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2013-01-03 12:13:55 PM
Ah, the Halcyon days of youth!
 
2013-01-03 12:14:19 PM
It's unclear what the girls did online.

Porn. Duh.
 
2013-01-03 12:14:30 PM
Now they am bein' punished.
 
2013-01-03 12:15:05 PM
I am so thankful that as a child my parents knew far less about computers than I did.

"Turn that thing off" *turns off monitor* "That's a good lad"
 
2013-01-03 12:15:14 PM
their milkshakes bring all the cops to the yard
 
2013-01-03 12:15:54 PM
They sound like Valium Girls.

/drug me with a shake, I am so sure!
 
2013-01-03 12:17:35 PM
Have these virgins attempted suicide yet?
 
2013-01-03 12:18:01 PM

Jument: It's unclear what the girls did online.

Porn. Duh.


Paying bills?
 
2013-01-03 12:21:01 PM
I make sure my kids are busy on the internet so they won't see me using drugs, or something.
 
2013-01-03 12:23:20 PM
Hit Girl, is that you?
 
2013-01-03 12:24:42 PM
I'm sure the little darlings didn't mean any harm.
 
2013-01-03 12:25:27 PM
Need to update that sign on the side of my van....

"FREE INTERNETZ"
 
2013-01-03 12:26:16 PM
That's it, we need to ban sleeping pills.
 
2013-01-03 12:27:45 PM

tuxq: That's it, we need to ban sleeping pills

children.

FTFY
 
2013-01-03 12:27:53 PM
tuxq:

That's it, we need to ban sleeping pills.

No, we need to ban teenage girls.
 
2013-01-03 12:29:43 PM

The One True TheDavid: tuxq:

That's it, we need to ban sleeping pills.

No, we need to ban teenage girls.


I'm sorry but the solution to teenage girls is more teenage girls
 
2013-01-03 12:30:48 PM

Jument: It's unclear what the girls did online.

Porn. Duh.


Cam Girlz?
 
2013-01-03 12:34:25 PM
My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.
 
2013-01-03 12:34:28 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 12:36:05 PM
Their milkshakes make all the 'rents sleepin' hard.

And they're like, hey, daddy snores.

Damn right, you know daddy snores.
 
2013-01-03 12:36:21 PM
So, the parents are really controlling. The kids learn to be really 'drug your food' controlling. The parents involve the police (this is throwing away your parenting rights). I don't see a winner here, except whoever sold the drugs, and the drug testing kits. Invest now!
 
2013-01-03 12:36:49 PM
They called the cops on them? On one hand, if these 2 were regularly out of control, that might be the right reaction. But if they're just normal teenagers, seems like a bit of overkill. Of course, I'm assuming they drugged them with Lunesta or something similar.
 
2013-01-03 12:37:30 PM
The prosecutor:
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2013-01-03 12:41:49 PM
Was there  a duffel bag full of cash involved?
 
2013-01-03 12:43:53 PM
The rod hath been spared. Consequences and shiat.
 
2013-01-03 12:44:38 PM
It's not the internet's fault.
 
2013-01-03 12:45:32 PM

Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.


Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.
 
2013-01-03 12:46:10 PM
Maybe you should stop letting your daughters watch Deadly Women on Investigation Discovery, too.  It seems to give them ideas.
 
2013-01-03 12:46:57 PM
That must have been a fun night for the boys over at 4chan.
 
2013-01-03 12:48:57 PM
cache.io9.com

"This is outrageous! Such naughty, naughty vixens!"
 
2013-01-03 12:50:40 PM

Rhypskallion: So, the parents are really controlling. The kids learn to be really 'drug your food' controlling. The parents involve the police (this is throwing away your parenting rights).


This.

What kind of parent is it that thinks, "I fell alseep a little early last night....man oh man...my kids much have drugged me!"  I don't think any of them understand the concept of deescalation.
 
2013-01-03 12:51:50 PM

grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


Many many years ago I had to fix a friends computer who's kid figured out that the early versions of AOL did not have restrictions. So he would get a old cd, install that version of AOL and watch all the porn he could.
 
