wearing gloves. That's a terrible plot-hole!" people.
 
2013-01-03 08:12:09 PM  

Champion of the Sun: PanicMan: What's wrong with you people? Avengers was fantastic. To have that many major characters fit together in a story that well is an art. And be funny. And have good action. And oh by the way ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD HULK! Man, and I thought I was a bitter asshole. You guys take the cake. And no I've never been a comic book fan.

Dark Knight Rises? That was merely not as great as it could have been. A good edit could fix that.

But Prometheus was so bad it hurt.

You know how when you touch a woman's boobies and the feel like a bag of sand?


Sorry, I don't really know what a bag of sand feels like.
 
2013-01-03 08:15:26 PM  

Apos: AdolfOliverPanties: Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.


You won't regret it. It's Jack Black's best role to date.


No, that's still him getting his arm shot off in The Jackal.
 
2013-01-03 08:21:30 PM  
The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers
 
2013-01-03 08:23:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I agree with you on every count.

Dredd was crazy graphic ... so I immediately told all my buddies
 
2013-01-03 08:34:45 PM  

Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers


No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.
 
2013-01-03 08:37:36 PM  

vrax: CujoQuarrel: dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...

Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?

Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?

The movie was just stupid. The script was stupid.

But at least they all died in the end.

Those are your complaints? They all died in the end? Did you see the movie?


Of course I saw the movie. All of them dying in the end was it's only redeeming feature. I was rooting for that from the moment I saw them land on the planet without even orbiting it once to check it out.
 
2013-01-03 08:48:12 PM  
did they NOT see twilight? Which of course I can understand.
 
2013-01-03 08:52:30 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.


Which is a totally valid criticism of Transformers while entirely missing the point I made. The main defenses of Avengers are the same defenses that are typically used to defend Transformers  - that the movies made lots of money and that they were supposed to be popcorn movies.

/Hipsters gonna hipster isn't a defense of the movie, it's an attack on the critics of the movie, hence why it's not listed as a defense of the movie even while it's employed quite often in this thread.
 
2013-01-03 08:53:04 PM  

Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers


I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.
 
2013-01-03 08:57:59 PM  
I was disappointed in Avengers the first time I saw it.  So much corny dialog.  For some reason I had a much better opinion second time around, maybe because I knew the cornball was coming and ignored it.
 
2013-01-03 09:07:12 PM  
Avengers was alright until the alien invasion. wtf was up with that. Worst. invasion plan. ever. Just float around or hang on a building wall. Like a bunch of high school kids at a dance.
 
2013-01-03 09:07:40 PM  

Mugato: Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.


I agree. This doesn't mean that the Avengers deserves the accolades that fanboys are giving it, nor does it mean that the movie doesn't deserve to be called overrated. It was a far better movie in nearly all aspects than any of the Transformers movies... but the defenses are similar. When the defenses are similar for crappy movies like the Transformers movies as for a supposedly "Great" movie like defenders claim the Avengers was, then that should be a red flag that the movie isn't as great as it could be.

/If someone is defending two actress with "She is a redhead with boobs!" where one is Kathy Griffin and the other is Christina Hendricks... they might want to rethink the "She is a redhead with boobs!" defense.
 
2013-01-03 09:08:12 PM  

Shadowknight: ObeliskToucher: /Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"

Don't get me started there.  I always read the abridged version of Moby Dick, and thought it was a great book.  Then one time a couple years back, I made it my mission to read the unabridged version.  Dear lord, Herman needed an editor.  There were so many parts that were completely unnecessary to the story.  Entire chapters that read like a how-to manual for whaling, discussing diameters for harpoons and various weaves for the ropes.


Try reading 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea sometime. You'll be on the edge of you seat as they list page after page of scientific names of the creatures they see.
 
2013-01-03 09:11:07 PM  

Yotto: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.
....
Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.


Banner has a split personality, and anger management issues. He cannot control the Hulk, but by this movie he has at least learned to control the transformation for the most part. Ironically, not by trying to control his anger, but by learning to maintain his aggressive feelings to a level that will not trigger the reaction out of turn. Which gels nicely between the last scene of the Incredible Hulk with Norton, and Ruffalo's performance in the Avengers.
 
2013-01-03 09:23:09 PM  

Apos: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything other than "The Town" and "The Avengers" with Jeremy Renner is a let down.


FTFY.

/Decent actor with a spotty record.


I can agree with that. I don't really like Affleck either but thought he did a good job.
 
2013-01-03 09:24:34 PM  

Techhell: Mugato: Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.

I agree. This doesn't mean that the Avengers deserves the accolades that fanboys are giving it, nor does it mean that the movie doesn't deserve to be called overrated. It was a far better movie in nearly all aspects than any of the Transformers movies... but the defenses are similar. When the defenses are similar for crappy movies like the Transformers movies as for a supposedly "Great" movie like defenders claim the Avengers was, then that should be a red flag that the movie isn't as great as it could be.

/If someone is defending two actress with "She is a redhead with boobs!" where one is Kathy Griffin and the other is Christina Hendricks... they might want to rethink the "She is a redhead with boobs!" defense.


I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is. So given that it was a movie about a collection of mutants fighting robot/aliens, I think it was done about as well as it could have. And unlike Transformers, it managed to put in some likable characters  IMO.
 
2013-01-03 09:25:35 PM  
I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.
 
2013-01-03 09:27:21 PM  

Brick-House: did they NOT see twilight? Which of course I can understand.


Overrated means over-praised. Critics have panned Twilight since the first movie.
 
2013-01-03 09:27:25 PM  
I liked The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises, so I argue with myself all the time about my taste in superhero movies.
 
