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2013-01-03 10:28:19 AM
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2013-01-03 10:31:22 AM
That's just a shiatty comparison, not a false equivalence.
 
2013-01-03 10:33:41 AM
this is more a critique of the FBI's data than anything else, but what is the value of breaking out gun murders by handgun/rifle/shotgun if a full 20% of the total falls in "unspecified gun type?"
 
2013-01-03 10:38:53 AM
is it freeper friday already?
 
2013-01-03 10:41:21 AM

LRA61380: That's just a shiatty comparison, not a false equivalence.


Its also a strawman because he's actually selectively comparing deaths with rifles, and I don't think I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.
 
2013-01-03 10:47:03 AM

gilgigamesh: I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.


It's a vary specific point/argument to counter any proposed "assault rifle" ban.
 
2013-01-03 10:48:50 AM

Rustico: gilgigamesh: I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.

It's a vary specific point/argument to counter any proposed "assault rifle" ban.


i don't think the argument has ever been that "all murders are committed with assault rifles" though. it's addressing an argument that doesn't exist.
 
2013-01-03 10:50:14 AM
More people die of old age than nuclear weapons.
 
2013-01-03 10:50:34 AM

thomps: it's addressing an argument that doesn't exist.


a hallmark of the rabid right.
 
2013-01-03 10:53:49 AM

thomps: Rustico: gilgigamesh: I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.

It's a vary specific point/argument to counter any proposed "assault rifle" ban.

i don't think the argument has ever been that "all murders are committed with assault rifles" though. it's addressing an argument that doesn't exist.


Nor has the argument ever been "all murders are committed with guns."  In a similar vein, not a single person was saying that armed guards in schools would stop school shootings before Wayne LaPierre dropped that deuce.
 
2013-01-03 11:01:14 AM
Was it just me, or did the author have some serious subject-verb-tense agreement issues? Maybe a sign of the cognitive dissonance that resonated throughout that "op-ed"?

I appreciate their wholehearted support for instead banning handguns...
 
2013-01-03 11:03:38 AM

FlashHarry: is it freeper friday already?


There does appear to have been an uptick in the whine industry today
 
2013-01-03 11:15:40 AM
Just like a hammer, the primary use and function of an assault rifle is to kill people.
 
2013-01-03 11:16:13 AM

gilgigamesh: LRA61380: That's just a shiatty comparison, not a false equivalence.

Its also a strawman because he's actually selectively comparing deaths with rifles, and I don't think I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.


Talk to the Illinois legislature.
 
hej
2013-01-03 11:16:17 AM

St_Francis_P: [cdn103.iofferphoto.com image 582x817]


Pack it up boys, this thread is done.
 
2013-01-03 11:17:15 AM
In other news, rape is more responsible for suicides than low test scores.

Ban women.
 
2013-01-03 11:17:41 AM
Houses are built with guns all the time.

www.1976ad.com
 
2013-01-03 11:18:14 AM
Well that solved it. We should arm our troops and law enforcement officers with hammers instead of guns.
 
2013-01-03 11:18:49 AM
"Whaaaaaa! The brilliant logic I use in my own clever posts has been used against my position this time! No fair! It's stuuupid!"
 
2013-01-03 11:19:15 AM

Chummer45: Just like a hammer, the primary use and function of an assault rifle is to kill people.


I guess thats why the police call their ar-15s "patrol rifles"

I call mine a chalkboard because its really gonna fark with the CDC and FBI stats if I ever use it to defend my air jordans.
 
2013-01-03 11:19:25 AM
I have a hammer that uses .22 caliber ammunition.

www.pacoa.com

/Blanks, but still...
 
2013-01-03 11:19:41 AM
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2013-01-03 11:19:46 AM

genner: Houses are built with guns all the time.

[www.1976ad.com image 692x764]


"Man, fark a charge, this here's a gun powder activated, 27 caliber, full auto, no kickback, nail-throwing mayhem man. shiat right here's tight."
 
2013-01-03 11:20:19 AM
"Hammer" has put to death many people.

images.wikia.com
 
2013-01-03 11:20:52 AM
I'm not clicking that link. Someone wanna summarize the nonsense contained?
 
2013-01-03 11:21:30 AM
banhammer
 
2013-01-03 11:21:41 AM
Rifles? Okay gun-strokers, keep you rifles. They'll come in handy during the Red Dawn.

About those handguns...
 
2013-01-03 11:21:48 AM
Notice how rifles became guns in subbys title?
 