2013-01-03 12:57:57 PM
hmmm If I were to do this in my youth, I am fairly sure the police wouldn't be involved.


Father would put my ass through a wall

www.heshone.com
 
2013-01-03 01:00:24 PM
At least it wasnt the folgers switch. I would have noticed.
 
2013-01-03 01:03:39 PM
What's their Fark handle?
 
2013-01-03 01:04:24 PM
img.photobucket.com

Unimpressed.
 
2013-01-03 01:05:30 PM

worlddan: Rhypskallion: So, the parents are really controlling. The kids learn to be really 'drug your food' controlling. The parents involve the police (this is throwing away your parenting rights).

This.

What kind of parent is it that thinks, "I fell alseep a little early last night....man oh man...my kids much have drugged me!"  I don't think any of them understand the concept of deescalation.


You can tell the difference in between getting sleepy and being put to sleep via medication. With some drugs, such as lunesta and ambien you'll actually feel "drunk" have blurred vision, hallucinations, slurred speech etc if you aren't actively attempting to go to sleep. It's not like in the movies, you don't just slump over in your chair and wake up 8 hrs later. So yes, if I had that happen I would wake up going holy fark someone drugged me!
 
2013-01-03 01:06:00 PM

grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


The best way to deal with inappropriate material on the internet is to put your PC in a common living area when they are young and educate your children about right and wrong and the dangers to be found in public (stress that the internet is 'in public' in every sense) long before they are old enough to have their own devices and desire privacy. They can find a way around any block and subvert any monitoring you give them, but they can't go against a decent upbringing with good basic morality and common sense.

/this works for drugs, sexuality, and many other things as well.
//not the common living area part though
///that gets you sent to jail.
 
2013-01-03 01:08:29 PM

grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.



1. 2 wifi routers, one goes through a proxy and gets disabled when I say.

2. Done via the proxy.

3. I work in IT, not going to be a problem.
 
2013-01-03 01:15:15 PM

Atharaenea: They called the cops on them? On one hand, if these 2 were regularly out of control, that might be the right reaction. But if they're just normal teenagers, seems like a bit of overkill. Of course, I'm assuming they drugged them with Lunesta or something similar.


Your definition of 'normal teenagers' includes 'drugging their parents'?
 
2013-01-03 01:16:43 PM

grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


I plan on setting up logging and whatnot, but I also plan on not letting the kids know. I figure I was allowed free space to get into trouble, I will grant them the same. Also, since they may or maynot figure out I'm watching, they are less likely to cover their tracks. So that I can keep watching, so if I think they are getting over their head, I can step in.
 
2013-01-03 01:17:13 PM
Dear penthouse...
 
2013-01-03 01:17:24 PM
It's unclear what the girls did online.

t1.gstatic.com

Fish for items from their Amazon wishlists?
 
2013-01-03 01:20:20 PM
img839.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-03 01:23:20 PM

grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


You have a kid on the way, and your discussing now what to do 5-7 years down the road?
Dude, by that time kids will have WiFi implants in their brains and they will know how to use it better than you because you will be old.
 
2013-01-03 01:30:50 PM

jst3p: It's unclear what the girls did online.

[t1.gstatic.com image 243x207]

Fish for items from their Amazon wishlists?


There's a blast from the relatively recent past.
 
2013-01-03 01:31:27 PM

grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


Or you could just TALK to your children. That's what we do. They know that if they're looking at anything I might deem inappropriate, they need to ask me or stop looking at it. And we always have had the kids' computer in the living room (not in the bedroom until they're older and have proven themselves). So from time to time, I hear the boys (9 & 11) on the computer and one will say to the other, "I don't think this is appropriate," and they move on to something else.

I'm all for accountability. But maybe talking to your kids about some of the stuff that's out there and WHY it's inappropriate would be a good idea.
 
2013-01-03 01:34:04 PM

Uniquely Common: You can tell the difference in between getting sleepy and being put to sleep via medication. With some drugs, such as lunesta and ambien you'll actually feel "drunk" have blurred vision, hallucinations, slurred speech etc if you aren't actively attempting to go to sleep. It's not like in the movies, you don't just slump over in your chair and wake up 8 hrs later.


