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2013-01-03 05:14:10 PM

Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*


"Hmph, puny God"
 
2013-01-03 05:16:03 PM

brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


Just stop. You're a farking idiot.
 
2013-01-03 05:16:58 PM
What a piss poor poll. The following were the options:

The Avengers
Prometheus
Brave
Ted
Project X
The Master
Cloud Atlas

Three of these movies I've never even heard of and The Avengers is the only one I've actually seen. Why ignore all the bigger name movies that came out this year like The Hunger Games, Batman, Twilight BD Part 2 and Skyfall?
 
2013-01-03 05:17:47 PM

VoodooTaco: JohnnyC: I actually enjoyed the Avengers... My favorite part (***Spoiler Alert - so stop reading now if you don't want to know***) was when the Hulk grabbed Loki mid sentence and whooped his ass. I laughed heartily at that. :)

Totally agree.

I likened that to the Indiana Jones moment when he pulled out the gun and casually shot the schimatar wielding badass.


Exactly! It was beautiful in it's succinct manner of badassery!
 
2013-01-03 05:18:19 PM

moothemagiccow: jonny_q: Yeah Avengers is NOWHERE NEAR "most overrated" of 2012.

Clearly you liked the movie.

Some people didn't like it. A lot of people went to see it. It got a lot of good reviews and broke a lot of records. It wasn't actually very good.


Which is fine with me, not everybody's going to like it. It being "overrated" is another matter.
 
2013-01-03 05:18:34 PM

sidcart42: At what point do we get to vote on the term "overrated" and the people who use it?

I think we can start approaching it as the physiological condition that generates the reaction.


It's called, "Being an insecure asshole." And "Deriving self-worth from literally any opportunity to distinguish yourself from the people you know."


Oh, look how cool and edgy you are.
 
2013-01-03 05:20:06 PM
Skyfall was EASILY the most overhyped. People were raving about this 10/10 film that was really a 7/10 film with a horrible third act.
 
2013-01-03 05:20:09 PM

Wholesale Ass: brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

Just stop. You're a farking idiot.


Your.
 
2013-01-03 05:20:20 PM

Tremolo: I'm always amazed at the amount of charisma Jeremy Renner doesn't have. He's wooden in everything he's in and just has a d-bag look about him.


Yeah... I haven't liked him in anything I've seen him in thus far. He makes a better bad guy than good guy... I can say that much... but mostly because he just inspires a general feeling of dislike automatically.
 
2013-01-03 05:21:18 PM

way south: I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.


So when you go see the Avengers you expect crap, get crap, enjoy crap.

Therefore, everyone wants crap.
 
2013-01-03 05:22:59 PM
Avengers was a ton of fun. I enjoyed it both times I watched it.

Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

Skyfall was the most overrated however. Javier Bardem's 'evil plot' was undewhelming which he fails to complete but then somehow accidentally succeeds in the end. I do not see what people saw in this movie.
 
2013-01-03 05:26:28 PM
I don't know if Brave counts as disappointing, as all the reviews prepared me for what it was by the time I saw it. Pretty disappointing from what I was hoping for six months prior, however.

Hebalo: Skyfall was EASILY the most overhyped. People were raving about this 10/10 film that was really a 7/10 film with a horrible third act.


What, you didn't like Home Alone with Judy Dench and a magical Scotsman?
 
2013-01-03 05:29:42 PM
Statistically speaking, of COURSE The Avengers was the most overrated. More people went to see it than went to see the other films, and it wasn't exactly a film of substance.

The list:
"The Avengers" 85.39%
"Prometheus" 4.62%
"Brave" 1.02%
"Ted" 3.03%
"Project X" 1.78%
"The Master" 1.78%
"Cloud Atlas" 2.38%

With a loaded list like that and the limited sampling, people voted for the film that they saw and remember liking the least in retrospect. Very few films on the list were bad. Where's "Cabin in the Woods"? "Total Recall"? I wonder how many abstained.
 
2013-01-03 05:30:10 PM
I really liked Avengers. It didn't hold up as well on a second viewing. And it certainly is deserving of the most overrated movie of the year. Most over rated doesn't mean bad.
 
2013-01-03 05:30:21 PM

Champion of the Sun: PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?

So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.


Fark the children, he's chasing kitty in Paris.

And furthermore, Prometheus was probably the most gorgeous total waste of time and money that I've ever seen.
 
2013-01-03 05:32:01 PM
Isn't the concept of overrated a just failure to manage expectations on your part?
 
2013-01-03 05:32:28 PM

Electromax: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."


Karl Urban doesn't get enough credit for his acting roles... Yeah, he does a lot of crappy movies, but he takes on roles and does well in them, even if everything else around him is a piece of shiat... (*cough* Chronicles of Riddick *cough*)
 
2013-01-03 05:33:15 PM

Tremolo: I'm always amazed at the amount of charisma Jeremy Renner doesn't have. He's wooden in everything he's in and just has a d-bag look about him.


he was a really good d-bag in the Town.
 
