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(Journal News)   Suburban NY newspaper published names and addresses of gun permit holders. Some people had a problem with this, like the guy who mailed them suspicious white powder   (lohud.com) divider line 149
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2013-01-03 01:07:24 PM
Who cares.
 
2013-01-03 01:07:59 PM
Well, that's one way to ensure that you get your gun permit taken away.
 
2013-01-03 01:08:37 PM
sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-03 01:09:50 PM
I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.
 
2013-01-03 01:10:00 PM
In Florida, it would be much easier to list those who DO NOT HAVE guns. All 5 of them.
 
2013-01-03 01:10:01 PM
Envelopes don't people. Powder does.
 
2013-01-03 01:10:18 PM
A 3-day waiting period and background check before buying flour is obviously needed.
 
2013-01-03 01:11:02 PM
(kill people)
how'd that drop out?
 
2013-01-03 01:11:31 PM

AJatHP: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x399]


Oh, snap.
 
2013-01-03 01:13:27 PM

studs up: (kill people)
how'd that drop out?


Should've sealed your envelope better.
 
2013-01-03 01:14:57 PM
Where's the problem? As we all know, every dangerous wackadoo specifically targets places with GUN FREE ZONE signs displayed. Surely advertising the fact that you're armed will act as a deterrent to the same wackadoos.

/trolololo
 
2013-01-03 01:15:23 PM
Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.
 
2013-01-03 01:15:50 PM

Theaetetus: AJatHP: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x399]

Oh, snap.


FTA: While 37.5 per cent of the homicides involved guns, 25 per cent were a result of blunt force trauma and 12.5 per cent were drownings

I find this...odd. Is drowning a popular murderkilldie method in Canada? Are the mounties on the look out for men walking aboot with large tubs of water? Just odd.
 
2013-01-03 01:16:34 PM

Theaetetus: AJatHP: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x399]

Oh, snap.


Didn't get the joke, did you?

This story has been done to death - the newspaper is clearly grasping here and nothing good will come of what they published. They did it purely to demonize law-abiding citizens. It will only lead to people NOT registering their handguns. Who wants their info published in the paper (even if it is publicly available)?

Also, there is a good chance that some people on "Ze List" have valid threats against their lives, or have occupations where they need a permit (security guards for example...).
 
2013-01-03 01:16:35 PM
All they did was publish the adresses of non gun owners.. Dear mr criminal, go nuts.
 
2013-01-03 01:20:22 PM
www.chonilla.com
 
2013-01-03 01:20:38 PM
"Hey, does this smell like anthrax to anyone?"
 
2013-01-03 01:21:06 PM

base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.


.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.
 
2013-01-03 01:23:27 PM
Yeah they're not shy about resorting to terrorism if you disagree with their politics. Disgusting bunch of crazies that continually provide the best examples as to why gun control is needed.
 
2013-01-03 01:26:46 PM

syberpud: Theaetetus: AJatHP: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x399]

Oh, snap.

Didn't get the joke, did you?

This story has been done to death - the newspaper is clearly grasping here and nothing good will come of what they published. They did it purely to demonize law-abiding citizens. It will only lead to people NOT registering their handguns. Who wants their info published in the paper (even if it is publicly available)?

Also, there is a good chance that some people on "Ze List" have valid threats against their lives, or have occupations where they need a permit (security guards for example...).


Yes, and? The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit, not an act of domestic terrorism.
 
2013-01-03 01:28:56 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 01:31:32 PM

studs up: Theaetetus: AJatHP: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x399]

Oh, snap.

FTA: While 37.5 per cent of the homicides involved guns, 25 per cent were a result of blunt force trauma and 12.5 per cent were drownings

I find this...odd. Is drowning a popular murderkilldie method in Canada? Are the mounties on the look out for men walking aboot with large tubs of water? Just odd.


Canada has a lot of ice. Smashing a block of ice over a person's head and allowing it to melt and fill the victim's lungs is a popular method of homicide.

/Canada is cold.
 
2013-01-03 01:32:03 PM

fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x648]


I just posted this in the "Predictions for 2013" topic.  Pyramids on both sides of an ocean.
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 01:32:25 PM

teeny: As we all know, every dangerous wackadoo specifically targets places with GUN GOD FREE ZONE signs displayed.


ftfy, heathen.

teeny: /trolololo


/x2
 
2013-01-03 01:32:55 PM
david_gaithersburg
base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.


I thought the party of small government already introduced "Free Speech Zones" in the land of the brave and free?!
 
2013-01-03 01:33:28 PM

Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit, not an act of domestic terrorism.


Well, there's the proper response, and the what did you expect response.
 
2013-01-03 01:34:59 PM

david_gaithersburg: base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.


Citizen, you will not be required to have a speech permit. Limit yourself to the Newspeak A dictionary or you will be double plus ungood.
 
2013-01-03 01:36:08 PM

ITGreen: fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x648]

I just posted this in the "Predictions for 2013" topic.  Pyramids on both sides of an ocean.
[i.imgur.com image 850x247]


I mean, I never go to the sports tab, I never go to the business tab, I rarely go to the politics tab....

I think a Guns or Gun Violence tab would be extremely popular on this website.
 
2013-01-03 01:37:05 PM
So is this the part where Americans turn on their neighbors and offer them up for victimization to gun violence without a second thought?
 
2013-01-03 01:37:07 PM
Really miss the old days when you got an envelope of white powder, all you needed to do was snort it.
 
2013-01-03 01:37:20 PM

studs up: Theaetetus: AJatHP: [sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x399]

Oh, snap.

FTA: While 37.5 per cent of the homicides involved guns, 25 per cent were a result of blunt force trauma and 12.5 per cent were drownings

I find this...odd. Is drowning a popular murderkilldie method in Canada? Are the mounties on the look out for men walking aboot with large tubs of water? Just odd.


