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(NBC News)   Senator Mark Kirk on his remarkable recovery from a near-fatal stroke: "I felt like there were three angels in the room. And, interestingly, they had New York accents"   (usnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 71
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2013-01-03 12:25:20 PM
And lo, the angel Feldstein spoke unto me, and he rendered a bill charging an ICD code which my insurance company mis-keyed as a hysterectomy; whereupon the voice of Yahweh saith: "Dr. Nguyen, please call admitting, Dr. Nguyen, admitting". And the voice was terminated with two clicks, ramen.
 
2013-01-03 12:46:42 PM
All angels are New Yorkers.

That statement doesn't work in reverse.
 
2013-01-03 01:05:29 PM
I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.
 
2013-01-03 02:10:35 PM
Yeah, he's pretty farked in the head.
 
2013-01-03 02:13:09 PM
Those weren't angels, they were Teamsters.
 
2013-01-03 02:13:37 PM
Angels in the Occipital Lobe?
 
2013-01-03 02:16:05 PM

Magorn: I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.


Dude he's from Illinois. Let's just be glad he's not headed to a Federal PMITA prison and leave it at that.
 
2013-01-03 02:17:07 PM
I had a near fatal stroke once....

/my hand slipped off, went past the tip and I smacked myself in the forehead.
//ba dah bing.
 
2013-01-03 02:17:38 PM

Klivian: Angels in the Occipital Lobe?


Something something Pinheads and Patriots
 
2013-01-03 02:17:47 PM
No Welsh?
 
2013-01-03 02:17:54 PM
These people are all too old to be running the country
 
2013-01-03 02:17:57 PM
So what. My room has four angles.
 
2013-01-03 02:19:03 PM
three angel room should be a shirt like three wolf moon.
 
2013-01-03 02:19:19 PM

MisterTweak: And lo, the angel Feldstein spoke unto me, and he rendered a bill charging an ICD code which my insurance company mis-keyed as a hysterectomy; whereupon the voice of Yahweh saith: "Dr. Nguyen, please call admitting, Dr. Nguyen, admitting". And the voice was terminated with two clicks, ramen.


IDC9 codes are diagnoses. CPT codes are procedures.

/knew that looked wrong
//hate coding
 
2013-01-03 02:19:43 PM

Magorn: I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.


Agreed - same with Giffords. Also, as I've unfortunately seen first hand, strokes - even TIAs - change people in significant ways. It very well may not be quite the same person you elected, and usually for the worse...
 
2013-01-03 02:23:11 PM
I ate a Taco Bell bean burrito last week... where's my Hero tag?

/DRFA
//lots of Hero tag abuse lately
 
2013-01-03 02:23:51 PM
No, it was just three overzealous medical internists.
 
2013-01-03 02:24:40 PM
So he got more religious as his brain began to shut down.

Makes sense.
 
2013-01-03 02:24:49 PM
Wasn't that one of those self gratifying 80's shows about angels with New York accents?
 
2013-01-03 02:25:16 PM

Magorn: I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.


Every state has a set of pre-established procedures, usually involving the governor appointing one, or not, at said governor's discretion. Sometimes, substitute the state congress for 'governor'.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:05 PM
Wow, a major stroke, three brain surgeries and months of rehabilitation. That must have cost a farking fortune.

But we should still voucherize Medicare and repeal ObamaCare that banned lifetime benefit caps, preexisting conditions and forced large corporations to provide insurance to their workers, right Mark? I can't think of a single reason why that might be bad.

Fark that guy. I'm glad he's better but I'm not glad he's back in the Senate.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:52 PM

lennavan: That must have cost a farking fortune.


Hah, no. It cost him surprisingly little.
 
2013-01-03 02:30:42 PM
He said the ordeal made him more religious.

"I felt like there were three angels in the room. And, interestingly, they had New York accents, probably because the last movie I'd seen was on Channel 11, was the original 'Ocean's 11,'" he said.

