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2013-01-03 01:09:30 PM
Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.
 
2013-01-03 01:11:40 PM
Bad movie, but "most overrated" would have to go to Skyfall.
 
2013-01-03 01:12:15 PM
That must mean that Les Miserables wasn't rated well, because it was way worse than Avengers.
 
2013-01-03 01:15:41 PM
Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.
 
2013-01-03 01:16:50 PM
Sounds right.
 
2013-01-03 01:17:10 PM
The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen
 
2013-01-03 01:17:15 PM

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I like yours better than mine.

/Dredd was surprisingly good.
 
2013-01-03 01:18:43 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*


No. No one saw the previews for that and thought it looked remotely good.
 
2013-01-03 01:19:43 PM

Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*


That movie is pulling a 55% at Metacritic. Not exactly highly rated.
 
2013-01-03 01:26:46 PM

JerseyTim: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*

That movie is pulling a 55% at Metacritic. Not exactly highly rated.


Then I guess its a good thing this thread is about the most  overrated movie, and not the most highly rated.
 
2013-01-03 01:28:51 PM
Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.
 
2013-01-03 01:29:07 PM

Gig103: That must mean that Les Miserables wasn't rated well, because it was way worse than Avengers.


oh, look how edgy and cool you are.
 
2013-01-03 01:30:40 PM

Wayne 985: Good fun, but a shallow plot and characters spread too thin.


But some of the best eye candy assembled on the big screen in ages.
 
2013-01-03 01:31:28 PM

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


I'm looking forward to the Hulk and Captain America sequels. Iron Man 3 looks so-so (not a huge fan of that character). The first Thor was godawful, and I'm sick of Loki, so I'll be skipping those unless they get rave reviews.
 
2013-01-03 01:33:31 PM
I only saw about three theatrical releases.  One was "The Avengers" and it exceeded my expectations.  It was a farking group superhero movie.  It had a lot of ways it could have sucked.  It was great.

Fark this thread.
 
2013-01-03 01:40:16 PM
I was waiting for a good avengers movie since I was 5.  It was great.
 
2013-01-03 01:42:13 PM
Prometheus.
Not even a question.
 
2013-01-03 01:42:31 PM
I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.
 
2013-01-03 01:45:41 PM

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


And Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
2013-01-03 01:48:01 PM

Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.
 
2013-01-03 01:49:37 PM
I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin along!"
 
2013-01-03 01:49:53 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Apos: I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

I will have to NetFlix that post-haste.  I noticed it popped up the other day as a new release I can watch instantly.



You won't regret it. It's Jack Black's best role to date.
 
2013-01-03 01:52:43 PM
I guess it depends on your definitions. For disparity between critical praise and my enjoyment of a film, I'd have to vote for Life of Pi. It felt like when I wasn't being hit over the head with CGI effects, I was being hit over the head with THIS IS THE MESSAGE. To call Life of Pi ham-handed is an insult to both ham and hands.
 
2013-01-03 01:54:19 PM

Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


TDKR was a bit overhyped, but it mostly lived up to its promise. There was good substance to it, which is why I still prefer it.
 
2013-01-03 01:57:25 PM

texdent: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

And Guardians of the Galaxy.


I won't be surprised if this entire franchise makes a trillion combined.  The fan boys I know watched The Avengers in theaters up to 3 times.
 
2013-01-03 02:04:04 PM

Wayne 985: Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.

TDKR was a bit overhyped, but it mostly lived up to its promise. There was good substance to it, which is why I still prefer it.


That much I agree with. It just seemed....sloppier and more rushed compared to its predecessor.
 
2013-01-03 02:05:52 PM
"The Avengers" is fun, but that's all. There is virtually no plot. The Avengers get together with relative ease, have a big fight, and all is well. Absolutely entertaining, but not the great movie that so many people have made it out to be. THAT said, not all movies have to be some epic, life-changing story and being just entertaining is more than enough.
 
2013-01-03 02:20:18 PM

Apos: I disagree. The Avengers not only lived up to the hype, it exceeded it. The Dark Knight Rises OTOH wasn't nearly as stellar as the critics claimed and should therefore be #1.

I agree with Bernie's designation, though.


Agreed 110%.  I loved Avengers.  Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie.  It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck through.
 
2013-01-03 02:21:02 PM

serpent_sky: Absolutely entertaining, but not the great movie that so many people have made it out to be.


It could have done with a whole lot less Whedon.
 
2013-01-03 02:26:13 PM

Wayne 985: LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.

I'm looking forward to the Hulk and Captain America sequels. Iron Man 3 looks so-so (not a huge fan of that character). The first Thor was godawful, and I'm sick of Loki, so I'll be skipping those unless they get rave reviews.


While Captain America and The Avengers are probably the pinnacle of Marvel Studios work, I'd say Thor, while not excellent, is definitely in the third or fourth in line, amusingly enough fighting with The Incredible Hulk.
 