No indeed. For that you'd need a mickey. Darn kids must have slipped 'em some mickeys, is what. Maybe socked 'em with the brass knuckles while they were at it. Might have slapped 'em with a black-jack too.
 
2013-01-03 01:35:21 PM
In the good ol days these future welfare recipients would have feared the impending ass beating enough that this would have never crossed their minds.
 
2013-01-03 01:36:46 PM

worlddan: Rhypskallion: So, the parents are really controlling. The kids learn to be really 'drug your food' controlling. The parents involve the police (this is throwing away your parenting rights).

This.

What kind of parent is it that thinks, "I fell alseep a little early last night....man oh man...my kids much have drugged me!"  I don't think any of them understand the concept of deescalation.


You apparently don't understand the concept of teaching children the consequences of serious actions. Please do not breed soon, as I don't think you're fit to be a parent just yet.
 
2013-01-03 01:44:35 PM

worlddan: Rhypskallion: So, the parents are really controlling. The kids learn to be really 'drug your food' controlling. The parents involve the police (this is throwing away your parenting rights).

This.

What kind of parent is it that thinks, "I fell alseep a little early last night....man oh man...my kids much have drugged me!"  I don't think any of them understand the concept of deescalation.


If you can't tell the difference between falling asleep and being drugged, then you're an idiot.
 
2013-01-03 01:44:54 PM
It seems to me that between this and the Steubenville thing, it's "teenagers who need to be euthanized" day on the internet.
 
2013-01-03 01:46:40 PM

Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.


I am so going to do that :)

PS no computers or TV's in bedrooms goes a LONG way.
 
2013-01-03 01:47:13 PM
We have a router that allows you to block access before / after a certain time by machine. This is great for blocking access immediately after school so they can get homework done and late at night. My 15 and 12 yr olds have their own computers in an "office" that's open to the main living area. They sit side by side, so they police each other more than we do.

I can't say they've never gotten into anything inappropriate, but really they don't much. I think. I've always said, though, that once they find their way around the restrictions, they're old enough not to really need them. Well, within reason...
 
2013-01-03 01:58:55 PM

blatz514: Jument: It's unclear what the girls did online.

Porn. Duh.

Paying bills?


They were FARKing, give them a break.
 
2013-01-03 02:03:33 PM
Without going into unnecessary detail, I consider myself lucky that something like this, or worse, never happened to me.
 
2013-01-03 02:13:56 PM

jst3p: grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


1. 2 wifi routers, one goes through a proxy and gets disabled when I say.

2. Done via the proxy.

3. I work in IT, not going to be a problem.


this may work till middle school or high school then at that time your kid(s) will learn form someone in school how to bypass what you have setup. when i was in school you hear it all the time. Kids asking the nerds/geeks in school how to bypass what ever their parents had for blocks on the computer or such.

I don't mean to say you can't stop your kids. But be ready to have to change how you do every couple weeks or so.
 
2013-01-03 02:15:11 PM

carrion_luggage: Ah, the Halcyon days of youth!


Am I the only one that sees what you did there?

users8.jabry.com
 
2013-01-03 02:15:29 PM
These girls were 15 and 16. In my book that's old enough to be using the web unsupervised. Teach them about Tor, public key encryption, how to chain anonymous remailers (are those still around?), Firefox add-ons that disable trackers, etc. etc.

The stipulations should be obvious: no death threats, no stupidity (like bragging about illegal shiat on Facebook), no "sexting" or "camming" with anybody old enough to get in trouble for it, and so on. Getting caught by their parents should mean their computer goes to a charity and they can buy their own electronics from then on; getting busted doing stuff like this should means they'll have to use a Public Defender and might wind up in juvie jail.

Don't baby your teenagers, overprotect them or smother them with restrictions. Teach them how to be smart instead.
 
2013-01-03 02:17:24 PM
thelithiumrobot.com
 
2013-01-03 02:19:29 PM

MadMonk: That must have been a fun night for the boys over at 4chan.


I think Mark Zuckerburg would find that funny.
 