U.S. Sen. Mark Kirk speaks about his recovery from a major stroke a year ago at his home in Highland Park, Ill.
Kirk told the Chicago Daily Herald the angels asked him: "You want to come with us?"

He replied: "No, I'll hold off."

"They say there are no atheists in foxholes, and this stroke put me into a very deep foxhole," he told the newspaper.



Angels? Yeah, the word he's looking for is DOCTORS. The doctors who saved your life should be getting the credit, not some hallucinations your swollen brain coughed up and you idiotically are ascribing supernatural origins to while simultaneously admitting you know it was a dream.
 
2013-01-03 02:31:18 PM
Angel #1 :"Are you talkin' to me?"

Angel #2:"I got yer white light right here, buddy!"

Angel #3:"fuhgeddaboudit, the snapperhead said he ain't comin' wit us."
 
2013-01-03 02:34:22 PM

sxacho: Klivian: Angels in the Occipital Lobe?

Something something Pinheads and Patriots


You're trying to trick me, but I know the truth.  The Angels are in Anaheim, the Patriots are in Boston, and the Pinheads are in Congress.
 
2013-01-03 02:37:54 PM
Leave his soul. Take the cannoli.
 
2013-01-03 02:38:20 PM
FTA: The stroke, he said, did give him a new perspective on a major policy issue: health care. He said he still doesn't support Obamacare but knows many of his constituents don't have access to the top-flight medical treatment he received.

"On the Medicaid side, how we address citizens of Illinois who suffer from a stroke ... working so that my fellow citizens have the opportunities that I had," he said.


I find it very sad that it takes a massive stroke, a near-death experience, and extensive rehabilitation for a Republican US Senator to recognize and change his tune about American health care issues in the slightest.
 
2013-01-03 02:43:22 PM

mongbiohazard: He said the ordeal made him more religious.

"I felt like there were three angels in the room. And, interestingly, they had New York accents, probably because the last movie I'd seen was on Channel 11, was the original 'Ocean's 11,'" he said.

U.S. Sen. Mark Kirk speaks about his recovery from a major stroke a year ago at his home in Highland Park, Ill.
Kirk told the Chicago Daily Herald the angels asked him: "You want to come with us?"

He replied: "No, I'll hold off."

"They say there are no atheists in foxholes, and this stroke put me into a very deep foxhole," he told the newspaper.


Angels? Yeah, the word he's looking for is DOCTORS. The doctors who saved your life should be getting the credit, not some hallucinations your swollen brain coughed up and you idiotically are ascribing supernatural origins to while simultaneously admitting you know it was a dream.


Came here to say something like this. Of course this may mean there really is something to praying to Joe Pesci.

/okay, so he's from Jersey...close enough
 
2013-01-03 02:44:42 PM

Jim_Callahan: Magorn: I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.

Every state has a set of pre-established procedures, usually involving the governor appointing one, or not, at said governor's discretion. Sometimes, substitute the state congress for 'governor'.


Those procedures are for after the Senator/Representative leaves office or dies.  If they merely become incapacitated or ill, there's still no procedure for removing them.  The only thing the Senate can do is vote for explulsion.  There's no Constitutional procedure for temporarily or permanently replacing a member as there is with the President.  Hence Illinois has for all intents and purposes only been represented by one senator for the last year.
 
2013-01-03 02:48:45 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-03 02:49:29 PM
Three angels with New York accents?

www.threestooges.net
 
2013-01-03 02:49:51 PM
New York angels? Must have been a Heinlein heaven.
 
2013-01-03 02:50:32 PM
So the Three Wise Guys visited
 
2013-01-03 02:51:03 PM
yoism.reality-movement.org
 
2013-01-03 02:52:42 PM
so awesome he receives federal healthcare no other federal worker gets.
We should take what they say is best for us and be happy for it.

I look forward to watching him limp around
 
2013-01-03 02:58:40 PM

natas6.0: so awesome he receives federal healthcare no other federal worker gets.
We should take what they say is best for us and be happy for it.

I look forward to watching him limp around


That will make it easier for V'Ger to catch the Kirk unit.
 