2013-01-03 02:26:13 PM

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.


Do you really have fun at the theater? I've enjoyed myself, sure, but I don't think I've ever had fun
 
2013-01-03 02:29:30 PM
Award worthy....

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2013-01-03 02:38:06 PM

Errk: Award worthy....

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I, uh... Well, heck, I really hated that character. She and Hawkeye were utter bores and the actors didn't even seem to have an interest in being there. Nice to look at, but giving them so much dialogue and screen time compared to the big four was a huge mistake.
 
2013-01-03 02:44:40 PM

Wayne 985: Summer Glau's Love Slave: [l.yimg.com image 450x350]

*Ahem*

No. No one saw the previews for that and thought it looked remotely good.



I went in with very low expectations-and it was even more atrocious than I'd imagined. It's time-nay, long overdue-for Depp, Burton and Bonham Carter to part ways professionally.
 
2013-01-03 02:50:51 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: The scene where Hulk thrashes Loki was one of the funniest I've ever seen


Loved when Iron Man was going to take the archer to the top of the skyscraper and he said "Clinch up, Legolas".

Just watched it last night, loved it.
 
2013-01-03 02:51:31 PM

Shadowknight: Agreed 110%. I loved Avengers. Dark Knight Rises was not even a Batman movie. It was emo Bruce Wayne crying about not wanting to be Batman with plot holes big enough to drive a truck tumbler through.

 
2013-01-03 03:02:18 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I liked Avengers -- it had no aspirations other than "Big, Dumb, Fun Popcorn Movie" and "Launch a Metric Asston of Sequels."

Yet, in a movie packed with Gods from other realms, Cosmic MacGuffins of power, a flying aircraft carrier and Robin Scherbatzky as a government agent -- the only thing that *really* kicked me out of the movie was the "We have to get Hawkeye and Black Widow on the ground for the insane, city-destroying firefight between our unstoppable superbeings and the laser-firing alien monsters! He's got a bow! She's got a pistol! We'll be lost without them!" At least they made Hawkeye the observation platform.

It would be like a Justice League movie where an asteroid is going to obliterate the earth and they say "Superman! Oh, Superman! Don't forget to take Wendy and Marvin along!"


I seem to remember a few lines in the movie where Hawkeye and Black Widow admit they are out of their class and wonder why they were even going in. But even before the fight, they got to show some of their potential, Black Widow at intelligence/data gathering and Hawkeye shows some ability for planning and organization, since it is quietly implied that he does a lot of the planning of getting manpower, resources for building the gateway and planning the attack on the Helicarrier.
 
2013-01-03 03:14:41 PM

LeroyBourne: Just wait until Avengers parts 2 and 3, or The Hulk's own movie, and I hear that will be made into a trilogy too.  And Thor parts 2 and 3...oh and Captain America parts 2 and 3 too....let's not forget Iron man too.


Are you forgetting the Ed Norton Hulk movie? He's pretty good as Banner (mostly because he has the "talking like a dork" thing down) - I wonder if he could have survived The Avengers.

That said, are they making a Hulk 2(/3) with Ruffalo where they finally explain that Banner can Hulk out both at will and not at will? Because they just sort of implied it, and it took me coming up with that explanation on my own to explain the movie. The gap between the end of Ed Norton ("When I lose control...I kinda like it") and the beginning of Ruffalo ("Hi! I work as an underpaid physician in Calcutta to cut down on my stress levels!") could have done with some filling in.

// and I like The Avengers
// my gf - who has seen like 10 movies total in her life - liked it as well, even knowing next to nothing about the Big 4 going in (I had to explain to her who Thor is)
 
2013-01-03 03:22:28 PM

Sybarite: I guess it depends on your definitions. For disparity between critical praise and my enjoyment of a film, I'd have to vote for Life of Pi. It felt like when I wasn't being hit over the head with CGI effects, I was being hit over the head with THIS IS THE MESSAGE. To call Life of Pi ham-handed is an insult to both ham and hands.


I agree with this.  While it was a beautiful flim and the best and most convincing use of CGI I've seen it was a simplistic spiritual unification parable stretched over too much time.  I would still reccomend it for the visuals alone.
 
2013-01-03 03:29:05 PM

unlikely: Prometheus.
Not even a question.


This, without a doubt.  "Oooo, it's Ridley Scott!  And he's doing an Alien prequel!  Academy-Award Winner Charlize Theron!  Look at the great shots!  Awesome CGI!"

And it's about some absolute morons who have no idea how to conduct themselves on a research party, despite being scientists, investigating an alien race that's mad at us because we killed Jesus.

/Seriously, I'm not kidding about the killing Jesus thing   http://geektyrant.com/news/2012/6/11/ridley-scott-reveals-the-enginee r s-true-intentions-is-it-con.html
 
2013-01-03 03:35:38 PM
A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.
 