You're drunk driving a boat, one of your passengers falls out of the boat and drowns, it's a homicide.

/Darwin has his summer house in Canada
 
2013-01-03 01:37:43 PM

Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit


Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?
 
2013-01-03 01:37:52 PM

The Voice of Doom: david_gaithersburg
base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.

I thought the party of small government already introduced "Free Speech Zones" in the land of the brave and free?!


That was different because it was only targeting hippies.
 
2013-01-03 01:40:44 PM
Two things:
1) Ban mailing and shipping, or at the very least put some common sense controls in like waiting periods, background checks, and registrations.
2) I bet the attention whore newspaper staff mailed it themselves. Gotta keep the outrage rolling.
 
2013-01-03 01:45:22 PM

MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.


This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

www.daybydaycartoon.com
 
2013-01-03 01:50:02 PM

HotWingConspiracy: The Voice of Doom: david_gaithersburg
base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.

I thought the party of small government already introduced "Free Speech Zones" in the land of the brave and free?!

That was different because it was only targeting hippies.


.
As a gun toting hippie it seems like I never get a break.
 
2013-01-03 01:51:29 PM

david_gaithersburg: HotWingConspiracy: The Voice of Doom: david_gaithersburg
base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.

I thought the party of small government already introduced "Free Speech Zones" in the land of the brave and free?!

That was different because it was only targeting hippies.

.
As a gun toting hippie it seems like I never get a break.


165.201.143.141tunesbyt.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-03 01:51:36 PM
Preliminary tests determined that the substance was nontoxic, Chong said.

But it could have been. The only way we'll be safe is if we're all carrying biological and/or chemical weapons.
 
2013-01-03 01:52:44 PM

Geologist: I bet the attention whore newspaper staff mailed it themselves


I cannot even begin to imagine how that would play out if that was the case.
 
2013-01-03 01:52:59 PM
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/03/timelines-1313/

The first lawsuit has been filed. It seems the earlier reports of the "big list o' permit holders" was out of date were true.
 
2013-01-03 01:53:21 PM

syberpud: They did it purely to demonize law-abiding citizens. It will only lead to people NOT registering their handguns. Who wants their info published in the paper (even if it is publicly available)?


Law-abiding citizens don't pour flour in envelopes and mail them to journalists. That's domestic terrorism, honey.
 
2013-01-03 01:57:48 PM

RINO: http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/03/timelines-1313/

The first lawsuit has been filed. It seems the earlier reports of the "big list o' permit holders" was out of date were true.


Gannett is going to end up paying out a lot of money to lawyers and I suspect to those whose names have been published too
 
2013-01-03 01:58:36 PM

moothemagiccow: syberpud: They did it purely to demonize law-abiding citizens. It will only lead to people NOT registering their handguns. Who wants their info published in the paper (even if it is publicly available)?

Law-abiding citizens don't pour flour in envelopes and mail them to journalists. That's domestic terrorism, honey.


Perhaps someone wanted the journalists to be able to make some delicious, yummy cake.
It was a nice gesture and now you've turned it into something cynical and scary.
 
2013-01-03 01:58:40 PM

teeny: Where's the problem? As we all know, every dangerous wackadoo specifically targets places with GUN FREE ZONE signs displayed. Surely advertising the fact that you're armed will act as a deterrent to the same wackadoos.

/trolololo


Whackos? Yes.

Thugs who want to steal a weapon to use in further criminal activities? Not so much.

/recall a story about a gal who lost her husband to cancer.
//the next day after the paper published the obituary, two guys attempted to rob her thinking she'd have a bunch of his pain medication left over
///bonus: it was Christmas day.
 
2013-01-03 02:05:00 PM
Newspaper chief editor laments the loss of today's coke shipment.
 
2013-01-03 02:07:15 PM
t0.gstatic.com

This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2013-01-03 02:07:38 PM

cuzsis: /recall a story about a gal who lost her husband to cancer.
//the next day after the paper published the obituary, two guys attempted to rob her thinking she'd have a bunch of his pain medication left over
///bonus: it was Christmas day.


Wow, that takes some unsympathetic balls
 
2013-01-03 02:10:20 PM
Where's the story here?

Legal gun owners are simply responding in their typical law-abiding, responsible, calm, and rational manner.
 
2013-01-03 02:12:11 PM

jaytkay: Where's the story here?

Legal gun owners are simply responding in their typical law-abiding, responsible, calm, and rational manner.


.
The reporters at this publication are attention whores, my bet is that they mailed it to themselves.
 
2013-01-03 02:15:12 PM

moothemagiccow: syberpud: They did it purely to demonize law-abiding citizens. It will only lead to people NOT registering their handguns. Who wants their info published in the paper (even if it is publicly available)?

Law-abiding citizens don't pour flour in envelopes and mail them to journalists. That's domestic terrorism, honey.


Hey sweet cheeks, why do we just ASSUME it's some evil gun owner who sent this envelope to the paper?

The profession of "journalist" is full of vapid, self centered attention whores, sugar.

Newspaper publishes controversial story, hires armed guards & gets a lot of "blow back" for it.

Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.

Newspaper people now look like the victims of a bunch of crazed gun yahoos and become what they like to be the best. The center of the story.

I'm gonna say that's more likely than some cross eyed gun yahoo doing it....
 
2013-01-03 02:17:34 PM

studs up: (kill people)
how'd that drop out?


Accidentally.
 
2013-01-03 02:19:21 PM
You mean publishing names of people to publically intimidate them can lead to bad outcomes for the names listed?
 
2013-01-03 02:21:36 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit

Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?


Could well be. Bear in mind that I'm talking about the civil tort of invasion of privacy, not some criminal act.
 
