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(Washington Post)   Obama signs fiscal bill with autopen. This is clearly the first time a president has ever used such a magical device. This clearly shows that Obama is not the real president. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 121
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2013-01-03 07:44:30 AM
The fark's an autopen?
 
2013-01-03 07:45:37 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The fark's an autopen?


It's a device that essentially mechanically reproduces a person's signature onto a piece of paper. That way, the Obamas can send out thousands of letter responses to school kids or annual Christmas cards.
 
2013-01-03 07:52:25 AM
Is this really all our illustrious Congressmen can find to worry about?

And if autopens are such a problem, lets outlaw them. While we are at it, let's also outlaw stamped or copied signatures on franked documents. If a Congressmen wants to mail be a brochure telling me what a great job he is doing, let him sign every one. Personally.
 
2013-01-03 07:59:58 AM

RexTalionis: AverageAmericanGuy: The fark's an autopen?

It's a device that essentially mechanically reproduces a person's signature onto a piece of paper. That way, the Obamas can send out thousands of letter responses to school kids or annual Christmas cards.


No no, Charlie. I'm gonna write out these christmas cards all by hand. No machine is gonna do this for me. Now how many more do we have?

Ten thousand, sir.

Ten thousand? There's no way Abby and I know all these people.

Well sir, you send a christmas card to everyone who sends a letter to the White House and we get quite a few every day.

Really?

Really, sir.

....Okay, we'll use the autopen on those and I'll write out some cards to friends and family.

Yes, sir
 
2013-01-03 08:07:23 AM
That's kind of cool. It has to be insanely expensive to fly papers around chasing after the President just for his signature. I'm still waiting for reliable electronic signatures. It's stupid to have to wait for contracts and things to go back and forth by mail.
 
2013-01-03 08:10:05 AM

ginandbacon: That's kind of cool. It has to be insanely expensive to fly papers around chasing after the President just for his signature. I'm still waiting for reliable electronic signatures. It's stupid to have to wait for contracts and things to go back and forth by mail.


Check the laws of your state. Many states already have laws regulating the form and content of electronic signatures. In New York State, it can be pretty much anything marked on an electronic document that you intended to mark with the intent of it being your signature (I'm paraphrasing from memory) - so you can type an X onto the document if you like.
 
2013-01-03 08:13:56 AM
In more important news, when the hell did they start making Dr. Who action figures, and why was I not informed? Just saw this in the Fark Shop while reading this thread, now I have to sell some blood and buy it!

That is infinitely more interesting than whether Obama uses an autopen or not.
 
2013-01-03 08:14:41 AM

ginandbacon: That's kind of cool. It has to be insanely expensive to fly papers around chasing after the President just for his signature. I'm still waiting for reliable electronic signatures. It's stupid to have to wait for contracts and things to go back and forth by mail.


You can sign things electronically; it just requires that all parties agree.

Your 'signature' can be any mark on a page, so long as you adopt it.

That, of course, is why the autopen complaints are such nonsense; hell, Obama could delegate the 'signing' to an intern and just say "I adopt his signature as my own" each time.
 
2013-01-03 08:16:05 AM
Cue the "Magic Barack and his Time Machine" picture if he used one that looked like this:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-03 08:19:31 AM
This violates everything I was taught about government!

illinois.edu

/oh yeah!
 
2013-01-03 08:20:56 AM
What a silly concept, that documents need a physical handwritten signature to be considered valid.  I want to see Obama sign the next one with his PGP key instead.

President Obama, who interrupted a family vacation here to oversee the cliff negotiations in Washington, returned to Hawaii on an overnight flight that arrived early Wednesday. He spent the day working out a local gym, golfing and dining with first lady Michelle Obama and some friends at a favorite Honolulu restaurant, Alan Wong's.

Remember all that shiat Bush got for "vacationing on his ranch" so much?
 
2013-01-03 08:24:10 AM

RexTalionis: AverageAmericanGuy: The fark's an autopen?

It's a device that essentially mechanically reproduces a person's signature onto a piece of paper. That way, the Obamas can send out thousands of letter responses to school kids or annual Christmas cards.


THAT MONSTER
 
2013-01-03 08:39:18 AM
I bet he used an autopen to write his speech, which he reads off a Teleprompter, and they use autotune to make him sound leaderly!
 
2013-01-03 08:45:59 AM

serial_crusher: Remember all that shiat Bush got for "vacationing on his ranch" so much?



Yes, I believe the response was "Presidents are never really on vacation anyway."

Does this count as "real" vacation because Hawaii is (allegedly) the country of Obama's birth?
 
2013-01-03 08:46:43 AM
An autopen? What is it?
 
2013-01-03 08:47:48 AM

SurfaceTension: An autopen? What is it?


autopen is mightier!
 
2013-01-03 08:54:11 AM

RexTalionis: ginandbacon: That's kind of cool. It has to be insanely expensive to fly papers around chasing after the President just for his signature. I'm still waiting for reliable electronic signatures. It's stupid to have to wait for contracts and things to go back and forth by mail.