2013-01-03 03:39:38 PM

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.
 
2013-01-03 03:42:14 PM

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


I'm right there with you, well except I loved the books and LOTR movies. But I have no desire to see The Hobbit. I think it's the blatant cash grab of splitting the single book into another trilogy that just turned me off of it.
 
2013-01-03 03:51:04 PM

Shadowknight: brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.

It's funny.  All my friends loved Lord of the Rings as kids. They loved the movies as adults.  They couldn't wait for the Hobbit.  I just...  Never cared.  I'm a card carrying geek, but I just can't give a flying fark about any of it.  I watched the movies, and never once felt any interest or excitement for any of the goings on.

I know I'm a minority, because I know non-geeks that loved the movies.  And I don't know WHY I don't care, because it sounds like a decent enough story I'd normally be all about.  But it just bores me to tears for some reason.


LOTR is horribly written.  The Hobbit gets a pass because it's YA Fiction.  Otherwise, it's really just a travelogue with a dragon thrown in.  For me, it's still kind of a fun book because it doesn't have the gravitas that Tolkein gave everything else he ever wrote.  His universe is incredible--it's just a damn shame he's so bad at writing about it.  He spends as much time describing a blade of grass as he does Eowyn defeating the Witch King.  It's just awful to slog through so I don't blame anyone for not enjoying the books.

The movies, though--your response surprises me.  Unless you're just not a fantasy fan (and there's obviously nothing wrong with that), the LOTR movies were pretty damn good.  Yeah, it dragged in parts (usually during anything involving Arwen) but overall they were done well.  Even RT.com gives all three movies an average of 94%.  Maybe your LOTR geek friends have just hyped up Tolkein to the point where you're just tired of it?

In either event, don't see Hobbit.  If you didn't like the three LOTR movies, you'll positively hate The Hobbit.
 
2013-01-03 03:52:52 PM
I thought The Avengers was pretty good, actually. I think they handled a lot of goofy ass characters at the same time pretty well. The villain was a little weak but overall it was a decent film.
 
2013-01-03 04:21:00 PM

brigid_fitch: The movies, though--your response surprises me.  Unless you're just not a fantasy fan (and there's obviously nothing wrong with that), the LOTR movies were pretty damn good.


I actually AM a fantasy fan.  But having never made it past the first book, despite multiple times throughout my life to do so, I just didn't have the reference to really care about the characters I think.  Outside of Frodo and  Gandalf, I can't even remember any of the characters' names.  Well, maybe Sam, but that's because he had such an intense man-crush on Frodo.  About the only thing from any of the movies I liked was Gollum, and thought the actor should have walked away with an academy award for doing everything he had to do for that role.

But the rest of it, I don't know why I just can't dig on it.  I mean, I AM a fantasy fan, and Tolkien basically created the template for almost every fantasy setting since then.  But LotR itself is just out of my grasp of interest.  It's like soccer for me:  I want to have an interest in it, since everyone else in the world seems to love it, but only rarely can I muster up enough interest to care.
 
2013-01-03 04:26:52 PM

brigid_fitch: A close second to Prometheus as most overhyped HAS to be The Hobbit.  And I absolutely loved the book when I was a kid and have re-read it many times over the years.  That movie's been promoted like mad for almost a year, only to give us something padded it out to 2 1/2 hours and fill it full of....just junk.  Storm Giants?  Radagast?  The whole thing w/the Pale Orc?  Ugh.  Just tell the damn story, Jackson, or you're going to end up like Thror--crazy and obsessed with gold.


I agree. Saw it with the wife earlier this week.

It's good, but they could have easily left about an hour of it on the cutting room floor and the movie wouldn't have suffered one bit.

That was the real strength of the LOTR films. Jackson took a rambling, incoherent mess of a story and pared it down into a (relatively) tight narrative that moves from beginning to end with a purpose. In this case, Jackson took a fairly straight-forward story and added pointless sequences that don't move the story forward.

/yay money!
 
2013-01-03 04:34:34 PM

scottydoesntknow: Fark that, "The Avengers" was the most fun I had in theaters all year.

"Prometheus" was the biggest letdown.

"Dredd" was the biggest surprise for me this year. I went in with very low expectations, but was thorougly impressed. And Karl Urban as Dredd was just fantastic. Too bad it did terribly in the theaters, they really could've done something with that franchise.


I agree with all of this, except I haven't seen Dredd yet. My brother says it's good, though.
 
2013-01-03 04:34:59 PM
I actually enjoyed the Avengers... My favorite part (***Spoiler Alert - so stop reading now if you don't want to know***) was when the Hulk grabbed Loki mid sentence and whooped his ass. I laughed heartily at that. :)
 
2013-01-03 04:38:00 PM
[Avengers spoiler alert] Was there any justification for Hulk to go smashing through the ship trying to kill whatsername when later we find out he was in control of the Hulk all the time?
 
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