2013-01-03 02:22:32 PM
Good to see people condoning acts of domestic terrorism
 
2013-01-03 02:23:47 PM

Doom MD: You mean publishing names of people to publically intimidate them can lead to bad outcomes for the names listed?


Ah, therein lies the problem.
 
2013-01-03 02:23:53 PM
Would a newspaper mail themselves a suspicious white powder to create news? Surely not. I just wonder.
 
2013-01-03 02:25:02 PM
Don't poke the hornets nest.
 
2013-01-03 02:26:18 PM
It's not like they published a list of gun owners. They published a list of people granted permits. So some of them probably don't even have (hand)guns at this time. And lots of rifle owners aren't on the map. It's ridiculous.
 
2013-01-03 02:27:12 PM

david_gaithersburg: jaytkay: Where's the story here?

Legal gun owners are simply responding in their typical law-abiding, responsible, calm, and rational manner.

.
The reporters at this publication are attention whores, my bet is that they mailed it to themselves.


This is why we need an "Unfunny" button.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:52 PM

Theaetetus: Doom MD: You mean publishing names of people to publically intimidate them can lead to bad outcomes for the names listed?

Ah, therein lies the problem.


What was the tone of the original article anyway? They could have just as easily run the map with a, "See, guns are safe. Look how many responsible gun owners live amongst us without incident!" angle.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:59 PM

meintx2001: Would a newspaper mail themselves a suspicious white powder to create news? Surely not. I just wonder.


Which is more likely?
That a newspaper would do that, risking prison time for the people involved, or some nut would do it as revenge?
 
2013-01-03 02:29:24 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Yeah they're not shy about resorting to terrorism if you disagree with their politics. Disgusting bunch of crazies that continually provide the best examples as to why gun control is needed.


Since we don't know who mailed it, couldn't it be a non gun owner pissed off about being outed as defenseless? And I'm guessing you missed the guy in the news calling for burning the NRA to the ground and killing firearm owners that won't give up their guns. Yeah, that's not wacky. LOL
 
2013-01-03 02:29:49 PM

Cdr.Murdock: Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.


Look up the definition for terrorism. Try somewhere other than CNN.

Go to a bank and hand the teller a note that says you have a gun. See how the police react when they discover you're unarmed. If you're right and this isn't terrorism, they'll laugh about it and send you home.
 
2013-01-03 02:31:54 PM

meintx2001: Since we don't know who mailed it, couldn't it be a non gun owner pissed off about being outed as defenseless?


Yes, if you don't have a gun, you are defenseless. Is that how you fairies really think? This coward just wishes they had a gun so they could be as tough as the people in the paper.
 
2013-01-03 02:32:49 PM

moothemagiccow: Cdr.Murdock: Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.

Look up the definition for terrorism. Try somewhere other than CNN.

Go to a bank and hand the teller a note that says you have a gun. See how the police react when they discover you're unarmed. If you're right and this isn't terrorism, they'll laugh about it and send you home.


"The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." - While this is terrorism, your bank example is not.
 
2013-01-03 02:34:11 PM
media.classicrockmagazine.com

Suing for definition defamation of character.
 
2013-01-03 02:38:08 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

[www.daybydaycartoon.com image 575x200]


I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

/former semi-pro cartoonist
 
2013-01-03 02:46:27 PM

buckler: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

[www.daybydaycartoon.com image 575x200]

I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

/former semi-pro cartoonist


I don't think any kind of humor came anywhere close to that cartoon.
 
2013-01-03 02:46:41 PM
I thought it was just talc for all the ass-chapping.
 
2013-01-03 02:47:29 PM

fisker: ITGreen: fisker: [i.imgur.com image 850x648]

I just posted this in the "Predictions for 2013" topic.  Pyramids on both sides of an ocean.
[i.imgur.com image 850x247]

I mean, I never go to the sports tab, I never go to the business tab, I rarely go to the politics tab....

I think a Guns or Gun Violence tab would be extremely popular on this website.


Good calls all around, but much like the Politics tab frothy derp spill-over would continue unabated.
 
2013-01-03 02:55:15 PM
But was it assault powder?
 
2013-01-03 03:01:45 PM

buckler: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

[www.daybydaycartoon.com image 575x200]

I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

/former semi-pro cartoonist


Had to check the one that preceded it for the same reason. Apparently the author is from the "two plot lines in different location with no indication of a setting change" technique. The last panel's somewhere else entirely. Apparently the other party to that conversation is funah-talkin' foreigner.
 
2013-01-03 03:05:16 PM

david_gaithersburg: base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.


Have you completely filled out Form TPS-1138?
 
2013-01-03 03:06:22 PM
I'll just drop this here...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 03:06:27 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

[www.daybydaycartoon.com image 575x200]


WTF
 
2013-01-03 03:13:17 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

[www.daybydaycartoon.com image 575x200]


Holy Shiat! Thank you SO much for that link. AWESOME webcomic.
 
2013-01-03 03:21:17 PM
Clearly someone is being framed. The pro gun lobby here on Fark have assured me that all legal gun owners are model citizens, and would never do anything remotely illegal.

A legal gun owner would never do this, considering the strict controls in place to ensure that those in position of a lethal weapon are moral and stable.

/that's are strict controls in place, right?
 
2013-01-03 03:21:57 PM

Rich Cream: It's not like they published a list of gun owners. They published a list of people granted permits. So some of them probably don't even have (hand)guns at this time.


That's *HIGHLY* unlikely. Getting a pistol permit in New York State is a long, arduous, expensive process. It requires that you pay over $100 in fees (more like $300+ in NYC), that you submit fingerprints and personal references, and then you wait months for the licensing authority to issue you one.