2013-01-03 11:21:52 AM
nobody tell North Korea about this. they'll trade their rifles for hammers and then their army will then be unstoppable!
 
2013-01-03 11:22:31 AM

Fart_Machine: Well that solved it. We should arm our troops and law enforcement officers with hammers instead of guns.


I think we're done here.
 
2013-01-03 11:22:32 AM
The US has a higher murder rate with knives than the UK, too.  We just like murder.
 
2013-01-03 11:22:34 AM

FlashHarry: thomps: it's addressing an argument that doesn't exist.

a hallmark of the rabid right.


Unlike real liberals there's roughly a 50/50 chance a righty will win an argument with a strawman. They're just playing the odds.
 
2013-01-03 11:22:35 AM

bartink: I'm not clicking that link. Someone wanna summarize the nonsense contained?


Rather than a well-reasoned article, they went with Dana Loesch nude ascii art, and somehow managed to slip in some derp into the narrative right around her pubic area.
 
2013-01-03 11:22:54 AM
Tecnically guns have hammers and its what makes them work.
 
2013-01-03 11:23:05 AM
More people die of bad teeth than public masturbation.
 
2013-01-03 11:23:38 AM

thomps: Rustico: gilgigamesh: I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.

It's a vary specific point/argument to counter any proposed "assault rifle" ban.

i don't think the argument has ever been that "all murders are committed with assault rifles" though. it's addressing an argument that doesn't exist.


Could we stop with the defining of terms and just get down to name-calling and other insults.
 
2013-01-03 11:24:06 AM
And here we go again with a bunch of anti-gun crap.
 
2013-01-03 11:24:26 AM
Goddammit, subby, learn the difference between a rifle and a gun. Also, seriously, a greenlit Breitbart link?

i.ytimg.com
 
2013-01-03 11:24:27 AM
Ban Assault Hammers!
 
2013-01-03 11:25:12 AM
Nail guns? Framing hammers? Silver hammers? Sledge hammers? I need specifics before I can get my outrage on.
 
2013-01-03 11:25:59 AM
99.6 of "Poor" Household have refrigerators. A lot of poor people murder other people because they are desperate and poor.

Has anyone seen statistics on how many refrigerators have been used to murder someone? I mean, we all know they can save a life in the event of a nuclear blast, but how many times have they been commissioned in a homicide? I bet those poors are killing up a storm with frigs.
 
2013-01-03 11:25:59 AM

Bloody Templar: I have a hammer that uses .22 caliber ammunition.



/Blanks, but still...


Yeah, I've got one of those, too. Lots of fun, and just the thing if you need to affix wood to concrete, but as I was using it I was terrified that someone would call the cops on me.
 
2013-01-03 11:25:59 AM
But the UK's gun crime went up 100% in some select years after they banned guns.

The US' is only 4000% higher than that.
 
2013-01-03 11:26:20 AM
Also, more people in the US died in meat processing accidents than with fully automatic M-16s. Thererfore, canned ham and hot dogs should be banned and confiscated and the M-16 should be made availabe to all patriotic American patriots.
 
2013-01-03 11:26:29 AM

drewsclues: genner: Houses are built with guns all the time.

[www.1976ad.com image 692x764]

"Man, fark a charge, this here's a gun powder activated, 27 caliber, full auto, no kickback, nail-throwing mayhem man. shiat right here's tight."


You earned that bump like a motherfarker.
 
2013-01-03 11:26:39 AM

coeyagi: 99.6 percent of "Poor" Household have refrigerators. A lot of poor people murder other people because they are desperate and poor.

Has anyone seen statistics on how many refrigerators have been used to murder someone? I mean, we all know they can save a life in the event of a nuclear blast, but how many times have they been commissioned in a homicide? I bet those poors are killing up a storm with frigs.


FTFM
 
2013-01-03 11:26:51 AM
Yes, but how many hammers have killed 20 6 year olds in less then two hours?
 
2013-01-03 11:26:52 AM
Banned:

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2013-01-03 11:26:52 AM

St_Francis_P: [cdn103.iofferphoto.com image 582x817]


STOP! RIFLE TIME!!!
 
2013-01-03 11:27:22 AM

gilgigamesh: LRA61380: That's just a shiatty comparison, not a false equivalence.

Its also a strawman because he's actually selectively comparing deaths with rifles, and I don't think I've heard anyone actually suggest rifles should be banned.


Umm, not paying attention are we? AR-15's are rifles, as are semi-auto AK-47's, and both would be banned under any assault weapons ban that had any teeth at all.
 
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