2013-01-03 02:58:51 PM
He got his nice health care package that his fellow IL Sen. Durbin says we will all be getting but he had to stay in office for five years to get pension vested... so there is that.
 
2013-01-03 03:03:00 PM
I was in the stroke ward for three weeks in April. Left disappointed. Not one damned stroke the whole time.
 
2013-01-03 03:04:43 PM
Of course there's Joe Manchin in the photo with him, desperate for any amount of limelight he can obtain.
 
2013-01-03 03:05:01 PM
fc05.deviantart.net

Does not approve.
 
2013-01-03 03:08:25 PM

Jim_Callahan: Magorn: I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.

Every state has a set of pre-established procedures, usually involving the governor appointing one, or not, at said governor's discretion. Sometimes, substitute the state congress for 'governor'.


That's for dead ones, but what about ne who become too mentally ill/senile /etc to discharge thier duties (like Robert Byrd, Strom thurmond, Jim Bunning, Jesse Jr. etc?  Since Congress is the "Sole judge of the qualifications of its members"  they can't, at least to my knowledge be DQ'ed by a state law, meaning it would have to be a Constitutional Amendment or at least a federal law.
 
2013-01-03 03:09:42 PM

Magorn: I know Sen Kirk says he knows this was a dream, but isn't it time for us to have and equivalent of the 25th Amendment for Senators and Congressmen?  This is the second one from IL who is a poster-child for the obvious need for one.


if we eliminated every Congressman and Senator with faulty brains from office ....

/in case of zombie attack, hide out in capitol building. zombies won't bother to attack there due to lack of available BRAAAAAAAAINS.
 
2013-01-03 03:17:09 PM
As someone who had a stroke similar to Kirk's, though thankfully less devastating,I can say to him: congratulations on your journey so far and Godspeed in your further recovery.

As someone who had a stroke similar to Kirk's, but without platinum-plated public ally funded insurance, I can say to him: fark you for needing to have a major brain injury, permanent motor problems, and a year in rehab in order to understand the need for better heath care in this country.

Oh, and an extra fark you for still being against 'Obamacare.'
 
2013-01-03 03:21:18 PM
i2.listal.com
 
2013-01-03 03:23:54 PM

ITGreen: All angels are New Yorkers.

That statement doesn't work in reverse.


I thought all the Angels were in Anaheim.
 
2013-01-03 03:42:03 PM
It's now "The Los Angeles Angels of the City of Anaheim, Orange County."
 
2013-01-03 03:52:01 PM

mongbiohazard: He said the ordeal made him more religious.



That and when he woke up and heard about all the juicy SuperPAC money from religious Teahadists, he started scheming how to get him some of that sweet, sweet, Democracy Cash.
 
2013-01-03 04:11:05 PM
Stroke at 53! Yikes! That hits too close to home.
 
2013-01-03 04:12:51 PM

ITGreen: It's now "The Los Angeles Angels of the City of Anaheim, Orange County."


Typical of supernatural beings to not know where the fark they are.  Look at Moses; a trip of about 100 miles takes him 40 years.
 
2013-01-03 04:21:57 PM
Brain damage leads to perception of a supernatural event?

smuglookingricharddawkins.jpg
 
2013-01-03 04:24:34 PM

Nightenstaff: I ate a Taco Bell bean burrito last week... where's my Hero tag?

/DRFA
//lots of Hero tag abuse lately


Whether or not you get a hero tag depends on how you do in a farting contest with Mr. Methane.
 
2013-01-03 04:44:35 PM

AirForceVet: FTA: The stroke, he said, did give him a new perspective on a major policy issue: health care. He said he still doesn't support Obamacare but knows many of his constituents don't have access to the top-flight medical treatment he received.

"On the Medicaid side, how we address citizens of Illinois who suffer from a stroke ... working so that my fellow citizens have the opportunities that I had," he said.

I find it very sad that it takes a massive stroke, a near-death experience, and extensive rehabilitation for a Republican US Senator to recognize and change his tune about American health care issues in the slightest.