It's not the sort of thing you do on a whim, then decide you don't want a gun after all.

There *MAY* be some small percentage of people who have sold their guns, because they are too old, need the money, or whatever. They will be in the distinct minority, however.
 
2013-01-03 03:27:36 PM

Begoggle: meintx2001: Would a newspaper mail themselves a suspicious white powder to create news? Surely not. I just wonder.

Which is more likely?
That a newspaper would do that, risking prison time for the people involved, or some nut would do it as revenge?


Well, the paper has already demonstrated that it's staffed by asshats with poor judgement and no regard for the safety of others and their property by publishing the list in the first place, so that sort of makes theories based on them continuing to have poor judgement and putting AWing over the welfare of others somewhat more credible.

//Publishing a list of any group's private addresses without their consent is an attempt at political intimidation at best, and honestly treating it as an implied threat of violence would not really be a mis-read of the situation, as demonstrated by the reaction of the asshats in question on the turnabout.

//Everyone involved in both sides of this shiat needs to be slapped with a fine for making public threats and told to STFU and GBTW.
 
2013-01-03 03:31:22 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]


I like this meme a lot.
 
2013-01-03 03:33:01 PM
The crowd that takes glamor shots of their guns, that puts "This house protected by Smith & Wesson" stickers on their front doors, that poses with small arsenals and posts those pictures in social media and who insist that open carry is the way to be safe....these are the people who are mewling and whinging that someone somewhere gave away the giant "secret" that they are gun owners?

Maybe they wanna think that through before they continue with their pointless kvetching?
 
2013-01-03 03:35:56 PM

david_gaithersburg: base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

.
I'm waiting for my speech permit.


When is your protest march?
 
2013-01-03 03:36:18 PM

Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.


I do to. I'd also hit that, but I'm allergic to dander and patchouli.
 
2013-01-03 03:36:48 PM

dittybopper: There *MAY* be some small percentage of people who have sold their guns, because they are too old, need the money, or whatever. They will be in the distinct minority, however.


Ok, or a woman was being threatened, she acquired the weapon, the threat abated and she tosses the weapon because she's uncomfortable without an immediate reason for having it.
 
2013-01-03 03:37:38 PM

Jim_Callahan: Begoggle: meintx2001: Would a newspaper mail themselves a suspicious white powder to create news? Surely not. I just wonder.

Which is more likely?
That a newspaper would do that, risking prison time for the people involved, or some nut would do it as revenge?

Well, the paper has already demonstrated that it's staffed by asshats with poor judgement and no regard for the safety of others and their property by publishing the list in the first place, so that sort of makes theories based on them continuing to have poor judgement and putting AWing over the welfare of others somewhat more credible.

//Publishing a list of any group's private addresses without their consent is an attempt at political intimidation at best, and honestly treating it as an implied threat of violence would not really be a mis-read of the situation, as demonstrated by the reaction of the asshats in question on the turnabout.

//Everyone involved in both sides of this shiat needs to be slapped with a fine for making public threats and told to STFU and GBTW.


But it wasn't political intimidation when it was done do sex offenders?

First they came for the sex offenders and I did not speak out because I was not a sex offender...
 
2013-01-03 03:39:48 PM

Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.


Would make more sense if people got their guns from someone who makes them in a sealed off room in his basement or a shack hidden in the woods.
 
2013-01-03 03:42:19 PM

Rich Cream: dittybopper: There *MAY* be some small percentage of people who have sold their guns, because they are too old, need the money, or whatever. They will be in the distinct minority, however.

Ok, or a woman was being threatened, she acquired the weapon, the threat abated and she tosses the weapon because she's uncomfortable without an immediate reason for having it.


Ah yes, the "because womenfolk are afraid of guns," scenario.
 
2013-01-03 03:43:46 PM
So, gun nuts are just nuts with guns. Whodathunkit?
 
2013-01-03 03:43:57 PM

Rich Cream: dittybopper: There *MAY* be some small percentage of people who have sold their guns, because they are too old, need the money, or whatever. They will be in the distinct minority, however.

Ok, or a woman was being threatened, she acquired the weapon, the threat abated and she tosses the weapon because she's uncomfortable without an immediate reason for having it.


I doubt this particular scenario. I know a couple of women who have gotten them for just such a reason, and it seems that the requirements, time, and effort that goes into getting one (aside from the cost of the pistol itself) makes them hold on to it.

You see, if you want to buy a handgun, you also have to get it registered on your pistol permit, which means you've got to schlepp your ass back to the pistol permit clerk in your county and get your permit amended. You also have to do this to *SELL* or otherwise dispose of your handguns. You aren't allowed to have any handgun that isn't on your permit, and you are required to actually *HAVE* the guns that are on it.

It's deliberately made to be a pain in the ass to minimize the number of people who own handguns.

A woman in that situation would likely just lock it up in a case and store it away in some out of the way place in their home, and perhaps throw out all the ammunition. Much less hassle, and if she ever feels threatened again, she can just buy more ammo.
 
2013-01-03 03:44:52 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]


Ahh, I see, the homeless ARE mentally ill.
 
2013-01-03 03:46:38 PM

Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.

Would make more sense if people got their guns from someone who makes them in a sealed off room in his basement or a shack hidden in the woods.


Or imported from another country even
 
2013-01-03 03:49:44 PM

Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.

Would make more sense if people got their guns from someone who makes them in a sealed off room in his basement or a shack hidden in the woods.


Both of these guns were made in my father's basement:

i54.tinypic.com

He's also made modern firearms. But then again, he's a craftsman. Still, it's not difficult to make a relatively crude but effective gun with some simple tools and available materials, and it's likely to get even easier in the near future. The days when you need to be a craftsman, or even just a bit handy, to make a gun are quickly coming to an end: Printable Firearms.
 