Check the laws of your state. Many states already have laws regulating the form and content of electronic signatures. In New York State, it can be pretty much anything marked on an electronic document that you intended to mark with the intent of it being your signature (I'm paraphrasing from memory) - so you can type an X onto the document if you like.


mattharvest: ginandbacon: That's kind of cool. It has to be insanely expensive to fly papers around chasing after the President just for his signature. I'm still waiting for reliable electronic signatures. It's stupid to have to wait for contracts and things to go back and forth by mail.

You can sign things electronically; it just requires that all parties agree.

Your 'signature' can be any mark on a page, so long as you adopt it.

That, of course, is why the autopen complaints are such nonsense; hell, Obama could delegate the 'signing' to an intern and just say "I adopt his signature as my own" each time.


Yeah, I guess I'm waiting for the day when you can fill out forms online and *sign* them instead of printing them out and mailing them back in. There are a lot of documents that really are pro forma that shouldn't have to be handled physically that still need to be filed IRL. It seems like such a waste of resources. (Most of what I'm thinking of are government forms--permits, applications, etc. I think private contracts have moved quicker as the consent is easier to obtain in those cases.)

It's interesting how some agencies embrace technology and some just don't. In MA, you can file for unemployment by phone. In CA, you have to go to an office and do it in person. In Baltimore Co., you can apply for SNAP online (SAIL? I think it's called?) but in Baltimore, you need to go into a benefits office. And think about how easy it is to renew a DL online and how hard it is to get a learner's permit. Not to mention filing applications for a business. I know people in the hospitality industry who have been operating out of the same location for years and still have to present pieces of paper with their signatures just to renew a liquor license. It's just so varied and arbitrary.

I do love that this President is embracing technology when it comes to situations like these. It's efficient and very appropriate.
 
2013-01-03 08:54:27 AM

SurfaceTension: What is it?


caught in a mosh
 
2013-01-03 09:00:24 AM

b0rscht: Cue the "Magic Barack and his Time Machine" picture if he used one that looked like this:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 640x380]


While he was not the first President to use an Autopen, he was the first to use it to sign a bill.
 
2013-01-03 09:06:09 AM
I look forward to Rush's comments on "Barack, the Magic Nego and his magical autopen" remarks today.

Oh, who am I kidding...I don't listen to that show, I'd rather surf the web for free porn.

/Bangbus
 
2013-01-03 09:08:11 AM
Wasn't he physically in Washington anyway? I don't get the point of using the autopen for this. I get it for signing 5000 "Thank you for your letter. In response to your question, my favorite food is pizza" letters, but for important pieces of legislation it seems flippant. "Yes, yes, I read and considered the entire bill. Now, isn't there some machine that could sign out for me? I can't be bothered with that sort of thing."
 
2013-01-03 09:16:22 AM

FinFangFark: I look forward to Rush's comments on "Barack, the Magic Nego and his magical autopen" remarks today.

Oh, who am I kidding...I don't listen to that show, I'd rather surf the web for free porn.

/Bangbus


I'd rather fap to 2 Girls 1 Cup than listen to Rush Limbaugh
 
2013-01-03 09:18:27 AM

SurfaceTension: An autopen? What is it?


It's a device used to automated written signatures, but that's not important right now.
 
2013-01-03 09:33:26 AM
Can I see this Autopen's full form birth certificate?
 
2013-01-03 09:36:22 AM

somedude210: RexTalionis: AverageAmericanGuy: The fark's an autopen?

It's a device that essentially mechanically reproduces a person's signature onto a piece of paper. That way, the Obamas can send out thousands of letter responses to school kids or annual Christmas cards.

No no, Charlie. I'm gonna write out these christmas cards all by hand. No machine is gonna do this for me. Now how many more do we have?

Ten thousand, sir.

Ten thousand? There's no way Abby and I know all these people.

Well sir, you send a christmas card to everyone who sends a letter to the White House and we get quite a few every day.

Really?

Really, sir.

....Okay, we'll use the autopen on those and I'll write out some cards to friends and family.

Yes, sir


Who the hell is this and why do I care if they have a merry Christmas?
 
2013-01-03 09:41:43 AM

GAT_00: Who the hell is this and why do I care if they have a merry Christmas?


That's your brother....
 
2013-01-03 09:47:49 AM
Imagine the outrage if he had just clicked the "I agree to be bound by the Terms of Service" button.
 
2013-01-03 09:56:18 AM

FirstNationalBastard: I bet he used an autopen to write his speech, which he reads off a Teleprompter, and they use autotune to make him sound leaderly!


I was with you until you mentioned autotune.  Autotune gave us Bieber.  There is nothing funny about autotune.  Sure, some point to the recession, a black president, the end of NASA seeking manned spaceflight, the Mayans...but I know the real sign of our society's downfall...the autotune.
 
2013-01-03 10:11:10 AM
Years ago there was a 60 Minutes piece on government surplus sales, and they had a guy who bought an autopen machine with Ronald Reagan's template. They've been around for a while.
 
2013-01-03 10:20:19 AM
I'm ok with a real signature but only because it slows down the idiocy that is new laws.
 