2013-01-03 05:34:11 PM

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


I got the sense that he wasn't entirely 100% in control. In the case you mention, he was unable to hold the Hulk in, so the Hulk lashed out as the Hulk would. At the end, he was more in control because he controlled the change.
 
2013-01-03 05:34:18 PM
Everyone is forgetting the second best part.


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Hulk made that movie
 
2013-01-03 05:34:40 PM

Dissociater: I really liked Avengers. It didn't hold up as well on a second viewing. And it certainly is deserving of the most overrated movie of the year. Most over rated doesn't mean bad.


I've sat with my 4 year old and watched it a bunch of times.

I'll probably never watch TDKR again.

A lot of movies are like that. I'll watch them, tell my friends I liked the movie, but when the opportunity comes to watch the movie again, I just won't do it.
 
2013-01-03 05:35:21 PM

Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.


if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it
 
2013-01-03 05:35:38 PM

Errk: Award worthy....

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especially seeing her ass in the costume
 
2013-01-03 05:36:22 PM
Look how cool I am by calling the most profitable movie of the year overrated! Nevermind that it actually managed to successfully and enjoyably tie four separate movies together, something which has probably never been done before!

Oh man, this article is going to get this guy all the free PBRs and disinterested groupies down at the bar.
 
2013-01-03 05:36:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*

"Hmph, puny God"


What made it so funny was that it was so random. There was this great setup, like we were going to get some last-minute trump card out of Loki, and then right in the middle of it, Hulk told him "Fark you" in the most awesome way possible without actually saying it.
 
2013-01-03 05:36:37 PM
I liked the Avengers and DKR. Lots of plot holes in both, but I tend to not over think these sorts of movies. As others have mentioned, Dredd was surprisingly awesome. Hopefully it does well on DVD sales and they'll get to make another.
 
2013-01-03 05:37:49 PM

moothemagiccow: Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it


If they ran perpendicular instead of parallel, I may have liked it.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:11 PM
I've gotta stop getting super-blazed before going to see summer blockbusters. I didn't like the Avengers, but I saw it for the 2nd time, coincidentally, this afternoon, after seeing it the first when it was in the theaters. Under no substances. It was nice...real nice. Maybe I should watch TDKR again; I really felt everything was squeeze-forced into the running time. I saw Dredd 3D a couple of days ago; it's gritty. I preferred Avengers. Not overrated.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:31 PM
Batman was laughably terrible. The voice of Bane completely killed the mood of the movie for me. Could not stay awake.
 
2013-01-03 05:39:38 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Everyone is forgetting the second best part.


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Hulk made that movie


i want to know if there was a cut bit where thor picks himself out of some rubble, walks over, claps hulk on the back hard enough to stagger him and says 'first round's on me.'
 
2013-01-03 05:41:00 PM
I remember Prometheus promising us a naked Charlize Theron doing pushups.

Now that's overhyping a project.
 
2013-01-03 05:43:19 PM
 
2013-01-03 05:45:19 PM

Champion of the Sun:
So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.


I uh... got a little excessive in my editing. Allow me to give you credit for your post.
 
2013-01-03 05:47:05 PM

hawcian: brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

This saddens me more than you know. Prometheus was...not very good, but I liked the fan theories that spawned from it. Making it about God/Jesus/whatever is immensely disappointing. For whatever reason, it reminds me of where they took the rebooted Battlestar Galatica. I wanted to beat the crap out of the writers after that ending.


just because there's the jesus thing doesn't mean that it's a literally religious explanation for everything, like in BSG. The two aren't even the same. It's not " God did it."

It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.
 
2013-01-03 05:49:20 PM

Plant Rights Activist: Champion of the Sun:
So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.

I uh... got a little excessive in my editing. Allow me to give you credit for your post.


Didn't he lose his money by Bane stealing it for that guy who was trying to take over Wayne Enterprises? I thought that was what was happening, kinda forgot. Just know that he lost all his money and never tried to get it back.

Property taxes on Wayne Manor gotta be pretty high. And can Alfred afford vacations to France now that he's a butler for a foster home with no money? Stupid nits to pick, but a throw away line in the movie would've helped.
 
2013-01-03 05:50:08 PM

I read fark for the pics: Batman was laughably terrible. The voice of Bane completely killed the mood of the movie for me. Could not stay awake.


I really liked the voice until I realized that it was Sean Connery.
 
2013-01-03 05:51:48 PM

Dr Dreidel: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

Are you forgetting the Ed Norton Hulk movie? He's pretty good as Banner (mostly because he has the "talking like a dork" thing down) - I wonder if he could have survived The Avengers.