2013-01-03 03:50:52 PM

jaytkay: Where's the story here?

Legal gun owners are simply responding in their typical law-abiding, responsible, calm, and rational manner.


How do we know it was a gun owner?

Anyone could have found an address for one of the papers staff and done what they did with just a little research. Maybe someone had a beef with that homeowner which has nothing to do with this mess.

/If something happened to a gun owner who's address was posted, its the same defense the paper would have used.
 
2013-01-03 03:58:46 PM
MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.


The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.
 
2013-01-03 03:59:42 PM

dittybopper: I doubt this particular scenario.


Tell that to women going through a divorce or child custody hearings.
 
2013-01-03 04:01:47 PM
MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip: www.daybydaycartoon.com

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Holy Shiat! Thank you SO much for that link. AWESOME webcomic.


I do what I can, man.
 
2013-01-03 04:07:15 PM
Hey, where's all the smart-asses that told me they weren't being threatened?
 
2013-01-03 04:20:10 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


That's a very strange creative choice.
 
2013-01-03 04:20:18 PM

DoctorOfLove: But was it assault powder?


No, but it looked like assault powder.
Image is everything, eh?
 
2013-01-03 04:21:23 PM

moothemagiccow: Cdr.Murdock: Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.

Look up the definition for terrorism. Try somewhere other than CNN.

Go to a bank and hand the teller a note that says you have a gun. See how the police react when they discover you're unarmed. If you're right and this isn't terrorism, they'll laugh about it and send you home.


Um, that's a robbery.

The whole point being: If I mail myself a note with a "powdery white substance", or a news reporter mails himself / herself an envelope with a "powdery white substance" in it, it's not an act of terrorism.

You can't terrorize yourself. That was kinda my whole point. It may be fraud, risking a catastrophe, falsifying a police report, or maybe even mail fraud for all I know.

But, if a reporter mailed this to themselves to play the publicity whore. It's not terrorism.

Nice parting shot with the CNN comment, but I don't have cable TV. Sorry.....
 
2013-01-03 04:26:28 PM

Cdr.Murdock: moothemagiccow: Cdr.Murdock: Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.

Look up the definition for terrorism. Try somewhere other than CNN.

Go to a bank and hand the teller a note that says you have a gun. See how the police react when they discover you're unarmed. If you're right and this isn't terrorism, they'll laugh about it and send you home.

Um, that's a robbery.

The whole point being: If I mail myself a note with a "powdery white substance", or a news reporter mails himself / herself an envelope with a "powdery white substance" in it, it's not an act of terrorism.

You can't terrorize yourself. That was kinda my whole point. It may be fraud, risking a catastrophe, falsifying a police report, or maybe even mail fraud for all I know.

But, if a reporter mailed this to themselves to play the publicity whore. It's not terrorism.

Nice parting shot with the CNN comment, but I don't have cable TV. Sorry.....


Interesting question. If you mail yourself a white powder and intentionally ramp up publicity of it creating a climate of fear and intimidation, is it terrorism? How far is "I'll kill you if you don't agree with me" from "someone out there will kill you if you don't agree with me," anyway?
 
2013-01-03 04:31:26 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit

Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?


Yes, it is.  It just happens to be a permitted invasion because the gun permit law was carelessly written to make permit info public for any reason or none.

The  Journal News has issued one lame justification  for doing this:  "we think our readers may be interested."  That's not good enough.
 
2013-01-03 04:39:22 PM

ProfessorOhki: Interesting question. If you mail yourself a white powder and intentionally ramp up publicity of it creating a climate of fear and intimidation, is it terrorism? How far is "I'll kill you if you don't agree with me" from "someone out there will kill you if you don't agree with me," anyway?


Because you are creating public fear, wasting public resources like fire, rescue, police, etc.  There are procedures in place that require federal intervention and assistance, that is wasting more money and resources...
 
2013-01-03 04:41:59 PM
An employee had opened an envelope with the powder, Chong said.

Tommy?
 
2013-01-03 04:42:27 PM

ProfessorOhki: Rich Cream: dittybopper: There *MAY* be some small percentage of people who have sold their guns, because they are too old, need the money, or whatever. They will be in the distinct minority, however.

Ok, or a woman was being threatened, she acquired the weapon, the threat abated and she tosses the weapon because she's uncomfortable without an immediate reason for having it.

Ah yes, the "because womenfolk are afraid of guns," scenario.


Ah yes, the "anyone without a gun is terrified of guns" scenario
 
2013-01-03 04:43:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: TofuTheAlmighty: Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit

Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?

Yes, it is.  It just happens to be a permitted invasion because the gun permit law was carelessly written to make permit info public for any reason or none.

The  Journal News has issued one lame justification  for doing this:  "we think our readers may be interested."  That's not good enough.


Well, there are a few licence plates I would like to,,,
That is the logic used last week when we invoked registering dogs, cats, and cars, eh?
The goose and gander have no exclusive on fractured thinking masquerading as logic.
There is a real problem with collecting lists of law abiding citizens. You know that.
Why do you know that?
Because you feel safe in your castle?
 
2013-01-03 04:43:31 PM

BarkingUnicorn: TofuTheAlmighty: Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit

Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?

Yes, it is.  It just happens to be a permitted invasion because the gun permit law was carelessly written to make permit info public for any reason or none.

The  Journal News has issued one lame justification  for doing this:  "we think our readers may be interested."  That's not good enough.


Actually that is good enought. The information is Public they don't need any reason to release it. Info that is public can be published

Although I've always wondered if you could file for copyright and trademarks on yourself and abuse IP laws to prevent publishing of info about you
 
2013-01-03 04:46:05 PM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: The crowd that takes glamor shots of their guns, that puts "This house protected by Smith & Wesson" stickers on their front doors, that poses with small arsenals and posts those pictures in social media and who insist that open carry is the way to be safe....these are the people who are mewling and whinging that someone somewhere gave away the giant "secret" that they are gun owners?

