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(LA Times)   "The Avengers" voted most overrated movie of 2012   (latimes.com) divider line 381
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2013-01-03 01:09:30 PM  
Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.
 
2013-01-03 01:11:40 PM  
Bad movie, but "most overrated" would have to go to Skyfall.
 
2013-01-03 01:12:15 PM  
That must mean that Les Miserables wasn't rated well, because it was way worse than Avengers.
 
2013-01-03 01:15:41 PM  
Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.
 
2013-01-03 01:16:50 PM  
Sounds right.
 
2013-01-03 01:17:10 PM  
The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen
 
2013-01-03 01:17:15 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I like yours better than mine.

/Dredd was surprisingly good.
 
2013-01-03 01:18:43 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*


No. No one saw the previews for that and thought it looked remotely good.
 
2013-01-03 01:19:43 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*


That movie is pulling a 55% at Metacritic. Not exactly highly rated.
 
2013-01-03 01:26:46 PM  

JerseyTim: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*

That movie is pulling a 55% at Metacritic. Not exactly highly rated.


Then I guess its a good thing this thread is about the most  overrated movie, and not the most highly rated.
 
2013-01-03 01:28:51 PM  
Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.
 
2013-01-03 01:29:07 PM  

Gig103: That must mean that Les Miserables wasn't rated well, because it was way worse than Avengers.


oh, look how edgy and cool you are.
 
2013-01-03 01:30:40 PM  

Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.


But some of the best eye candy assembled on the big screen in ages.
 
2013-01-03 01:31:28 PM  

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


I'm looking forward to the Hulk and Captain America sequels. Iron Man 3 looks so-so (not a huge fan of that character). The first Thor was godawful, and I'm sick of Loki, so I'll be skipping those unless they get rave reviews.
 
2013-01-03 01:33:31 PM  
I only saw about three theatrical releases.  One was "The Avengers" and it exceeded my expectations.  It was a farking group superhero movie.  It had a lot of ways it could have sucked.  It was great.

Fark this thread.
 
2013-01-03 01:40:16 PM  
I was waiting for a good avengers movie since I was 5.  It was great.
 
2013-01-03 01:42:13 PM  
Prometheus.
Not even a question.
 
2013-01-03 01:42:31 PM  
I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.
 
2013-01-03 01:45:41 PM  

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


And Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
2013-01-03 01:48:01 PM  

Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.
 
2013-01-03 01:49:37 PM  
I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin along!"
 
2013-01-03 01:49:53 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.



You won't regret it. It's Jack Black's best role to date.
 
2013-01-03 01:52:43 PM  
I guess it depends on your definitions. For disparity between critical praise and my enjoyment of a film, I'd have to vote for Life of Pi. It felt like when I wasn't being hit over the head with CGI effects, I was being hit over the head with THIS IS THE MESSAGE. To call Life of Pi ham-handed is an insult to both ham and hands.
 
2013-01-03 01:54:19 PM  

Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


TDKR was a bit overhyped, but it mostly lived up to its promise. There was good substance to it, which is why I still prefer it.
 
2013-01-03 01:57:25 PM  

texdent: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

And Guardians of the Galaxy.


I won't be surprised if this entire franchise makes a trillion combined.  The fan boys I know watched The Avengers in theaters up to 3 times.
 
2013-01-03 02:04:04 PM  

Wayne 985: Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

TDKR was a bit overhyped, but it mostly lived up to its promise. There was good substance to it, which is why I still prefer it.


That much I agree with. It just seemed....sloppier and more rushed compared to its predecessor.
 
2013-01-03 02:05:52 PM  
"The Avengers" is fun, but that's all. There is virtually no plot. The Avengers get together with relative ease, have a big fight, and all is well. Absolutely entertaining, but not the great movie that so many people have made it out to be. THAT said, not all movies have to be some epic, life-changing story and being just entertaining is more than enough.
 
2013-01-03 02:20:18 PM  

Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


Agreed 110%.  I loved Avengers.  Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie.  It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck through.
 
2013-01-03 02:21:02 PM  

serpent_sky: Absolutely entertaining, but not the great movie that so many people have made it out to be.


It could have done with a whole lot less Whedon.
 
2013-01-03 02:26:13 PM  

Wayne 985: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

I'm looking forward to the Hulk and Captain America sequels. Iron Man 3 looks so-so (not a huge fan of that character). The first Thor was godawful, and I'm sick of Loki, so I'll be skipping those unless they get rave reviews.


While Captain America and The Avengers are probably the pinnacle of Marvel Studios work, I'd say Thor, while not excellent, is definitely in the third or fourth in line, amusingly enough fighting with The Incredible Hulk.
 
2013-01-03 02:26:13 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.


Do you really have fun at the theater? I've enjoyed myself, sure, but I don't think I've ever had fun
 
2013-01-03 02:29:30 PM  
Award worthy....

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2013-01-03 02:38:06 PM  

Errk: Award worthy....

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I, uh... Well, heck, I really hated that character. She and Hawkeye were utter bores and the actors didn't even seem to have an interest in being there. Nice to look at, but giving them so much dialogue and screen time compared to the big four was a huge mistake.
 
2013-01-03 02:44:40 PM  

Wayne 985: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*

No. No one saw the previews for that and thought it looked remotely good.



I went in with very low expectations-and it was even more atrocious than I'd imagined. It's time-nay, long overdue-for Depp, Burton and Bonham Carter to part ways professionally.
 
2013-01-03 02:50:51 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen


Loved when Iron Man was going to take the archer to the top of the skyscraper and he said "Clinch up, Legolas".

Just watched it last night, loved it.
 
2013-01-03 02:51:31 PM  

Shadowknight: Agreed 110%. I loved Avengers. Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie. It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck tumbler through.

 
2013-01-03 03:02:18 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin along!"


I seem to remember a few lines in the movie where Hawkeye and Black Widow admit they are out of their class and wonder why they were even going in. But even before the fight, they got to show some of their potential, Black Widow at intelligence/data gathering and Hawkeye shows some ability for planning and organization, since it is quietly implied that he does a lot of the planning of getting manpower, resources for building the gateway and planning the attack on the Helicarrier.
 
2013-01-03 03:14:41 PM  

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


Are you forgetting the Ed Norton Hulk movie? He's pretty good as Banner (mostly because he has the "talking like a dork" thing down) - I wonder if he could have survived The Avengers.

That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will? Because they just sort of implied it, and it took me coming up with that explanation on my own to explain the movie. The gap between the end of Ed Norton ("When I lose control...I kinda like it") and the beginning of Ruffalo ("Hi! I work as an underpaid physician in Calcutta to cut down on my stress levels!") could have done with some filling in.

// and I like The Avengers
// my gf - who has seen like 10 movies total in her life - liked it as well, even knowing next to nothing about the Big 4 going in (I had to explain to her who Thor is)
 
2013-01-03 03:22:28 PM  

Sybarite: I guess it depends on your definitions. For disparity between critical praise and my enjoyment of a film, I'd have to vote for Life of Pi. It felt like when I wasn't being hit over the head with CGI effects, I was being hit over the head with THIS IS THE MESSAGE. To call Life of Pi ham-handed is an insult to both ham and hands.


I agree with this.  While it was a beautiful flim and the best and most convincing use of CGI I've seen it was a simplistic spiritual unification parable stretched over too much time.  I would still reccomend it for the visuals alone.
 
2013-01-03 03:29:05 PM  

unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.


This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html
 
2013-01-03 03:35:38 PM  
A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.
 
2013-01-03 03:39:38 PM  

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.
 
2013-01-03 03:42:14 PM  

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


I'm right there with you, well except I loved the books and LOTR movies. But I have no desire to see The Hobbit. I think it's the blatant cash grab of splitting the single book into another trilogy that just turned me off of it.
 
2013-01-03 03:51:04 PM  

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


LOTR is horribly written.  The Hobbit gets a pass because it's YA Fiction.  Otherwise, it's really just a travelogue with a dragon thrown in.  For me, it's still kind of a fun book because it doesn't have the gravitas that Tolkein gave everything else he ever wrote.  His universe is incredible--it's just a damn shame he's so bad at writing about it.  He spends as much time describing a blade of grass as he does Eowyn defeating the Witch King.  It's just awful to slog through so I don't blame anyone for not enjoying the books.

The movies, though--your response surprises me.  Unless you're just not a fantasy fan (and there's obviously nothing wrong with that), the LOTR movies were pretty damn good.  Yeah, it dragged in parts (usually during anything involving Arwen) but overall they were done well.  Even RT.com gives all three movies an average of 94%.  Maybe your LOTR geek friends have just hyped up Tolkein to the point where you're just tired of it?

In either event, don't see Hobbit.  If you didn't like the three LOTR movies, you'll positively hate The Hobbit.
 
2013-01-03 03:52:52 PM  
I thought The Avengers was pretty good, actually. I think they handled a lot of goofy ass characters at the same time pretty well. The villain was a little weak but overall it was a decent film.
 
2013-01-03 04:21:00 PM  

brigid_fitch: The movies, though--your response surprises me.  Unless you're just not a fantasy fan (and there's obviously nothing wrong with that), the LOTR movies were pretty damn good.


I actually AM a fantasy fan.  But having never made it past the first book, despite multiple times throughout my life to do so, I just didn't have the reference to really care about the characters I think.  Outside of Frodo and  Gandalf, I can't even remember any of the characters' names.  Well, maybe Sam, but that's because he had such an intense man-crush on Frodo.  About the only thing from any of the movies I liked was Gollum, and thought the actor should have walked away with an academy award for doing everything he had to do for that role.

But the rest of it, I don't know why I just can't dig on it.  I mean, I AM a fantasy fan, and Tolkien basically created the template for almost every fantasy setting since then.  But LotR itself is just out of my grasp of interest.  It's like soccer for me:  I want to have an interest in it, since everyone else in the world seems to love it, but only rarely can I muster up enough interest to care.
 
2013-01-03 04:26:52 PM  

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


I agree. Saw it with the wife earlier this week.

It's good, but they could have easily left about an hour of it on the cutting room floor and the movie wouldn't have suffered one bit.

That was the real strength of the LOTR films. Jackson took a rambling, incoherent mess of a story and pared it down into a (relatively) tight narrative that moves from beginning to end with a purpose. In this case, Jackson took a fairly straight-forward story and added pointless sequences that don't move the story forward.

/yay money!
 
2013-01-03 04:34:34 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.
 
2013-01-03 04:34:59 PM  
I actually enjoyed the Avengers... My favorite part (***Spoiler Alert - so stop reading now if you don't want to know***) was when the Hulk grabbed Loki mid sentence and whooped his ass. I laughed heartily at that. :)
 
2013-01-03 04:38:00 PM  
[Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?
 
2013-01-03 04:38:04 PM  
Oh man. 2600 respondents in an online poll that had only 7 choices out of all the movies of 2012? Choices that didn't even include some of the biggest movies of the year like Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall? How very scientific.
 
2013-01-03 04:39:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

This; "overrated" IMHO is when a movie is super-hyped but delivers little in return. "The Avengers" was nothing of the sort: It delivered and then some.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

Haven't seen it but from the reviews it's pretty much a "meh".

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

Might have to check this out.

 
2013-01-03 04:39:11 PM  

JohnnyC: I actually enjoyed the Avengers... My favorite part (***Spoiler Alert - so stop reading now if you don't want to know***) was when the Hulk grabbed Loki mid sentence and whooped his ass. I laughed heartily at that. :)


Totally agree.

I likened that to the Indiana Jones moment when he pulled out the gun and casually shot the schimatar wielding badass.
 
2013-01-03 04:39:26 PM  

Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.


It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.
 
2013-01-03 04:41:42 PM  

Apos: AdolfOliverPanties: Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.


You won't regret it. It's Jack Black's best role to date.


not exactly a high bar
 
2013-01-03 04:42:34 PM  

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


The thought behind it is he can control it up to a point, but if it's a fear or adrenaline-induced tranformation (like the fact that he didn't trust anyone on the ship, the scepter was affecting the heroes, and then the sudden explosion)  he has very little control over it. The Hulk enters self-preservation mode instead of kick-all-the-bad-guy's-asses mode that he does later.
 
2013-01-03 04:43:51 PM  
StopLurkListen:

Remember that Loki's pokey-stick was influencing them all to violence at the time.  He may have had relative control over the Hulk at that point, unless it was incited like that.  You could also make the argument that his choosing to Hulk out allows him that measure of control whereas just getting angry/scared/almost dead would just be a pure primal reaction.
 
2013-01-03 04:44:08 PM  

Shadowknight: But having never made it past the first book, despite multiple times throughout my life to do so, I just didn't have the reference to really care about the characters I think.


One last experiment for you to try -- read until they meet Tom Bombadil, then skip ahead until Tom and Goldberry disappear. Worked for me...

/Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"
 
2013-01-03 04:44:25 PM  

unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.


Overrated != movie you didn't like. Nobody had anything good to say about Prometheus.

I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.
 
2013-01-03 04:45:07 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Bad movie, but "most overrated" would have to go to Skyfall.


Or The Master
 
2013-01-03 04:47:44 PM  

ObeliskToucher: Shadowknight: But having never made it past the first book, despite multiple times throughout my life to do so, I just didn't have the reference to really care about the characters I think.

One last experiment for you to try -- read until they meet Tom Bombadil, then skip ahead until Tom and Goldberry disappear. Worked for me...

/Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"


I read LOTR 3 or 4 times when i was a teenager. I went back to read them last year and the Two Towers is just a farking slog. Too much goddamned scenery. Paragraphs about paths they pass and don't take. I don't know how I got through it before.
 
2013-01-03 04:47:59 PM  

ObeliskToucher: /Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"


Don't get me started there.  I always read the abridged version of Moby Dick, and thought it was a great book.  Then one time a couple years back, I made it my mission to read the unabridged version.  Dear lord, Herman needed an editor.  There were so many parts that were completely unnecessary to the story.  Entire chapters that read like a how-to manual for whaling, discussing diameters for harpoons and various weaves for the ropes.
 
2013-01-03 04:48:04 PM  
"The Avengers" voted most overrated movie of 2012

The Avengers was critically acclaimed and went on to become the third highest grossing movie of all time. So of course that guaranteed someone was going to vote it the most overrated.
 
2013-01-03 04:48:18 PM  

labman: Shadowknight: Agreed 110%. I loved Avengers. Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie. It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck tumbler through.


Just a boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. What the hell, I'll laugh anyway....bhooohahahahahahohohohaha
 
2013-01-03 04:49:12 PM  
Avengers was great. Most overrated should go to Les Mes or Batman.
 
2013-01-03 04:49:21 PM  
Let me second and third the love for Dredd in here. Very well done, really captures the feel of the comics, Karl Urban was great...AND HE KEEPS HIS HELMET ON THE WHOLE TIME AS IT SHOULD BE. Sorry. I still have nightmares about the Stallone monstrosity.

I am also full of sad that there will likely not be a sequel. It's times like this that make me wish I could win some huge multi-million dollar lottery just so I could go to Hollywood and bankroll a movie or two that I really want them to make.
 
2013-01-03 04:49:22 PM  
At what point do we get to vote on the term "overrated" and the people who use it?

I think we can start approaching it as the physiological condition that generates the reaction.


It's called, "Being an insecure asshole." And "Deriving self-worth from literally any opportunity to distinguish yourself from the people you know."
 
2013-01-03 04:50:05 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I agree with every point you've made 100%.

Although I haven't seen Dredd yet, it's on my "gotta watch this" list. I even have it set to go on my hard drive, and I've read that everywere actually (that it's surprisingly good).
 
2013-01-03 04:50:06 PM  

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


My problem was that it felt like a prequel movie, had to show the characters from LOTR and some of their back story(Sauramon). It lead to half the scenes were light-hearted and fun and hobbit-like, then there was a 20 dramatic scene that would have fit perfectly in LOTR, but was a totally different tone from the hobbit.

/Fan-edit that takes all three movies, and crunches them into two hours is going to be amazing.
 
2013-01-03 04:50:12 PM  

brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


This saddens me more than you know. Prometheus was...not very good, but I liked the fan theories that spawned from it. Making it about God/Jesus/whatever is immensely disappointing. For whatever reason, it reminds me of where they took the rebooted Battlestar Galatica. I wanted to beat the crap out of the writers after that ending.
 
2013-01-03 04:50:43 PM  

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


From what I read somewhere else, when Bruce is in danger or attacked, uncontrollable rage Hulk comes out, hence his "sorry" look at SJ as he is turning. When he decides to turn, he can control it.
 
2013-01-03 04:53:26 PM  
I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.
 
2013-01-03 04:53:38 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.


See the movie it is based on. The Raid: Redemption. It's an Indonesian movie that takes place in modern day with no comic book heros. Very very good. And very very violent. A++ would watch again.
 
2013-01-03 04:54:04 PM  

Errk: Award worthy....

[images.wikia.com image 557x739]


Not even the most attractive in the movie...

collider.com
 
2013-01-03 04:54:23 PM  

Errk: Award worthy....

[images.wikia.com image 557x739]


The only reason I might bother to see that film.
 
2013-01-03 04:54:41 PM  
Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?
 
2013-01-03 04:55:22 PM  
The Dark Knight Rises was the biggest disappointment for me....

Most overrated?

 Yeah, probably The Avengers.
 
2013-01-03 04:55:38 PM  

sidcart42: At what point do we get to vote on the term "overrated" and the people who use it?

I think we can start approaching it as the physiological condition that generates the reaction.


It's called, "Being an insecure asshole." And "Deriving self-worth from literally any opportunity to distinguish yourself from the people you know."


So anyone who didn't enjoy a popular movie is mentally ill?
 
2013-01-03 04:56:27 PM  

Fano: labman: Shadowknight: Agreed 110%. I loved Avengers. Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie. It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck tumbler through.

Just a boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. What the hell, I'll laugh anyway....bhooohahahahahahohohohaha


Which is so disappointing; considering the movie that preceded it was friggin' awesome.
 
2013-01-03 04:57:34 PM  
Yeah Avengers is NOWHERE NEAR "most overrated" of 2012.

Then again, "overrated" is a stupid term anyway. Highly rated means that people like it, but overrated means that some people like it more than other people and the other people disagree with the people who like it?