2013-01-03 09:29:33 PM  

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


Screw you both. I loved the Hobbit. Pacing was fine and acting good. Consider your geek cards revoked.
 
2013-01-03 09:32:21 PM  

Yotto: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.

The awesome power is that he can turn into this indestructible killing machine that is pretty dumb but fantastically hefty. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The Hulk"

The sucky power is that he sometimes freaks out and can't control himself. That uncontrollable guy turns into The Hulk because it allows him more ability to fark shiat up. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The other guy."

Note, Banner did not say, "I put a bullet in my mouth. The Hulk spat it out." He said "The other guy spat it out." At first, I thought they were trying to not say The Hulk for some reason, but later, they freely refer to him as The Hulk. Cap even gives him the classic line as an order, "Hulk... Smash."

Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.


Ohh... nice bit of overthinking there. I would like it if they could work in grey/green hulk. That could be cool.
 
2013-01-03 09:39:30 PM  

Eunuch Provocateur: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.

The next time you have a few hours to spare you should check out The Assassination of Jesse James.


Word. This is a seriously good movie, and Renner nailed his part.

/I don't usually care for westerns, but this one was great.
 
2013-01-03 09:41:15 PM  

Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is. So given that it was a movie about a collection of mutants fighting robot/aliens, I think it was done about as well as it could have. And unlike Transformers, it managed to put in some likable characters  IMO.


Exactly.
 
2013-01-03 09:53:29 PM  

Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.


You know what? I regret saying this. ^^^

It's been a little while since I saw the movie, so I went on YouTube and watched a few of the longer (1-2 mins.) promo clips. At a glance, the story actually seems much better than I remembered. I had forgotten a lot of the Loki/Thor sibling dynamic, and the Iron Man/Cap evolution seemed pretty good as well. I still maintain the characters were spread a bit too thin (I would be fine without Hawkeye and the Black Widow entirely), but otherwise the movie is probably smarter than I gave it credit for. I should probably rent and watch the DVD again to see.

However, I still maintain the Batman trilogy are the best superhero movies ever to be put on screen.
 
2013-01-03 09:58:25 PM  

Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is.


How do you define "executes"? In other words, do you mean how well they can take the material and make it great or how accurate they stay to the material? (I hope that makes sense.)

If it's the latter, I respectfully disagree. Some artistic license is often required to make something work on the big screen.
 
2013-01-03 10:03:38 PM  
If I wanted to look at a bunch of CGI, I'd play a video game instead.
 
2013-01-03 10:09:47 PM  

Wholesale Ass: Zombie DJ: I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.

awwww, you're SO cute! That 'I'M A BIG BAD TOUGH GUY ON THE WEBZ' thing is so adorable. You must feel so protected with your fan base of 1,000 people who saw this movie 15 times in the theater.


LOL!! Look at all the butthurt you have because I could care less about someones opinion.
Geez, I hope you don't ever upload a video of yourself on Youtube. You might want to commit suicide after reading the comment section.
Better cowboy up if what I said hurt so bad. And ya, I still don't give a fark who you are and if you liked a farking movie.
It's just a farking movie.
I'm in radio. I get peoples opinions everyday. And everyone has one. Mine. Yours. Whoever posts under me.
If you're basing your existence on how many "followers" people have and if that should influence others, put a dollar in the deutsche jar while you're writing your screenplay at Starbucks.

I'll have you know tens of people hang on my every word. That's right, TENS OF PEOPLE!
I AM A GOD TO THEM!
But they don't care what I say and neither should I. Why?

It's a farking movie and it's my farking opinion the writers and voters are wrong.
 
2013-01-03 10:12:16 PM  

jonny_q: Dissociater: I really liked Avengers. It didn't hold up as well on a second viewing. And it certainly is deserving of the most overrated movie of the year. Most over rated doesn't mean bad.

I've sat with my 4 year old and watched it a bunch of times.

I'll probably never watch TDKR again.

A lot of movies are like that. I'll watch them, tell my friends I liked the movie, but when the opportunity comes to watch the movie again, I just won't do it.


I'm similar with the movies I enjoy most. I'll watch them once in a blue moon (years apart), often because they're too "operatic" or sad or nuanced for casual viewing. One of my favorite movies in the world is Blade Runner. I first saw it about 15 years ago and have seen it only about 3 times in total. It's fantastic, but simply depressing at times.
 
2013-01-03 10:12:35 PM  

Wayne 985: Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is.

How do you define "executes"? In other words, do you mean how well they can take the material and make it great or how accurate they stay to the material? (I hope that makes sense.)

If it's the latter, I respectfully disagree. Some artistic license is often required to make something work on the big screen.


Well I'm not really a comic book guy so I have the advantage of not giving a shiat how faithful a comic book movie is to the source material. I do know enough about comics to know that none of the villains in the Nolan movies were anything like their comic book counter parts but they were still good films.

As for The Avengers, I just meant they were given a premise of 7 or so goofy characters with an even goofier villain and they managed to make it work. Every character got enough screen time, there was pretty amusing dialog and the action scenes were executed well. It could have been a lot worse.
 
2013-01-03 10:17:03 PM  
Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.
 
2013-01-03 10:21:30 PM  

sonnyboy11: Screw you both. I loved the Hobbit. Pacing was fine and acting good. Consider your geek cards revoked.


I'm with this guy. Hobbit was great. Just don't go in expecting it to be LOTR. It's the story of a bunch of guys gonna kill a dragon an' get rich. And Arthur Dent is a a really good Bilbo.
 
2013-01-03 10:22:31 PM  

Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.


You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.
 
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