Maybe they wanna think that through before they continue with their pointless kvetching?



It seems that you conflated a small subset of fanatic gun owners with ALL gun owners, but it's hard to believe you could be that stupid.
 
2013-01-03 04:52:26 PM

jaytkay: ProfessorOhki: Rich Cream: dittybopper: There *MAY* be some small percentage of people who have sold their guns, because they are too old, need the money, or whatever. They will be in the distinct minority, however.

Ok, or a woman was being threatened, she acquired the weapon, the threat abated and she tosses the weapon because she's uncomfortable without an immediate reason for having it.

Ah yes, the "because womenfolk are afraid of guns," scenario.

Ah yes, the "anyone without a gun is terrified of guns" scenario


That... doesn't make a damn bit of sense. They said that they HAD a gun and then became uncomfortable without there being a currently pending threat. Are you saying that they got rid of their guns because they were scared because they had no guns? Pretty sure that's a paradox - help me out here.
 
2013-01-03 04:54:10 PM

buckler: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.

That's a very strange creative choice.


When the going gets strange, the creative turn pro.

/paraphrased from another gun nut
 
2013-01-03 05:09:56 PM

downtownkid: Bill_Wick's_Friend: The crowd that takes glamor shots of their guns, that puts "This house protected by Smith & Wesson" stickers on their front doors, that poses with small arsenals and posts those pictures in social media and who insist that open carry is the way to be safe....these are the people who are mewling and whinging that someone somewhere gave away the giant "secret" that they are gun owners?

Maybe they wanna think that through before they continue with their pointless kvetching?


It seems that you conflated a small subset of fanatic gun owners with ALL gun owners, but it's hard to believe you could be that stupid.


You are mistaken: Bill_Wick's_Friend is actually that stupid.
 
2013-01-03 05:12:02 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.



I don't get it.  How is that funny?
 
2013-01-03 05:16:07 PM

FloydA: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


I don't get it.  How is that funny?


It's funny because you think right-leaning political comics should be funnier than Doonesbury.
 
2013-01-03 05:38:24 PM

MBooda: FloydA: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


I don't get it.  How is that funny?

It's funny because you think right-leaning political comics should be funnier than Doonesbury.


Well, comics should at least funnier than domestic violence and buying a gun.  Even Cathy and Family Circus are funnier than that.  The "lost" Garfield strip, where he's dying of starvation in an abandoned house was funnier than this.  Kidney stones are funnier than this.
 
2013-01-03 05:42:46 PM

FloydA: MBooda: FloydA: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


I don't get it.  How is that funny?

It's funny because you think right-leaning political comics should be funnier than Doonesbury.

Well, comics should at least funnier than domestic violence and buying a gun.


coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-03 05:54:06 PM

MBooda: FloydA: MBooda: FloydA: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


I don't get it.  How is that funny?

It's funny because you think right-leaning political comics should be funnier than Doonesbury.

Well, comics should at least funnier than domestic violence and buying a gun.

[coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com image 600x192]


I'm not getting your point.  What's funny about that?
 
2013-01-03 06:10:31 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-03 06:14:30 PM

Cdr.Murdock: moothemagiccow: Cdr.Murdock: Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.

Look up the definition for terrorism. Try somewhere other than CNN.

Go to a bank and hand the teller a note that says you have a gun. See how the police react when they discover you're unarmed. If you're right and this isn't terrorism, they'll laugh about it and send you home.

Um, that's a robbery.

The whole point being: If I mail myself a note with a "powdery white substance", or a news reporter mails himself / herself an envelope with a "powdery white substance" in it, it's not an act of terrorism.

You can't terrorize yourself. That was kinda my whole point. It may be fraud, risking a catastrophe, falsifying a police report, or maybe even mail fraud for all I know.

But, if a reporter mailed this to themselves to play the publicity whore. It's not terrorism.

Nice parting shot with the CNN comment, but I don't have cable TV. Sorry.....


How can you be so sure that they sent it to themselves? Is there something you're not telling us?

/people who are seriously considering that to be a possibility are the same people who should not own guns
 
2013-01-03 06:17:38 PM

MorePeasPlease: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x143]


OK, that's funny.
 
2013-01-03 07:20:40 PM

Warlordtrooper: BarkingUnicorn: TofuTheAlmighty: Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit

Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?

Yes, it is.  It just happens to be a permitted invasion because the gun permit law was carelessly written to make permit info public for any reason or none.

The  Journal News has issued one lame justification  for doing this:  "we think our readers may be interested."  That's not good enough.

Actually that is good enought. The information is Public they don't need any reason to release it. Info that is public can be published


Like I said, the gun permit law was written carelessly, without regard for legitimate privacy rights.  That will  be remedied soon enough, I think.
 
2013-01-03 07:45:53 PM

FloydA: [coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com image 600x192]

I'm not getting your point. What's funny about that?


It's funny because gun nuts resort to violence when people rightfully call them crazy, as evidenced by both the article and all the recent gun threads.
 
2013-01-03 07:55:35 PM

FloydA: MBooda: FloydA: MBooda: FloydA: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


I don't get it.  How is that funny?

It's funny because you think right-leaning political comics should be funnier than Doonesbury.

Well, comics should at least funnier than domestic violence and buying a gun.

[coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com image 600x192]

I'm not getting your point.  What's funny about that?


It's funny because it's a violation of Markely's Law.

Of course, that's not how it was *SUPPOSED* to be funny.
 
2013-01-03 08:05:11 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip:

[www.daybydaycartoon.com image 575x200]


I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who read it and went 'uh, I don't get it'. The doonesbury one was kinda funny, and I'm a left leaner.
 