If what we really mean is "overhyped" then it's still not even close

There were a shiatton of major movies in 2012:
- Dark Knight Rises (now THAT is easily the most "overrated")
- Amazing Spiderman
- Avengers
- Prometheus
- Dredd
- MIB 3
- The Hobbit
- Whatever the Pixar movie of the year was (Brave)
- Total Recall (can we call that one most "overhyped"?)
- I still feel like I'm forgetting about 12 movies that would have been considered "major blockbusters" if they weren't lost in the fray
 
2013-01-03 04:58:30 PM  

brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


Add me in. Prometheus made me a sad panda.
 
2013-01-03 04:58:33 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Errk: Award worthy....

[images.wikia.com image 557x739]

Not even the most attractive in the movie...

[collider.com image 850x473]


That dude was pretty hot.
 
2013-01-03 04:59:53 PM  

Esc7: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

See the movie it is based on. The Raid: Redemption. It's an Indonesian movie that takes place in modern day with no comic book heros. Very very good. And very very violent. A++ would watch again.


It's not based on The Raid. It was written well before The Raid, it's just a coincidence that they came out around the same time. I enjoyed The Raid though, even though the subtitles I ended up with sucked ass. Good martial arts flick, but not much more beyond that.
 
2013-01-03 05:00:07 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Errk: Award worthy....

[images.wikia.com image 557x739]

Not even the most attractive in the movie...

[collider.com image 850x473]


You're showing her bad side.
 
2013-01-03 05:01:47 PM  
Lots of mewling quims in this thread.

/got nuttin'
//except the boring observation that the biggest box office success of the year will invariably be regarded as the most over-rated
 
2013-01-03 05:02:06 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen


People frequently point to that scene when talking about that movie, though really, because its pretty much the only thing that stands out as a palatable occurence... Everything, just sorta blends together in a mish-mash.
 
2013-01-03 05:02:26 PM  

PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?


Was it just me, or was the way Bane died really, really shiatty? I actually wasn't even sure if he was dead at first...
 
2013-01-03 05:02:35 PM  

jonny_q: - Dark Knight Rises (now THAT is easily the most "overrated")
- Amazing Spiderman
- Avengers
- Prometheus
- Dredd
- MIB 3
- The Hobbit
- Whatever the Pixar movie of the year was (Brave)
- Total Recall (can we call that one most "overhyped"?)
- I still feel like I'm forgetting about 12 movies that would have been considered "major blockbusters" if they weren't lost in the fray


I had forgotten:
- Skyfall
- Hunger Games
- Jack Reacher
- The new Bourne movie
- Taken 2

It was a really rough year to release a movie that was "good" but not mindblowingly so.
 
2013-01-03 05:02:40 PM  

mjohnson71: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Errk: Award worthy....

[images.wikia.com image 557x739]

Not even the most attractive in the movie...

[collider.com image 850x473]

You're showing her bad side.


i concur
 
2013-01-03 05:04:01 PM  

The Angry Hand of God: PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?

Was it just me, or was the way Bane died really, really shiatty? I actually wasn't even sure if he was dead at first...


Me too. It was just so random and out of nowhere. I kept waiting for him to show up later.
 
2013-01-03 05:04:32 PM  
www.troll.me
 
2013-01-03 05:05:37 PM  

T.rex: People frequently point to that scene when talking about that movie, though really, because its pretty much the only thing that stands out as a palatable occurence... Everything, just sorta blends together in a mish-mash.


Action-wise, sure. But it's not really an action scene. It's a sight-gag.

There were a whole buttload of memorable dialog scenes in the movie.

Most actions movies are like that. The part you remember is not the action but something else.
 
2013-01-03 05:05:42 PM  
Not sure if the poll is right as I fell asleep a half hour into the film.
 
2013-01-03 05:05:55 PM  

gunga galunga: Lots of mewling quims in this thread.


Damn, I got a lot of mileage out of that phrase.

/got nuttin'
//except the boring observation that the biggest box office success of the year will invariably be regarded as the most over-rated


Yeah, but that's what happens when people don't look up the meaning of overrated.
 
2013-01-03 05:06:32 PM  

PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?


So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.
 
2013-01-03 05:06:53 PM  

jonny_q: Yeah Avengers is NOWHERE NEAR "most overrated" of 2012.


Clearly you liked the movie.

Some people didn't like it. A lot of people went to see it. It got a lot of good reviews and broke a lot of records. It wasn't actually very good.
 
2013-01-03 05:08:06 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen


Ditto.

*WHAM* *WHAM* *WHAMWHAMWHAMWHAMWHAM* *BASH* (contemptuous drop to the floor) "Puny God."

/Gets my vote for most epic beating in a movie EVER.
 
2013-01-03 05:09:50 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.


I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."
 
2013-01-03 05:11:11 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen


God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*
 
2013-01-03 05:13:52 PM  
I'm always amazed at the amount of charisma Jeremy Renner doesn't have. He's wooden in everything he's in and just has a d-bag look about him. And of course now that Hollywood has shoved him down our throats as an "action star" they're going to break out the Rom-Coms like with Gerard Butler. Just annoying.

Also, Avengers was great spectacle, bad everything else. Whedon is fine when he's writing his own stuff, but maybe franchise stuff isn't right for him.
 
2013-01-03 05:14:10 PM  

Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*


"Hmph, puny God"
 
2013-01-03 05:16:03 PM  

brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


Just stop. You're a farking idiot.
 
2013-01-03 05:16:58 PM  
What a piss poor poll. The following were the options:

The Avengers
Prometheus
Brave
Ted
Project X
The Master
Cloud Atlas

Three of these movies I've never even heard of and The Avengers is the only one I've actually seen. Why ignore all the bigger name movies that came out this year like The Hunger Games, Batman, Twilight BD Part 2 and Skyfall?
 
2013-01-03 05:17:47 PM  

VoodooTaco: JohnnyC: I actually enjoyed the Avengers... My favorite part (***Spoiler Alert - so stop reading now if you don't want to know***) was when the Hulk grabbed Loki mid sentence and whooped his ass. I laughed heartily at that. :)

Totally agree.

I likened that to the Indiana Jones moment when he pulled out the gun and casually shot the schimatar wielding badass.


Exactly! It was beautiful in it's succinct manner of badassery!
 
2013-01-03 05:18:19 PM  

moothemagiccow: jonny_q: Yeah Avengers is NOWHERE NEAR "most overrated" of 2012.

Clearly you liked the movie.

Some people didn't like it. A lot of people went to see it. It got a lot of good reviews and broke a lot of records. It wasn't actually very good.


Which is fine with me, not everybody's going to like it. It being "overrated" is another matter.
 
2013-01-03 05:18:34 PM  

sidcart42: At what point do we get to vote on the term "overrated" and the people who use it?

I think we can start approaching it as the physiological condition that generates the reaction.


It's called, "Being an insecure asshole." And "Deriving self-worth from literally any opportunity to distinguish yourself from the people you know."


Oh, look how cool and edgy you are.
 
2013-01-03 05:20:06 PM  
Skyfall was EASILY the most overhyped. People were raving about this 10/10 film that was really a 7/10 film with a horrible third act.
 
2013-01-03 05:20:09 PM  

Wholesale Ass: brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

Just stop. You're a farking idiot.


Your.
 
2013-01-03 05:20:20 PM  

Tremolo: I'm always amazed at the amount of charisma Jeremy Renner doesn't have. He's wooden in everything he's in and just has a d-bag look about him.


Yeah... I haven't liked him in anything I've seen him in thus far. He makes a better bad guy than good guy... I can say that much... but mostly because he just inspires a general feeling of dislike automatically.
 
2013-01-03 05:21:18 PM  

way south: I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.


So when you go see the Avengers you expect crap, get crap, enjoy crap.

Therefore, everyone wants crap.
 
2013-01-03 05:22:59 PM  
Avengers was a ton of fun. I enjoyed it both times I watched it.

Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

Skyfall was the most overrated however. Javier Bardem's 'evil plot' was undewhelming which he fails to complete but then somehow accidentally succeeds in the end. I do not see what people saw in this movie.
 
2013-01-03 05:26:28 PM  
I don't know if Brave counts as disappointing, as all the reviews prepared me for what it was by the time I saw it. Pretty disappointing from what I was hoping for six months prior, however.

Hebalo: Skyfall was EASILY the most overhyped. People were raving about this 10/10 film that was really a 7/10 film with a horrible third act.


What, you didn't like Home Alone with Judy Dench and a magical Scotsman?
 
2013-01-03 05:29:42 PM  
Statistically speaking, of COURSE The Avengers was the most overrated. More people went to see it than went to see the other films, and it wasn't exactly a film of substance.

The list:
"The Avengers" 85.39%
"Prometheus" 4.62%
"Brave" 1.02%
"Ted" 3.03%
"Project X" 1.78%
"The Master" 1.78%
"Cloud Atlas" 2.38%

With a loaded list like that and the limited sampling, people voted for the film that they saw and remember liking the least in retrospect. Very few films on the list were bad. Where's "Cabin in the Woods"? "Total Recall"? I wonder how many abstained.
 
2013-01-03 05:30:10 PM  
I really liked Avengers. It didn't hold up as well on a second viewing. And it certainly is deserving of the most overrated movie of the year. Most over rated doesn't mean bad.
 
2013-01-03 05:30:21 PM  

Champion of the Sun: PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?

So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.


Fark the children, he's chasing kitty in Paris.

And furthermore, Prometheus was probably the most gorgeous total waste of time and money that I've ever seen.
 
2013-01-03 05:32:01 PM  
Isn't the concept of overrated a just failure to manage expectations on your part?
 
2013-01-03 05:32:28 PM  

Electromax: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."


Karl Urban doesn't get enough credit for his acting roles... Yeah, he does a lot of crappy movies, but he takes on roles and does well in them, even if everything else around him is a piece of shiat... (*cough* Chronicles of Riddick *cough*)
 
2013-01-03 05:33:15 PM  

Tremolo: I'm always amazed at the amount of charisma Jeremy Renner doesn't have. He's wooden in everything he's in and just has a d-bag look about him.


he was a really good d-bag in the Town.
 
2013-01-03 05:34:11 PM  

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


I got the sense that he wasn't entirely 100% in control. In the case you mention, he was unable to hold the Hulk in, so the Hulk lashed out as the Hulk would. At the end, he was more in control because he controlled the change.
 
2013-01-03 05:34:18 PM  
Everyone is forgetting the second best part.


img801.imageshack.us

Hulk made that movie
 
2013-01-03 05:34:40 PM  

Dissociater: I really liked Avengers. It didn't hold up as well on a second viewing. And it certainly is deserving of the most overrated movie of the year. Most over rated doesn't mean bad.


I've sat with my 4 year old and watched it a bunch of times.

I'll probably never watch TDKR again.

A lot of movies are like that. I'll watch them, tell my friends I liked the movie, but when the opportunity comes to watch the movie again, I just won't do it.
 
2013-01-03 05:35:21 PM  

Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.


if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it
 
2013-01-03 05:35:38 PM  

Errk: Award worthy....

[images.wikia.com image 557x739]


especially seeing her ass in the costume
 
2013-01-03 05:36:22 PM  
Look how cool I am by calling the most profitable movie of the year overrated! Nevermind that it actually managed to successfully and enjoyably tie four separate movies together, something which has probably never been done before!

Oh man, this article is going to get this guy all the free PBRs and disinterested groupies down at the bar.
 
2013-01-03 05:36:22 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*

"Hmph, puny God"


What made it so funny was that it was so random. There was this great setup, like we were going to get some last-minute trump card out of Loki, and then right in the middle of it, Hulk told him "Fark you" in the most awesome way possible without actually saying it.
 
2013-01-03 05:36:37 PM  
I liked the Avengers and DKR. Lots of plot holes in both, but I tend to not over think these sorts of movies. As others have mentioned, Dredd was surprisingly awesome. Hopefully it does well on DVD sales and they'll get to make another.
 
2013-01-03 05:37:49 PM  

moothemagiccow: Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it


If they ran perpendicular instead of parallel, I may have liked it.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:11 PM  
I've gotta stop getting super-blazed before going to see summer blockbusters. I didn't like the Avengers, but I saw it for the 2nd time, coincidentally, this afternoon, after seeing it the first when it was in the theaters. Under no substances. It was nice...real nice. Maybe I should watch TDKR again; I really felt everything was squeeze-forced into the running time. I saw Dredd 3D a couple of days ago; it's gritty. I preferred Avengers. Not overrated.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:31 PM  
Batman was laughably terrible. The voice of Bane completely killed the mood of the movie for me. Could not stay awake.
 
2013-01-03 05:39:38 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Everyone is forgetting the second best part.


[img801.imageshack.us image 150x80]

Hulk made that movie


i want to know if there was a cut bit where thor picks himself out of some rubble, walks over, claps hulk on the back hard enough to stagger him and says 'first round's on me.'
 
2013-01-03 05:41:00 PM  
I remember Prometheus promising us a naked Charlize Theron doing pushups.

Now that's overhyping a project.
 
2013-01-03 05:43:19 PM  
 
2013-01-03 05:45:19 PM  

Champion of the Sun:
So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.


I uh... got a little excessive in my editing. Allow me to give you credit for your post.
 
2013-01-03 05:47:05 PM  

hawcian: brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

This saddens me more than you know. Prometheus was...not very good, but I liked the fan theories that spawned from it. Making it about God/Jesus/whatever is immensely disappointing. For whatever reason, it reminds me of where they took the rebooted Battlestar Galatica. I wanted to beat the crap out of the writers after that ending.


just because there's the jesus thing doesn't mean that it's a literally religious explanation for everything, like in BSG. The two aren't even the same. It's not " God did it."

It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.
 
2013-01-03 05:49:20 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: Champion of the Sun:
So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.

I uh... got a little excessive in my editing. Allow me to give you credit for your post.


Didn't he lose his money by Bane stealing it for that guy who was trying to take over Wayne Enterprises? I thought that was what was happening, kinda forgot. Just know that he lost all his money and never tried to get it back.

Property taxes on Wayne Manor gotta be pretty high. And can Alfred afford vacations to France now that he's a butler for a foster home with no money? Stupid nits to pick, but a throw away line in the movie would've helped.
 
2013-01-03 05:50:08 PM  

I read fark for the pics: Batman was laughably terrible. The voice of Bane completely killed the mood of the movie for me. Could not stay awake.


I really liked the voice until I realized that it was Sean Connery.
 
2013-01-03 05:51:48 PM  

Dr Dreidel: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

Are you forgetting the Ed Norton Hulk movie? He's pretty good as Banner (mostly because he has the "talking like a dork" thing down) - I wonder if he could have survived The Avengers.

That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will? Because they just sort of implied it, and it took me coming up with that explanation on my own to explain the movie. The gap between the end of Ed Norton ("When I lose control...I kinda like it") and the beginning of Ruffalo ("Hi! I work as an underpaid physician in Calcutta to cut down on my stress levels!") could have done with some filling in.

// and I like The Avengers
// my gf - who has seen like 10 movies total in her life - liked it as well, even knowing next to nothing about the Big 4 going in (I had to explain to her who Thor is)


I'm not sure, but I know the hulk will be in 2 cross overs all be it in Thor 2 or 3 or CA 2 or 3.  I don't mind comic book movies, but this is getting spread pretty thin IMHO.
 
2013-01-03 05:52:09 PM  

Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.


I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.
 
2013-01-03 05:53:47 PM  

Champion of the Sun:
Didn't he lose his money by Bane stealing it for that guy who was trying to take over Wayne Enterprises? I thought that was what was happening, kinda forgot. Just know that he lost all his money and never tried to get it back.


from what I could tell WayneCorp wasn't doing so hot before the stock market thingy and from the conversation we have with the orphanage they hadn't been getting support for at least a couple years.
 
2013-01-03 05:55:20 PM  

Kaeishiwaza: moothemagiccow: Kaeishiwaza: Prometheus was a huge let down. Just a mess. Nothing really made sense and there were parts which were just outlandishly absurd.

if they ran the other way you still wouldn't have liked it

If they ran perpendicular instead of parallel, I may have liked it.


No
 
2013-01-03 05:56:42 PM  

SavageWombat: I remember Prometheus promising us a naked Charlize Theron doing pushups.

Now that's overhyping a project.


I thought Monster proved that woman was ugly but damn if Prometheus didn't cement it.
 
2013-01-03 05:57:20 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.

I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.


yeah, don't get me wrong, movie needed more explanation. I'm thinking he was planning on doing more in the next movie but yeah there was a lot of context missing and what looked awesome in a trailer was a mess of a script onscreen.

/ running from a rolling spaceship
// don't even think to run left or right to get out of the way
/// stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
2013-01-03 05:57:27 PM  

buttery_shame_cave: i want to know if there was a cut bit where thor picks himself out of some rubble, walks over, claps hulk on the back hard enough to stagger him and says 'first round's on me.'


You're thinking of this movie.

img707.imageshack.us

also a super classic
 
2013-01-03 05:58:39 PM  

Snark Shark II: hawcian: brigid_fitch: unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.

This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

This saddens me more than you know. Prometheus was...not very good, but I liked the fan theories that spawned from it. Making it about God/Jesus/whatever is immensely disappointing. For whatever reason, it reminds me of where they took the rebooted Battlestar Galatica. I wanted to beat the crap out of the writers after that ending.

just because there's the jesus thing doesn't mean that it's a literally religious explanation for everything, like in BSG. The two aren't even the same. It's not " God did it."

It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.


Not to mention the film takes place on Christmas day, we have the backstory of the protagonist being all about her faith, One of the engineers LITERALLY giving up his body and blood for us. We have an immaculate conception of sorts, and the last known appearance of the Engineers on Earth was "about 2000 years ago".

The movie is loaded with nods to Christianity.
 
2013-01-03 05:59:11 PM  
The Avengers movie was promised to be a good super hero movie. It delivered in spades. Nobody was expecting Citizen Kane.

TDKR was a little bit of a let down. Way too many plot holes for me. Not enough Batman being a bad-ass detective. One thing I did like was Catwoman. They didn't foist her out there in a cat costume. They just added some goggle things and threw in a wink - Catwoman. It was simple and it worked.
 
2013-01-03 06:00:32 PM  
Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.
 
2013-01-03 06:01:22 PM  

brigid_fitch:
/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html


well, to be fair: if there is one true god and Jesus really was his son I'd think that any aliens that knew about us killing him would be pretty damn pissed.
 
2013-01-03 06:11:03 PM  

Electromax: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."


Am I the only one who, while watching the Slo-Mo drug scenes in Dredd, thought "I gotta get me some of this shiat."
 