That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will? Because they just sort of implied it, and it took me coming up with that explanation on my own to explain the movie. The gap between the end of Ed Norton ("When I lose control...I kinda like it") and the beginning of Ruffalo ("Hi! I work as an underpaid physician in Calcutta to cut down on my stress levels!") could have done with some filling in.

// and I like The Avengers
// my gf - who has seen like 10 movies total in her life - liked it as well, even knowing next to nothing about the Big 4 going in (I had to explain to her who Thor is)


I'm not sure, but I know the hulk will be in 2 cross overs all be it in Thor 2 or 3 or CA 2 or 3.  I don't mind comic book movies, but this is getting spread pretty thin IMHO.
 
2013-01-03 05:52:09 PM

Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.


I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.
 
2013-01-03 05:53:47 PM

Champion of the Sun:
Didn't he lose his money by Bane stealing it for that guy who was trying to take over Wayne Enterprises? I thought that was what was happening, kinda forgot. Just know that he lost all his money and never tried to get it back.


from what I could tell WayneCorp wasn't doing so hot before the stock market thingy and from the conversation we have with the orphanage they hadn't been getting support for at least a couple years.
 
2013-01-03 05:55:20 PM

Kaeishiwaza: moothemagiccow: Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it

If they ran perpendicular instead of parallel, I may have liked it.


No
 
2013-01-03 05:56:42 PM

SavageWombat: I remember Prometheus promising us a naked Charlize Theron doing pushups.

Now that's overhyping a project.


I thought Monster proved that woman was ugly but damn if Prometheus didn't cement it.
 
2013-01-03 05:57:20 PM

Champion of the Sun: Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.

I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.


yeah, don't get me wrong, movie needed more explanation. I'm thinking he was planning on doing more in the next movie but yeah there was a lot of context missing and what looked awesome in a trailer was a mess of a script onscreen.

/ running from a rolling spaceship
// don't even think to run left or right to get out of the way
/// stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
2013-01-03 05:57:27 PM

buttery_shame_cave: i want to know if there was a cut bit where thor picks himself out of some rubble, walks over, claps hulk on the back hard enough to stagger him and says 'first round's on me.'


You're thinking of this movie.

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also a super classic
 
2013-01-03 05:58:39 PM

Snark Shark II: hawcian: brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

This saddens me more than you know. Prometheus was...not very good, but I liked the fan theories that spawned from it. Making it about God/Jesus/whatever is immensely disappointing. For whatever reason, it reminds me of where they took the rebooted Battlestar Galatica. I wanted to beat the crap out of the writers after that ending.

just because there's the jesus thing doesn't mean that it's a literally religious explanation for everything, like in BSG. The two aren't even the same. It's not " God did it."

It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.


Not to mention the film takes place on Christmas day, we have the backstory of the protagonist being all about her faith, One of the engineers LITERALLY giving up his body and blood for us. We have an immaculate conception of sorts, and the last known appearance of the Engineers on Earth was "about 2000 years ago".

The movie is loaded with nods to Christianity.
 
2013-01-03 05:59:11 PM
The Avengers movie was promised to be a good super hero movie. It delivered in spades. Nobody was expecting Citizen Kane.

TDKR was a little bit of a let down. Way too many plot holes for me. Not enough Batman being a bad-ass detective. One thing I did like was Catwoman. They didn't foist her out there in a cat costume. They just added some goggle things and threw in a wink - Catwoman. It was simple and it worked.
 
2013-01-03 06:00:32 PM
Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.
 
2013-01-03 06:01:22 PM

brigid_fitch:
/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


well, to be fair: if there is one true god and Jesus really was his son I'd think that any aliens that knew about us killing him would be pretty damn pissed.
 
2013-01-03 06:11:03 PM

Electromax: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."


Am I the only one who, while watching the Slo-Mo drug scenes in Dredd, thought "I gotta get me some of this shiat."
 
2013-01-03 06:11:59 PM

Plant Rights Activist:
the better question is: how did he lose it in the first place? He's not batmanning, he's not doing any public events and he's not even keeping an eye on Waynecorp for what like 8 years. What happened? Did he get suckered into World of Warcraft or something?


This is stated quite explicitly in the film multiple times including directly in answer to his question of "where has all my money gone". He funneled the company's resources into the fusion reactor project which he then refused to turn on or earn any money from.

How do you not get this?
 
2013-01-03 06:12:55 PM

Plant Rights Activist: brigid_fitch:
/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

well, to be fair: if there is one true god and Jesus really was his son I'd think that any aliens that knew about us killing him would be pretty damn pissed.


It's all ridiculous. These 'advanced' engineers send one guy down in ancient times and if they don't follow his lead and be nice then they're going to wipe out the entire population? They were surprised when these not so advanced humans turn out to still be savages? Then when they meet humans again, they are more advanced, but do they give them a chance to prove themselves? No, they are still head-rippinly mad.
 
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