2013-01-03 08:08:24 PM

James F. Campbell: FloydA: [coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com image 600x192]

I'm not getting your point. What's funny about that?

It's funny because gun nuts resort to violence when people rightfully call them crazy, as evidenced by both the article and all the recent gun threads.


If that were really true, why are Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Frank Lautenberg, Rosie O'Donnell, and the rest still alive?

I swear, if we were *HALF* as violent as people like you claim we are, everyone who calls for more gun control should have been killed many times over. And yet they aren't, because we aren't.
 
2013-01-03 08:09:17 PM

kroonermanblack: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who read it and went 'uh, I don't get it'. The doonesbury one was kinda funny, and I'm a left leaner.



Is it bad that I find the last panel hilarious, but not the first two?
 
2013-01-03 08:17:51 PM

MBooda: coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com


But this one's funny because Starbucks DOES tolerate people being rude. Buy a tall and sit there with your MacBook for 3 hrs? That's why it's [vaguely] funny: because it's ridiculous on the face of it.

Besides, if you want to go deeper, the Doonsbury paints both the whiners AND the gun owners with their respective stereotypes. On other hand, the DBD's punchline is literally, "I noticed something hypocritical" "liberals, am I right?"

/Doonsbury does have distinctively less cleavage though
//I guess it's up to the artist to know their strengths
 
2013-01-03 08:56:51 PM
See now this is why you don't mess with gun owners. A lot of those people are farking nuts.
 
2013-01-03 09:13:20 PM

Old enough to know better: See now this is why you don't mess with gun owners. A lot of those people are farking nuts.


Please remind me, how many people in this newspaper brouhaha have been shot by outraged gun owners? Because they are farking nuts who own guns so it stands to reason...
 
2013-01-03 09:24:45 PM

dittybopper: Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.

Would make more sense if people got their guns from someone who makes them in a sealed off room in his basement or a shack hidden in the woods.

Both of these guns were made in my father's basement:

[i54.tinypic.com image 638x256]

He's also made modern firearms. But then again, he's a craftsman. Still, it's not difficult to make a relatively crude but effective gun with some simple tools and available materials, and it's likely to get even easier in the near future. The days when you need to be a craftsman, or even just a bit handy, to make a gun are quickly coming to an end: Printable Firearms.


Hats off to your dad.  Those are works of art.
 
2013-01-03 09:28:30 PM

MorePeasPlease: Old enough to know better: See now this is why you don't mess with gun owners. A lot of those people are farking nuts.

Please remind me, how many people in this newspaper brouhaha have been shot by outraged gun owners? Because they are farking nuts who own guns so it stands to reason...


Backwards.

Let us know about all the gun massacres committed by people without guns.

Take your time. We'll wait.
 
2013-01-03 09:35:51 PM

jaytkay: Backwards.

Let us know about all the gun massacres committed by people without guns.

Take your time. We'll wait.



Thread/post topic relevant:

The newspaper staff that are in "dire danger" from enraged gun maniacs have been not-massacred by as many gun owners as non-gun owners.

Some BS powder was sent by one unbalanced asshole (probable a gun owner) who broke the law without using his gun to act out against the staff.
 
2013-01-03 09:48:49 PM

MorePeasPlease: jaytkay: Backwards.

Let us know about all the gun massacres committed by people without guns.

Take your time. We'll wait.


Thread/post topic relevant:

The newspaper staff that are in "dire danger" from enraged gun maniacs have been not-massacred by as many gun owners as non-gun owners.

Some BS powder was sent by one unbalanced asshole (probable a gun owner) who broke the law without using his gun to act out against the staff.


Still waiting. Keep trying.
 
2013-01-03 09:56:56 PM
This is for you.
cdn.cutestpaw.com
 
2013-01-03 11:04:14 PM

ProfessorOhki: moothemagiccow: Cdr.Murdock: Someone associated with said newspaper sends an "envelope full of domestic terrorism" as you called it, sweetie pie. Of course it turns out to be harmless.

Look up the definition for terrorism. Try somewhere other than CNN.

Go to a bank and hand the teller a note that says you have a gun. See how the police react when they discover you're unarmed. If you're right and this isn't terrorism, they'll laugh about it and send you home.

"The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." - While this is terrorism, your bank example is not.


The bank thing is an example of something physically harmless having criminal repercussions.
 
2013-01-03 11:07:10 PM

Electrify: How can you be so sure that they sent it to themselves?


How do you think gun owners get from "I have a gun" to "the government wants my gun, I need more guns" ?
 
2013-01-03 11:07:38 PM

ProfessorOhki: "The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." - While this is terrorism, your bank example is not.


It also means to instill terror.

terror

ter·ror
[ter-er] Show IPA
noun
1. intense, sharp, overmastering fear: to be frantic with terror.
2. an instance or cause of intense fear or anxiety; quality of causing terror: to be a terror to evildoers.
3. any period of frightful violence or bloodshed likened to the Reign of Terror in France.
4. violence or threats of violence used for intimidation or coercion; terrorism.
5. Informal. a person or thing that is especially annoying or unpleasant.
 
2013-01-03 11:13:35 PM

Jim_Callahan: //Publishing a list of any group's private addresses without their consent is an attempt at political intimidation at best, and honestly treating it as an implied threat of violence would not really be a mis-read of the situation, as demonstrated by the reaction of the asshats in question on the turnabout.


That kind of fits the above post with a definition of terrorism (which I disagree with):

"The use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims."
 
2013-01-03 11:28:52 PM

Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.

Would make more sense if people got their guns from someone who makes them in a sealed off room in his basement or a shack hidden in the woods.