2013-01-03 06:11:59 PM  

Plant Rights Activist:
the better question is: how did he lose it in the first place? He's not batmanning, he's not doing any public events and he's not even keeping an eye on Waynecorp for what like 8 years. What happened? Did he get suckered into World of Warcraft or something?


This is stated quite explicitly in the film multiple times including directly in answer to his question of "where has all my money gone". He funneled the company's resources into the fusion reactor project which he then refused to turn on or earn any money from.

How do you not get this?
 
2013-01-03 06:12:55 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: brigid_fitch:
/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html

well, to be fair: if there is one true god and Jesus really was his son I'd think that any aliens that knew about us killing him would be pretty damn pissed.


It's all ridiculous. These 'advanced' engineers send one guy down in ancient times and if they don't follow his lead and be nice then they're going to wipe out the entire population? They were surprised when these not so advanced humans turn out to still be savages? Then when they meet humans again, they are more advanced, but do they give them a chance to prove themselves? No, they are still head-rippinly mad.
 
2013-01-03 06:12:56 PM  

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.

The awesome power is that he can turn into this indestructible killing machine that is pretty dumb but fantastically hefty. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The Hulk"

The sucky power is that he sometimes freaks out and can't control himself. That uncontrollable guy turns into The Hulk because it allows him more ability to fark shiat up. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The other guy."

Note, Banner did not say, "I put a bullet in my mouth. The Hulk spat it out." He said "The other guy spat it out." At first, I thought they were trying to not say The Hulk for some reason, but later, they freely refer to him as The Hulk. Cap even gives him the classic line as an order, "Hulk... Smash."

Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.
 
2013-01-03 06:15:50 PM  

Wayne 985: The first Thor was godawful


cdn.fd.uproxx.com

/what movie did you watch?
 
2013-01-03 06:16:09 PM  

Champion of the Sun: PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?

So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.


I think he didn't when the movie ended. But I'm sure he had enough squirreled away in offshore accounts (judging from the end scene, he wasn't a homeless bum).
 
2013-01-03 06:16:27 PM  
are there any good movies any more?

and,

are there any movies any more that aren't comics? seriously, what's with all the comics?
 
2013-01-03 06:17:28 PM  
StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

It's pretty obvious that when Banner initiates the transformation, he has much better control and/or is more "present" than when the transformation is forced upon him. Notice after he initiates the transformation in New York, he sticks close to the other Avengers instead of rampaging all over the place - he even responds when Cap called his name.
 
2013-01-03 06:17:36 PM  
According to more than 2,600 respondents to a Times online survey...

Sounds legit...

Personally, I enjoyed it. It was fun, and only slightly more unbelievable than any other comic book movie. "Most overrated"? I don't know, but I personally got enough enjoyment out of it to get my money's worth.
 
2013-01-03 06:17:52 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Plant Rights Activist:
the better question is: how did he lose it in the first place? He's not batmanning, he's not doing any public events and he's not even keeping an eye on Waynecorp for what like 8 years. What happened? Did he get suckered into World of Warcraft or something?

This is stated quite explicitly in the film multiple times including directly in answer to his question of "where has all my money gone". He funneled the company's resources into the fusion reactor project which he then refused to turn on or earn any money from.

How do you not get this?


unless he's building the thing brick by brick by himself I don't see how he wouldn't have the time to do some public events or you know... make sure the orphans are still getting paid. I mean seriously, what was he doing with all that time? Masterbatting?
 
2013-01-03 06:20:43 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Plant Rights Activist:
the better question is: how did he lose it in the first place? He's not batmanning, he's not doing any public events and he's not even keeping an eye on Waynecorp for what like 8 years. What happened? Did he get suckered into World of Warcraft or something?

This is stated quite explicitly in the film multiple times including directly in answer to his question of "where has all my money gone". He funneled the company's resources into the fusion reactor project which he then refused to turn on or earn any money from.

How do you not get this?

unless he's building the thing brick by brick by himself I don't see how he wouldn't have the time to do some public events or you know... make sure the orphans are still getting paid. I mean seriously, what was he doing with all that time? Masterbatting?


Being a rich recluse. Sure, if he HAD paid enough attention maybe he could have done something about it, but he simply wasn't because he was having issues. That was pretty well established.
 
2013-01-03 06:21:17 PM  

proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 06:22:55 PM  

sprawl15: proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?

[i.imgur.com image 284x405]


Nope, sorry. If people started liking that movie then everyone on this tab would start talking about how much it sucked and how many problems it had.

No movie is perfect, you ninnyhammers (except maybe Casablanca) and the Avengers was awesome.
 
2013-01-03 06:23:07 PM  
Sorry Whedonites, Avengers was good, but not great. The fact that people are trotting out the "It doesn't have to be Shakespeare or Citizen Kane" arguments is proof of it's storytelling quality.

It's good dumb entertainment, but it's still dumb entertainment.
 
2013-01-03 06:25:48 PM  

proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?

and,

are there any movies any more that aren't comics? seriously, what's with all the comics?


Safety Not Guaranteed and Moonrise Kingdom were both original good movies.
 
2013-01-03 06:26:59 PM  

PsyLord: Champion of the Sun: PsyLord: Although I did enjoy TDKR, I thought it was way overhyped. One of the most absurd parts was the stock market assault and then what happened to Bruce Wayne after that. Really? No one thought it was fishy? None of the stock brokers inside made statements about them doing something to the system? Really?

So did Wayne get his money back? Fox said if they worked a long time they could unravel the transfers of his money I think? If Bruce was so dedicated to helping fostered children, seems like working to get his billions back might be a good idea.

I think he didn't when the movie ended. But I'm sure he had enough squirreled away in offshore accounts (judging from the end scene, he wasn't a homeless bum).


Exactly. This is supposedly a plot hole even before the end. "How did he get back to Gotham without money/resources?" This is a case where the answer actually is, "He's Batman". Of course he's prepared. For me it's a memorized phone number + hidden accounts on each continent to reach the type of people who flew him out of China in TDK. I feel bad for people who don't even try to fill in the blanks during movies and need everything to happen on screen.
 
2013-01-03 06:27:11 PM  
Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.
 
2013-01-03 06:31:21 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin Aquaman along!"


/More appropriate.
 
2013-01-03 06:31:48 PM  

proteus_b: are there any movies any more that aren't comics?


i.imgur.com

I advise everyone to watch this movie right now.
 
2013-01-03 06:33:34 PM  

89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.


^^ *THIS* ^^
That Bourne movie was supposed to be awesome, right? If it had been on the poll, it probably would have won.
 
2013-01-03 06:36:24 PM  

Snark Shark II: Champion of the Sun: Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.

I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.

yeah, don't get me wrong, movie needed more explanation. I'm thinking he was planning on doing more in the next movie but yeah there was a lot of context missing and what looked awesome in a trailer was a mess of a script onscreen.

/ running from a rolling spaceship
// don't even think to run left or right to get out of the way
/// stupid, stupid, stupid.


it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out? Now I understand why avengers was so popular. Hold on Bruce, let's put this in terms Hulk can understand
 
2013-01-03 06:39:51 PM  
Avengers was fun while watching it, but bland and forgettable. Good popcorn movie, but nothing I'll ever likely watch again at home. Reminds me a lot of Batman '89 in a lot of ways. Batman '89 was a mediocre movie that did huge business because of great marketing and great timing. Same thing with Avengers. Like Batman, I doubt many people will really remember much about the movie 20 years from now, but they'll certainly remember the hype surrounding it.
 
2013-01-03 06:40:23 PM  

Decillion: Exactly. This is supposedly a plot hole even before the end. "How did he get back to Gotham without money/resources?" This is a case where the answer actually is, "He's Batman". Of course he's prepared. For me it's a memorized phone number + hidden accounts on each continent to reach the type of people who flew him out of China in TDK. I feel bad for people who don't even try to fill in the blanks during movies and need everything to happen on screen.


I was talking about getting the money stolen during the stock market scene back, and thought he'd want the money for the foster kids and not himself. They read his will on screen, that seems like a pretty good time to be all like, all the money stolen by Bane goes to Punky Brewster or something.

You're right though, the people who think him getting back to Gotham is a plot hole are stupid. Especially when it's been established in the movies that he was able to travel freely with no money or identification.
 
2013-01-03 06:43:57 PM  

dj_spanmaster: Statistically speaking, of COURSE The Avengers was the most overrated. More people went to see it than went to see the other films, and it wasn't exactly a film of substance.

The list:
"The Avengers" 85.39%
"Prometheus" 4.62%
"Brave" 1.02%
"Ted" 3.03%
"Project X" 1.78%
"The Master" 1.78%
"Cloud Atlas" 2.38%

With a loaded list like that and the limited sampling, people voted for the film that they saw and remember liking the least in retrospect. Very few films on the list were bad. Where's "Cabin in the Woods"? "Total Recall"? I wonder how many abstained.


It would've made tons more sense to compare Avengers to the other big-name summer blockbusters. Personally, John Blake Rises is the most overrated film this year. I haven't seen so many people rush to defend mediocrity since Tony Romo cost his team a chance at the playoffs.
 
2013-01-03 06:45:54 PM  

browneye: "The Avengers" voted most overrated movie of 2012

The Avengers was critically acclaimed and went on to become the third highest grossing movie of all time. So of course that guaranteed someone was going to vote it the most overrated.


The Avengers was fun which is what I want in a movie
Prometheus was crap and after the first 10 to 15 mins I was rooting for everyone in it to die since they were too stupid to live
 
2013-01-03 06:49:06 PM  

89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything other than "The Town" and "The Avengers" with Jeremy Renner is a let down.



FTFY.

/Decent actor with a spotty record.
 
2013-01-03 06:51:55 PM  
I loved The Avengers. I have watched it 5 or 6 times. Sure there were some goofy parts, and unbelievable scenes, but that wasn't the point. I'm a Joss Wheden fanboy, and I think he did a great job with something that could have easily been a huge mess. I don't think people give him enough credit for pulling off an almost impossible task. The movie was fun, gorgeous, had good casting (for the most part), great pace, and funny parts without overdoing it. It delivered exactly what it was supposed to, and I am glad Joss is doing the next one. Sundance award winning movie? Nope. Helluva ride? Yep.

Promethius can lick my taint. THAT was a huge disappointment, but it was a pretty movie to look at. It tried to be "deep" and failed miserably. A couple interesting ideas that could have gone somewhere cool, but the cast, overall plot, and the sheer stupidity of the characters blew it.
 
2013-01-03 06:57:08 PM  

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


Maybe it's because I haven't read The Hobbit since I was a kid, but I found the movie to be completely enjoyable. I wished they'd just show all 9 hours in one sitting. I would have stayed. I have lots of patience though.
 
2013-01-03 06:57:51 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I like yours better than mine.

/Dredd was surprisingly good.


it really exceeded expectations
 
2013-01-03 07:00:30 PM  

vrax: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

Maybe it's because I haven't read The Hobbit since I was a kid, but I found the movie to be completely enjoyable. I wished they'd just show all 9 hours in one sitting. I would have stayed. I have lots of patience though.


I must be the only person in the universe that meets the following criteria:

1. Read the hobbit and LOTR, completely
B. wasn't bored by them
Ɣ. Loved the hobbit movie and all three LOTR movies
 
2013-01-03 07:00:46 PM  
The Grey was another woefully under appreciated flick from last year, due in part to its pitiful marketing. I can't say enough great things about that flick. Excellent supporting cast, stunning cinematography, excellent pacing and a riveting performance from Liam Neeson.

Fantastic film.
 
2013-01-03 07:02:47 PM  
What's wrong with you people? Avengers was fantastic. To have that many major characters fit together in a story that well is an art. And be funny. And have good action. And oh by the way ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD HULK! Man, and I thought I was a bitter asshole. You guys take the cake. And no I've never been a comic book fan.

Dark Knight Rises? That was merely not as great as it could have been. A good edit could fix that.

But Prometheus was so bad it hurt.
 
2013-01-03 07:04:15 PM  

gingerjet: Wayne 985: The first Thor was godawful

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/what movie did you watch?


as i've said elsewhere, i am painfully straight, but godDAMN that is a fine fine hunk of man-flesh...
 
2013-01-03 07:07:57 PM  

PanicMan: What's wrong with you people? Avengers was fantastic. To have that many major characters fit together in a story that well is an art. And be funny. And have good action. And oh by the way ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD HULK! Man, and I thought I was a bitter asshole. You guys take the cake. And no I've never been a comic book fan.

Dark Knight Rises? That was merely not as great as it could have been. A good edit could fix that.

But Prometheus was so bad it hurt.


You know how when you touch a woman's boobies and the feel like a bag of sand?
 
2013-01-03 07:11:45 PM  

velvet_fog: Avengers was fun while watching it, but bland and forgettable. Good popcorn movie, but nothing I'll ever likely watch again at home. Reminds me a lot of Batman '89 in a lot of ways. Batman '89 was a mediocre movie that did huge business because of great marketing and great timing. Same thing with Avengers. Like Batman, I doubt many people will really remember much about the movie 20 years from now, but they'll certainly remember the hype surrounding it.


Wow really? I can remember Batman '89 pretty well, scenes, memorable lines, the stupid farking Prince song that got thrown into the sound track and all. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. Maybe if they were pretty young when the movie came out or something I could see forgetting a lot about it, but even then it still doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
2013-01-03 07:12:39 PM  

dirtyeffinhippie: Promethius can lick my taint. THAT was a huge disappointment, but it was a pretty movie to look at. It tried to be "deep" and failed miserably. A couple interesting ideas that could have gone somewhere cool, but the cast, overall plot, and the sheer stupidity of the characters blew it.


Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.
 
2013-01-03 07:13:54 PM  

89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.


The next time you have a few hours to spare you should check out The Assassination of Jesse James.
 
2013-01-03 07:18:05 PM  

Eunuch Provocateur: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.

The next time you have a few hours to spare you should check out The Assassination of Jesse James.


I liked him in the newest Bourne movie. I went into it with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised.
 
2013-01-03 07:18:27 PM  
"Prometheus." Seriously.
 
2013-01-03 07:19:01 PM  
I'm fairly certain I watched it. But I don't remember anything about it.
 
2013-01-03 07:19:42 PM  

vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.


I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...
 
2013-01-03 07:22:42 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


Judge Dredd has little to no penetration in the U.S. It did about as well as I expected it to.
 
2013-01-03 07:23:04 PM  

Champion of the Sun: all the money stolen by Bane


Bane didn't steal the money, that was the whole trick. He made terrible market bets in Wayne's name so nearly all his money would be lost. That money went to other people in the market, many of whom were soon deprived of their homes and riches anyway. Ehh, some of it probably went to the board guy who got killed by Bane after he was no longer useful. Miranda was rich anyway and it would have been suspicious if she took it.
 
2013-01-03 07:24:16 PM  

Yotto: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.

The awesome power is that he can turn into this indestructible killing machine that is pretty dumb but fantastically hefty. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The Hulk"

The sucky power is that he sometimes freaks out and can't control himself. That uncontrollable guy turns into The Hulk because it allows him more ability to fark shiat up. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The other guy."

Note, Banner did not say, "I put a bullet in my mouth. The Hulk spat it out." He said "The other guy spat it out." At first, I thought they were trying to not say The Hulk for some reason, but later, they freely refer to him as The Hulk. Cap even gives him the classic line as an order, "Hulk... Smash."

Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.


That's more or less how I read it. Basically his anger (which he says always has) allows him to turn into The Hulk at will, and when done voluntarily he maintains control. However, if his anger gets the best of him (as happened on the helicarrier) you get mindless rage machine other guy hulk that has no self control (attacking anyone that moves), sense of self preservation (jumping onto a plane and tearing it to pieces), etc. Banner's terrified of the latter so up until the end opts to try and bottle up both.
 
2013-01-03 07:25:35 PM  

Pocket Ninja: Bad movie, but "most overrated" would have to go to Skyfall.


No way. Avengers might have been better than Skyfall (MIGHT), but Skyfall doesn't have a sizable portion of nerd culture splooging over it and rabidly calling it the best movie of the year. Avengers entirely deserves the title of "Most Overrated Film of 2012".

/Enjoyed both Skyfall and Avengers, but both were "Meh" overall. Neither worth buying on Blu Ray unless they're part of a retrospective
 
2013-01-03 07:30:27 PM  
MIB 3 was better
 
2013-01-03 07:31:18 PM  
Yes, I agree.  After seeing it, I went back to see it three more times just to express my outrage.  Then I bought it on Blu-Ray and expressed my outrage another dozen times.

/And counting
 
2013-01-03 07:32:49 PM  

dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...


Yeah, I would give it a shot. I don't mean that I wasn't a bit disappointed when I saw it in the theater. However, when I let the hype that I'd built up for myself (which was substantial) fade away, I realized that the movie was far more enjoyable and thought-provoking than I initially gave it credit for. In a way, the film felt a little backwards or front heavy in that the one thing I thought they did superbly well is the opening sequence. IMHO, that was a first-rate little bit of sci-fi cinema and grabbed me right away. If the rest of the film had risen to that level, it would have been a masterpiece.
 
2013-01-03 07:32:54 PM  
Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.
 
2013-01-03 07:33:59 PM  
The Dark Knight Rises insulted me on so many levels. I should have expected it though, Nolan movies never stand up to rational thinking. Inception being the best example of his style: massive plot holes, unnecessary characters, and nonsensical motivations.

Avengers was awesome, I can't stand Whedon and I still liked it.
 
2013-01-03 07:34:49 PM  

Shadowknight: Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

Agreed 110%.  I loved Avengers.  Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie.  It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck through.


Pretty much. It was by far the most overrated movie of the year for me. It was good but not great. I wouldn't put Prometheus on that list though because it was crap from beginning to end.
 
2013-01-03 07:35:05 PM  

Errk: Award worthy....

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SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Errk: Award worthy....

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Not even the most attractive in the movie...

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2013-01-03 07:37:06 PM  
I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.
 
2013-01-03 07:37:57 PM  

carmody: "Prometheus." Seriously.


Has to be this. First, the rumors surrounding an Alien prequel had been swirling for years. Second, Scott comes back to direct it after stating he'd not do such a thing. You have a very, very rich universe already established, and a method to tell a story that leads up to the spaceship first being discovered in Alien. Could have easily told that story and directly or indirectly linked it to Alien however much you wanted.