2013-01-03 02:25:34 PM

The One True TheDavid: These girls were 15 and 16. In my book that's old enough to be using the web unsupervised. Teach them about Tor, public key encryption, how to chain anonymous remailers (are those still around?), Firefox add-ons that disable trackers, etc. etc.

The stipulations should be obvious: no death threats, no stupidity (like bragging about illegal shiat on Facebook), no "sexting" or "camming" with anybody old enough to get in trouble for it, and so on. Getting caught by their parents should mean their computer goes to a charity and they can buy their own electronics from then on; getting busted doing stuff like this should means they'll have to use a Public Defender and might wind up in juvie jail.

Don't baby your teenagers, overprotect them or smother them with restrictions. Teach them how to be smart instead.


In theory I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how many 15- and 16-year-olds you've been in contact with.  The odds are fairly high that one or more of these will be in play:

1. They're just not that bright.  Not everybody is cut out to understand the things you mention.  Some are barely bright enough to understand how to text.
2. They're lazy.  What you're suggesting will sound like work.  The alternative is to just do whatever you feel like, and when the computer is totally infected, complain to mom and dad.
3. They consider anything and everything said by anybody over the age of 19 to be, like, totally, completely, like, gag-me-with-a-spoon stupid, and so like, I'm so totally sure I'm gonna do what you say, I mean, I'm like, if you say I should do something, then like, that's exactly what I won't do.
4. So-and-so said that he did such-and-such and nothing bad happened, so it's totally OK.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:42 PM

Kibbler: but I'm not sure how many 15- and 16-year-olds you've been in contact with.


Oh I've been in contact, yes sir, I have been in contact
 
2013-01-03 02:32:28 PM
Seems like a even trade. I bet they were put to sleep with "cough syrup" when they toddlers.
 
2013-01-03 02:34:59 PM
I have a TRS-80 Model I waiting if I have kids, If they can get that thing on the Internet, they're free to browse anything they want on it.
 
2013-01-03 02:58:10 PM

Kibbler: The One True TheDavid:

These girls were 15 and 16. In my book that's old enough to be using the web unsupervised. Teach them about Tor, public key encryption, how to chain anonymous remailers (are those still around?), Firefox add-ons that disable trackers, etc. etc.

The stipulations should be obvious: no death threats, no stupidity (like bragging about illegal shiat on Facebook), no "sexting" or "camming" with anybody old enough to get in trouble for it, and so on. Getting caught by their parents should mean their computer goes to a charity and they can buy their own electronics from then on; getting busted doing stuff like this should means they'll have to use a Public Defender and might wind up in juvie jail.

Don't baby your teenagers, overprotect them or smother them with restrictions. Teach them how to be smart instead.

In theory I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how many 15- and 16-year-olds you've been in contact with.  The odds are fairly high that one or more of these will be in play:

[snips]

1. They're just not that bright. ...

2. They're lazy.  What you're suggesting will sound like work....

3. They consider anything and everything said by anybody over the age of 19 to be, like, totally, completely, like, gag-me-with-a-spoon stupid...

4. So-and-so said that he did such-and-such and nothing bad happened, so it's totally OK.


Then like I said if they get caught by the 'rents they'll lose their computer (and iPad, iPhone, whatever) and if they get busted they might get locked up till they turn 18. Tough for them.

Other obvious lessons would be don't hang around corners or in the mall carrying drugs or illegal weapons, don't stick up the convenience store around the corner from home, and so on. And of course I'd make sure they learned about safer sex & birth control and make sure they had what they needed to keep from getting diseased and pregnant. If they want to learn how to deal drugs or stick up stores they'll have to go elsewhere; my interest is in avoiding obvious mistakes, like the silly lawbreaking that we hear about in the news & on Fark. ("There's snow on the ground. Snow leaves tracks of your boots. What does that tell you not to do?")

If you've raised your kids right they'll know better than to do stupid shiat they can't get away with. That's 9/10 of the problem right there. And if they do it anyway, that's their problem.
 