Which is exactly what would happen if the legitimate supply was eliminated.

something something something Prohibition something something something .....
 
2013-01-03 11:30:07 PM

ghare: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

Ahh, I see, the homeless ARE mentally ill.


Ahh, I see that you got nuthin' except name calling. Are you 12?
 
2013-01-03 11:37:21 PM

dittybopper: Theaetetus: Endive Wombat: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: I'll just drop this here...

[i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I like this meme a lot.

Would make more sense if people got their guns from someone who makes them in a sealed off room in his basement or a shack hidden in the woods.

Both of these guns were made in my father's basement:

[i54.tinypic.com image 638x256]

He's also made modern firearms. But then again, he's a craftsman. Still, it's not difficult to make a relatively crude but effective gun with some simple tools and available materials, and it's likely to get even easier in the near future. The days when you need to be a craftsman, or even just a bit handy, to make a gun are quickly coming to an end: Printable Firearms.


Now THAT'S interesting. The firm sounds like a real-life version of The Weapon Shops of Isher. "The Right to Buy Weapons is the Right to be Free"
 
2013-01-03 11:45:17 PM

Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


Which brings up an interesting thought. When I first read that strip I had the same reaction, initially. "WTF? Doesn't relate to the other panels." Then I thought, "Aha! Maybe this is an old fashioned kind of comic, where there is continuity with prior strips." Yep, I was right. It's sad that the modern generation has been so brainwashed that they automatically think in short bytes of information and assume that all communication is therefore non-continuous.
 
2013-01-03 11:51:55 PM

Warlordtrooper: BarkingUnicorn: TofuTheAlmighty: Theaetetus: The proper response to that is an invasion of privacy suit

Collating and disseminating public records is an invasion of privacy?

Yes, it is.  It just happens to be a permitted invasion because the gun permit law was carelessly written to make permit info public for any reason or none.

The  Journal News has issued one lame justification  for doing this:  "we think our readers may be interested."  That's not good enough.

Actually that is good enought. The information is Public they don't need any reason to release it. Info that is public can be published

Although I've always wondered if you could file for copyright and trademarks on yourself and abuse IP laws to prevent publishing of info about you


God damn it, that is brilliant. Seriously. Crazy and not doable, probably, but nevertheless brilliant.
 
2013-01-03 11:53:13 PM

downtownkid: Bill_Wick's_Friend: The crowd that takes glamor shots of their guns, that puts "This house protected by Smith & Wesson" stickers on their front doors, that poses with small arsenals and posts those pictures in social media and who insist that open carry is the way to be safe....these are the people who are mewling and whinging that someone somewhere gave away the giant "secret" that they are gun owners?

Maybe they wanna think that through before they continue with their pointless kvetching?


It seems that you conflated a small subset of fanatic gun owners with ALL gun owners, but it's hard to believe you could be that stupid.


Hasty Generalization and Broken Context arguments from liberals? Naaaa, never happens.
 
2013-01-04 12:05:56 AM

FloydA: Loadmaster: MorePeasPlease: I thought it funny when someone questioned why the paper wasn't publishing the home addresses of the armed guards it hired.

Loadmaster: This was also mentioned in today's Day By Day comic strip

buckler: I don't even understand the punchline panel in context with the rest of the strip. Conservative "humor" strikes again.

The last panel is a reference to a previous strip, wherein Skye's abusive ex-boyfriend Karl threatened to come after her. That's why she bought a handgun in the first place, even though she's a liberal who opposes gun ownership.


I don't get it.  How is that funny?


It isn't necessarily funny. There were, at one time, many daily comics that were not funny in the least - and told an ongoing story. My grandmother read Rex Morgan M.D. every day for 60 years; it's the main reason she subscribed to the newspaper. How about Little Orphan Annie? That's the only two I can remember off the top of my head, but there are surely dozens, past and present.

Think of them as serialized graphic novels.
 
2013-01-04 12:09:56 AM

James F. Campbell: FloydA: [coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com image 600x192]

I'm not getting your point. What's funny about that?

It's funny because gun nuts resort to violence when people rightfully call them crazy, as evidenced by both the article and all the recent gun threads.


DRTFA. Is there actual evidence that the powder was sent by a "gun nut"?
 
2013-01-04 12:19:04 AM

jaytkay: MorePeasPlease: jaytkay: Backwards.

Let us know about all the gun massacres committed by people without guns.

Take your time. We'll wait.


Thread/post topic relevant:

The newspaper staff that are in "dire danger" from enraged gun maniacs have been not-massacred by as many gun owners as non-gun owners.

Some BS powder was sent by one unbalanced asshole (probable a gun owner) who broke the law without using his gun to act out against the staff.

Still waiting. Keep trying.


It's an obviously stupid question. The Venn circles have no intersection.
 
2013-01-04 04:13:47 AM

david_gaithersburg: HotWingConspiracy: The Voice of Doom: david_gaithersburg
base935: Haha, some citizens allow the government to grant them a permit for a gun.

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I'm waiting for my speech permit.

I thought the party of small government already introduced "Free Speech Zones" in the land of the brave and free?!

That was different because it was only targeting hippies.

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As a gun toting hippie it seems like I never get a break.


Hippies don't tote guns.
 
2013-01-04 04:20:34 AM

FloydA: studs up: (kill people)
how'd that drop out?

Accidentally.


Yup. The hole thing.
 
2013-01-04 12:12:34 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: James F. Campbell: FloydA: [coffeescholar.files.wordpress.com image 600x192]

I'm not getting your point. What's funny about that?

It's funny because gun nuts resort to violence when people rightfully call them crazy, as evidenced by both the article and all the recent gun threads.

DRTFA. Is there actual evidence that the powder was sent by a "gun nut"?


No, we be mass fearmongering here.
 
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