Instead we get a convoluted hot mess aimed at telling a story about the origins of humanity that never gets close to being explained. It has no real link to Alien and while Scott said it wasn't his intention, why wasn't it?? That movie could have been made with no connection whatsoever to the Alien universe and probably been better off for it to boot. Setting a movie as a 'sort of but not really prequel' in the Alien universe just seems like a way to drum up interest rather than the movie actually be the result of an interesting story to tell in the same universe.

Visually I thought the movie was fantastic. I had to see it in 3D and even thought the use of it was really well done and I typically hate 3D. I thought the actors largely did a great job with what they were given. But the story? Fark that. It was so...uninteresting...I don't even care if they do try to fix or resolve it with a sequel.
 
2013-01-03 07:39:45 PM  
Gwynth Paltrow should get punched in the face.
 
2013-01-03 07:40:33 PM  

Suede head: Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.


Must. Not. Bite.
 
2013-01-03 07:43:39 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: It was so...uninteresting...I don't even care if they do try to fix or resolve it with a sequel.


So when the sequel DOES come out, and you DON'T watch it, and it DOES explain everything, can we count on this being the reason why you suck at life so much?
 
2013-01-03 07:43:40 PM  

StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?


the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.
 
2013-01-03 07:46:05 PM  
The Hobbit was fantastic. No it didn't match up with my imagination, but I thought it was a great interpretation of the book.

If you didn't like it, feel free not to watch the other two, I guess?
 
2013-01-03 07:46:07 PM  

Shrugging Atlas: Suede head: Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.

Must. Not. Bite.


I will. FARK 9/11!
 
2013-01-03 07:47:38 PM  

CSM101: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.


Except for the end, when it stands around and takes orders?
 
2013-01-03 07:48:39 PM  

Zombie DJ: I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.


awwww, you're SO cute! That 'I'M A BIG BAD TOUGH GUY ON THE WEBZ' thing is so adorable. You must feel so protected with your fan base of 1,000 people who saw this movie 15 times in the theater.
 
2013-01-03 07:51:12 PM  

texdent: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

And Guardians of the Galaxy.


God, I want to see a Guardians movie SO BAD. I also hope it gets released before Justice League, just so we can say that Rocket Raccoon got a major movie release before Flash, Aquaman, and co.
 
2013-01-03 07:51:21 PM  

ArminiusTheGreat: Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.


More likely the fanboys who were terrified that the movie was going to be a complete failure and it actually worked as a decent movie. (though maybe there's a bit of fanboy nostalgia in there too, though the Avengers comics weren't all that popular compared to X-Men and Spiderman and Wolverine.)

NOT a great movie. Not even one of the top 10 movies of 2012. But it worked, it was decent, and can be a pretty decent basis for future movies.
 
2013-01-03 07:55:11 PM  

dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...


Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?

Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?

The movie was just stupid. The script was stupid.

But at least they all died in the end.
 
2013-01-03 07:56:09 PM  

Wholesale Ass: Zombie DJ: I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.

awwww, you're SO cute! That 'I'M A BIG BAD TOUGH GUY ON THE WEBZ' thing is so adorable. You must feel so protected with your fan base of 1,000 people who saw this movie 15 times in the theater.



Zombie DJ didn't care for the opinions of Steven Zeitchik or more than 2,600 respondents to a Times online survey, what the fark makes you think he cares about your opinion?
 
2013-01-03 07:57:47 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: vrax: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

Maybe it's because I haven't read The Hobbit since I was a kid, but I found the movie to be completely enjoyable. I wished they'd just show all 9 hours in one sitting. I would have stayed. I have lots of patience though.

I must be the only person in the universe that meets the following criteria:

1. Read the hobbit and LOTR, completely
B. wasn't bored by them
Ɣ. Loved the hobbit movie and all three LOTR movies


Nope, you're not the only one. Anyone who didn't like the movie The Hobbit is obviously a Hobbit molester and just felt uncomfortable watching that hobbity hawtness surrounded by all those dwarves.
 
2013-01-03 07:59:51 PM  

Wholesale Ass: So when the sequel DOES come out, and you DON'T watch it, and it DOES explain everything, can we count on this being the reason why you suck at life so much?


Ridley's Fark user name revealed! While I have your attention, your Robin Hood film was vastly worse than Prometheus and made me hope you'd live long enough so that wasn't your last film. The Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut was excellent though. The studio really boned you on the theatrical release, but you already know that. As for the Prometheus sequel, I'll pass despite whatever impact it has on my life.
 
2013-01-03 08:01:40 PM  

CujoQuarrel: dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...

Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?

Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?

The movie was just stupid. The script was stupid.

But at least they all died in the end.


Those are your complaints? They all died in the end? Did you see the movie?
 
2013-01-03 08:06:57 PM  

Eunuch Provocateur: CSM101: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

the implication is he could control the transformation, not Big Green itself.

Except for the end, when it stands around and takes orders?


The Hulk always had a persona of it's own, and depending on what particular persona it is, it has access to banner's intellect. He was only goes mindlessly smashy when something triggers it, like say, a sudden transformation.
 
2013-01-03 08:08:56 PM  

CujoQuarrel: Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?


You've just encountered something that you would probably assume to be a hallucination. Is your immediate reaction to go to the doctor?


CujoQuarrel: Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?


Complaining about the physiology of an imaginary alien species, especially when you don't know what else is in the "room with no food supplies" aside from the med-unit, is almost as dumb as running directly away from a large wheel rolling toward you.

I'm not defending the movie, mind you, I was terribly disappointed by it, but when finding things to biatch about, you could at least pick things that don't make you sound like a dufus.

/At least you're not one of the "Shaw didn't have gloves on inside the ship, but in the next scene outside of the ship she's wearing gloves. That's a terrible plot-hole!" people.
 
2013-01-03 08:12:09 PM  

Champion of the Sun: PanicMan: What's wrong with you people? Avengers was fantastic. To have that many major characters fit together in a story that well is an art. And be funny. And have good action. And oh by the way ACTUALLY HAVE A GOOD HULK! Man, and I thought I was a bitter asshole. You guys take the cake. And no I've never been a comic book fan.

Dark Knight Rises? That was merely not as great as it could have been. A good edit could fix that.

But Prometheus was so bad it hurt.

You know how when you touch a woman's boobies and the feel like a bag of sand?


Sorry, I don't really know what a bag of sand feels like.
 
2013-01-03 08:15:26 PM  

Apos: AdolfOliverPanties: Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.


You won't regret it. It's Jack Black's best role to date.


No, that's still him getting his arm shot off in The Jackal.
 
2013-01-03 08:21:30 PM  
The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers
 
2013-01-03 08:23:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I agree with you on every count.

Dredd was crazy graphic ... so I immediately told all my buddies
 
2013-01-03 08:34:45 PM  

Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers


No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.
 
2013-01-03 08:37:36 PM  

vrax: CujoQuarrel: dirtyeffinhippie: vrax: Overhype was it's biggest enemy, by far. I've now seen it a couple of times and it's pretty solid, actually better on second viewing. If I was unwilling to overlook an odd decision in films here or there I'd never like anything, but Prometheus, while it could have been better, was not bad by any measure. Currently, my primary issue with the film is that after seeing all the Blu-Ray extras, I call bullshiat on many of the cuts made. They explain why they did what they did, but I wished they had worried less about time and more about fleshing things out. Scott's discarding of the awesome CGI Fifield sequence was a bonehead decision, IMHO.

I'm always willing to give a movie a second chance. Perhaps I'll check out a director's cut when I'm really high or something...

Did they explain why on earth someone who saw a testicle coming out of their eyeball didn't go off screaming to sick bay?

Or how that monster grew a factor , of what about 20, while locked in a room with no food supplies?

The movie was just stupid. The script was stupid.

But at least they all died in the end.

Those are your complaints? They all died in the end? Did you see the movie?


Of course I saw the movie. All of them dying in the end was it's only redeeming feature. I was rooting for that from the moment I saw them land on the planet without even orbiting it once to check it out.
 
2013-01-03 08:48:12 PM  
did they NOT see twilight? Which of course I can understand.
 
2013-01-03 08:52:30 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.


Which is a totally valid criticism of Transformers while entirely missing the point I made. The main defenses of Avengers are the same defenses that are typically used to defend Transformers  - that the movies made lots of money and that they were supposed to be popcorn movies.

/Hipsters gonna hipster isn't a defense of the movie, it's an attack on the critics of the movie, hence why it's not listed as a defense of the movie even while it's employed quite often in this thread.
 
2013-01-03 08:53:04 PM  

Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers


I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.
 
2013-01-03 08:57:59 PM  
I was disappointed in Avengers the first time I saw it.  So much corny dialog.  For some reason I had a much better opinion second time around, maybe because I knew the cornball was coming and ignored it.
 
2013-01-03 09:07:12 PM  
Avengers was alright until the alien invasion. wtf was up with that. Worst. invasion plan. ever. Just float around or hang on a building wall. Like a bunch of high school kids at a dance.
 
2013-01-03 09:07:40 PM  

Mugato: Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.


I agree. This doesn't mean that the Avengers deserves the accolades that fanboys are giving it, nor does it mean that the movie doesn't deserve to be called overrated. It was a far better movie in nearly all aspects than any of the Transformers movies... but the defenses are similar. When the defenses are similar for crappy movies like the Transformers movies as for a supposedly "Great" movie like defenders claim the Avengers was, then that should be a red flag that the movie isn't as great as it could be.

/If someone is defending two actress with "She is a redhead with boobs!" where one is Kathy Griffin and the other is Christina Hendricks... they might want to rethink the "She is a redhead with boobs!" defense.
 
2013-01-03 09:08:12 PM  

Shadowknight: ObeliskToucher: /Same tactic can be used to get past the dreadful Sermon chapter in "Moby Dick"

Don't get me started there.  I always read the abridged version of Moby Dick, and thought it was a great book.  Then one time a couple years back, I made it my mission to read the unabridged version.  Dear lord, Herman needed an editor.  There were so many parts that were completely unnecessary to the story.  Entire chapters that read like a how-to manual for whaling, discussing diameters for harpoons and various weaves for the ropes.


Try reading 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea sometime. You'll be on the edge of you seat as they list page after page of scientific names of the creatures they see.
 
2013-01-03 09:11:07 PM  

Yotto: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.
....
Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.


Banner has a split personality, and anger management issues. He cannot control the Hulk, but by this movie he has at least learned to control the transformation for the most part. Ironically, not by trying to control his anger, but by learning to maintain his aggressive feelings to a level that will not trigger the reaction out of turn. Which gels nicely between the last scene of the Incredible Hulk with Norton, and Ruffalo's performance in the Avengers.
 
2013-01-03 09:23:09 PM  

Apos: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything other than "The Town" and "The Avengers" with Jeremy Renner is a let down.


FTFY.

/Decent actor with a spotty record.


I can agree with that. I don't really like Affleck either but thought he did a good job.
 
2013-01-03 09:24:34 PM  

Techhell: Mugato: Techhell: /Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

I think The Avengers, while having a lot in common with Transformers (lots of CGI aliens/robots/mutants blowing shiat up), did it a lot better. The action was handled a lot better cinematography-wise. Unlike Transformers, in The Avengers you could actually tell WTF was going on and who was who. The Avengers also didn't have any characters that you wanted to see beaten to death, that helped the film.

I agree. This doesn't mean that the Avengers deserves the accolades that fanboys are giving it, nor does it mean that the movie doesn't deserve to be called overrated. It was a far better movie in nearly all aspects than any of the Transformers movies... but the defenses are similar. When the defenses are similar for crappy movies like the Transformers movies as for a supposedly "Great" movie like defenders claim the Avengers was, then that should be a red flag that the movie isn't as great as it could be.

/If someone is defending two actress with "She is a redhead with boobs!" where one is Kathy Griffin and the other is Christina Hendricks... they might want to rethink the "She is a redhead with boobs!" defense.


I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is. So given that it was a movie about a collection of mutants fighting robot/aliens, I think it was done about as well as it could have. And unlike Transformers, it managed to put in some likable characters  IMO.
 
2013-01-03 09:25:35 PM  
I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.
 
2013-01-03 09:27:21 PM  

Brick-House: did they NOT see twilight? Which of course I can understand.


Overrated means over-praised. Critics have panned Twilight since the first movie.
 
2013-01-03 09:27:25 PM  
I liked The Avengers and The Dark Knight Rises, so I argue with myself all the time about my taste in superhero movies.
 
2013-01-03 09:29:33 PM  

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


Screw you both. I loved the Hobbit. Pacing was fine and acting good. Consider your geek cards revoked.
 
2013-01-03 09:32:21 PM  

Yotto: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

Spoiler alert for anybody who is still reading this thread yet has not watched Avengers
I got the impression that Banner actually has 2 powers: 1 awesome and 1 sucky.

The awesome power is that he can turn into this indestructible killing machine that is pretty dumb but fantastically hefty. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The Hulk"

The sucky power is that he sometimes freaks out and can't control himself. That uncontrollable guy turns into The Hulk because it allows him more ability to fark shiat up. This guy is referred to in the movie as "The other guy."

Note, Banner did not say, "I put a bullet in my mouth. The Hulk spat it out." He said "The other guy spat it out." At first, I thought they were trying to not say The Hulk for some reason, but later, they freely refer to him as The Hulk. Cap even gives him the classic line as an order, "Hulk... Smash."

Anyway, I may be overthinking it. But I guess I rated it a bit overly.


Ohh... nice bit of overthinking there. I would like it if they could work in grey/green hulk. That could be cool.
 
2013-01-03 09:39:30 PM  

Eunuch Provocateur: 89 Stick-Up Kid: Anything with Jeremy Renner is a let down.

The next time you have a few hours to spare you should check out The Assassination of Jesse James.


Word. This is a seriously good movie, and Renner nailed his part.

/I don't usually care for westerns, but this one was great.
 
2013-01-03 09:41:15 PM  

Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is. So given that it was a movie about a collection of mutants fighting robot/aliens, I think it was done about as well as it could have. And unlike Transformers, it managed to put in some likable characters  IMO.


Exactly.
 
2013-01-03 09:53:29 PM  

Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.


You know what? I regret saying this. ^^^

It's been a little while since I saw the movie, so I went on YouTube and watched a few of the longer (1-2 mins.) promo clips. At a glance, the story actually seems much better than I remembered. I had forgotten a lot of the Loki/Thor sibling dynamic, and the Iron Man/Cap evolution seemed pretty good as well. I still maintain the characters were spread a bit too thin (I would be fine without Hawkeye and the Black Widow entirely), but otherwise the movie is probably smarter than I gave it credit for. I should probably rent and watch the DVD again to see.

However, I still maintain the Batman trilogy are the best superhero movies ever to be put on screen.
 
2013-01-03 09:58:25 PM  

Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is.


How do you define "executes"? In other words, do you mean how well they can take the material and make it great or how accurate they stay to the material? (I hope that makes sense.)

If it's the latter, I respectfully disagree. Some artistic license is often required to make something work on the big screen.
 
2013-01-03 10:03:38 PM  
If I wanted to look at a bunch of CGI, I'd play a video game instead.
 
2013-01-03 10:09:47 PM  

Wholesale Ass: Zombie DJ: I enjoyed the crap out of it, so um.........

Fark you. No one cares about your opinion.

awwww, you're SO cute! That 'I'M A BIG BAD TOUGH GUY ON THE WEBZ' thing is so adorable. You must feel so protected with your fan base of 1,000 people who saw this movie 15 times in the theater.


LOL!! Look at all the butthurt you have because I could care less about someones opinion.
Geez, I hope you don't ever upload a video of yourself on Youtube. You might want to commit suicide after reading the comment section.
Better cowboy up if what I said hurt so bad. And ya, I still don't give a fark who you are and if you liked a farking movie.
It's just a farking movie.
I'm in radio. I get peoples opinions everyday. And everyone has one. Mine. Yours. Whoever posts under me.
If you're basing your existence on how many "followers" people have and if that should influence others, put a dollar in the deutsche jar while you're writing your screenplay at Starbucks.

I'll have you know tens of people hang on my every word. That's right, TENS OF PEOPLE!
I AM A GOD TO THEM!
But they don't care what I say and neither should I. Why?

It's a farking movie and it's my farking opinion the writers and voters are wrong.
 
2013-01-03 10:12:16 PM  

jonny_q: Dissociater: I really liked Avengers. It didn't hold up as well on a second viewing. And it certainly is deserving of the most overrated movie of the year. Most over rated doesn't mean bad.

I've sat with my 4 year old and watched it a bunch of times.

I'll probably never watch TDKR again.

A lot of movies are like that. I'll watch them, tell my friends I liked the movie, but when the opportunity comes to watch the movie again, I just won't do it.


I'm similar with the movies I enjoy most. I'll watch them once in a blue moon (years apart), often because they're too "operatic" or sad or nuanced for casual viewing. One of my favorite movies in the world is Blade Runner. I first saw it about 15 years ago and have seen it only about 3 times in total. It's fantastic, but simply depressing at times.
 
2013-01-03 10:12:35 PM  

Wayne 985: Mugato: I'm of the opinion that a movie should be judged on how well it executes the material, no matter what it is.

How do you define "executes"? In other words, do you mean how well they can take the material and make it great or how accurate they stay to the material? (I hope that makes sense.)

If it's the latter, I respectfully disagree. Some artistic license is often required to make something work on the big screen.


Well I'm not really a comic book guy so I have the advantage of not giving a shiat how faithful a comic book movie is to the source material. I do know enough about comics to know that none of the villains in the Nolan movies were anything like their comic book counter parts but they were still good films.

As for The Avengers, I just meant they were given a premise of 7 or so goofy characters with an even goofier villain and they managed to make it work. Every character got enough screen time, there was pretty amusing dialog and the action scenes were executed well. It could have been a lot worse.
 
2013-01-03 10:17:03 PM  
Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.
 
2013-01-03 10:21:30 PM  

sonnyboy11: Screw you both. I loved the Hobbit. Pacing was fine and acting good. Consider your geek cards revoked.


I'm with this guy. Hobbit was great. Just don't go in expecting it to be LOTR. It's the story of a bunch of guys gonna kill a dragon an' get rich. And Arthur Dent is a a really good Bilbo.
 
2013-01-03 10:22:31 PM  

Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.


You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.
 
2013-01-03 10:25:13 PM  

PanicMan: And Arthur Dent is a a really good Bilbo.


He's a jerk. A complete kneebiter.
 
2013-01-03 10:34:06 PM  

browneye: StopLurkListen: [Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?

