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(The Newspaper)   Class action suit against illegal red light cameras ends in usual fashion: corporation is happy, lawyers are happy, victims get $6 if they fill out the paperwork correctly   (thenewspaper.com) divider line 4
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2013-01-03 10:50:04 AM
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Victims? You mean those killed by red light runners? I don't think they will do any paperwork.
2013-01-03 11:53:58 AM
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Carn: machoprogrammer: Carn: Instead of my normal screed about red light cameras or linking to the article that says that surveys show that many yellows in problem intersections are timed lower than state standards, I'll just say: go figure.

This.

Aren't the "timer" lights the ones shown to be most effective? The ones that count down from 10 to show how many seconds the color is going to be up?

I don't have a link, but an anecdote. Many of the signals in downtown DC have those for pedestrians, but they work for drivers as well. It's definitely helpful if you can see that the clock is down to 3 before you get up there and you know it's going yellow so you can come to a nice calm stop instead of the panic reflex when you're a short distance from the intersection and have to make the "will it be running the red light" gut decision. So for my own benefit, I'd love to see those at all major intersections.


They're also extremely helpful in poor weather conditions. When roads are icy, yellow lights aren't always long enough to allow you to come to a full stop safely, even when driving at reasonable speeds.
2013-01-03 11:16:02 AM
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machoprogrammer: Carn: Instead of my normal screed about red light cameras or linking to the article that says that surveys show that many yellows in problem intersections are timed lower than state standards, I'll just say: go figure.

This.

Aren't the "timer" lights the ones shown to be most effective? The ones that count down from 10 to show how many seconds the color is going to be up?


I don't have a link, but an anecdote. Many of the signals in downtown DC have those for pedestrians, but they work for drivers as well. It's definitely helpful if you can see that the clock is down to 3 before you get up there and you know it's going yellow so you can come to a nice calm stop instead of the panic reflex when you're a short distance from the intersection and have to make the "will it be running the red light" gut decision. So for my own benefit, I'd love to see those at all major intersections.
2013-01-03 10:32:07 AM
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Rev.K: make me some tea: Well, I'm glad at least that courts are ruling these things illegal. This needs to stop.

I've read some of the articles on red light cameras and I have to say that it is a truly insidious relationship that private companies have with municipalities on these red light cameras. Cutting the private company in on the fine revenue is a blatant conflict of interest.

Where I live, we have red light cameras, but they are entirely owned by the local police department, there is no private firm that provides and installs the technology and gets a portion of the fine revenue. True, one could argue that the police department would do exactly the same thing to increase tickets and therefore revenue, but it doesn't appear to be happening on the same scale as some US cities.


A few years ago, I got "popped" by a cam on the I-10 freeway headed toward the airport in PHX going 11mph over the speed limit in a rental car. I didn't even know about it until I got something in the mail a couple weeks later, and actually I hadn't remembered speeding, but I do get leadfooted at times so perhaps I was? Who knows. I never paid it, and I haven't heard anything since. What ticket? I only regard it as valid if an officer issues me one in person. It may end up biting me in the ass someday, but eh, I'm not planning to be in AZ too often going forward, so fark them.

Anyway, interesting discussion here:  http://www.npr.org/2012/02/22/147261655/fed-up-drivers-fight-back-aga i nst-traffic-cameras
 
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