2013-01-03 10:21:14 AM
Dear President Obama,

Please feel free to stay on vacation as long as you like.  In fact, take the next 4 years off.  I don't think the country can stand anymore of your magnificent leadership.

Sincerely,
BillCo
 
2013-01-03 10:22:04 AM

CreamFilling: Wasn't he physically in Washington anyway? I don't get the point of using the autopen for this. I get it for signing 5000 "Thank you for your letter. In response to your question, my favorite food is pizza" letters, but for important pieces of legislation it seems flippant. "Yes, yes, I read and considered the entire bill. Now, isn't there some machine that could sign out for me? I can't be bothered with that sort of thing."


What exactly is it you're complaining about?
 
2013-01-03 10:27:52 AM
How many times does he sign a particular bill?  Isn't it just as easy, if he's at his desk, to sign with his own hand?  This is the kind of laziness that leads to using a remote control instead of your little brother to change the channel.
 
2013-01-03 10:29:08 AM

Coco LaFemme: CreamFilling: Wasn't he physically in Washington anyway? I don't get the point of using the autopen for this. I get it for signing 5000 "Thank you for your letter. In response to your question, my favorite food is pizza" letters, but for important pieces of legislation it seems flippant. "Yes, yes, I read and considered the entire bill. Now, isn't there some machine that could sign out for me? I can't be bothered with that sort of thing."

What exactly is it you're complaining about?


I don't think I was complaining about anything. There are more issues with the bill than the manner in which it was signed. I was just noting that this criticism could have been predicted and easily avoided. But maybe that's just Obama playing chess again.
 
2013-01-03 10:32:18 AM

BillCo: Dear President Obama,

Please feel free to stay on vacation as long as you like.  In fact, take the next 4 years off.  I don't think the country can stand anymore of your magnificent leadership.

Sincerely,
BillCo


Dear BillCo,

Remember, Unions forever equal the KKK for you. Please stop trolling around these parts.

Sincerely,
somedude210
 
2013-01-03 10:40:18 AM
Obama uses the autopen when signing condolence letters to dead soldiers widows.
 
2013-01-03 11:10:25 AM

vernonFL: Obama uses the autopen when signing condolence letters to dead soldiers widows.


Excellent! Straight and to the point. This is how to reverse troll

8/10
 
2013-01-03 11:27:34 AM
If you ban automatic pens, only outlaws will bulk respond.
 
2013-01-03 11:30:40 AM
I bet his "birth certificate" was also signed with an "autopen."
 
2013-01-03 11:32:38 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: I bet his "birth certificate" was also signed with an "autopen."


Adobe Acrobat doesn't support autopen devices.
 
2013-01-03 11:33:25 AM
*adds Autopen-User to the Big Spiffy List of All the Bad Things Fartbama Is*
 
2013-01-03 11:34:50 AM
Is this "greenlight every whiny, dumbass right wing article you can find" day? I didn't get the memo.
 
2013-01-03 11:36:31 AM

FirstNationalBastard: SurfaceTension: An autopen? What is it?

autopen is mightier!


Damn it!

/shakes fist
 
2013-01-03 11:36:39 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: I bet his "birth certificate" was also signed with an "autopen."



They just want a real signature for comparison to his high school transcripts. What is he hiding?!?! Closet rightie?
 
2013-01-03 11:36:39 AM

MmmmBacon: In more important news, when the hell did they start making Dr. Who action figures, and why was I not informed? Just saw this in the Fark Shop while reading this thread, now I have to sell some blood and buy it!

That is infinitely more interesting than whether Obama uses an autopen or not.


Screw that; there's a company that makes high end sonic screwdriver universal remote controls.
 
2013-01-03 11:36:50 AM

jso2897: Is this "greenlight every whiny, dumbass right wing article you can find" day? I didn't get the memo.


New to the Politics tab, are we?
 
2013-01-03 11:37:00 AM
So whats the problem here.

Oh, subby was trolling in headline, now I see.

\Poor attempt.
 
2013-01-03 11:38:11 AM

ginandbacon: That's kind of cool. It has to be insanely expensive to fly papers around chasing after the President just for his signature. I'm still waiting for reliable electronic signatures. It's stupid to have to wait for contracts and things to go back and forth by mail.


41.94 is what Fed Ex charges from Washington DC to Pearl Harbor/Hickam AFB. Not too bad.
 
2013-01-03 11:38:34 AM

Buffalo77: So whats the problem here.

Oh, subby was trolling in headline, now I see.

\Poor attempt.


sweetheart please, that wasn't a troll, that was sarcasm. ^_^
 
2013-01-03 11:38:55 AM

serial_crusher: What a silly concept, that documents need a physical handwritten signature to be considered valid.  I want to see Obama sign the next one with his PGP key instead.

President Obama, who interrupted a family vacation here to oversee the cliff negotiations in Washington, returned to Hawaii on an overnight flight that arrived early Wednesday. He spent the day working out a local gym, golfing and dining with first lady Michelle Obama and some friends at a favorite Honolulu restaurant, Alan Wong's.

Remember all that shiat Bush got for "vacationing on his ranch" so much?


Nope. I've never been one to opine that the person with his finger on the Big Red Button should never take a vacation.
 
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