It's pretty obvious that when Banner initiates the transformation, he has much better control and/or is more "present" than when the transformation is forced upon him. Notice after he initiates the transformation in New York, he sticks close to the other Avengers instead of rampaging all over the place - he even responds when Cap called his name.


(Spoiler alert)

I think Banner's state of mind when he tranforms informs how Hulk is going to act. In the Helicarrier Banner is pissed and doesn't trust anyone on the team. When he transforms, the Hulk acts out Banner's desire to kick the crap out of everything in reach.

When he transforms in New York his Banner's anger is towards the aliens trashing the city. The Hulk then acts where (puny) Banner cannot.

Note that even when the Hulk is directed at bad guys he is a disaster waiting to happen and nowhere near safe (e.g. punching Thor off the screen). At the end when Iron Man is lying unconscious and the Hulk roars at him -- I have no doubt that had Tony Stark not woken up the next thing the Hulk would have done is pound his inert body.
 
2013-01-03 10:36:24 PM  

Mugato: As for The Avengers, I just meant they were given a premise of 7 or so goofy characters with an even goofier villain and they managed to make it work. Every character got enough screen time, there was pretty amusing dialog and the action scenes were executed well. It could have been a lot worse.


This.
Look at Star Trek. They couldn't make it work, even getting rid of Guinan and Wesley.
Uhura barely got 4 lines in the movies.
Whedon did what others couldn't seem to do and gave everyone equal spots, which was nice to see.
 
2013-01-03 10:36:54 PM  

stoli n coke: Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.

You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.


Well, they pretty much made up their results, so I figured all's fair, etc., etc...
 
2013-01-03 10:42:42 PM  

Mikey1969: stoli n coke: Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.

You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.

Well, they pretty much made up their results, so I figured all's fair, etc., etc...


Oh, yes, all's fair, ye of the "jerk store" comebacks.
 
2013-01-03 10:46:15 PM  

Zombie DJ: Mugato: As for The Avengers, I just meant they were given a premise of 7 or so goofy characters with an even goofier villain and they managed to make it work. Every character got enough screen time, there was pretty amusing dialog and the action scenes were executed well. It could have been a lot worse.

This.
Look at Star Trek. They couldn't make it work, even getting rid of Guinan and Wesley.
Uhura barely got 4 lines in the movies.
Whedon did what others couldn't seem to do and gave everyone equal spots, which was nice to see.


That's a fair point. Star Trek did a good job of making it into a team effort sort of deal instead of having one guy be the hero / focal point. Same with Avengers, though at times it was a bit overdone. But hey, you can't hit the ball out of the park with each and every shot.
 
2013-01-03 10:47:57 PM  

Techhell: ArminiusTheGreat: Avengers sucked. Period.

/Not trolling for all the confused fanboys who are blinded by the nostalgia of reading marvel comics when they were younger.

More likely the fanboys who were terrified that the movie was going to be a complete failure and it actually worked as a decent movie. (though maybe there's a bit of fanboy nostalgia in there too, though the Avengers comics weren't all that popular compared to X-Men and Spiderman and Wolverine.)

NOT a great movie. Not even one of the top 10 movies of 2012. But it worked, it was decent, and can be a pretty decent basis for future movies.


This.

You have to understand that (excluding Blade) any live-action Marvel movie/TV show before 2000 sucked horribly.

For some of us that started reading comics in the 80's, any Marvel movie that is reasonably faithful to the comics and isn't horrible (Daredevil, Electra) basically gets a big thumbs up from our inner-pre-adolescents.
 
2013-01-03 10:49:03 PM  
5 seconds of Hulk vs. Loki make the entire movie worthwhile. Just that scene would have been enough, but the rest of the movie was entertaining as well. It was a "Group of wise-ass comic book heroes beats up the baddies" flick. Anyone going into that expecting compelling theatre has only themselves to blame for the "letdown"...
 
2013-01-03 10:57:06 PM  
quitlikingwhatidontlike.jpg

Overrated is the most overrated insult you can throw at something popular. Just don't see if it you think it's dumb and quit whining aboout what the status quo thinks.
 
2013-01-03 11:09:17 PM  

Wholesale Ass: way south: I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.

So when you go see the Avengers you expect crap, get crap, enjoy crap.

Therefore, everyone wants crap.


Looks like the DC fanboys are flooding this thread.
 
2013-01-03 11:13:13 PM  

sprawl15: I read fark for the pics: Batman was laughably terrible. The voice of Bane completely killed the mood of the movie for me. Could not stay awake.

I really liked the voice until I realized that it was Sean Connery.


I know right?! I mean, this is freaking BANE we're talking about here! Even in B:TAS they got Bane's voice right; deep, hulking and menacing to match the physique. Here...I'm not sure what the hell Nolan was going for there.
 
2013-01-03 11:13:48 PM  

stoli n coke: Mikey1969: stoli n coke: Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.

You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.

Well, they pretty much made up their results, so I figured all's fair, etc., etc...

Oh, yes, all's fair, ye of the "jerk store" comebacks.


You seem to have some sand in your vagina. Are you going to take your ball and go home now? I'm sure some Summer's Eve will help out if you use it immediately.
 
2013-01-03 11:15:33 PM  
www.latimes.com

Most overrated newspaper of all time.

/dicks
//also, new Bourne movie or Prometheus should have gotten the "award"
 
2013-01-03 11:15:51 PM  

stoli n coke: Sorry Whedonites, Avengers was good, but not great. The fact that people are trotting out the "It doesn't have to be Shakespeare or Citizen Kane" arguments is proof of it's storytelling quality.

It's good dumb entertainment, but it's still dumb entertainment.


If you want smart entertainment, try Shakespare then.
 
2013-01-03 11:18:50 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: velvet_fog: Avengers was fun while watching it, but bland and forgettable. Good popcorn movie, but nothing I'll ever likely watch again at home. Reminds me a lot of Batman '89 in a lot of ways. Batman '89 was a mediocre movie that did huge business because of great marketing and great timing. Same thing with Avengers. Like Batman, I doubt many people will really remember much about the movie 20 years from now, but they'll certainly remember the hype surrounding it.

Wow really? I can remember Batman '89 pretty well, scenes, memorable lines, the stupid farking Prince song that got thrown into the sound track and all. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. Maybe if they were pretty young when the movie came out or something I could see forgetting a lot about it, but even then it still doesn't make a lot of sense.


Yeah, this. Batman '89 may not hold up like it did say 10 years from when it was released. Still a helluva good film to enjoy.
 
2013-01-03 11:25:05 PM  

Techhell: Dingleberry Dickwad: Techhell: The Dark Knight Rises and Prometheus are two of the most overhyped movies of 2012, and the two which were farthest away from meeting expectations. There's a great deal of dislike for both of these movies, and a great deal of people who are slamming the movies. And rightly so - both movies had massive problems that deserve to be criticized for. But neither were as highly rated and as highly regarded as the Avengers, by critics and particularly by fanboys...

... and most tellingly, the only common responses to the criticisms of the Avengers is 1) It made lots of money and 2) It wasn't supposed to be a smart movie. Eventually the people using these defenses will realize that these same arguments can be made about most Micheal Bay movies, will look for other defenses and will be reduced to the third defense "It was a very difficult to weave all those movies into one!", which isn't very strong either - there is 50 years of Avengers comics to draw from. The writers aren't pulling this from the ether. This doesn't mean that weaving them into the story was easy, but it is a weak defense.

/Avengers > Transformers 1, 2 and 3 combined. But essentially the same arguments to defend the Transformers movies as to defend the Avengers

No, you see the massive problem the Transformers movies had was that for movies based on a cartoon about warring alien robots that flee their dying planet bringing their war with them, they sure spent a whole farkload of time focusing on the human characters. If the movies would have spent the time they wasted on human characters developing the Autobot and Decepticon characters it could have had a lot more potential. Avengers at least kept to it's premise, a group of superheroes defending humanity.

Which is a totally valid criticism of Transformers while entirely missing the point I made. The main defenses of Avengers are the same defenses that are typically used to defend Transformers  - that the movies made lots ...


Uh no,

Transformers = The bots were the stars, not the humans.
Avengers = The heroes were the stars.

That looks very obvious to me.
 
2013-01-03 11:25:51 PM  
Avengers sucked... -BU, BU, BU, BU, BUT PROMETHEUS!!!!!

Hold on. You have to slow down. You're losing it. You have to take a breath. Listen to yourself. You're connecting a movie I had with a movie you might have had and some religious hogwash. You want to find the Avengers in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. Avengers from a mere street corner to your front door. Avengers while you're riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with the Avengers, you will filter everything else out and find the Avengers everywhere.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-03 11:26:06 PM  

Rwa2play: sprawl15: I read fark for the pics: Batman was laughably terrible. The voice of Bane completely killed the mood of the movie for me. Could not stay awake.

I really liked the voice until I realized that it was Sean Connery.

I know right?! I mean, this is freaking BANE we're talking about here! Even in B:TAS they got Bane's voice right; deep, hulking and menacing to match the physique. Here...I'm not sure what the hell Nolan was going for there.


I loved it. Richard Roeper compared it (in a positive way) to a cross between Sean Connery and Darth Vader, and I totally agree. That works for me. Is it odd? Sure, but it's also charming and intriguing. His eloquence and calm were a cool contrast with his brutal fighting and killing.
 
2013-01-03 11:27:59 PM  

stoli n coke: Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.

You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.


What part about it isn't true?
 
2013-01-03 11:30:46 PM  

stoli n coke: Mikey1969: stoli n coke: Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.

You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.

Well, they pretty much made up their results, so I figured all's fair, etc., etc...

Oh, yes, all's fair, ye of the "jerk store" comebacks.


Wait, did you not see their "list"? That was seriously watered down, k? So the criticism is valid.

If the LAT had every blockbuster/hyped movie polled and it still came out that "The Avengers" was overhyped, then fine. That list, however, was watered-down.
 
2013-01-03 11:31:58 PM  
I love playing detective to figure out what Summer Glau's Love Slave said that got the comment deleted.

So far I figured out it was Dark Shadows... That's about as far as I think I'm getting.
 
2013-01-03 11:34:08 PM  

Rwa2play: stoli n coke: Mikey1969: stoli n coke: Mikey1969: Los Angeles Times also happens to be the most overrated news site of 2012, what a coincidence.

You just made that up, didn't you? Good for you, sport.

Well, they pretty much made up their results, so I figured all's fair, etc., etc...

Oh, yes, all's fair, ye of the "jerk store" comebacks.

Wait, did you not see their "list"? That was seriously watered down, k? So the criticism is valid.

If the LAT had every blockbuster/hyped movie polled and it still came out that "The Avengers" was overhyped, then fine. That list, however, was watered-down.


BTW, that polls sounds like some exec from WB who's still butthurt about "The Avengers" calling in a favor to a friend.
 
2013-01-03 11:37:02 PM  

Shadowtag: quitlikingwhatidontlike.jpg

Overrated is the most overrated insult you can throw at something popular. Just don't see if it you think it's dumb and quit whining aboout what the status quo thinks.


Pretty much this; it's these type of articles that keep reminding me that people have too much time to look at their portable device but can't be arsed to look up a word in the dictionary for it's proper context.
 
2013-01-03 11:37:42 PM  
I thought the relationship between Stark and Banner was pretty good. Otherwise, it was a pretty stupid movie. And it's overrated because all summer the Internet talked about how it was the greatest movie ever. Just really boring and the final action sequence looked like something out of Star Wars. The screen was so dense.

Sam Jackson is an amazing actor when he feels like it. Every time he puts the eye patch on though, seems like he's cashing a check as opposed to creating art. They leaned on RDJ because the rest of the cast was so incredibly boring. Should've just made it Iron Man 3, the one where some more super dudes show up at the end. Did captain America even do anything in the avengers? I saw a red and blue blur when all the cgi was jizzing all over the screen. Probably him, but maybe Thor? Would Nolan have put the archer dude in a movie with actual super heroes? Probably not, because it's a stupidly ridiculous idea to make supernatural beings peers with an archer. I never read the comics, was he an integral part of the avengers or something? Just so dumb, no surprise it made so much money.
 
2013-01-03 11:39:12 PM  

Champion of the Sun: I thought the relationship between Stark and Banner was pretty good. Otherwise, it was a pretty stupid movie. And it's overrated because all summer the Internet talked about how it was the greatest movie ever. Just really boring and the final action sequence looked like something out of Star Wars. The screen was so dense.

Sam Jackson is an amazing actor when he feels like it. Every time he puts the eye patch on though, seems like he's cashing a check as opposed to creating art. They leaned on RDJ because the rest of the cast was so incredibly boring. Should've just made it Iron Man 3, the one where some more super dudes show up at the end. Did captain America even do anything in the avengers? I saw a red and blue blur when all the cgi was jizzing all over the screen. Probably him, but maybe Thor? Would Nolan have put the archer dude in a movie with actual super heroes? Probably not, because it's a stupidly ridiculous idea to make supernatural beings peers with an archer. I never read the comics, was he an integral part of the avengers or something? Just so dumb, no surprise it made so much money.


So by your logic, "Battleship" should've made twice the money "The Avengers" made amirite?
 
2013-01-03 11:41:24 PM  

Rwa2play: stoli n coke: Sorry Whedonites, Avengers was good, but not great. The fact that people are trotting out the "It doesn't have to be Shakespeare or Citizen Kane" arguments is proof of it's storytelling quality.

It's good dumb entertainment, but it's still dumb entertainment.

If you want smart entertainment, try Shakespare then.


That's the exact same thing people said to defend Transformers.

Like I said earlier, Avengers was good, but not great. I'm sure the 12-year old me would have loved it, but the adult me thought it was a 2 and a half hour conversation of "who would win in a fight? This guy or this guy?"

But please, fanboys. Continue your collective ragegasm.
 
2013-01-03 11:44:02 PM  
yup, didn't get the love on this one

thought it was going to be smart
 
2013-01-03 11:48:12 PM  

stoli n coke: Rwa2play: stoli n coke: Sorry Whedonites, Avengers was good, but not great. The fact that people are trotting out the "It doesn't have to be Shakespeare or Citizen Kane" arguments is proof of it's storytelling quality.

It's good dumb entertainment, but it's still dumb entertainment.

If you want smart entertainment, try Shakespare then.

That's the exact same thing people said to defend Transformers.

Like I said earlier, Avengers was good, but not great. I'm sure the 12-year old me would have loved it, but the adult me thought it was a 2 and a half hour conversation of "who would win in a fight? This guy or this guy?"

But please, fanboys. Continue your collective ragegasm.


You must be fun at parties.
 
2013-01-03 11:48:46 PM  

Rwa2play:

So by your logic, "Battleship" should've made twice the money "The Avengers" made amirite?


Never saw that one. Is the internal logic of the movie consistent? Will you make the avengers breakfast in the morning?
 
2013-01-03 11:50:10 PM  

stoli n coke: That's the exact same thing people said to defend Transformers


If Shia LaBeuf took a sword to the chest I might have seen Transformers.
 
2013-01-03 11:54:45 PM  

Champion of the Sun: Rwa2play:

So by your logic, "Battleship" should've made twice the money "The Avengers" made amirite?

Never saw that one. Is the internal logic of the movie consistent?


Aliens in discs scything through ships supposed to be logical?

Will you make the avengers breakfast in the morning?

2/10, maybe if you try harder you might get a rise out of me. Otherwise, leave the trolling to the professionals, 'cause you ain't one.
 
2013-01-03 11:55:59 PM  

dj_spanmaster: Statistically speaking, of COURSE The Avengers was the most overrated. More people went to see it than went to see the other films, and it wasn't exactly a film of substance.

The list:
"The Avengers" 85.39%
"Prometheus" 4.62%
"Brave" 1.02%
"Ted" 3.03%
"Project X" 1.78%
"The Master" 1.78%
"Cloud Atlas" 2.38%

With a loaded list like that and the limited sampling, people voted for the film that they saw and remember liking the least in retrospect. Very few films on the list were bad. Where's "Cabin in the Woods"? "Total Recall"? I wonder how many abstained.


cdn3.blogs.babble.com
 
2013-01-04 12:01:19 AM  

Rwa2play:

Aliens in discs scything through ships supposed to be logical?
.


Is that consistent with the rest of the movie? The Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, and Captain America being equals with archer man and tits McGee isn't. Too hard to understand?
 
2013-01-04 12:04:15 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Rwa2play:

Aliens in discs scything through ships supposed to be logical?
.

Is that consistent with the rest of the movie? The Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, and Captain America being equals with archer man and tits McGee isn't. Too hard to understand?


Wow, someone needs to see "The Avengers" because the movie answered that question.
 
2013-01-04 12:51:12 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: sprawl15: proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?

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Nope, sorry. If people started liking that movie then everyone on this tab would start talking about how much it sucked and how many problems it had.


Uhm, because it wasn't good? Fun, sure -- who doesn't like a guy going nucking futs. But good? Meh.
 
2013-01-04 01:00:16 AM  
Why do all the smug people think only the good movies come with laurels around it on the movie poster?
 
2013-01-04 01:14:04 AM  
Wow, what a troll thread..
 
2013-01-04 01:21:54 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: The All-Powerful Atheismo: sprawl15: proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?

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Nope, sorry. If people started liking that movie then everyone on this tab would start talking about how much it sucked and how many problems it had.

Uhm, because it wasn't good? Fun, sure -- who doesn't like a guy going nucking futs. But good? Meh.


I thought it was great. Very smart and stylish, though his autism-like behavior did sometimes get annoying.
 
2013-01-04 01:23:13 AM  
D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.
 
2013-01-04 01:25:23 AM  

8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.



Your name overestimates you by about 6 and a half inches, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-04 01:38:27 AM  

moothemagiccow: Snark Shark II: Champion of the Sun: Snark Shark II: It says in that article that the engineers sent down one of their own to try to teach humans how to get along with one another and that humans killed him. This goes right along with all of the Ancient Aliens stuff in the film, with all the cave paintings and everything.

I really hate when explanations for major plot points of a movie aren't in the movie. I'm looking at you Star Trek (2009). I made a bunch of assumptions up about everyone in Prometheus so their actions made sense in my mind. Like, I assumed that all cobras were dead in the future, and that's why that biologist was trying to pet the alien snake that looked like he was about strike.

yeah, don't get me wrong, movie needed more explanation. I'm thinking he was planning on doing more in the next movie but yeah there was a lot of context missing and what looked awesome in a trailer was a mess of a script onscreen.