2013-01-03 03:15:45 PM

Kibbler: In theory I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how many 15- and 16-year-olds you've been in contact with.  The odds are fairly high that one or more of these will be in play:

1. They're just not that bright.  Not everybody is cut out to understand the things you mention.  Some are barely bright enough to understand how to text.
2. They're lazy.  What you're suggesting will sound like work.  The alternative is to just do whatever you feel like, and when the computer is totally infected, complain to mom and dad.
3. They consider anything and everything said by anybody over the age of 19 to be, like, totally, completely, like, gag-me-with-a-spoon stupid, and so like, I'm so totally sure I'm gonna do what you say, I mean, I'm like, if you say I should do something, then like, that's exactly what I won't do.
4. So-and-so said that he did such-and-such and nothing bad happened, so it's totally OK.


1. :Like father/mother, like son/daughter. If the parents sit around watching Honey Boo-Boo every night, odds are the kids aren't going to be intellectual giants either. Talk to your kids, interact with your kids, teach your kids something more than how to stare at a glowing box like a brain-dead zombie and this problem can be averted.

2. :Sounds like lazy parents. What's the first question a kid asks his parents, or at least thinks to themself, when told to do something? Why. Teach your kids the value of doing something and they won't ask why, they'll ask how.

3. :Only when those authority figures have presented themselves in a way that serves to be obstructionistic to any of their impulses. Give your kids a reason to respect you and they might just listen to a little more of what you have to say.

4. :Then challenge them on it. Ask them to show proof of their claims. You cannot force someone to believe something, but you can cause them to take actions that lead to them coming to a belief on their own.
 
2013-01-03 03:16:05 PM

carrion_luggage: Ah, the Halcyon days of youth!


Couple of real junior spies: parents are shaken, but not stirring.
 
2013-01-03 03:16:27 PM
Asshole kids have asshole parents. Whodathunkit.
 
2013-01-03 03:29:11 PM
SERIOUSLY? You didn't just wait till your parents went to sleep (naturally) and then get on the internet?

This Xmas my dad finally brought up an issue that had been on his mind for awhile, when I was in high school he came outside and found the screen from my bedroom window in the backyard. Apparently he thought I snuck out to meet boys. The truth was that one day I opened the window to get a breeze and it just fell out...no such illicit meetings. He seemed relieved when I told him the truth, but I was just pissed that I didn't think of doing that.
 
2013-01-03 03:29:32 PM
what a difference between this and yesterday's thread where the Mother gave the 12yo son an 18 point list to go with his iphone. She was trying to raise him right, to the best of her ability, made some good points and some bad ones. She was talking to him,making sure he needed to know how to avoid doing stupid shiat...
and everyone in the thread jumped on her for being a controlling mom and a mommy blogger
 
2013-01-03 03:39:25 PM

jumac: jst3p: grinding_journalist: Ksilebo: My method was installing a keylogger on the family computer. Still one of our favorite family stories.

Been discussing it with folks since I have a kid on the way; the best solution I've come up with is:

1. Rotating PW for house wifi.
2. Tell the kids that they can search for what they want, but I'll have monitoring software that tells me. If they get into things that they shouldn't, there will be consequences. Have to make them accountable for their own farkups.
3. Acknowledge that my kids will probably be smarter than me, and figure out ways around said restrictions.


1. 2 wifi routers, one goes through a proxy and gets disabled when I say.

2. Done via the proxy.

3. I work in IT, not going to be a problem.

this may work till middle school or high school then at that time your kid(s) will learn form someone in school how to bypass what you have setup. when i was in school you hear it all the time. Kids asking the nerds/geeks in school how to bypass what ever their parents had for blocks on the computer or such.

I don't mean to say you can't stop your kids. But be ready to have to change how you do every couple weeks or so.


I take the power cord with me. My teenager really can't' do without it.
 
2013-01-03 03:51:18 PM
I'm going to go ahead and guess that if these idiots DRUGGED the girl's parents just to get on the damn Internets that there is more going on here.
The Internet curfew is likely in place for a good reason, probably the same reason they called the police - sounds like a very troubled girl and her friend. I knew people like this in highschool and in a lot of cases their parents were doing the best they could...the kids were just pyscho.
 
2013-01-03 04:11:15 PM

Cheron: The One True TheDavid: tuxq:

That's it, we need to ban sleeping pills.