This is the funniest (and sadly true) comment on Fark this year. I know 2013's still young, but this comment needed some love.
 
2013-01-03 05:05:08 PM

AirForceVet:
I find it very sad that it takes a massive stroke, a near-death experience, and extensive rehabilitation for a Republican US Senator to recognize and change his tune about American health care issues in the slightest.


came to say this.
 
2013-01-03 05:36:07 PM

mongbiohazard:
Angels? Yeah, the word he's looking for is DOCTORS. The doctors who saved your life should be getting the credit, not some hallucinations your swollen brain coughed up and you idiotically are ascribing supernatural origins to while simultaneously admitting you know it was a dream.


If you'd actually read the part of the article you quoted, you'd have noticed the angels were offering him a chance to die; they weren't there to save him.
 
2013-01-03 06:12:51 PM

ITGreen: It's now "The Los Angeles Angels of the City of Anaheim, Orange County."


I thought the full title was the, "Los Angeles, California Angels of Anaheim in Orange County and did we mention we were in California?"
 
2013-01-03 06:51:28 PM
They weren't New Yorkers. They were Jews.
/Elijah and Gabriel may have paid a visit
 
2013-01-03 07:29:06 PM
WHERE IS MARKKIRK'S WIFE???
 
2013-01-03 07:37:49 PM

VPI-NAVY: WHERE IS MARKKIRK'S WIFE???


There
 
2013-01-03 07:53:53 PM
I find it interesting that people think that seeing angels is a sign of the diminished mental capacity due to his stroke, but then somehow fail to make the connection that it may well also be this diminished mental capacity that lead to his starting to support ObamaCare.
 
2013-01-03 08:11:06 PM
Hero tag? Seriously?
 
2013-01-03 09:05:04 PM
Why is he a hero?

Like the guy above said "lots of hero tag abuse lately".
 
2013-01-03 10:31:16 PM

grinding_journalist: MisterTweak: And lo, the angel Feldstein spoke unto me, and he rendered a bill charging an ICD code which my insurance company mis-keyed as a hysterectomy; whereupon the voice of Yahweh saith: "Dr. Nguyen, please call admitting, Dr. Nguyen, admitting". And the voice was terminated with two clicks, ramen.

IDC9 codes are diagnoses. CPT codes are procedures.

/knew that looked wrong
//hate coding


Yeah, except in the United States, ICD also has procedures. Strange for an International Classification of Diseases, but there you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICD-10_Procedure_Coding_System
 
2013-01-03 10:57:58 PM

LordOfThePings: Yeah, except in the United States, ICD also has procedures. Strange for an International Classification of Diseases, but there you are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICD-10_Procedure_Coding_System


As a medical coder, I'm fairly familiar with ICD10. Since 10 isn't being used in the US yet (and won't be until 2014) I assumed they were talking about 9, which doesn't include procs; unless you're referring to a specific subspecialty of coding I'm untrained in. (I do vascular/endovascular coding, I don't have subspecialization beyond that.)

TBH though I'm really trying to get out of coding. It was sold to me as a $30-50/hr job that you can be self-employed in, work from home if you so choose, and will always have employment. What I've since come to understand is that it's just another bureaucratic "skim" on medical dollars that has the added benefit of insurance companies being able to deny legitimate claims because of coding errors.

That, and I'm the only male under the age of 40 in the state doing this work. This indicates to me that I'm in the wrong field.
 
2013-01-03 10:57:59 PM

Catlike Typist: mongbiohazard:
Angels? Yeah, the word he's looking for is DOCTORS. The doctors who saved your life should be getting the credit, not some hallucinations your swollen brain coughed up and you idiotically are ascribing supernatural origins to while simultaneously admitting you know it was a dream.

If you'd actually read the part of the article you quoted, you'd have noticed the angels were offering him a chance to die; they weren't there to save him.