/ running from a rolling spaceship
// don't even think to run left or right to get out of the way
/// stupid, stupid, stupid.

it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out? Now I understand why avengers was so popular. Hold on Bruce, let's put this in terms Hulk can understand


no, I farking understood it. It was too vague for most people. Way to be an assumptive douchebag.
 
2013-01-04 01:50:55 AM  
This is actually a hard question. Many people can't even manage the framework - they confuse overrated with over-hyped. TDKR and Prometheus easily win over-hyped, although it depends on the person which movie fell further from its promise (although I don't see how an intelligent person would expect TDKR to be better than mediocre). I didn't have much hope that either would be better than mediocre. With Prometheus's conceptual and visual brilliance, it had the potential to be great, but the dialogue, writing, and pacing swept it out of "great" territory.

Overrated then -- the movie that doesn't live up to its objective ratings -- IDK. I haven't seen Lincoln and The Master, although I've heard mostly good things from respected movie critics about The Master, and I've read that Lincoln is Oscar bait and merely a series of speeches and avoids anything that hints at Lincoln's racism (not that I expected Hollywood to prioritize authenticity). Eh, I can't say what the most overrated film of 2012 is.
 
2013-01-04 01:51:08 AM  
This is not a repeat from 1998.
 
2013-01-04 01:59:39 AM  

way south: I dunno what people expected.
Avengers was a superhero blockbuster with lots of explosions, humor, and eye candy. Its not meant to be shakespear, just good fun.

Prometheus tops my chart for overrated crap. The advertisements had more suspense than the entire film. People went expecting plot or at least a good scare.
They got eye candy but not much else but plot holes.


Jesus. What you're describing is "overhyped" NOT "overrated." I'll stop exercising proper reading comprehension on the internet now, since apparently it's useless.
 
2013-01-04 02:04:17 AM  

Suede head: Was I the only one who found the last half hour astonishingly distasteful? It was clearly meant to elicit memories of 9/11 with its destruction of skyscrapers, dust clouds, fleeing crowds etc and was used for a stupid campy superhero movie about big men in spandex prancing about. Amazing that the memory of this tragedy can be so cheapened so soon.


Distasteful, no.  Boring, yes.  The big, climactic battle was superfluous, and the deus ex machina of a nuke stopping the entire bad guy army was weak.  Really, the bad guy army was pathetic - were they organic or droids robots isn't even the biggest problem.
 
2013-01-04 02:11:04 AM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: The Dark Knight Rises insulted me on so many levels. I should have expected it though, Nolan movies never stand up to rational thinking. Inception being the best example of his style: massive plot holes, unnecessary characters, and nonsensical motivations.

Avengers was awesome, I can't stand Whedon and I still liked it.


Nolan films are the epitome of pseudo-intellectualism.
 
2013-01-04 02:12:42 AM  

Blame Hofmann: This is actually a hard question. Many people can't even manage the framework - they confuse overrated with over-hyped.


Only because people have been saying "rated" for so long, instead of "hyped" that they've come to mean the same thing in the common vernacular, or visa versa, but people discussing it are not the only blame.

Part of the problem lies in ads containing glowing reviews, and reviews that are basically paid for write-ups(ads).

What helps to reference the two would be rated(reviewers and word of mouth), and hyped(buzz created from ads and trailers and gossip). But really, the distinction is almost pointless at this stage, unless it's specified which is meant at the beginning of an article.

That's where this article fails, they title it "over-rated" but specifically talk about "hype". That, and the relatively small sample size, and the fact that people's reviews tend to be less glowing months after release and initial viewing, people confuse expectations being let down with an honest review, etc.

I just saw the new Spiderman. I liked it a bit better than the previous emo-trilogy. Sure, it had it's emo moments as well, but it crammed in just enough range to make it ok. That the movie wasn't 1 hour of Tobey looking confused(which was in all 3 of the others) was a nice touch as well.
 
2013-01-04 02:34:08 AM  
Batman was the most overrated in my opinion. It was a horrible let-down after the other two in the series.

Avengers was good with all of the character interaction, but fell apart when it became CGI heroes fighting a horde of CGI whatever. I stopped caring at that point. A 40 minute, titanic battle to save the world, and they couldn't even manage to make me not get up to go take a dump...
 
2013-01-04 02:47:18 AM  

Shadowknight: Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

Agreed 110%.  I loved Avengers.  Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie.  It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck through.


That was my opinion too. "Where's Batman? Oh, he's over there... being not-Batman."
And Bane's voice pissed me off, on a purely aesthetic level. Sure, I didn't expect the sort of death metal growl that sadly only used monosyllables in the (awful) previous film appearance of the character, but he sounded like he was using a sarcastic inflection every time, and it just came out whiny.
So it was like a vortex of whine, who can be emo and whine about life more? Even the appearance of the Catwoman was all about whining, "oh poor me, I just want to lose my criminal record so I can retire, wah wah wah..." And the proto-Robin character, also whining, "Oh, you're doing the hero part all wrong, Mr. Wayne...!"

Avengers at least had some snappy dialogue, humour, and action, even if there were simply too many characters to share both drama and action sequences with to lend worthwhile context.
 
2013-01-04 02:50:41 AM  

Duck_of_Doom: Distasteful, no.  Boring, yes.  The big, climactic battle was superfluous, and the deus ex machina of a nuke stopping the entire bad guy army was weak.  Really, the bad guy army was pathetic - were they organic or droids robots isn't even the biggest problem.


I don't think the nuke was needed to stop the invasion - closing the portal would do that itself. But if they closed the portal and still had a live nuke there, it's still a problem.

I do think the Chitari greatly overestimated their own worth at invading worlds. Heck, if it had been Fleet Week in NYC at the time of the invasion, they may have been stopped without the Avengers, eventually.
 
2013-01-04 02:55:58 AM  

Wayne 985: ArcadianRefugee: The All-Powerful Atheismo: sprawl15: proteus_b: are there any good movies any more?

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Nope, sorry. If people started liking that movie then everyone on this tab would start talking about how much it sucked and how many problems it had.

Uhm, because it wasn't good? Fun, sure -- who doesn't like a guy going nucking futs. But good? Meh.

I thought it was great. Very smart and stylish, though his autism-like behavior did sometimes get annoying.


My big thing is the characters -- if I don't like the characters, it's hard to like the movie. The guy was a douche. I mean, if the point of the movie were "watch all these jerks get what's coming to them", fine. "Watch this bad guy do bad things"? Fine. But when it's "this guy's supposed to be the hero; no, really" and he's a dick, you kind of hope to see him kill everyone, then fall into an active cement mixer filled with broken glass and Drano.

bonobo73: You have to understand that (excluding Blade) any live-action Marvel movie/TV show before 2000 sucked horribly.


See, now we know you're just trolling.

Not saying the others were good, but Blade? Really?
 
2013-01-04 04:18:22 AM  

GAT_00: It could have done with a whole lot less Whedon.


As someone who's never seen more than one episode of anything he's done other than Firefly, (which I loved like a fat kid loves cake), I must confess, I really like Whedon's dialogue. Maybe if you've slogged through Buffy, and Angel, and whatever else he's written (Dollhouse?) you'd have had more than you can stomach, I understand.

Not that it was a great film or anything, but I think the best lines in Avengers had Whedon written all over them.
 
2013-01-04 04:27:43 AM  

Dr Dreidel: That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will?


The end of the last Hulk movie explained this. In fact, the last Hulk movie (the Ed Norton one) was almost entirely about this. He started gaining control of the creature by a combination of biofeedback control, just straight-up getting a handle on his emotions, and focusing on keeping his intellect in control while the beast rolls rather than trying to suppress it entirely. Sometimes he has a pretty good level of control and sometimes not so much, and he's closer to mentally stable when he lets it out himself than when someone else provokes his rage.

I know it wasn't the greatest movie or anything, but you could have at least watched it before biatching about it on the internet.
 
2013-01-04 04:33:35 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Dr Dreidel: That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will?

The end of the last Hulk movie explained this. In fact, the last Hulk movie (the Ed Norton one) was almost entirely about this. He started gaining control of the creature by a combination of biofeedback control, just straight-up getting a handle on his emotions, and focusing on keeping his intellect in control while the beast rolls rather than trying to suppress it entirely. Sometimes he has a pretty good level of control and sometimes not so much, and he's closer to mentally stable when he lets it out himself than when someone else provokes his rage.

I know it wasn't the greatest movie or anything, but you could have at least watched it before biatching about it on the internet.


I watched that movie once, after the Avengers came out, and was very underwhelmed.
 
2013-01-04 04:47:05 AM  

Champion of the Sun: And it's overrated because all summer the Internet talked about how it was the greatest movie ever.


I don't usually fall back on the what-did-you-expect gambit, but c'mon... don't 13-year-old caucasian boys outnumber everyone else on the internet like, 5:1?

moothemagiccow: it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out?


There's a huge difference between intentionally leaving certain things up to the viewer to decide (Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Thing, Primer, Dark City), and being lazy because you want to generate dialogue among the dimwitted and aren't skilled enough to write a good story all the way through. (Prometheus, Donnie Darko, anything by David Lynch).
 
2013-01-04 04:52:29 AM  

Errk: Award worthy....

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What is this "The Avengers" movie people are talking about?  The only movie I saw was "Scarlett Johansson In Skin-Tight Leather", which was riveting every time she was in a scene.
 
2013-01-04 04:54:38 AM  

8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.


Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.
 
2013-01-04 05:00:08 AM  

Z-clipped: moothemagiccow: it's scifi. Your problem with the movie was seriously that it was too vague and it needed to spell every little thing out?

There's a huge difference between intentionally leaving certain things up to the viewer to decide (Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Thing, Primer, Dark City), and being lazy because you want to generate dialogue among the dimwitted and aren't skilled enough to write a good story all the way through. (Prometheus, Donnie Darko, anything by David Lynch).


Seriously? That paragraph tells me that you are trying to fail at life. Don't fail at life.
 
2013-01-04 06:06:32 AM  
Wheadon needs a script editor. Someone to stand over his shoulder and say "you don't have to drag that aircraft rotor scene on quite that long. Seriously, stop it with the damn rotors.". It was meant to be a mindless popcorn movie and it was enjoyable, so it lived up to expectations. Prometheus promised to be a work of art of sorts and that went all kinds of wrong.
 
2013-01-04 06:49:25 AM  
This thread is full of jerkoffs personifying the Louis CK "Everything is Amazing and Nobody's Happy" bit.
 
2013-01-04 07:44:23 AM  

FoxKelfonne: Oh man. 2600 respondents in an online poll that had only 7 choices out of all the movies of 2012? Choices that didn't even include some of the biggest movies of the year like Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall? How very scientific.


Glad to see I wasn't the only one paying attention to that part.

/Except the actual movies named part.
 
2013-01-04 08:30:39 AM  

Decillion: Exactly. This is supposedly a plot hole even before the end. "How did he get back to Gotham without money/resources?" This is a case where the answer actually is, "He's Batman". Of course he's prepared. For me it's a memorized phone number + hidden accounts on each continent to reach the type of people who flew him out of China in TDK. I feel bad for people who don't even try to fill in the blanks during movies and need everything to happen on screen.


My personal opinion is it could have been a small moment of levity before the climax "Bruce, how did you get back to gotham?" "Frequent Flier Miles. Had a ton of them."

DKR is a good film, not amazing. Not as good as TDK.

Avengers was amazing. It was accessible, it was fun to watch, it was legitimately funny at points (I understood that!), and it had some heart. I'm eager to see more Marvel films despite being an avowed DC fanboy.

Prometheus wins this one hands-down. It was built up to everything and was in every respect terrible.
 
2013-01-04 08:41:08 AM  
Most disappointing: Prometheus.
Most overrated: The Master.
 
2013-01-04 08:47:11 AM  

Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.


Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.
 
2013-01-04 08:47:58 AM  

Z-clipped: There's a huge difference between intentionally leaving certain things up to the viewer to decide (Blade Runner, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Thing, Primer, Dark City), and being lazy because you want to generate dialogue among the dimwitted and aren't skilled enough to write a good story all the way through. (Prometheus, Donnie Darko, anything by David Lynch).


Funny enough, I'm just starting to try and understand David Lynch but otherwise I completely agree with you. Science ficition is supposed to be smart. It's the perfect genre to question society and religion and morality. Not taking that opportunity but instead using the genre as an excuse for a crappy story is sad. You can technobabble to get to your point, but you have to have a point to get to.

/"What does God need with a starship?" is one of the greatest lines in any movie ever.
 
2013-01-04 09:07:54 AM  
When someone says "This is overrated," they might as well be saying "I don't like this thing that's popular and I don't understand why it's popular" When someone says "This is underrated," they might as well be saying "I like this thing that's not popular and I don't understand why it's not popular"
 
2013-01-04 09:07:56 AM  
Dredd was BY FAR the biggest surprise of the year for me.

I know nothing about the comic books and I never even saw the 95 flick that's supposedly a cinematic abortion, but holy shiat, Dredd 2012 pretty much kicks your teeth in with hardcore violence and a nasty attitude. It reminded me a lot of when I saw Robocop for the first time in 87.

I can't recommend it enough.
 
2013-01-04 09:37:44 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.

But some of the best eye candy assembled on the big screen in ages.


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I couldn't agree more...

OH... effects, you meant effects didn't you?
 
2013-01-04 09:40:07 AM  

moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.


That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.
 
2013-01-04 09:52:36 AM  

saintstryfe: Prometheus wins this one hands-down. It was built up to everything and was in every respect terrible.


Wait.

This is a perfect example of someone who is upset because a movie they like is being called overrated even though it's clear that most people agree that it is not overrated because of the amount of people that agree with him have shown that it isn't overrated except for people that were polled by the L.A. Times (takes a breath) -AND will go out of their way to say that a movie like Prometheus which definitely does NOT have a history of high ratings is somehow 'overrated.' But they WILL proceed to pick on the ugly kid anyways for being ugly because everyone already knows he is ugly and the person who is upset just got schooled out in the parking lot by a bunch of kids he doesn't like and has no idea how to react to it so naturally he attacks the easiest target.

If a movie is anticipated and turns out to be fare or less than fare it is acceptable that you might think that they film was 'over-hyped.'

Nobody is claiming that Prometheus is an overrated movie. (Except you and some other whiny biatches in this thread who have zero reading comprehension which may also be why you liked The Avengers so much) In fact people are pretty pissed off about it. Hence the LOW ratings.

EVERYBODY is saying that The Avengers is the BIBLE.

The fact that you are mixing 'over-hyped' with 'overrated' is similar to the thinking- 'You can't go into a movie expecting Shakespeare!' -but at the same time foam at the mouth and wish death upon those who do not agree with you that it IS the Bible.

It's spawned from the same logic.

The logic that suggests 'You knew what you were getting into.' It's the same as suggesting that there are really no such things as good action movies because of the fact that you have to handicap yourself as if you were playing a game of golf.

You're going around trying to tell people they are not watching movies properly and using it as a defense when people call your favorite movie 'overrated.'

There is NO WAY IN HELL that it is the 131st all time best movies ever, and is in NO WAY better than:

The Big Lebowski (1998)
Touch of Evil (1958)
Ran (1985)
The Deer Hunter (1978)
Cool Hand Luke (1967)
Sin City (2005)
The Gold Rush (1925)
Strangers on a Train (1951)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
It Happened One Night (1934)
Jaws (1975)
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998)
The Sixth Sense (1999)
Platoon (1986)
Hotel Rwanda (2004)
The Thing (1982)
High Noon (1952)
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
Casino (1995)
Trainspotting (1996)
Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003)
Warrior (2011)
Annie Hall (1977)
The Secret in Their Eyes (2009)
Notorious (1946)
Good Will Hunting (1997)
Gone with the Wind (1939)
The Grapes of Wrath (1940)
The King's Speech (2010)
Into the Wild (2007)
Life of Brian (1979)
My Neighbor Totoro (1988)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Finding Nemo (2003)
How to Train Your Dragon (2010)
Dial M for Murder (1954)
The Big Sleep (1946)
Ben-Hur (1959)
The Terminator (1984)
Network (1976)
Million Dollar Baby (2004)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Stand by Me (1986)
The Night of the Hunter (1955)
Donnie Darko (2001)
Black Swan (2010)
Groundhog Day (1993)
Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
Twelve Monkeys (1995)
Amores Perros (2000)
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
Mary and Max (2009)
The 400 Blows (1959)
Life of Pi (2012)
Persona (1966)
The Graduate (1967)
Gandhi (1982)
The Killing (1956)
Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
The Princess Bride (1987)
8½ (1963)
The Artist (2011/I)
Slumdog Millionaire (2008)
Argo (2012)
The Hustler (1961)
A Beautiful Mind (2001)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
La strada (1954)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Rocky (1976)
The Wild Bunch (1969)
Anatomy of a Murder (1959)
Stalag 17 (1953)
The Exorcist (1973)
Sleuth (1972)
Rope (1948)
Barry Lyndon (1975)
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962)
District 9 (2009)
The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012)
Infernal Affairs (2002)
Stalker (1979)
Roman Holiday (1953)
The Truman Show (1998)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Ip Man (2008)
Ratatouille (2007)
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (2007)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2 (2011)
In the Name of the Father (1993)
Monsters, Inc. (2001)
A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
Star Trek (2009)
Incendies (2010)
Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Harvey (1950)
La Haine (1995)
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
The Wrestler (2008)
Rain Man (1988)
Shutter Island (2010)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (2003)
Nosferatu (1922)
Manhattan (1979)
Mystic River (2003)
3 Idiots (2009)
Battleship Potemkin (1925)
Big Fish (2003)
Papillon (1973)
Jurassic Park (1993)
Shadow of a Doubt (1943)
Castle in the Sky (1986)
The Untouchables (1987)
Bringing Up Baby (1938)
In the Heat of the Night


In fact it is probably the most highly overrated movie that has ever existed.

Where is Prometheus on this list?
 
2013-01-04 09:57:00 AM  

RaceBoatDriver: Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.

Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.


Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.
 
2013-01-04 09:58:51 AM  
I liked Avengers but the problem is I'm like a 6 on the nerd scale and that movie was an 8 or 9. And Prometheus is pretty much universally regarded as "could and should have been much better than it turned out", so I don't know how that's overrated. Some people are confusing overrated and overhyped like they often do.
 
2013-01-04 10:14:08 AM  

Craptastic: moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.

That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.