No, we need to ban teenage girls.

I'm sorry but the solution to teenage girls is more teenage girls


Best comment exchange of 2013 to date. Thank goodness myan doomsday was postponed.
 
2013-01-03 04:16:37 PM

Jument: It's unclear what the girls did online.

Porn. Duh.


Uploaded webcam images to www.poseyourpilledparents.xxx
 
2013-01-03 04:16:44 PM
t's unclear what the girls did online


no one knows how to look up history? The girls don't seem smart enough to cover their tracks
 
2013-01-03 04:20:45 PM
And where did they get the evil beverages?

Miss-Stake & Shake.
(Skinny fries, for skinny thighs!!!)
 
2013-01-03 04:45:15 PM

ltdanman44: hmmm If I were to do this in my youth, I am fairly sure the police wouldn't be involved.


Father would put my ass through a wall

[www.heshone.com image 400x300]


Damn you have a huge ass
 
2013-01-03 07:02:27 PM

StrangeQ: Kibbler: In theory I don't disagree with you, but I'm not sure how many 15- and 16-year-olds you've been in contact with.  The odds are fairly high that one or more of these will be in play:

1. They're just not that bright.  Not everybody is cut out to understand the things you mention.  Some are barely bright enough to understand how to text.
2. They're lazy.  What you're suggesting will sound like work.  The alternative is to just do whatever you feel like, and when the computer is totally infected, complain to mom and dad.
3. They consider anything and everything said by anybody over the age of 19 to be, like, totally, completely, like, gag-me-with-a-spoon stupid, and so like, I'm so totally sure I'm gonna do what you say, I mean, I'm like, if you say I should do something, then like, that's exactly what I won't do.
4. So-and-so said that he did such-and-such and nothing bad happened, so it's totally OK.

1. :Like father/mother, like son/daughter. If the parents sit around watching Honey Boo-Boo every night, odds are the kids aren't going to be intellectual giants either. Talk to your kids, interact with your kids, teach your kids something more than how to stare at a glowing box like a brain-dead zombie and this problem can be averted.

2. :Sounds like lazy parents. What's the first question a kid asks his parents, or at least thinks to themself, when told to do something? Why. Teach your kids the value of doing something and they won't ask why, they'll ask how.

3. :Only when those authority figures have presented themselves in a way that serves to be obstructionistic to any of their impulses. Give your kids a reason to respect you and they might just listen to a little more of what you have to say.

4. :Then challenge them on it. Ask them to show proof of their claims. You cannot force someone to believe something, but you can cause them to take actions that lead to them coming to a belief on their own.


Thanks for the lecture.  You sound like you've raised kids all the way into their 20s and have learned everything there is to know, or maybe knew it in the first place.

First point is, I watch about 2 hours of TV a week.  Most nights I'm either reading, or studying (IT), or playing guitar, or painting...something.

Second point is, I did everything imaginable to get them....

Aw fark it.  Why am I trying to enlighten someone who already has ultimate wisdom.  Good for you, man.  Good for you.  And shame on me.  Why you people allow a shiatty parent like me to even post here I can't imagine.
 
2013-01-03 09:51:13 PM
Why would the milkshake want to use the internet?
 
2013-01-04 10:21:06 AM

sandi_fish: I take the power cord with me. My teenager really can't' do without it.


Yeah, they will never figure out how to get a spare one of those.
 
2013-01-04 04:22:41 PM

dmars: sandi_fish: I take the power cord with me. My teenager really can't' do without it.

Yeah, they will never figure out how to get a spare one of those.


She does not have money or transportation to buy one.
 
2013-01-04 05:43:04 PM

sandi_fish: dmars: sandi_fish: I take the power cord with me. My teenager really can't' do without it.

Yeah, they will never figure out how to get a spare one of those.

She does not have money or transportation to buy one.


Oh, its a girl never mind then. I am not saying she couldn't figure it out, but if I had to guess, the drive for internet porn(the basis for most teens to circumvent the system) would be more male dominated and little things like transportation(um, order it online) and money(no gift cards for christmans?) are not enough to stop them.
 
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