I did actually read the part of the article I quoted which is how I know that "they" asked him what he wanted to do, and then he thinks that's what happened. Not that a bunch of doctors were standing over him while his brain was being borked working on him to save his life... He apparently didn't assume that was how his brain might have used/misinterpreted the available information as they hunched over him working - no it was ANGELS that came to him in a dream and asked if he wanted to stay or go.

Those angel, guys. Those are the guys! Right?
""They say there are no atheists in foxholes, and this stroke put me into a very deep foxhole," he told the newspaper."

Not more appreciative of doctors and the scientists who create new technologies to save people's lives, like his... More religious.

He's not even willing to make sure we have a system where all Americans are covered with private health care now, like Obamacare does. But yeah, he's more religious. AWESOME. That's exactly the kind of thinking we need writing our laws, right? Crafting public policy for 370 million people. That guy, right friggin' there.
 
2013-01-03 11:17:30 PM

grinding_journalist: As a medical coder, I'm fairly familiar with ICD10. Since 10 isn't being used in the US yet (and won't be until 2014) I assumed they were talking about 9, which doesn't include procs; unless you're referring to a specific subspecialty of coding I'm untrained in. (I do vascular/endovascular coding, I don't have subspecialization beyond that.)


The procs were there in ICD-9, as well. Couldn't find the parallel link for -9, but thought you might click through (it sounds like your interest level is low -- I don't blame you!).

Here's one... Link
 
2013-01-03 11:29:40 PM

Catlike Typist: mongbiohazard:
Angels? Yeah, the word he's looking for is DOCTORS. The doctors who saved your life should be getting the credit, not some hallucinations your swollen brain coughed up and you idiotically are ascribing supernatural origins to while simultaneously admitting you know it was a dream.

If you'd actually read the part of the article you quoted, you'd have noticed the angels were offering him a chance to die; they weren't there to save him.


Did you ever notice how in the Bible, when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?
aaronmritchey.com
I'm an angel. I kill firstborns while their mamas watch. I turn cities into salt. I even, when I feel like it, rip the souls from little girls, and from now till kingdom come, the only thing you can count on in your existence is never understanding why.
 
2013-01-04 01:33:35 AM

LordOfThePings: grinding_journalist: As a medical coder, I'm fairly familiar with ICD10. Since 10 isn't being used in the US yet (and won't be until 2014) I assumed they were talking about 9, which doesn't include procs; unless you're referring to a specific subspecialty of coding I'm untrained in. (I do vascular/endovascular coding, I don't have subspecialization beyond that.)

The procs were there in ICD-9, as well. Couldn't find the parallel link for -9, but thought you might click through (it sounds like your interest level is low -- I don't blame you!).

Here's one... Link


Ah, volume 3. Wasn't even thinking about it- I don't use them, and the hospitals I source work from don't either- until 10 drops, we're ICD9 vI+II, CPT, and HCSPS. In fact...I don't even think we went over them in my prep classes, as vIII wasn't on my certification exam.
 
2013-01-04 02:33:12 AM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Jersey...close enough


actually it's not far enough away
 
2013-01-04 02:59:55 AM

grinding_journalist: Ah, volume 3. Wasn't even thinking about it- I don't use them, and the hospitals I source work from don't either- until 10 drops, we're ICD9 vI+II, CPT, and HCSPS. In fact...I don't even think we went over them in my prep classes, as vIII wasn't on my certification exam.


Yep, had to support and test them from the IT side even though I never personally encountered anybody who cared about them.

Good luck finding an alternative. I've enjoyed a break from healthcare the last couple of years, though I'm still in IT.
 
2013-01-04 04:55:21 AM

ITGreen: All angels are New Yorkers.

That statement doesn't work in reverse.


FTFY. Unless you mean angels think everyplace outside heaven is a shiathole and don't have the time of day for you unless you're in real trouble.
 
2013-01-04 11:13:49 AM

cptjeff: ITGreen: It's now "The Los Angeles Angels of the City of Anaheim, Orange County."

I thought the full title was the, "Los Angeles, California Angels of Anaheim in Orange County and did we mention we were in California?"


Is that what it is now?  I lost track, thanks.
 
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