Most superhero's investigative technique is either punch someone or hold them over the edge of a building until they spill the beans.
 
2013-01-04 10:38:50 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Craptastic: moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.

That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.

Most superhero's investigative technique is either punch someone or hold them over the edge of a building until they spill the beans.


I know, right? They're superheroes! They use their super powers to punch bad guys. It ain't rocket surgery.

On another note: Am I the only person in the world who didn't hate Prometheus? I'd like to see a sequel where the woman and the robot-head find the home planet of the Engineers and find out why they're such assholes.
 
2013-01-04 10:49:56 AM  

Craptastic: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Craptastic: moothemagiccow: I thought it was better than Avengers, which everyone was going on about as if it were the best movie ever. It was superheroes punching each other for two and a half hours. It was dull.

That's kind of what superheroes do. They're not out solving crimes like a CSI team. They find a bad guy and punch him into submission.

Most superhero's investigative technique is either punch someone or hold them over the edge of a building until they spill the beans.

I know, right? They're superheroes! They use their super powers to punch bad guys. It ain't rocket surgery.

On another note: Am I the only person in the world who didn't hate Prometheus? I'd like to see a sequel where the woman and the robot-head find the home planet of the Engineers and find out why they're such assholes.


Even after they have the info they usually give a few more or drop them. It's awesome.

I didn't hate Prometheus. Visually it was stunning, Noomi is just fantastic to watch and listen to, it's just that it made no damn sense at all. It's tough to make a intellectual action sci-fi and pull it off well (hat's off to John Carpenter's The Thing)
 
2013-01-04 10:52:12 AM  

vrax: Seriously? That paragraph tells me that you are trying to fail at life.


Got nothin' huh?

PanicMan: Funny enough, I'm just starting to try and understand David Lynch


The guy has some amazing skill at cinematography, but when it comes to symbolism and deeper meaning, he's a monkey throwing paint at a canvas. Have fun with it, but I wouldn't bother trying to "figure him out". He's an onion.

Teufelaffe: Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.


Uhh... you don't see the fact that the protagonist is present at his own death to be strikingly similar? Or the ethical struggle the character goes through as a result of traveling into his own past? The role of memory, and how perspective affects our perceptions?

Don't get me wrong, Looper wasn't nearly as good a film as 12 Monkeys, but there's quite a lot of 12 Monkeys in Looper. A fair bit of Blade Runner too.
 
2013-01-04 10:58:05 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Visually it was stunning, Noomi is just fantastic to watch and listen to, it's just that it made no damn sense at all.


This. Nothing that looks that epic should have a plot that stupid and juvenile. I wanted to kick Ridley Scott in the balls after it was over, and then I went and read an interview about his "creative process" and wanted to kick him in the balls twice.
 
2013-01-04 11:00:14 AM  
I love it when people make statements telling people to watch Shakespeare for smart entertainment, when all the while, Shakespeare was the master of the Elizabethan era fart joke.
 
2013-01-04 11:00:54 AM  

tgambitg: Electromax: scottydoesntknow: Orgasmatron138: scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.

I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.

It's very good, and one of the only movies I can say that I wish I had seen in 3D. The "slo-mo" parts were done very well. Just know that it really earns its "R" rating, one of the goriest movies I've seen in a while.

I know nothing about Dredd, never read a comic or seen the '95 Stallone flick, but I loved the movie. And I can take or leave violence if the visuals are interesting, but the extreme violence was done with such a straight face and Urban had such a wonderful presence you can't help but get roped up in the fun satire of it. I grinned like an idiot through a lot of it, just like Avengers/TDKR/the first time I saw scott pilgrim without knowing one iota about it besides Cera was in it.

Smoking a lot before these movies helps this phenomenon, I've found.

/"Ma-ma is not the law. I am the law."

Karl Urban doesn't get enough credit for his acting roles... Yeah, he does a lot of crappy movies, but he takes on roles and does well in them, even if everything else around him is a piece of shiat... (*cough* Chronicles of Riddick *cough*)


Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).
 
2013-01-04 11:19:25 AM  

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).


Wait! That's the same guy? (googles)

Well, I'll be damned. I did not know that.
 
2013-01-04 11:24:49 AM  

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).


He is one of those guys that is just good at whatever they ask him to do. Love or hate the movies you can't say he wasn't good in The Chronicles of Riddick, Doom, and Priest.
 
2013-01-04 11:58:39 AM  

vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.


If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.
 
2013-01-04 12:02:32 PM  

Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I w ...


Red was my favorite action movie of 2011 (I know it came out in 2010, but I didn't see it til 2011). Everything about it was great. Even old Bruce Willis kicking ass fit, because he was supposed to be old. And Urban did a great job too. The fight in the CIA headquarters is one of my favorite fight scenes

"Kordeski trained you?"
"Yea"
"I trained Kordeski" *SNAP*
 
2013-01-04 12:06:29 PM  
I loved it. So why am I supposed to care that people are upset that I did?
 
2013-01-04 12:06:50 PM  

8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.


You must have absolutely despised Chappelle's "Haters In Time" sketch then

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-04 12:55:17 PM  
TDKR was dull. Just... Dull. How can you take a great Batman story like Knightfall and turn it into a dull, plodding, self-absorbed movie like this? Bane is nothing like the source character (they might as well have given him a new name) and Catwoman, while not guilty of making groan-worthy puns as usually seen on film, was as much a sadsack as everyone else. Talia's appearance was less of a twist and more of a deus ex, and Bruce was just annoying as hell from start to finish.

Compare that to the animated The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and you'll see what I mean. Why is it that Warner Bros. animation can get DC characters so RIGHT while WB live-action always makes them sad, whiny, BORING and sanctimonious? Young Justice rocks. Pretty much every Batman animated feature rocks. Even the Superman animated features beat the shiat out of live-action stuff! If you haven't seen Superman vs. The Elite, you should check it out.

Meanwhile, The Avengers was fun! It was a dumb movie, sure, but it was a rollercoaster ride, not a long tunnel of self-introspection and deep psychological investigation. I enjoyed Avengers because it didn't try to be more than it is. Superheroes, by definition, are ridiculous. Why try to Nolanize them and make them 'serious' to the point of removing all the fun from it?

I have my gripes with Whedon, but he handled Avengers perfectly. Frankly, I think it's a shame he can't have a crack at a Marvel Studios version of Spider-Man, and from me (major Spidey fan) that's high praise for his directing talents.

Actually, if Marvel develops Starfox as a character (no, not the stupid Nintendo anthropomorphic fox, either) I'd like to see what Whedon does with him. He'd also be awesome at a She-Hulk movie, I think.

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As for Nolan, I like him. Some of his movies are among my favorites, but his Batman was dull as dried beans, and I would like to see him stay away from superheroes from now on.

I just really don't get why Timm and Dini can't have a crack at a live action Batman.
 
2013-01-04 12:57:20 PM  

8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.


Let me guess, you're known as the uncomfortable weird guy where you work.
 
2013-01-04 01:14:05 PM  
cdn.uproxx.com
 
2013-01-04 01:17:15 PM  

HighOnCraic:


I do t know what that is, but I would really like to know more.
 
2013-01-04 01:27:09 PM  
Of the movies I saw, Django, Prometheus, and Skyfall were all pretty disappointing.

Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers were great. Batman was just okay.
 
2013-01-04 01:33:45 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: MIB 3 was better


4/10. I almost bit.
 
2013-01-04 01:38:21 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Of the movies I saw, Django, Prometheus, and Skyfall were all pretty disappointing.

Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers were great. Batman was just okay.


Cabin in the Woods was a great surprise. I live in Spain per the Navy, and our exposure to American pop culture and specifically to movie advertisements is fairly limited. I keep track online where I can, but s lot slips by. Imagine my surprise when I saw a BluRay at the movie rental place on base saying "From the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Writer Director of The Avengers Joss Whedon" on the front cover. The wife and I rented it and watched it Halloween night, and really enjoyed the hell out of it.

All the Whedon universe cameos were a great touch too.

/shoulda been mermen...
 
2013-01-04 01:40:24 PM  

HighOnCraic: [cdn.uproxx.com image 650x974]


One of the hottest Alison Bree pics ever...and that's saying something.
 
2013-01-04 01:40:59 PM  

Teufelaffe: HighOnCraic: [cdn.uproxx.com image 650x974]

One of the hottest Alison Brie pics ever...and that's saying something.


FTFM
 
2013-01-04 01:44:55 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: God Is My Co-Pirate: Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.

But some of the best eye candy assembled on the big screen in ages.

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I couldn't agree more...

OH... effects, you meant effects didn't you?


Well no, I meant the guys, but carry on.  :)
 
2013-01-04 01:46:55 PM  

Teufelaffe: Teufelaffe: HighOnCraic: [cdn.uproxx.com image 650x974]

One of the hottest Alison Brie pics ever...and that's saying something.

FTFM


Holy crap...did not even know that was her...wow
 
2013-01-04 02:48:04 PM  

8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.


You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.
 
2013-01-04 03:01:49 PM  

vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.



Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.
 
2013-01-04 03:38:37 PM  

Shadowknight: Kangaroo_Ralph: Of the movies I saw, Django, Prometheus, and Skyfall were all pretty disappointing.

Cabin in the Woods and The Avengers were great. Batman was just okay.

Cabin in the Woods was a great surprise. I live in Spain per the Navy, and our exposure to American pop culture and specifically to movie advertisements is fairly limited. I keep track online where I can, but s lot slips by. Imagine my surprise when I saw a BluRay at the movie rental place on base saying "From the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Writer Director of The Avengers Joss Whedon" on the front cover. The wife and I rented it and watched it Halloween night, and really enjoyed the hell out of it.

All the Whedon universe cameos were a great touch too.

/shoulda been mermen...



Okay, weird point in the greater context of the film, but it was bugging me trying to figure how, if merman was chosen, it manages to get all of them. I mean, do you have to herd them all into the lake? Because it didn't seem to be getting around all that well on land. Yeah, I've watched it a couple of times.
 
2013-01-04 03:53:56 PM  

Teufelaffe: RaceBoatDriver: Mr_Ectomy: I enjoyed it very much. The only other movie this year that I enjoyed more was Looper.

Looper is a lazy rewrite of 12 Monkeys, needs more Madeline Stowe.

Except for the part where the only similarity to 12 Monkeys was the presence of time travel and Bruce Willis.


Pffffft.

Here's a quote Bruce Willis gave comparing Looper to 12 Monkeys.
They're very similar.

Here's Bruce Willis in another interview.
I commented that this is the second heartbroken time travel movie he's done, and they stand apart from most of the genre in the way they thematically use the time travel to give us a sort of x-ray of a character. There's something similar in the way they show these men struggling to change fate. "Well, both scripts were really, really well-written, and really had their own time-travel math down. '12 Monkeys' in the first part of the film had this proposition that my character may be completely nuts, and then I found out about halfway through that I'm not nuts, and I'm going to have to work through this future. In this film, in the script, Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character says, 'Time travel is invented in the future, but nobody really made a big deal about it, and it was mainly just used by the gangsters in this very violent way in both futures." He concluded by observing, "There's a lot of similarity."
 
2013-01-04 03:55:22 PM  

Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*


i don't care if i'm late to this

but goddamit that was about the best scene ever ever evar

reminded me of Bam Bam from the Flintstones & just as silly

/liked avengers very very much
 
2013-01-04 04:17:41 PM  
Clutch2013: MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen

God yes. That was so awesome.

Loki: I am a god, you dull creature. And I will not--
Hulk: FARK THAT NOISE. *SMASHSMASHSMASH*

i don't care if i'm late to this

but goddamit that was about the best scene ever ever evar

reminded me of Bam Bam from the Flintstones & just as silly

/liked avengers very very much.


The fabulous thing about that scene for me is that right in the middle of the smashing, the Hulk pauses very briefly and looks at Loki's broken body as if to say "this puny thing is a God?!" Then immediately smashes him a few more times.

/Yes, I've seen The Avengers often enough to notice this.
//Yes, I'm over 21.
///Yes, I have a full-time job.
////No, I don't live in my parent's basement.
 
2013-01-04 04:29:21 PM  

stoli n coke: vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.


Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.


I think one day, when you're a little bit older/wiser, you'll see that you're actually the one being a bit racist.  Of course, most people see the pleasure of murdering one particular race as racist at any age, but I'm sure you'll see that too eventually.

And as far as my perception of reality goes, tell me where I'm off?  Didn't D'Jango look forward to killing white people?  When asked if he wanted to be a bounty hunter, didn't he reply with something along the lines of "I get to kill white people and get paid for it?  Sign me up"?

Take a look in the mirror before calling other people out.  Be careful though, you just might not like what you see.
 
2013-01-04 04:50:26 PM  

8 inches: stoli n coke: vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.


Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.

I think one day, when you're a little bit older/wiser, you'll see that you're actually the one being a bit racist.  Of course, most people see the pleasure of murdering one particular race as racist at any age, but I'm sure you'll see that too eventually.

And as far as my perception of reality goes, tell me where I'm off?  Didn't D'Jango look forward to killing white people?  When asked if he wanted to be a bounty hunter, didn't he reply with something along the lines of "I get to kill white people and get paid for it?  Sign me up"?

Take a look in the mirror before calling other people out.  Be careful though, you just might not like what you see.


This is getting pathetic, Name the people he killed in that movie for reasons other than revenge, bounty, or that he was being attacked by them.
 
2013-01-04 04:53:06 PM  

8 inches: stoli n coke: vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.


Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.

I think one day, when you're a little bit older/wiser, you'll see that you're actually the one being a bit racist.  Of course, most people see the pleasure of murdering one particular race as racist at any age, but I'm sure you'll see that too eventually.

And as far as my perception of reality goes, tell me where I'm off?  Didn't D'Jango look forward to killing white people?  When asked if he wanted to be a bounty hunter, didn't he reply with something along the lines of "I get to kill white people and get paid for it?  Sign me up"?

Take a look in the mirror before calling other people out.  Be careful though, you just might not like what you see.


Good that you saw the trailer instead of the movie, thus your knowledge of one line.

SPOILER ALERTS:

Otherwise, you'd know that everyone Django and Shultz kill is asking for it. Either a dead or alive warrant is out on them, or you see them exhibit unbelievable amounts of cruelty, i.e. whipping people, forcing them to fight to the death, or having dogs tear them to pieces.

It is a revenge movie. Django is using his bounty hunting gigs to get access to the man who has enslaved his wife and has a hardon for inflicting horrible suffering on people that aren't legally allowed to fight back.

Besides, wouldn't you look forward to killing the people that took you from your wife and arranged for your wife to be in the captivity of an abusive pimp who bullwhips her and locks her into a hotbox for days at a time?

But, hey, I get it. The scary black man scared you with his scary black things. It's okay, PeeWee. It's just a movie.
 
2013-01-04 05:21:53 PM  

stoli n coke: 8 inches: stoli n coke: vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.


Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.

I think one day, when you're a little bit older/wiser, you'll see that you're actually the one being a bit racist.  Of course, most people see the pleasure of murdering one particular race as racist at any age, but I'm sure you'll see that too eventually.

And as far as my perception of reality goes, tell me where I'm off?  Didn't D'Jango look forward to killing white people?  When asked if he wanted to be a bounty hunter, didn't he reply with something along the lines of "I get to kill white people and get paid for it?  Sign me up"?

Take a look in the mirror before calling other people out.  Be careful though, you just might not like what you see.

Good that you saw the trailer instead of the movie, thus your knowledge of one line.

SPOILER ALERTS:

Otherwise, you'd know that everyone Django and Shultz kill is asking for it. Eith ...


The scary black man scared you with his scary black things

Like I said, you may want to take a look in the mirror when it comes to racism.  Try meeting other people that don't look like you for a change.  You might just find it rewarding.
 
2013-01-04 05:28:06 PM  

8 inches: Like I said, you may want to take a look in the mirror when it comes to racism.


I think someone missed the whole sarcasm/reading comprehension train.

/or just thinks "I'm rubber you're glue" is a valid tactic
 
2013-01-04 05:30:53 PM  

omeganuepsilon: 8 inches: Like I said, you may want to take a look in the mirror when it comes to racism.

I think someone missed the whole sarcasm/reading comprehension train.

/or just thinks "I'm rubber you're glue" is a valid tactic



Nah, your just a racist anytime you like a movie where the evil racist black person kills all those kind, good hearted white folk who owned the slave plantations.

Guess 1 and a half inches is still mad no one like his screenplay for "The Happy Slave."
 
2013-01-04 05:52:07 PM  

stoli n coke: omeganuepsilon: 8 inches: Like I said, you may want to take a look in the mirror when it comes to racism.

I think someone missed the whole sarcasm/reading comprehension train.

/or just thinks "I'm rubber you're glue" is a valid tactic


Nah, your just a racist anytime you like a movie where the evil racist black person kills all those kind, good hearted white folk who owned the slave plantations.

Guess 1 and a half inches is still mad no one like his screenplay for "The Happy Slave."


Who said the "white folk" in that movie were kind or good hearted?  I sure didn't.  I just said that anytime someone seeks to kill a certain race of people, regardless of their justification, it's racism.  I'm sure Hitler had plenty of "reasons" why it was okay to kill the Jews, and those reasons probably sounded just as rational to him as D'Jango's reasons seem to you (revenge, anger, distrust).  In both cases however, the real underlying reasons for their actions was racism.

But like I said before, get out, meet new people (even those that don't look like you) and I think you'll see that most people don't fit the stereotypes that you've imagined they would.
 
2013-01-04 05:58:17 PM  

browntimmy: 8 inches: stoli n coke: vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.


Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.

I think one day, when you're a little bit older/wiser, you'll see that you're actually the one being a bit racist.  Of course, most people see the pleasure of murdering one particular race as racist at any age, but I'm sure you'll see that too eventually.

And as far as my perception of reality goes, tell me where I'm off?  Didn't D'Jango look forward to killing white people?  When asked if he wanted to be a bounty hunter, didn't he reply with something along the lines of "I get to kill white people and get paid for it?  Sign me up"?

Take a look in the mirror before calling other people out.  Be careful though, you just might not like what you see.

This is getting pathetic, Name the people he killed in that movie for reasons other than revenge, bounty, or that he was being attacked by them.


I'll just leave this for you since you can't seem to comprehend how racist D'Jango actually was:

King Schultz:  "How do you like the bounty-hunting business?"
D'Jango:  "Kill white people and get paid for it? What's not to like?"

I'm not sure it gets any simpler than that.  Now, if you STILL don't understand how racist that comment was, just imagine if a white person had said that about black people.

Done.
 
2013-01-04 06:03:57 PM  

browntimmy: 8 inches: stoli n coke: vrax: 8 inches: vrax: 8 inches: D'Jango.

I know it's cool and hip to say that movie was good, but it wasn't. If I wanted to see black people killing white people with impunity, I'd move to a big city.

Hmmm, that must be a different film. Because the Django I saw had a white and black team of state sanctioned bounty hunters going after criminals and sick fark slavers. I know. "innocent white folk" in your book. You were probably annoyed that some Jews killed poor ol' Hitler in "Inglorious Basterds", too.

If that's how you interpreted it, then yes, I'd agree, we definitely saw two different films.

Apparently you saw a film that featured a righteous superhero that traveled the countryside righting injustice.  I saw a racist murderer that got off on killing people of a certain ethnicity.  Frankly, if I'd wanted to see a movie like that, I'd have rented a documentary about Auschwitz.

You might want to consult with a psychologist, because your perception of reality is quite distorted.


Nah, he just thinks it's cool to come off as an Internet Tough Guy with a racist streak. I'm sure his mommy thinks he's very cool.

I think one day, when you're a little bit older/wiser, you'll see that you're actually the one being a bit racist.  Of course, most people see the pleasure of murdering one particular race as racist at any age, but I'm sure you'll see that too eventually.

And as far as my perception of reality goes, tell me where I'm off?  Didn't D'Jango look forward to killing white people?  When asked if he wanted to be a bounty hunter, didn't he reply with something along the lines of "I get to kill white people and get paid for it?  Sign me up"?

Take a look in the mirror before calling other people out.  Be careful though, you just might not like what you see.

This is getting pathetic, Name the people he killed in that movie for reasons other than revenge, bounty, or that he was being attacked by them.


Oh, and one last thing.  If you want me to name a white person that D'Jango killed that wasn't for revenge, bounty or that he was being attacked by that's easy: (Spoiler Alert)  Leonardo DiCaprio's sister.  He just blew her away and she had never done anything even remotely rude/disrespectful to anyone.

NOW I'm done.
 
2013-01-04 06:12:53 PM  

8 inches: stoli n coke: omeganuepsilon: 8 inches: Like I said, you may want to take a look in the mirror when it comes to racism.

I think someone missed the whole sarcasm/reading comprehension train.

/or just thinks "I'm rubber you're glue" is a valid tactic


Nah, your just a racist anytime you like a movie where the evil racist black person kills all those kind, good hearted white folk who owned the slave plantations.

Guess 1 and a half inches is still mad no one like his screenplay for "The Happy Slave."

Who said the "white folk" in that movie were kind or good hearted?  I sure didn't.  I just said that anytime someone seeks to kill a certain race of people, regardless of their justification, it's racism.



What other people would he have wanted to kill? Other slaves? Indians? People that were not wanted abd had nothing to do with his predicament or the predicament his wife was in?

Also, He didn't just kill people of a certain race. Plus, how do you know all the bounties were out for white people? Do you really think a one minute montage encapsulates an entire winter of hunting?
 
2013-01-04 06:15:53 PM  
Oh, and uh, One and a Half Inches, Leo's sister was not innocent through both her complicit consent of the activities of her brother and the fact that she had all intention to keep the plantation going after his demise.
 
2013-01-04 06:40:05 PM  

FoxKelfonne: I love it when people make statements telling people to watch Shakespeare for smart entertainment, when all the while, Shakespeare was the master of the Elizabethan era fart joke.


Had to keep the groundlings from flinging rotten fruit, you know.
 
2013-01-04 06:45:55 PM  

stoli n coke: What other people would he have wanted to kill? Other slaves? Indians? People that were not wanted abd had nothing to do with his predicament or the predicament his wife was in?


This, in context of the movie(and hence the time period and location), whites were pretty despicable.

I haven't seen the movie, however.

8 inches: Leonardo DiCaprio's sister.  He just blew her away and she had never done anything even remotely rude/disrespectful to anyone.


From the wiki:
As punishment, Calvin's sister, Lara, arranges for Django to be sent to a coal mine and worked to death.

Not even remotely disrespectful?
 
2013-01-04 07:33:31 PM  

8 inches: In both cases however, the real underlying reasons for their actions was racism.


So your issue with the movie was the motivation of the main character included racism? So, you would have hated Die Hard if McClane had a line near the beginning, "God damn, I farking hate Europeans and wish they would all die"?
 
2013-01-04 08:05:28 PM  

omeganuepsilon: stoli n coke: What other people would he have wanted to kill? Other slaves? Indians? People that were not wanted abd had nothing to do with his predicament or the predicament his wife was in?

This, in context of the movie(and hence the time period and location), whites were pretty despicable.

I haven't seen the movie, however.

8 inches: Leonardo DiCaprio's sister.  He just blew her away and she had never done anything even remotely rude/disrespectful to anyone.

From the wiki:
As punishment, Calvin's sister, Lara, arranges for Django to be sent to a coal mine and worked to death.

Not even remotely disrespectful?


This was not mentioned as Lara's idea in the movie but as Samuel Jackson's.  She was just murdered in cold blood (in a fairly spectacular manner by the way) by D'Jango.

Also, I'd suggest actually seeing a movie first before you contribute your 2 cents about a person's opinion of a film.  Because when you begin to call in to question someone's reading comprehension or intimate that they are using the "I'm rubber you're glue" axiom about a subject you know nothing about...well, you begin to almost look as foolish as Stoli n Coke.  Almost.
 
2013-01-04 08:12:09 PM  

8 inches: I'm sure Hitler had plenty of "reasons" why it was okay to kill the Jews, and those reasons probably sounded just as rational to him as D'Jango's reasons seem to you (revenge, anger, distrust). In both cases however, the real underlying reasons for their actions was racism.


Hitler's Final Solution is just like a slave wanting to get revenge on the people who enslaved him? It's like Godwin's Law and Poe's Law are shooting proton packs, and they accidentally crossed the streams . . .

/I haven't seen the movie yet; does Django also kill the German guy who hires him? I mean, your point seems to be that Django hates all white people, so . . .
 
2013-01-04 08:12:26 PM  

8 inches: omeganuepsilon: stoli n coke: What other people would he have wanted to kill? Other slaves? Indians? People that were not wanted abd had nothing to do with his predicament or the predicament his wife was in?

This, in context of the movie(and hence the time period and location), whites were pretty despicable.

I haven't seen the movie, however.

8 inches: Leonardo DiCaprio's sister.  He just blew her away and she had never done anything even remotely rude/disrespectful to anyone.

From the wiki:
As punishment, Calvin's sister, Lara, arranges for Django to be sent to a coal mine and worked to death.

Not even remotely disrespectful?

This was not mentioned as Lara's idea in the movie but as Samuel Jackson's.  She was just murdered in cold blood (in a fairly spectacular manner by the way) by D'Jango.

Also, I'd suggest actually seeing a movie first before you contribute your 2 cents about a person's opinion of a film.  Because when you begin to call in to question someone's reading comprehension or intimate that they are using the "I'm rubber you're glue" axiom about a subject you know nothing about...well, you begin to almost look as foolish as Stoli n Coke.  Almost.



Samuel Jackson's character was a slave. The head slave, but still a slave. He had no authority to arrange that kind of deal without Lara's say-so, seeing as how she was the only person left alive with any claim to the plantation.

Think about it. The guy who was about to cut Django up was a paid employee of the plantation. Do you really think he'd have taken an order from a slave to back off unless that order came from someone higher up the lader?

No. The sister signed off on it.
 
2013-01-04 08:50:27 PM  
Meh, tolerating Calvin and living like a stepford wife at his side is just as bad as being Calvin.

If this is the ONLY example you can find, well, that's a laugh.

Troll harder.
 
2013-01-04 08:58:12 PM  

stoli n coke: 8 inches: omeganuepsilon: stoli n coke: What other people would he have wanted to kill? Other slaves? Indians? People that were not wanted abd had nothing to do with his predicament or the predicament his wife was in?

This, in context of the movie(and hence the time period and location), whites were pretty despicable.

I haven't seen the movie, however.

8 inches: Leonardo DiCaprio's sister.  He just blew her away and she had never done anything even remotely rude/disrespectful to anyone.

From the wiki:
As punishment, Calvin's sister, Lara, arranges for Django to be sent to a coal mine and worked to death.

Not even remotely disrespectful?

This was not mentioned as Lara's idea in the movie but as Samuel Jackson's.  She was just murdered in cold blood (in a fairly spectacular manner by the way) by D'Jango.

Also, I'd suggest actually seeing a movie first before you contribute your 2 cents about a person's opinion of a film.  Because when you begin to call in to question someone's reading comprehension or intimate that they are using the "I'm rubber you're glue" axiom about a subject you know nothing about...well, you begin to almost look as foolish as Stoli n Coke.  Almost.


Samuel Jackson's character was a slave. The head slave, but still a slave. He had no authority to arrange that kind of deal without Lara's say-so, seeing as how she was the only person left alive with any claim to the plantation.

Think about it. The guy who was about to cut Django up was a paid employee of the plantation. Do you really think he'd have taken an order from a slave to back off unless that order came from someone higher up the lader?

No. The sister signed off on it.


The sister was also the one who had Hilda put in the hot box for 10 days for attempting to escape.
 
2013-01-04 10:07:24 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Meh, tolerating Calvin and living like a stepford wife at his side is just as bad as being Calvin.

If this is the ONLY example you can find, well, that's a laugh.

Troll harder.



He still needs to "white knight" his cause that the movie was racist for killing the innocent white wimmins, even though she wasn't innocent at all.
 
2013-01-04 10:33:27 PM  

ZeroCorpse: TDKR was dull. Just... Dull. How can you take a great Batman story like Knightfall and turn it into a dull, plodding, self-absorbed movie like this? Bane is nothing like the source character (they might as well have given him a new name) and Catwoman, while not guilty of making groan-worthy puns as usually seen on film, was as much a sadsack as everyone else. Talia's appearance was less of a twist and more of a deus ex, and Bruce was just annoying as hell from start to finish.

Compare that to the animated The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 and you'll see what I mean. Why is it that Warner Bros. animation can get DC characters so RIGHT while WB live-action always makes them sad, whiny, BORING and sanctimonious? Young Justice rocks. Pretty much every Batman animated feature rocks. Even the Superman animated features beat the shiat out of live-action stuff! If you haven't seen Superman vs. The Elite, you should check it out.

Meanwhile, The Avengers was fun! It was a dumb movie, sure, but it was a rollercoaster ride, not a long tunnel of self-introspection and deep psychological investigation. I enjoyed Avengers because it didn't try to be more than it is. Superheroes, by definition, are ridiculous. Why try to Nolanize them and make them 'serious' to the point of removing all the fun from it?

I have my gripes with Whedon, but he handled Avengers perfectly. Frankly, I think it's a shame he can't have a crack at a Marvel Studios version of Spider-Man, and from me (major Spidey fan) that's high praise for his directing talents.

Actually, if Marvel develops Starfox as a character (no, not the stupid Nintendo anthropomorphic fox, either) I'd like to see what Whedon does with him. He'd also be awesome at a She-Hulk movie, I think.



As for Nolan, I like him. Some of his movies are among my favorites, but his Batman was dull as dried beans, and I would like to see him stay away from superheroes from now on.

I just really don't get why Timm and Dini can't have a crack at a live action Batman.


I apologize from fawning over Timm and Dining so much on fark, but I really wish they'd be allowed a crack at ANY DC hero movie. I grew up a Marvel fan but started getting pulled into DC through them. Their biggest strengths are distilling down the core of characters and giving minor characters some respect. Jlu got me reading tons of minor character comics.

Point is, they can take characters with crazy back stories, multiple interpretations and long histories and make them accessible. I bet 90% of the pitch for the Jonah hex movie was showing the batman episode then following up with "wouldn't this be totally awesome and totally not a poor man's wild wild west?"
 
2013-01-04 10:36:55 PM  

stoli n coke: omeganuepsilon: 8 inches: Like I said, you may want to take a look in the mirror when it comes to racism.

I think someone missed the whole sarcasm/reading comprehension train.

/or just thinks "I'm rubber you're glue" is a valid tactic


Nah, your just a racist anytime you like a movie where the evil racist black person kills all those kind, good hearted white folk who owned the slave plantations.

Guess 1 and a half inches is still mad no one like his screenplay for "The Happy Slave."


He really liked uncle Ruckus's telling of the freeman ancestor
 
2013-01-05 12:49:53 AM  

8 inches: I'm not sure it gets any simpler than that. Now, if you STILL don't understand how racist that comment was, just imagine if a white person had said that about black people.


When are you knuckleheads going to get it through your skulls that this is not an appropriate blanket "test" for racism? Racism is a complex cultural issue, not a coin with two sides. I get that you have a vested interest in misunderstanding the subject; it allows you to oversimplify and try to pretend that racism doesn't exist. I get that you think it's unfair that "those people" have a "card they can play" whenever you do or say something that you think is fine, but everyone else with a brain in their head finds unacceptable. I get that you have serious limitations when it comes to empathy. But for fark's sake.... if you're smart enough to turn on your computer, navigate the web, and bang words out on a keyboard, you should be smart enough to understand that racism isn't a "game" you can "win" by painting yourself as a victim.

If you are white, male, and American, you are not, and never have been an oppressed minority. You were born into your culture with numerous overwhelming advantages. Quit your farking whining. You look like a fool.

And I didn't see Django, but if you're empathizing with white slave owners in the movie, or with the Nazis in Inglorious Basterds for that matter, there's something seriously wrong with you.
 
2013-01-05 02:55:11 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).

He is one of those guys that is just good at whatever they ask him to do. Love or hate the movies you can't say he wasn't good in The Chronicles of Riddick, Doom, and Priest.


Urban seems to be one of the few younger actors around that can actually act, and not just look pretty/badass or crack jokes on the screen. He's got to scowl a little less, though, imho.
 
2013-01-05 03:30:35 AM  

starsrift: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).

He is one of those guys that is just good at whatever they ask him to do. Love or hate the movies you can't say he wasn't good in The Chronicles of Riddick, Doom, and Priest.

Urban seems to be one of the few younger actors around that can actually act, and not just look pretty/badass or crack jokes on the screen. He's got to scowl a little less, though, imho.


Urban is not young (he's 41). I remember when he playing Cupid on Hercules back in the day.
 
2013-01-05 05:06:32 AM  

Z-clipped: 8 inches: I'm not sure it gets any simpler than that. Now, if you STILL don't understand how racist that comment was, just imagine if a white person had said that about black people.

When are you knuckleheads going to get it through your skulls that this is not an appropriate blanket "test" for racism? Racism is a complex cultural issue, not a coin with two sides. I get that you have a vested interest in misunderstanding the subject; it allows you to oversimplify and try to pretend that racism doesn't exist. I get that you think it's unfair that "those people" have a "card they can play" whenever you do or say something that you think is fine, but everyone else with a brain in their head finds unacceptable. I get that you have serious limitations when it comes to empathy. But for fark's sake.... if you're smart enough to turn on your computer, navigate the web, and bang words out on a keyboard, you should be smart enough to understand that racism isn't a "game" you can "win" by painting yourself as a victim.

If you are white, male, and American, you are not, and never have been an oppressed minority. You were born into your culture with numerous overwhelming advantages. Quit your farking whining. You look like a fool.

And I didn't see Django, but if you're empathizing with white slave owners in the movie, or with the Nazis in Inglorious Basterds for that matter, there's something seriously wrong with you.


Like you said, you didn't see the movie.
 
2013-01-05 05:16:03 AM  

8 inches: Z-clipped: 8 inches: I'm not sure it gets any simpler than that. Now, if you STILL don't understand how racist that comment was, just imagine if a white person had said that about black people.

When are you knuckleheads going to get it through your skulls that this is not an appropriate blanket "test" for racism? Racism is a complex cultural issue, not a coin with two sides. I get that you have a vested interest in misunderstanding the subject; it allows you to oversimplify and try to pretend that racism doesn't exist. I get that you think it's unfair that "those people" have a "card they can play" whenever you do or say something that you think is fine, but everyone else with a brain in their head finds unacceptable. I get that you have serious limitations when it comes to empathy. But for fark's sake.... if you're smart enough to turn on your computer, navigate the web, and bang words out on a keyboard, you should be smart enough to understand that racism isn't a "game" you can "win" by painting yourself as a victim.

If you are white, male, and American, you are not, and never have been an oppressed minority. You were born into your culture with numerous overwhelming advantages. Quit your farking whining. You look like a fool.

And I didn't see Django, but if you're empathizing with white slave owners in the movie, or with the Nazis in Inglorious Basterds for that matter, there's something seriously wrong with you.

Like you said, you didn't see the movie.


Like he said, it sounds like there's something seriously wrong with you.
 
2013-01-05 07:25:18 AM  

8 inches: Like you said, you didn't see the movie.


Irrelevant. Your reasoning is puerile, regardless of your conclusion. The problem with you calling the film racist isn't whether or not it's racist... it's that you seem to have a petulant 10-year-old's understanding of what racism is.

Note: I just read some reviews, and it's apparently another Tarantino genre piece, mixing blaxploitation with spaghetti western. I don't even need to see this film to know that you don't understand it. Read this, and then watch this. If you still think Tarantino is a racist, please drown yourself in the bathtub because you're endangering the lives of others by walking around and speaking.
 
2013-01-05 04:53:24 PM  
starsrift: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Soulcatcher: Urban is steadily growing on me. LOTR was the first time I really noticed him and I was somewhat underwhelmed by his Eomer (who seemed to only have one expression throughout all three films- "I'm very concerned").

I absolutely loved him as Bones in the new Star Trek, and last week I saw the film Red for the first time and he was excellent in that. I enjoyed that movie much more than I thought I would (mostly because I adore Helen Mirren and John Malkovich).

He is one of those guys that is just good at whatever they ask him to do. Love or hate the movies you can't say he wasn't good in The Chronicles of Riddick, Doom, and Priest.

Urban seems to be one of the few younger actors around that can actually act, and not just look pretty/badass or crack jokes on the screen. He's got to scowl a little less, though, imho.

carnifex2005: Urban is not young (he's 41). I remember when he playing Cupid on Hercules back in the day.


He played both Cupid

unleashthefanboy.s3.amazonaws.com

And Cesar

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
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